Rehab,here's the first post from the other thread: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Okay, so I completely forgot to include a shout out there. So thanks to Kor, XoB, and others for their contributions. And speaking of contributions . . . __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Forumer Contributions: This section of the opening post will be dedicated to any forumer contributions made to this thread by way of creating something that will be helpful for organizing online play, the setup thereof, or sharing pertinent information such as user names and friend codes. In addition to this, there is now a portion explaining more advanced Smash terminology as well. The Penny Arcade Super Smash Brothers Brawl Online Tournament List! This is all organized courtesy of Nickle. There are still plenty of spots available here if you want to sign up. About that: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler When is the tournament going to start? Like on Dec. 3rd February 10th or a while after it comes out? I think it was a week or two after the game comes out. To let everyone get techniques down. I think we're a little better off now, actually, than when it was coming out near the holidays. I think probably about a week or two after. Maybe two saturdays after release? I dunno. There be secret things in progress behind the scenes, right now, so we'll see where we end up by then. And here is the tournament list itself: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler SUPER SECRET ELITE FIRST PA BRAWL TOURNAMENT EVER SIGN UP LIST: (PM me if you're in. Let's see if we can get this up to 128. Include your state (or Large Canadian State), please.) 1. Nickle IL 2. Guek WA 3. BlueBlue MS 4. Speakeasy CA 5. TempleWolf MN 6. quovadis13 ON, CA 7. cloudeagle OK 8. Joshua368 SC 9. Djiem Canada somewhere, I think 11. Redfenix 12. Mntorankusu KY 13. Ronen NY 14. Phanman 15. Pata 16. shyguy NY 17. Sharp10r NC 18. LordNibbler NY 19. ruiisu FL 20. Behemoth WA 21. Bulbasaur ON, CA 22. MetaHybrid ON, CA 23. willmannyeatthat MA 24. ArcSyn NJ 25. Munkus Beaver 26. Shabutie CA 27. Brue CA 28. Arcibi KY 29. Squashua FL 30. urahonky OH 31. Aydr WA 32. Faustum TX 33. Fishguy NM 34. Khavall PA 35. Improvolone FL 36. Goatmon CA 37. Niceguyeddie616 MA 38. Reigner PA 39. Gino WI 40. Zealous One CA 41. Woot427 IL 42. Monsty ND 43. Gunwarrior (Maybe) CA 44. Taramoor WA 45. Captain Crunch BC, CA 46. Gorilla Salad TX 47. Snork CT/PA 48. Jrosey WA 49. Tehcoolryan CA 50. Atheraal 51. Toothy KY 52. JLM-AWP 53. Zimarooski TX 54. Yalborap 55. Jarhog 56. Rehab NE 57. Rollout MTL, QC, CA 58. Gravija IL 59. Aioua WA 60. Hylianbunny ON, CA 61. SkyGheNe CT 62. BahamutZERO CA 63. Vann Diras IN 64. No Great Name East Coast 65. AshtonDragon NL, CA 66. Bibble TN 67. InivisibleInk OR 68. aaronsedge AR 69. Mushroom Pie 70. Greg343 KS 71. Corp.Shephard NC 72. Kupi NC 73. Kor NM 74. TehSpectre 75. JustinChar99 FL 76. Godfather TX 77. Zen Vulgarity FL 78. Manetheren AL 79. mts CA 80. RedMageDarion ME 81. Tachyon CO 82. Zampano NH 83. Zek NJ 84. Inquisitor CA 85. Manaleak34 WA 86. Cloudman MO 87. Mr_ekim CA 88. Ruins MD 89. ChopperDave Smash Brothers Community Terminology, Parts 1 and 2 Brought to you by Chopper Dave. Very thorough look at advanced Smash terms. About that: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Whew, that took way longer than I thought it would I wrote the first part of this guide myself, hopefully it does a decent enough job describing some of the most-confused terms. The other, lesser important terms I just lifted from a thread in Smashboards. It's...long, so I've split it up over two posts. The first part is all most of you will want to read, anyway, the second part (from Smashboards) has got a lot of specific, kind of unnecessary terms. I deleted some of the MOST superfluous ones (BYOC = bring your own controller, for example :roll, but for the most part it remains intact. By the way, if there's any terms I forgot to add or didn't describe effeciently, please let me know. Without further ado...: Part 1 Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler To access Part 1, CLICK HERE! Part 2 Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler To access Part 2, CLICK HERE! Customizable signatures that display user names and friend codes. And last but not least, here is something that mntorankusu and Geod have been working on. About that: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler It would be awesome if somebody wrote up a sig generator that puts your name/code on there, with a version for each character. That would be lovely. I wish I knew how to do that. I can totally provide all of the source images if someone wants to do it. Update (and to bring this topic back from page 2): Geod and I are working on the Brawl sig generator. Update on the WIP sig generator. Geod added the ability to change the background color. Now all you dudes who wanted them to be unique for each character will be able to just change the background color to match. And here is what they look like:

I'd be willing to bet money that it's not megaman. I'm guessing assist trophy. right after a pokemon? Brave. I HAVE TAPPED INTO THE INSANITY THAT IS SAKURAI! For now at least. Now we wait for the dark alien secrets of the beyond to drive you mad and devour your soul.

We must continue with the innuendos from the past few days. ... But isn’t he a little small? Alright, I'll make that the title once the current crisis is over. As far as Little Mac being a character though, I don't think he is quite recognizable enough for most people. Man I had no idea who Marth was, or Roy for that matter.

They really do need to make a Wii Punch-Out! though.

Since we already knew about Little Mac, let's try and guess what the "dud" assist trophy will be (like Mew/Goldeen for Pokeballs). I say the Duck Hunt dog.

This week is a let-down so far, compared to the awesomeness that was the past two weeks. Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Blue dot.

And thus the people wishing him to be playable had their dreams shattered. He was already confirmed though. This is just kicking us while we're down by announcing things on the site that we already know about. That's the problem with last week's conference and E for All. We've seen/we're going to see so much stuff that there's no way they can keep posting things we don't know about already. They should give us double updates when theres things from the press demo involved. Nate Bhildorff said in an interview that he translates these updates weeks before they're posted (Makes you wonder why they're so engrishy). They have no idea what all we're going to see ahead of time.

This week is a let-down so far, compared to the awesomeness that was the past couple weeks. Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Blue dot.

Whoops Messed up, here is the actual first post: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler E for All - New Gaming Event Sakurai has this to say: The forthcoming E for All event will be held at the Los Angeles Convention Center beginning October 18. And it appears that this event will display the first ever public playable version of Super Smash Bros. Brawl! I am planning on having people play the game—but with limited character selection. The problem is Sonic. What to do... I suppose if we’re going to all this trouble, perhaps we should make him playable. Oh, yes. And for those of you who come to play, please remember—you tap the Control Stick to do Smash attacks. Have fun! Certain SmashBoards players will be there to investigate too. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Sonic the fucking Hedgehog is in the game! You knew that already but its still damn exciting! About that: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler The one whose Smash appearance has been most desired dashes in from far away at supersonic speed. Sonic the Hedgehog crashes headlong into battle! <- Click for larger image Sonic the Hedgehog Joins the Brawl! Nintendo Conference Fall 2007 Movie There was an announcement at this conference that Sonic the Hedgehog has joined the fray. I’d like to provide you with the short movie that was shown there. There’s still a little more development to be done... I’m hoping to complete it without incident. FUN FACT The second video hints at so many things. Future pokemon, new character moves, a new stage, and maybe a new item. TheSonicRetard provides some great insight on the Sonic model: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler This is a very composite sonic the hedgehog. Parts of him have been drawn from Sonic 1, Sonic CD, Sonic Adventure, Sonic the Fighters, and even the recent sonic 360. Pretty awesome of them to make a truly timeless sonic model. So this Sonic is a composite of other Sonics, eh? Mind pointing out what is from where? Well... his straight up model looks like it was taken from Sonic and the Secret rings, which is an adaptation of the Sonic Heroes model. His running animation uses the super peelout motions from sonic cd. his skidding and jumping sound effects range somewhere between sonic 1 and sonic 2. his fighting stance is from sonic the fighters, as are his punching and kicking animations. his spring bouncing noise is from sonic adventure, as is his spindash noise. his breakdancing move is from sonic 360. his ledge animation are from sonic 1 and sonic CD. I'd say that's a pretty rounded list of characteristics that spans his entire career. Also, the game has been delayed until February 10, 2008. (Lots of swearing) On the plus side we have a ton of new gameplay videos: Mario VS Samus Sonic VS Link 4-Player (Meta, Mario, Peach, Diddy) Stage Select Menu Various IGN videos Super Smash Bros Brawl Hands-on Impressions: 1up.com IGN.com Observations of many new game elements from various posters and sources: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler New stuff we learned about today: Peach's final smash Assist trophies: Metroid, Little Mac, Advance Wars, Drill Dozer Norfair Beam Sword What am I missing? Items: NEW Smart Bomb Some spikey creature OLD Remote Mine Poison/Super Mushroom Heart Container Fire Flower Fan HomeRun Bat Party Ball Bob-omb Ray Gun Oh yeah, capsules too. The snake video also confirmed Mr. Saturn Lip stick, Warp Star, Star Rod and food as well. Stages: As in Melee, the different game-inspired backdrops in Brawl change throughout the match. The difference is that in Brawl the permutations seem to happen much more often; something is constantly happening in the background while you're fighting, adding to the frenzied feeling of the matches. And not only cosmetically -- the environments are certainly more interactive than ever before, with constantly changing platforms, screen movement, and even hazards. Take the lava-themed level from Metroid for example: The burning magma constantly rises and falls, with the screen persistently scrolling to new formations of platforms. On occasion, a large wave of molten lava even pushes across the screen vertically from the left, reducing the safe area to a tiny lone platform -- with four players fighting to stay on it, things can get pretty hectic as you can imagine. Even small details, like the current match leader showing up on the scoreboard in the background of the Pokemon Stadium, are there for those who look. Since each character can also switch colors pre-fight, Nintendo took the opportunity to seamlessly include Dark Link as one of the character options. He fights the same, but looks totally badass, which is a must. __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Latest Update: Meowth Meowth. It’s considered a major Pokémon, but it did not show up in Melee. It now makes its first appearance since the original Smash Bros. Meowth appears! It unleashes a slow coin barrage! They call this Pay Day, but it’s not like it’s getting any coins out of it. It doesn’t appear to be throwing the coin on its forehead. Huh? That definitely appears to be a coin on its forehead, but what do you suppose they call it in Japan? Maybe if you check the Japanese version of Smash Bros. Dojo you can find out... How to use the Wii Remote Believe it or not, but you can use four controller types with this game! But everyone seems to wonder the most about how the Wii Remote works when held sideways. Please allow me to explain. +Control Pad : Move Press left or right to walk and press up to jump. If you’re in a real hurry, press twice. Press left or right twice to run and press down for a short time to fall through some floors. Press sideways twice to dash! 2 Button : Basic Moves Just press the button for a standard attack. Press it while pressing a direction on the +Control Pad for a strong attack. You can perform smash attacks in one of the following ways: * 1： Press the 1 Button and the 2 Button at the same time. * 2： Press any direction on the +Control Pad and the 2 Button at the same time. Just pick whichever one is easiest for you!! Press the 2 Button at the same time you press up, sideways, or down! 1 Button : Special Moves The direction you press will determine what kind of special move you do. You have four special moves depending on the direction you pick: neutral, up, sideways, and down. B Button : Shield This is in a kind of hard-to-press area, but the button for your shield is near your left index finger. To dodge, hold down the B Button and press in a direction. To grab, hold down the B Button and press the 2 Button. To throw an item, hold down the B Button and press the 2 Button. Using the – Button is the same as pressing B Button and 2 Button. Grab away! A Button : Taunt That’s all! Right now, to grab a Smash Ball, you have to beat on it—not just touch it. Don’t forget! Be the first to pummel it! When you get a Smash Ball, try a standard special move. In other words, just press the button for your special move without a direction. You will then perform your Final Smash. This is the same for all control schemes, so keep that in mind. On October 18 at the E for All (Entertainment For All Expo) in Los Angeles, people will be able to play Brawl. And (perhaps boldly), it will be available for play with the Wii Remote. Is that really going to be OK? No need for concern—I bet you can play it quite smoothly and simply...maybe. How about a little mental training before the time comes when you actually control it? __________________________________________________________________________________________________ Four Ways To Play: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Note: Each method is fully customizable so that you can map all of the controller functions yourself. Known Returning Characters: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler New Characters: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler The Missing: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Missing characters from SSB and SSBM Jigglypuff Luigi Captain Falcon Ness Gannondorf Marth Roy Game and Watch Mewtwo Young Link Dr. Mario Pichu Falco Interesting Fact: All of these characters have one thing in common: They were all hidden characters in their respective games. None of the returning characters so far were locked when you first started up the two games. Final Smashes: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Mario - Mario Finale Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Link - Triforce Slash Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Pikachu - Volt Tackle Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Samus - Zero Laser Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Bowser - Giga Bowser Transformation Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Donkey Kong - Konga Beat Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Yoshi - Super Dragon Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Pit - Palutena's Army Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Diddy - Rocketbarrel Barrage Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Pokemon Trainer - Triple Finish Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Fox - Landmaster Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Kirby - Cook Kirby Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler New Toys: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Crates and Barrels: What better to start with than basics. These item containers have been revamped to support the themes of certain levels. Assist Trophy: This is the Pokeball of the Nintendo Universe. Any kind of cameo you could think of comes from within... Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Known Assist trophies: Hammer Bros. Nintendog Samurai Goroh Dr. Wright Knuckle Joe Devil Andross-retro Lyn Mr. Resetti Excitebike Lakitu Pokeball: An alltime favorite. Which still randomly gives you a poke to cause massive destruction with. Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Chikorita Goldeen Groudon Deoxys Munchlax Piplup Gooey Bomb: The Gooey Bomb acts as a sticky Remote Mine. While stuck to a character, it can be passed back after making contact with another player. Cracker Launcher: This projectile launcher isn't as racist as it sounds. It might be more recognizable as a 'Roman Candle'. We saw it briefly in the short clip from Min-E3. Banana Peel: Because Cliche's work. Bumper: A return from the 64, relatable to Melee's Flipper item. A new twist leaves this possible to plant mid-air. Pitfall: The item from Animal Crossing. Surprisingly, it caries its ability from Animal Crossing over very well. Simply making characters fall thru holes or thru platforms. Smoke Ball: An original item, soley based on obscurity. This item deals no damage, but rather actually just blinds the player from the screen. Franklin Badge: Debuting from the Mother Series (Earthbound), this relates to Fox's Reflector, like the Screw Attack Ball relates to Samus' Screw Attack. Basically, it reflects projectiles. Spicy Curry: When a Fire Flower just can't suit your flaming needs. Golden Hammer: A coat of paint works wonders. Announced Stages: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Battlefield (Smash Bros.): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Delfino Plaza (Mario Sunshine): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Yoshi's Island (Yoshi's Island): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Lylat Cruise (Starfox): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Bridge to Eldin (Legend of Zelda): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Smashville (Animal Crossing): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Rumble Falls (Donkey Kong): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Skyworld (Kid Icarus): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Castle Seige (Fire Emblem): Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler WarioWare Ince. (WarioWare) Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Pokemon Stadium 2 (Pokemon) Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Battleship Halberd (Kirby) Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Shadow Moses Island (Metal Gear Solid) Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler New Pork City Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Such Pretty Music: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler First, a giant list of composers, accompanied by the new Menu Music: Menu Theme Now just some small clips to some music samples we've been given: Yoshi's Story: Ending Metroid: Ridley Battle Ocarina of Time Medly Star Fox: Space Armada Kid Icarus: Underworld Animal Crossing: Go K.K. Rider Pokemon Stadium/Evolution SSBB Theme Song Metal Gear: MGS4 Love Theme WarioWare: Ashley’s Theme WarioWare: Ashley’s Theme (Japanese Version) Series Represented: Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler So far, we've been given a list of series that have been represented, but as we get this list, its come to us out of order. We currently have gaps as shown: 1. Smash Brothers 2. Donkey Kong 3. StarFox 4. Kirby 5. F-Zero 6. Metroid 7. Earthbound/Mother 8. Pokemon 9. Zelda 10. Mario 11. Yoshi 12. Fire Emblem 13. ??? 14. Ice Climbers 15. Animal Crossing 16. Wario 17. Metal Gear 18. Kid Icarus 19. ??? 20. Sonic the Hedgehog * *20 Is the highest number we're aware of, it in no way indicates that it is the final number Another Interesting Fact: By smash tradition, there has never been a stage from a game without a character from that series representing this. That and an interview on the subject lead many to believe that an Animal Crossing character is all but confirmed. Discussion (Read: Bitchings) Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler These are some things to expect in regards to the updates. The type of updated listed, and the expected discussion that can follow. Music update - Next day spent argueing about MIDI files vs Orchestrated. Item update - Someone inevitably pisses off the competitve players with the "Why no items" arguement. Other than that, everyone is generally happy. B Moves update - People are generally meh about this towards returning characters, pretty happy about it towards new characters. Final Smash update - 1 of 2 updates that have universal appeal. Except Diddy apparently. New/Old Character update - Pretty cool to see old characters revamped. Pretty awesome to see brand new characters. Stage update - Next day spent arguing about gimmick levels vs. Battlefield/Final Destination. Tutorial update - Boring tutorials, but spectacular mode discussions. Movie update - Dicks cumming, all of them, simultaneously, with super mushroom power-ups.

Awesome Munkus, that is most helpful.

And thus the people wishing him to be playable had their dreams shattered. He was already confirmed though. This is just kicking us while we're down by announcing things on the site that we already know about. That's the problem with last week's conference and E for All. We've seen/we're going to see so much stuff that there's no way they can keep posting things we don't know about already. They should give us double updates when theres things from the press demo involved. Nate Bhildorff said in an interview that he translates these updates weeks before they're posted (Makes you wonder why they're so engrishy). They have no idea what all we're going to see ahead of time. I find it hard to believe they don't know whats in their own demo.

and I have no idea why they couldn't have made this guy playable Because he'd be really dull. In a world of magic, missiles, swords, fireballs and lightning bolts I'm afraid a variety of punches really doesn't cut it. Uh, ever played Killer Instinct? Punching dinosaurs in the face is fucking cool.

Here's hoping for new character Megaman/Hector/King Dedede tommorrow to finally bring this week to eleven.

The moment I looked at the update, I could hear the tortured screams of some people.

And thus the people wishing him to be playable had their dreams shattered. He was already confirmed though. This is just kicking us while we're down by announcing things on the site that we already know about. That's the problem with last week's conference and E for All. We've seen/we're going to see so much stuff that there's no way they can keep posting things we don't know about already. They should give us double updates when theres things from the press demo involved. Nate Bhildorff said in an interview that he translates these updates weeks before they're posted (Makes you wonder why they're so engrishy). They have no idea what all we're going to see ahead of time. They're engrishy because we love it.

Man, now I know how you Lyn guys felt

This week is a let-down so far, compared to the awesomeness that was the past two weeks. Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Blue dot. Yeah but the last few weeks were megaton weeks so we have to have a crap week every once in a while. But I hope tomorrow's update will be awesome

Friday will be a big announcement. Just you see.

This week is a let-down so far, compared to the awesomeness that was the past two weeks. Spoiler: show spoiler hide spoiler Blue dot. Yeah but the last few weeks were megaton weeks so we have to have a crap week every once in a while. But I hope tomorrow's update will be awesome I'm expecting a returning character tomorrow. Likely Captain Falcon, though I'm hoping for confirmation of the Ness or Marth variety.

I believe we shall endure a week of shitty of updates, but on Friday, we get this uber awesome update with Megaman, Leon Kennedy , and fucking Bruce Willis come out all in one video and at the end Mike the Helicopter guy comes out and Bruce Willis steals Snakes' Rocket Launcher and goes "Yippie Kai Yay Motherfucker" and shoots Mike out of the Sky while Leon screams "MIIIIKE!" omg, it could happen.

When the hell did you guys organize a tournament without me?

I believe we shall endure a week of shitty of updates, but on Friday, we get this uber awesome update with Megaman, Leon Kennedy , and fucking Bruce Willis come out all in one video and at the end Mike the Helicopter guy comes out and Bruce Willis steals Snakes' Rocket Launcher and goes "Yippie Kai Yay Motherfucker" and shoots Mike out of the Sky while Leon screams "MIIIIKE!" omg, it will happen.

You can still sign up for that Qorzm, no worries there. Although you actually want to PM Nickle about that.

When the hell did you guys organize a tournament without me? Crap, Qorzm's onto us.

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