Is it legal to listen to music on headphones while driving? I'm not sure why I think it might not be since it's really not much different than listening to the radio but I want to be sure that the sight of me with earbuds on won't get me pulled over. Anyone know?
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Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
edited April 2009
It's a pretty terrible idea, so I would imagine you can get charged with "driving without proper care and attention".
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Just grab an FM transmitter for like 15$ and use that. It's both safer and more practical then having to deal with headphones and driving at the same time.
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Ever since I was small my mom (music major) instilled this paranoid fear of what using earphones at too loud a volume can do to your hearing. For a long time the car I was driving, the wiring for the speakers was completely fucked and so I just listened to my MP3 player/earbuds. Always kept them at a low level and I needed to anyway because in addition to needing to hear traffic around me the car I was driving was a stick without an RPM gauge.
On the other hand, shortly after I got my license, in my first car I was driving with the music up way too loud and the song I was listening to (believe it was Silver and Cold by AFI) the pitch of some of the notes was blending in perfectly with an ambulance that came right up behind me without me noticing for a few moments. I still feel pretty awful about that and wonder if the person on it was all right.
N.B. Motorcycles ride around with earplugs in under helmets. And that is ok. Having 50 Db of music from your awesome sound system that cost £800 is ok. But listening to headphones is 'dangerous'.
The law is, always has been, and always will be, an ass.
It is not excessively dangerous to listen to music through headphones. It probably is illegal in most places. I never noticed it affect my driving/riding. I advise against doing it.
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edited April 2009
headphones are nothing like listening to the radio, unless they're at extremely low volume they remove situational awareness. Even at modestly loud volumes your car's radio doesn't kill off situational awareness like headphones do.
the reason headphones are bad is because they block other sounds from going in your ear, having speakers that are away from your ear allows other sounds to reach them just as well. Maybe if you had those open-ear headphones it would be less bad.
don't do it.
If you're a biker you can get helmets with speakers in them which are not nearly as bad as wearing headphones.
*I wrote this thinking earbuds. . . earbuds are worse than headphones in this regard.
the order situational awarenessness probably looks something like this:
No music > radio > open ear headphones > closed ear headphones > earbuds
Ever since I was small my mom (music major) instilled this paranoid fear of what using earphones at too loud a volume can do to your hearing. For a long time the car I was driving, the wiring for the speakers was completely fucked and so I just listened to my MP3 player/earbuds. Always kept them at a low level and I needed to anyway because in addition to needing to hear traffic around me the car I was driving was a stick without an RPM gauge.
On the other hand, shortly after I got my license, in my first car I was driving with the music up way too loud and the song I was listening to (believe it was Silver and Cold by AFI) the pitch of some of the notes was blending in perfectly with an ambulance that came right up behind me without me noticing for a few moments. I still feel pretty awful about that and wonder if the person on it was all right.
They generally don't use the siren when a patient is on board, it stresses them out. The only thing you did was prevent them from getting to the victim.
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Yea, legal or not, it's stupid, and you should not do it. It's not so much the volume but the fact that most headphones at least partially block outside noise from reaching your ear.
If you're a biker you can get helmets with speakers in them which are not nearly as bad as wearing headphones.
Helmet speakers are terrible. Wind noise at highway speed can exceed 100dB, and now you're trying to pump music over that. You won't have much awareness when you've gone deaf.
If you're a biker you can get helmets with speakers in them which are not nearly as bad as wearing headphones.
Helmet speakers are terrible. Wind noise at highway speed can exceed 100dB, and now you're trying to pump music over that. You won't have much awareness when you've gone deaf.
Most Bikers do not listen to music anyway, we get earplugs so the above mentioned wind noise does not deafen us....
On the other hand, shortly after I got my license, in my first car I was driving with the music up way too loud and the song I was listening to (believe it was Silver and Cold by AFI) the pitch of some of the notes was blending in perfectly with an ambulance that came right up behind me without me noticing for a few moments. I still feel pretty awful about that and wonder if the person on it was all right.
Maybe it's just because I'm tall, but I've never understood how anyone could ever miss flashing lights in their mirror. I mean, the thing pretty much is right in my face and I have to duck to see under it to the right.
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acidlacedpenguinInstitutionalizedSafe in jail.Registered Userregular
edited April 2009
meh bikers forfeit their right to complain lololol u only haf 2 wheels what up with that?
not for serious, honest. I stand corrected and now I feel silly.
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On the other hand, shortly after I got my license, in my first car I was driving with the music up way too loud and the song I was listening to (believe it was Silver and Cold by AFI) the pitch of some of the notes was blending in perfectly with an ambulance that came right up behind me without me noticing for a few moments. I still feel pretty awful about that and wonder if the person on it was all right.
Maybe it's just because I'm tall, but I've never understood how anyone could ever miss flashing lights in their mirror. I mean, the thing pretty much is right in my face and I have to duck to see under it to the right.
I think you are giving the average driver's spatial awareness too much credit.
in california 1 earbud is legal, covers bluetooth and such nonsense
Most Bluetooth headsets do not count as "hands-free," especially for dialing. Neither are most of those BT speakerphones or the new "green" solar-powered ones that clip to your visor. My Parrot SK4000 motorcycle kit does count as hands-free. Heck, it syncs with my phone book so the phone doesn't even have to support voice dialing.
If you're a biker you can get helmets with speakers in them which are not nearly as bad as wearing headphones.
Helmet speakers are terrible. Wind noise at highway speed can exceed 100dB, and now you're trying to pump music over that. You won't have much awareness when you've gone deaf.
Most Bikers do not listen to music anyway, we get earplugs so the above mentioned wind noise does not deafen us....
They make $200 in-ear headphones + earplugs specifically for motorcycles. I guess it matters less when you already can't hear traffic over your exhaust, wind noise, helmet, and earplugs.
Riders have to be visually more aware of what it going on around them anyway... you are trained to pretend you are invisible and that no one sees you, even when making direct eye contact. You just don't register as a vehicle in some poeple's minds.
That said, cars that have tried to occupy my lane have gone completely undeterred by my little "meep meep" horn. It's been very clear to me that they often can't hear me, so something needs to be said about THEIR ability to hear outside noises. All their seals and vibration dampeners to reduce ambient noise from the road, wind, engine, and other external sources have their drawbacks. I mean, being exposed on the bike, it sounds plenty loud enough to me, but a stupidly loud one can be had for about $10 so I will be remedying that.
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Skip the headphones while driving. If nothing else, you'd hate to not notice an ambulance coming up behind you.
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On the other hand, shortly after I got my license, in my first car I was driving with the music up way too loud and the song I was listening to (believe it was Silver and Cold by AFI) the pitch of some of the notes was blending in perfectly with an ambulance that came right up behind me without me noticing for a few moments. I still feel pretty awful about that and wonder if the person on it was all right.
Doesn't mean you should.
The law is, always has been, and always will be, an ass.
It is not excessively dangerous to listen to music through headphones. It probably is illegal in most places. I never noticed it affect my driving/riding. I advise against doing it.
the reason headphones are bad is because they block other sounds from going in your ear, having speakers that are away from your ear allows other sounds to reach them just as well. Maybe if you had those open-ear headphones it would be less bad.
don't do it.
If you're a biker you can get helmets with speakers in them which are not nearly as bad as wearing headphones.
*I wrote this thinking earbuds. . . earbuds are worse than headphones in this regard.
the order situational awarenessness probably looks something like this:
No music > radio > open ear headphones > closed ear headphones > earbuds
They generally don't use the siren when a patient is on board, it stresses them out. The only thing you did was prevent them from getting to the victim.
Helmet speakers are terrible. Wind noise at highway speed can exceed 100dB, and now you're trying to pump music over that. You won't have much awareness when you've gone deaf.
Most Bikers do not listen to music anyway, we get earplugs so the above mentioned wind noise does not deafen us....
Maybe it's just because I'm tall, but I've never understood how anyone could ever miss flashing lights in their mirror. I mean, the thing pretty much is right in my face and I have to duck to see under it to the right.
I think you are giving the average driver's spatial awareness too much credit.
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Definitely, but that's no reason to make it worse =p
Most Bluetooth headsets do not count as "hands-free," especially for dialing. Neither are most of those BT speakerphones or the new "green" solar-powered ones that clip to your visor. My Parrot SK4000 motorcycle kit does count as hands-free. Heck, it syncs with my phone book so the phone doesn't even have to support voice dialing.
They make $200 in-ear headphones + earplugs specifically for motorcycles. I guess it matters less when you already can't hear traffic over your exhaust, wind noise, helmet, and earplugs.
Riders have to be visually more aware of what it going on around them anyway... you are trained to pretend you are invisible and that no one sees you, even when making direct eye contact. You just don't register as a vehicle in some poeple's minds.
That said, cars that have tried to occupy my lane have gone completely undeterred by my little "meep meep" horn. It's been very clear to me that they often can't hear me, so something needs to be said about THEIR ability to hear outside noises. All their seals and vibration dampeners to reduce ambient noise from the road, wind, engine, and other external sources have their drawbacks. I mean, being exposed on the bike, it sounds plenty loud enough to me, but a stupidly loud one can be had for about $10 so I will be remedying that.
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