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Old 01-17-2008, 11:38 AM
For those of you who took one look at the latest Transformers designs and dropped all expectations of decency, prepare to reconsider your positions.

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/animated/
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But they look so stupid!
Let's be honest, it's a kids cartoon. Yes, in static pictures, they look a little... doofy. But as Gabe pointed out a few weeks ago, this allows them greater levels of expression, particularly in robot mode. The pictures of Prime are a bit disingenous - his faceplate is almost never there, even in combat. It's not a dealbreaker - I've gotten used to seeing Prime with a mouth.

But they're so exaggerated. How do the transformations even work?
It's a cartoon, mang! But having said that, the toys look amazing.
http://www.seibertron.com/toys/galle...size=0&start=0
This is Bulkhead, I'm sure photos of the others will be forthcoming eventually. The sculpts look to be very faithful - I'm surprised.

Okay, what about the characters?
Let's get this out of the way first - there's no continuity with anything, but the series seems blissfully self-aware of this. The first episode makes reference to the Allspark (from the Bay movie), as well as the first episodes of the G1 cartoon). Continuity aside, there are the universal themes - Starscream is believably treacherous, Megs is suitably menacing (and fuckin' huge to boot). As for the Autobots, Prime is apparently a dropout from an elite academy for Autobot soldiers. Bumblebee takes on the "young" role previously filled by Hot Rod (G1) and Hotshot (Armada). Prowl is a ninja, Ratchet is something of a mix between the Ratchet and Kup - a grizzled veteran medic. Bulkhead is probably my favorite character - he's the loveable oaf, and he provides most of the comic relief along with Bumblebee.

It sounds stupid.
Listen, it's not War Within, and I don't think Furman is connected to the project. It's designed to sell toys to kids, and maybe a few adults. We're not going to get deep monologues on the nature of leadership or duty - the message is standard kids' stuff - work together, be true to yourself, etc. If I believed in the concept of a guilty pleasure, this would be one. If you don't enjoy it, that's your prerogative.

It sounds awesome!
Glad you think so. I'm not sure when it airs, but search YouTube for "fanoftransformers" - s/he's a user who breaks up the episodes by commercial break and uploads them. IIRC, Cartoon Network is usually pretty decent about YouTube videos. They left the entirety of Metalocalypse on YouTube until a month or two before the DVD release. So far, there are three episodes - a 90 minute intro episode (Transform and Roll Out), and two regular episodes. The first showcases Megs' awakening as a Unicron styled giant head (Home is Where the Spark Is), the second is the Dinobots episode (Blast From the Past).

So, regarding Grimlock... "Me Grimlock no dumb dino, me king! or Me Grimlock, badass!"
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So, who else here enjoys the show so far? Has anyone else noticed when it comes to Transformers, the things that are expected to be awesome are terrible (the movie, Beast Machines, Energon), whereas the things expected to be sucky are awesome (Beast Wars, this)?
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:55 PM
These designs are awful. The chins being the most annopying aspect. The fact that half the TF's looks like humans in armor pisses me off as well.

The toys are ... ugh. Megatron is about the only one I like. The glossy piant job was also unessecary.

The show itself is mediocre. That travesty of a Dinobot orgin is inexcusable. Also super allspark 8 year old is a most unwelcome plot device.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:20 PM
I don't mind the artstyle. Really, I don't. But Prime having a mouth (and fucking lips) is just... nerd-raging me up. I'm sorry, but it looks completely wrong.

The pilot "movie" didn't really do much for me either. The kids are as annoying as ever, and the giant termite was dumb. And then there's the fucking allspark. They did get a good voice actor for Starscream, though.

The dialogue is also terrible.

Prime: "Maybe I'm not programmed to be... a hero."

I'm not outraged about it or anything, though. If the younger audience likes it, good for them. It's definitely better than the movie.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:29 PM
Why - why do the robots have chins?

And the results from the rape kit test on my childhood - positive. Yes, my childhood was raped again.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:23 PM
Downloading now. I'll have an opinion sometime this weekend.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:56 PM
Man the toys are awesome.,

The premiere had a lot of promise... unfortunately I haven't been up early enough to see the other eps that have aired.
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Old 01-17-2008, 10:33 PM
God, it's making my eyes bleed. And I think the ringing in my ears is the screams of my childhood as it's being raped.
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Old 01-17-2008, 10:38 PM
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Why - why do the robots have chins?

And the results from the rape kit test on my childhood - positive. Yes, my childhood was raped again.
Wait until GI Joe comes out. Be sure to sure to bring the KY for that round or else there will be tearing.
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:10 AM
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Why - why do the robots have chins?
Somebody in Hasbro R&D is related to Jay Leno. Starscream is bad but wait untl Ultra Magnus and Sentinel Prime show up it's like fucking family guy.
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:27 AM
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Why - why do the robots have chins?
Somebody in Hasbro R&D is related to Jay Leno. Starscream is bad but wait untl Ultra Magnus and Sentinel Prime show up it's like fucking family guy.
You just wait, Starscream's Chin is going to be the breakout star of the show.
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:30 AM
sorry mr. op, i watched an episode and tried hard to like it, but decided it was just for kids (i.e., terrible).
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:05 AM
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Why - why do the robots have chins?

And the results from the rape kit test on my childhood - positive. Yes, my childhood was raped again.
Wait until GI Joe comes out. Be sure to sure to bring the KY for that round or else there will be tearing.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:15 AM
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Why - why do the robots have chins?

And the results from the rape kit test on my childhood - positive. Yes, my childhood was raped again.
Wait until GI Joe comes out. Be sure to sure to bring the KY for that round or else there will be tearing.
THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!
This man begs to differ.





I did watch a little bit of this new transformers and it sucks robot monkey balls(that have chins apparently). Optimus always came out as the leader right off the bat, but in this one he like some dumb kid who doesn't want the responsibility.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:55 AM
Ugh, just...ugh.

I've been following the details of the new series since it emerged and I have never liked the direction it headed. I love me some Teen Titans and I'm glad the crew gets more work but it is so not TRANSFORMERS. It's Teen Titans in fucking ARMOR!

The toys are also hella fucking ugly. Screw designs, if you can't make them *look* aesthetically pleasing than you lost the battle right there.
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:52 AM
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Why - why do the robots have chins?

And the results from the rape kit test on my childhood - positive. Yes, my childhood was raped again.
Wait until GI Joe comes out. Be sure to sure to bring the KY for that round or else there will be tearing.
THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!
This man begs to differ.

Why is 1/3 of Terrence Trent Darby going to disagree with me?

And, uh, yeah, the armor is still terrible. Round? How does round work as a robot shape when there's transforming into boxy vehicles I can break on Christmas day to be done?
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:17 AM
Yeah, I gotta go with the sentiment here and say that it's definitely not for me. While I can go lenient on the designs and the "Teen Titans" style art, the story and the dialogue were really, really grating on my nerves.

This isn't just for kids- but for kids. The kind with attention spans that measure in microseconds.

The only thing I liked was the "war documentary" using the original cartoon as footage. That was awesome.

I've yet to see the toys outside of Comic-Con last July. I thought they looked pretty good. I'm just waiting patiently for all the remaining TF movie garbage to be cleared out of the action figure aisle so that the good stuff can come back. (psst- Hasbro... Nobody wants the Optimus/Bumblebee walkie talkies or the Starscream arm/gun thingy...)
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:28 AM
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Why - why do the robots have chins?

And the results from the rape kit test on my childhood - positive. Yes, my childhood was raped again.
Wait until GI Joe comes out. Be sure to sure to bring the KY for that round or else there will be tearing.
THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!
This man begs to differ.

*snip*

Why is 1/3 of Terrence Trent Darby going to disagree with me?

And, uh, yeah, the armor is still terrible. Round? How does round work as a robot shape when there's transforming into boxy vehicles I can break on Christmas day to be done?
Because he is going to play ripcord.

I did noticed that this looked exactly looked like Teen Titans, which is a show that I kinda like. That show stopped aburtly which sucks because it was going into a more darker interesting area. I'm sad that it seems it was stopped to make this.......thing.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:54 AM
my only problem is they could use a bit of a higher budget so they could do a decent framerate for the series.

That and Hasbro won't be putting out the toys until June or July, I forget which of the two
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:21 PM
Personally, I like it.

Is it anything uber-amazing? No.

But you know what? The last good Transformers show we had was MOTHERFUCKING BEAST WARS. I WAS BELOW THE RECOMMENDED AGE WHEN THAT FUCKING SHOW CAME OUT. And if you're a 'trukk not munky' type, it's been TWENTY GODDAMNED YEARS.

I will accept ANYTHING that is better than the schlop they fed us for the unicron trilogy.

Plus, dammit, Soundwave comes with a guitar, at least two characters have Kamina-brand shades, and one is a half-insane German. I have to at least enjoy it as a guilty pleasure, if nothing else.

And, come on! The Angry Archer! How can you not love the Angry Archer?
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:27 PM
I tried watching the new series and I really fucking hate this new EXTREME animation that we see every day. But what do you expect, they're making these shows for kids. I'm sure I'd like it if I was 7.
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:21 PM
Yea I would have been all over this if I was 6 or 7.

But watching this for a few minutes makes me realize it sucks balls. I don't know what the OP was trying to sell us.
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Old 01-19-2008, 02:35 AM
It's pretty much on the level of Go-Bots. :|
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:53 AM
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Why - why do the robots have chins?

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It was asking for it.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:48 AM
Maybe I'm the weird one. I guess I just miss Saturday morning cartoons. I'm essentially an 8 year old with 26 years of experience and a sex drive. I went to Famous Dave's a week ago and started building things out of the interlocking coasters. I don't require all of my entertainment to be peak intellectual or fanboy satisfaction. Seriously, is it really any worse than G1? Honestly?

Plus, the girl looks like a Wind Waker character, which is smile-worthy to me.

Would I just about blow my load for a "grown-up" cartoon written by Furman? Hell yes, I would. I just read Origin: Megatron last night and loved it. But since that's not in the cards, I'll take this, and hope that TF continues to be a marketable franchise.
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Maybe I'm the weird one. I guess I just miss Saturday morning cartoons. I'm essentially an 8 year old with 26 years of experience and a sex drive. I went to Famous Dave's a week ago and started building things out of the interlocking coasters. I don't require all of my entertainment to be peak intellectual or fanboy satisfaction. Seriously, is it really any worse than G1? Honestly?

Plus, the girl looks like a Wind Waker character, which is smile-worthy to me.

Would I just about blow my load for a "grown-up" cartoon written by Furman? Hell yes, I would. I just read Origin: Megatron last night and loved it. But since that's not in the cards, I'll take this, and hope that TF continues to be a marketable franchise.
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