FFXIII Not PS3 Exclusive?

SirUltimos · March 2007

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/03/sony_final_fant.html

In an interview with French news site DNA, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe vice president says that Final Fantasy XIII's exclusivity to PlayStation 3 is under discussion:

Enfin, pour Final Fantasy XIII, je peux vous dire que l'exclusivité est en discussion.

Finally, for Final Fantasy XIII, I can tell you that exclusivity is being discussed.

I'm sure Fornay thought this was a positive statement to be making (the site was grilling him about PS3's lessening supply of exclusive games), but this is the first I've heard that suggests that FFXIII is anything but exclusive -- and from no less a personage than a high-ranking Sony exec.

Sorry if this is old news, but I've yet to see a thread on it.

I think this is not good news for Sony, but I'm thinking it might be a translation error or a misunderstanding.

What do you guys think?

SyphonBlue · March 2007

Quick! Someone start a petition to boycott anything made by Square!

DeVryGuy · March 2007

Perhaps not specifically, but there is this thread: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=17234

Threepio · March 2007

Never trust the french.

Carnivore · March 2007

That french guy is getting whipped by a team of sony PR guys as we speak.

slash000 · March 2007

Misunderstanding.

Raslin · March 2007

Assuming he actually said the given french words, I can assure you thats not a mistranslation.

BladeofTheImmortal · March 2007

He didn't say mistranslation he said MISUNDERSTANDING!

And I'm getting sick and tired of people thinking everything is going to jump ship. Yet when 360 "exclusives" jump, it doesn't matter, its almost hilarious.

Raslin · March 2007

SirUltimos wrote: »

but I'm thinking it might be a translation error...

What do you guys think?

Jeez. Gimme a break.

Anyways, I think this might be fake. I've followed the sources as far as I can, and I can't find the actual french interview anywhere. All the french links are to a french online news site, but not to the interview, and I find no evidence of the interview on the site.

El Viento · March 2007

Why does everybody think the FF series is anything but a cheap hooker? Square will whore it out wherever they can onto the most widely selling platforms of the time.

VII and VIII got PC ports, XII is getting a DS spin off. If they think the 360 userbase and market will bear it they'll find some way to get something (else) with 'Final Fantasy' in the title on to 360. There are so many recent and upcoming games with 'Final Fantasy' in the title that it's almost utterly meaningless now.

Pata · March 2007

El Viento wrote: »

Why does everybody think the video game market is anything but a cheap hookers?

Fixed that for ya.

Loyalty does not exist in this market.

DesertBox · March 2007

El Viento wrote: »

Why does everybody think the FF series is anything but a cheap hooker? Square will whore it out wherever they can onto the most widely selling platforms of the time.

VII and VIII got PC ports, XII is getting a DS spin off. If they think the 360 userbase and market will bear it they'll find some way to get something (else) with 'Final Fantasy' in the title on to 360. There are so many recent and upcoming games with 'Final Fantasy' in the title that it's almost utterly meaningless now.

The cheap hooker I'm with right now found that offensive. I had to give her an extra $5 not to leave. THANKS A LOT

El Viento · March 2007

Pata wrote: »

El Viento wrote: »

Why does everybody think the video game market is anything but a cheap hookers?

Fixed that for ya.

Loyalty does not exist in this market.

You're spot on. I've been thinking that since I hit post.

Couscous · March 2007

El Viento wrote: »

Why does everybody think the FF series is anything but a cheap hooker? Square will whore it out wherever they can onto the most widely selling platforms of the time.

VII and VIII got PC ports, XII is getting a DS spin off. If they think the 360 userbase and market will bear it they'll find some way to get something (else) with 'Final Fantasy' in the title on to 360. There are so many recent and upcoming games with 'Final Fantasy' in the title that it's almost utterly meaningless now.

The title has almost always been meaningless. See Mystic Quest and Legends.

Raslin · March 2007

titmouse wrote: »

El Viento wrote: »

Why does everybody think the FF series is anything but a cheap hooker? Square will whore it out wherever they can onto the most widely selling platforms of the time.

VII and VIII got PC ports, XII is getting a DS spin off. If they think the 360 userbase and market will bear it they'll find some way to get something (else) with 'Final Fantasy' in the title on to 360. There are so many recent and upcoming games with 'Final Fantasy' in the title that it's almost utterly meaningless now.

The title has almost always been meaningless. See Mystic Quest and Legends.

Hey, I liked Mystic quest

Sorenson · March 2007

What's to say that this isn't just some kind of obligatory shopping-around phase? Might just be a farce to please bureaucracy and whatnot.

Raslin wrote: »

titmouse wrote: »

The title has almost always been meaningless. See Mystic Quest and Legends.

Hey, I liked Legends

APZonerunner · March 2007

Meh, I know for a fact that the head of SE EUROPE is pushing for a 360 release. But who over in Japan gives a fuck about him?

Sonos · March 2007

APZonerunner wrote: »

Meh, I know for a fact that the head of SE EUROPE is pushing for a 360 release. But who over in Japan gives a fuck about him?

jesus.

MHYoshimitzu · March 2007

If FFXIII turns out to be multiplatform, it spells little hope for MGS4 being exclusive, as well.

And I'm not just saying this because I bet my coworker $20 that Metal Gear Solid 4 would be announced for the Xbox 360 up to and within a six month launch window of it coming out for the PS3. No, siree.

cloudeagle · March 2007

This news doesn't mean XIII jumping ship is inevitable, but it DOES mean that Sony's realizing it needs to get its butt in gear to try to keep it an exclusive.

Whether or not those efforts will pay off, now that's the interesting bit.

Unco-ordinated · March 2007

APZonerunner wrote: »

Meh, I know for a fact that the head of SE EUROPE is pushing for a 360 release. But who over in Japan gives a fuck about him?

No-one, considering how incompetantly retarded Square Enix Europe are (and that they've got so little power over what Square Enix does, it's not funny).

BladeofTheImmortal: It's because the PS3 is the only console that has third party exclusives that you'd consider system sellers. The 360's system sellers are Gears and Halo, both of which are first party (though Epic could very well bring Gears 2 to the PS3 as well), while the Wii's system sellers are Mario and Super Smash Bros. The PS3 though, it has MGS4, FFvXIII and FFXIII.

Drool · March 2007

Exclusivity is bad for gamers in general. I don't see why people are so ready to wish a game would stay exclusive to a system. Its like some sort of pride thing. "My system is better becuase I can play this game and you can't."

Why is saving money by not having to buy 2 systems because you can get more of the titles you want on one a bad thing? I guess I'm the only one who remembers how badass the SNES was becasue just about everything good was on that machine.

As a longtime PC gamer none of the current gen systems set my loins aflame. What does 360 have? Gears, Halo3? No thanks. I've been playing FPS games forever, there are similar or better experinces on the PC. Oblivion is also much better on the PC, provided you can get one that will run it.

As far as the PS3 goes I could give a crap about Japanese RPG BishQuestXXVVVIII. I like a lot of Japanese games, but the bulk of the RPGs have become so repettive and insipid that I can barely stand them anymore. I still haven't finished FFXII.

I'm waiting to see what the online component of the PS3 will actually entail before I decide on either, also the price is retarded. The Wii however is something new and interesting, I just can't find one anywhere

Dinosaur_Neil · March 2007

if alot of these 3rd party games do end up going multiplatform(which it seems it is) first of all i don't think it's that big of a deal, and really not that unexpected considering that 360 has been pumping out units a year in advance, it's not really feasable to make some of these exclusives, considering how much it costs to make a game these days, and the install base of the ps3 at the moment, in years time i think you could definitely see more exclusives, however i don't see many japanese games becoming xbox exclusive. it's really weird though, it's like if a game is going multiplatform, people talk as if the ps3 isn't getting the game anymore, it's still coming out. I think in the end there won't be many 3rd party exclusives for either and it'll come down to, would you rather play halo,gears of war(assuming that stays exclusive, since they are making ps3 games), bioshock, masseffect or resitance,white knight story, ratchet and clank, uncharted, little big planet, warhawk(that's 2nd isn't it?), motorstorm, heavenly sword, god of war etc.. i mean first/second party wise it's not even close, factor in other annoying things with the 360 like, wifi, and depending on if you own hd sets, hd movies, which sony has the lead in at the moment. i dunno really how things will pan out, i think a years time is needed for the smoke to clear.

Sheep · March 2007

I'm more interested in seeing the fanboyish outcry than I am seeing FFXIII on the 360.

Carnivore · March 2007

Unco-ordinated wrote: »

APZonerunner wrote: »

Meh, I know for a fact that the head of SE EUROPE is pushing for a 360 release. But who over in Japan gives a fuck about him?

No-one, considering how incompetantly retarded Square Enix Europe are (and that they've got so little power over what Square Enix does, it's not funny).

BladeofTheImmortal: It's because the PS3 is the only console that has third party exclusives that you'd consider system sellers. The 360's system sellers are Gears and Halo, both of which are first party (though Epic could very well bring Gears 2 to the PS3 as well), while the Wii's system sellers are Mario and Super Smash Bros. The PS3 though, it has MGS4, FFvXIII and FFXIII.

Im pretty sure Gears 2 could not go multiplatform.

Im sure Microsoft has more of a stake in it than just publisher. Either they funded development or have an absolute watertight deal on that thing. Im sure kotaku did an article on it when cliffyb announced the sequel.

Fiaryn · March 2007

Only one thing can sum up my feelings on this thread:

El Viento · March 2007

Ah.. two FF themed threads is confusing me. Anyway, there's still the mysterious 4th FF XIII related game to be revealed, Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII. The title was trademarked by SE as of the middle of last year.

Knowing SE it could, at this stage, be anything from an Xbox 360 action RPG to a Tetris clone for the N-Gage.

HappylilElf · March 2007

Raslin wrote: »

titmouse wrote: »

El Viento wrote: »

Why does everybody think the FF series is anything but a cheap hooker? Square will whore it out wherever they can onto the most widely selling platforms of the time.

VII and VIII got PC ports, XII is getting a DS spin off. If they think the 360 userbase and market will bear it they'll find some way to get something (else) with 'Final Fantasy' in the title on to 360. There are so many recent and upcoming games with 'Final Fantasy' in the title that it's almost utterly meaningless now.

The title has almost always been meaningless. See Mystic Quest and Legends.

Hey, I liked Mystic quest

I loved the Legends series on Gameboy. In one of them (the third one?) your airship was an F-117. I couldn't stop laughing once I saw that.

BubbaT · March 2007

Carnivore wrote: »

Unco-ordinated wrote: »

APZonerunner wrote: »

Meh, I know for a fact that the head of SE EUROPE is pushing for a 360 release. But who over in Japan gives a fuck about him?

No-one, considering how incompetantly retarded Square Enix Europe are (and that they've got so little power over what Square Enix does, it's not funny).

BladeofTheImmortal: It's because the PS3 is the only console that has third party exclusives that you'd consider system sellers. The 360's system sellers are Gears and Halo, both of which are first party (though Epic could very well bring Gears 2 to the PS3 as well), while the Wii's system sellers are Mario and Super Smash Bros. The PS3 though, it has MGS4, FFvXIII and FFXIII.

Im pretty sure Gears 2 could not go multiplatform.

Im sure Microsoft has more of a stake in it than just publisher. Either they funded development or have an absolute watertight deal on that thing. Im sure kotaku did an article on it when cliffyb announced the sequel.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if Epic gave MS control over the GoW IP.

â€œYou have to be prepared to give up your IP rights, even ancillary rights,â€ he [Mark Rein, Epic VP] said, although not directly commenting on the ownership of Gears of Wars. â€œItâ€™s not worth taking a bad deal and keeping the IP. Execution is a more important skill than coming up with ideas. When your track record is solid enough, youâ€™ll get the chance to pick up the ancillary rights.â€

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=10046

Terrorbyte · March 2007

Snip, snip.

lowlylowlycook · March 2007

Unco-ordinated wrote: »

APZonerunner wrote: »

Meh, I know for a fact that the head of SE EUROPE is pushing for a 360 release. But who over in Japan gives a fuck about him?

No-one, considering how incompetantly retarded Square Enix Europe are (and that they've got so little power over what Square Enix does, it's not funny).

BladeofTheImmortal: It's because the PS3 is the only console that has third party exclusives that you'd consider system sellers. The 360's system sellers are Gears and Halo, both of which are first party (though Epic could very well bring Gears 2 to the PS3 as well), while the Wii's system sellers are Mario and Super Smash Bros. The PS3 though, it has MGS4, FFvXIII and FFXIII.

That might be part of it but I think the thinking is mostly that, barring a big difference in capability, exclusive games are what could convince people to pony up for the more expensive system.

Unco-ordinated · March 2007

BubbaT wrote: »

Carnivore wrote: »

Unco-ordinated wrote: »

APZonerunner wrote: »

Meh, I know for a fact that the head of SE EUROPE is pushing for a 360 release. But who over in Japan gives a fuck about him?

No-one, considering how incompetantly retarded Square Enix Europe are (and that they've got so little power over what Square Enix does, it's not funny).

BladeofTheImmortal: It's because the PS3 is the only console that has third party exclusives that you'd consider system sellers. The 360's system sellers are Gears and Halo, both of which are first party (though Epic could very well bring Gears 2 to the PS3 as well), while the Wii's system sellers are Mario and Super Smash Bros. The PS3 though, it has MGS4, FFvXIII and FFXIII.

Im pretty sure Gears 2 could not go multiplatform.

Im sure Microsoft has more of a stake in it than just publisher. Either they funded development or have an absolute watertight deal on that thing. Im sure kotaku did an article on it when cliffyb announced the sequel.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if Epic gave MS control over the GoW IP.

â€œYou have to be prepared to give up your IP rights, even ancillary rights,â€ he [Mark Rein, Epic VP] said, although not directly commenting on the ownership of Gears of Wars. â€œItâ€™s not worth taking a bad deal and keeping the IP. Execution is a more important skill than coming up with ideas. When your track record is solid enough, youâ€™ll get the chance to pick up the ancillary rights.â€

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=10046

Epic made it abundantly clear to 1UP that they own the Gears of War IP, so they can do whatever the hell they want with it. Whether they take it to another publisher and then release it on 360/PS3/PC or they go back to Microsoft and release it on the 360 with a PC release later on, is completely up to Epic.

SirUltimos · March 2007

El Viento wrote: »

Ah.. two FF themed threads is confusing me. Anyway, there's still the mysterious 4th FF XIII related game to be revealed, Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII. The title was trademarked by SE as of the middle of last year.

Knowing SE it could, at this stage, be anything from an Xbox 360 action RPG to a Tetris clone for the N-Gage.

Oh god please let this be it.

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