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Old 08-13-2007, 03:16 PM
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:20 PM
So.

We're going to have the best Pokemon battles ever now.

3 stock, no switching pokemon except at death, only one life per pokemon.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:21 PM
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Flip that picture of Sonic araound and it looks very similer.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:21 PM
what kind of pokemon battle is it if you can't switch

a stupid one, that's what kind
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:21 PM
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So.

We're going to have the best Pokemon battles ever now.

3 stock, no switching pokemon except at death, only one life per pokemon.
What about fatigue from using up stamina? You can't keep your pokes out too long or too short.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:21 PM
That sounds pretty bitchin
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:22 PM
It'd be way awesome if Kirby got his own Pokemon when sucking up one of Red's, instead of just getting the Pokemon's B moves.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:25 PM
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what kind of pokemon battle is it if you can't switch

a stupid one, that's what kind
That way people can't fight with Charizard the whole time, then switch to Ivysaur so that it gets the KO instead.

As for fatigue, the other person has to deal with it too (I'm talking trainer vs. trainer).
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:31 PM
Also, there should be an Ash costume where Squirtle wears sunglasses and is fuckawesome, Ivysaur is replaced with Bulbasaur and is fuckawesome, and Charizard doesn't pay any attention to your controls and will often avoid being called back.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:32 PM
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what kind of pokemon battle is it if you can't switch

a stupid one, that's what kind
That way people can't fight with Charizard the whole time, then switch to Ivysaur so that it gets the KO instead.

As for fatigue, the other person has to deal with it too (I'm talking trainer vs. trainer).
but mirror matches could get pretty boring
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:36 PM
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what kind of pokemon battle is it if you can't switch

a stupid one, that's what kind
That way people can't fight with Charizard the whole time, then switch to Ivysaur so that it gets the KO instead.

As for fatigue, the other person has to deal with it too (I'm talking trainer vs. trainer).
but mirror matches could get pretty boring
I'm thinking that at the start of the life you can decide which pokemon you're using, it's just that's the only time you get to switch. But yeah, sadly it would end up a little bit limited.

Unless there are OTHER pokemon trainers...
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:39 PM
Anything that doesn't involve incessant switching to advantageous Pokemon cannot rightly be called a Pokemon match.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:42 PM
I wonder what kind of EV spread these guys have.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:44 PM
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Anything that doesn't involve incessant switching to advantageous Pokemon cannot rightly be called a Pokemon match.
I know, it's sad, but it'll just have to be anime style matches where they seem to forget that there's no rule against sending a pokemon back out after they've been out.

If only they each had their own damage counters, but sadly they don't.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:45 PM
Charizard is going to be ace, a heavy character with good recovery?

As for moves, I predict:

B - Flamethrower, longer range than Bowser's flame breath but not as powerful.
Up B - Wing Attack, in the air it's also a third jump and possibly repeatable like Jigglypuff's.
Side B - Slash? Metal Claw? Possibly a Dragon Rage or something. Either way, probably a close range melee strike(s)

Ivysaur
B - Razor Leaf, like Falco's blaster
Up B - Magical Leaf? Something that would blast him into the air as part of the attack
Side B - Vine Whip, controllable vines similar to Shiek's whip

Also, vines would be his grab similar to Link's hookshot

Squirtle
B - Water Gun, weaker than flamethrower but controllable (raise/lower the angle of the stream while in use)
Up B - Skull Bash, similar to Luigi's side B. Can be charged and angled.
Side B - Aqua Tail? Maybe Bite, he could lunge at them and latch onto them. Maybe that would be a grapple move though.


Guessing moves is more fun than guessing updates.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:47 PM
I think if Nintendo opts not to include some sort of Mii support to Brawl it could really miss a trick there. The way I see it, Mii inclusion could just raise interest by a further degree.

Imagine it this way - you have the option to import your Mii for use as a character. They all take the same basic moves, but for all four of your B-attacks you have a choice of say twenty stock moves, from which you scupt the fighting capabilities of your Mii.

Could be interesting and novel just to see a slightly personalised 'self' character in play.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:48 PM
I always heard people asking for Red to be playable in the games, and just use Pokeballs, but I never thought it would actually happen. Ever.

I want him to have the other three generations of trainers and their starter Pokemon (I would assume at the same levels as these) as costumes, because otherwise it seems... unfair somehow. The only problem I see (you could fudge it to make the other fire types glide) is that Infernape is significantly smaller than Charizard and the others.

I have a feeling his Final Smash will in fact be Mewtwo.

In fact, my guess for tonight is PT's Final Smash.
 

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Old 08-13-2007, 03:48 PM
Miis being the new wireframes would be awesome.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:49 PM
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Miis being the new wireframes would be awesome.


As a sidegame/minigame, maybe, but Nintendo has always shied away from things that involve beating up / shooting images of real people. Not that mii's are, but they blocked similar things with Perfect Dark.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:51 PM
I kinda wish that they'd picked a consistent evolution level for the Trainer's Pokemon. Charmander, Bulbasaur, and Squirtle are more iconic as a trio than the three they've chosen. It just seems like a setup for a Zelda/Shiek situation, where one option is far and away the best.

On the other hand, having Charizard playable makes it difficult to claim that Ridley wouldn't work as a playable character. Their frames, while by no means identical, are at least similar.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:51 PM
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I think if Nintendo opts not to include some sort of Mii support to Brawl it could really miss a trick there. The way I see it, Mii inclusion could just raise interest by a further degree.

Imagine it this way - you have the option to import your Mii for use as a character. They all take the same basic moves, but for all four of your B-attacks you have a choice of say twenty stock moves, from which you scupt the fighting capabilities of your Mii.

Could be interesting and novel just to see a slightly personalised 'self' character in play.
I don't really like my Mii.

I am quite fond of Rasputiin, though.
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I always heard people asking for Red to be playable in the games, and just use Pokeballs, but I never thought it would actually happen. Ever.

I want him to have the other three generations of trainers and their starter Pokemon (I would assume at the same levels as these) as costumes, because otherwise it seems... unfair somehow. The only problem I see (you good fudge it to make the other fire types glide) is that Infernape is significantly smaller than Charizard and the others.

I have a feeling his Final Smash will in fact be Mewtwo.

In fact, my guess for tonight is PT's Final Smash.
It would probably work much better if they used Venusaur or Blastoise instead of Charizard. Then having the other starters wouldn't be a problem. But it would be a little bit ridiculous to have the other fire evolutions behave the same as Charizard. Unless this Charizard just doesn't happen to use its wings.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:52 PM
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Miis being the new wireframes would be awesome.


As a sidegame/minigame, maybe, but Nintendo has always shied away from things that involve beating up / shooting images of real people. Not that mii's are, but they blocked similar things with Perfect Dark.
It's not like there's a beat-up-the-Mii game on Wii Sports or anything.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:53 PM
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I always heard people asking for Red to be playable in the games, and just use Pokeballs, but I never thought it would actually happen. Ever.

I want him to have the other three generations of trainers and their starter Pokemon (I would assume at the same levels as these) as costumes, because otherwise it seems... unfair somehow. The only problem I see (you good fudge it to make the other fire types glide) is that Infernape is significantly smaller than Charizard and the others.

I have a feeling his Final Smash will in fact be Mewtwo.

In fact, my guess for tonight is PT's Final Smash.
It's not unfair at all. The original starters are the real deal, the rest of them are just like the developers said "oh man we already used all the good pokemon designs, now what?" There should definitely be alternate trainer costumes though, at least to play as the blue/red rival.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:54 PM
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Miis being the new wireframes would be awesome.


As a sidegame/minigame, maybe, but Nintendo has always shied away from things that involve beating up / shooting images of real people. Not that mii's are, but they blocked similar things with Perfect Dark.
It's not like there's a beat-up-the-Mii game on Wii Sports or anything.

Boxing with padded gloves

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