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Old 05-19-2009, 11:43 AM
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I, for one, do not want to see Steele resign.

It just increases the chance we get a competent chairm...Err, a less hilariously bumbling chairman chosen merely for the color of his skin.
Uh, what? If he resigns, they'll probably appoint someone who's even more likely to kowtow to the far-right. Steele's one of their last, best hopes for relevancy in the next decade and we've all seen how well that's gone.
He's really not moderate, he's center-INSANE.
That makes him a moderate by comparison to the rest of the Republican party.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:44 AM
Man... the only person capable of replacing the characticture that is Steel is Yosemite Sam... and I heard he became an independent.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:45 AM
So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:47 AM
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
I'd prefer something completely new. Let the Repubs become a fringe party and give rise to something else. After all, nothing spells success like coalition governments.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:47 AM
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
I want to see them head right until they fall off the edge of the earth. That should leave enough room for a party of sane moderate conservatives to fill the vacuum.

But mostly I just want them to burn.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:48 AM
Anyone wants to bet on whether Steele really resigns? He is already a figurehead, he was elected for no reason but to be a figurehead, and now he's threatening to resign if he becomes a figurehead... that's like someone fighting hard to get a job at McDonnalds then threatening to resign if he's ever asked to make a hamburger while making 10 burgers a minute. It's nothing but attention-grabbing cheap talk that he'll never follow through on.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:48 AM
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
I too would like to see an actual GOP instead of the power hungry little kids wharrgrrbbllling all over the place. Some republican ideas are actually good for the country. But right now there doesn't seem to be anybody coming up the ranks that's actually sane and competent. And the outspoken leaders of the republican party seem to see it as a good idea to keep it that way.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:48 AM
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
I'd like to see it. I just think it's going to be a while. We have to wait for the madness in the party to run it's course and eventually they will snap out of it. But we've moved far enough right of center that I think a couple of terms of Dems controlling things will get us back to a more center course.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:49 AM
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I, for one, do not want to see Steele resign.

It just increases the chance we get a competent chairm...Err, a less hilariously bumbling chairman chosen merely for the color of his skin.
Uh, what? If he resigns, they'll probably appoint someone who's even more likely to kowtow to the far-right. Steele's one of their last, best hopes for relevancy in the next decade and we've all seen how well that's gone.
Problem is, Steele has no real support from within his own party to implement his idea's, nor the Balls to uphold his convictions.

If he had actually had the fortitude of will to not apologize to rush and said "No, Rush is an idiot Who is utterly detatched from any of the problems facing the majority of americans and only represents the folks who will always vote republican. Seriously, FUCK HIM" Then the reublicans might have pulled there heads out of there asses and noticed that hey, Neoconism is currently political toxic waste, and looking to the middle is what is needed to salvage the party.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:56 AM
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:57 AM
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
How do you see the Republican party coming back to sanity? The way I see it, the more the crazy far-right wing of the party gains power, the more moderate voters are turned to independents or Democrats and the more moderate elected Republicans are voted out because of their party's bad image. And the more moderate voters and elected Republicans are out of the party, the more power the crazy far-right wing gets. It's a vicious cycle, and at each iteration it leaves the party smaller and more crazy. I don't see any way for them to break out of it.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:58 AM
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
At this juncture, It might be best for the moderate republicans to split off and form there own Conservative party; the stink of the bush regime and current insanity may be too much for the party to recover from in any sort of a timely fashion.

And frankly, the democrats do need strong opposition, since having such will make them fight harder and be better to reigns of power. Otherwise, I forsee a day when the democrats become as insane and corrupt as the Gop was during the bush era.
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Problem is, Steele has no real support from within his own party to implement his idea's, nor the Balls to uphold his convictions.

If he had actually had the fortitude of will to not apologize to rush and said "No, Rush is an idiot Who is utterly detatched from any of the problems facing the majority of americans and only represents the folks who will always vote republican. Seriously, FUCK HIM" Then the reublicans might have pulled there heads out of there asses and noticed that hey, Neoconism is currently political toxic waste, and looking to the middle is what is needed to salvage the party.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:58 AM
but acting like that's going to happen now is just delusional. Theyre gonna need to spend some quality time in the wilderness first.
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Old 05-19-2009, 12:00 PM
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
I'd prefer sanity, I just don't see it as a likely result of the current course of events. It would be preferred, but I see DADT being repealed and a pentagon sponsored jazz-tap your way to peace in the middle east department forming before the GOP figures out that they're not going to wrap the value on marginalized and come out a supermajority. Intelligent Design implies input sanitation.
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Old 05-19-2009, 12:01 PM
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I don't have anything to say about his resignation, but I love my new sig.
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
How do you see the Republican party coming back to sanity? The way I see it, the more the crazy far-right wing of the party gains power, the more moderate voters are turned to independents or Democrats and the more moderate elected Republicans are voted out because of their party's bad image. And the more moderate voters and elected Republicans are out of the party, the more power the crazy far-right wing gets. It's a vicious cycle, and at each iteration it leaves the party smaller and more crazy. I don't see any way for them to break out of it.
The only way I could see the republicans regaining power under such circumstances would be some sort of massive failure that could be tied directly and unequivicably to the democrats; We're talking like a major terrorist attack, collosal recession, Nuclear launch from korea or iran, ect.
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
How do you see the Republican party coming back to sanity? The way I see it, the more the crazy far-right wing of the party gains power, the more moderate voters are turned to independents or Democrats and the more moderate elected Republicans are voted out because of their party's bad image. And the more moderate voters and elected Republicans are out of the party, the more power the crazy far-right wing gets. It's a vicious cycle, and at each iteration it leaves the party smaller and more crazy. I don't see any way for them to break out of it.
The only way I could see the republicans regaining power under such circumstances would be some sort of massive failure that could be tied directly and unequivicably to the democrats; We're talking like a major terrorist attack, collosal recession, Nuclear launch from korea or iran, ect.
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Old 05-19-2009, 12:09 PM
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
True, but as we're seeing, the GOP in its current form isn't going to become sane. At all. They made the argument that McCain wasn't far-right enough, so in 2012, the far-right will handpick their nominee- Palin, Rush, Gingrich, whatever- and pretty much force it on the moderates whether they like it or not. And when- not if, when- Obama skullcracks that nominee at the polls, the far-right has no excuses. Or at least, none they will be able to use and have people take them seriously. Until that, this is going to continue.

From there, one of two things will happen:

1. The far-right is forced into at least some form of capitulation, having been soundly defeated three, possibly four times at the polls in the span of eight years (pending 2010 results). No amount of glossing-over is going to mitigate the damage to their policy positions. By this time the older members of the far-right will have retired or died, and younger moderates begin to take the party back.
2. The Dems will have so thoroughly crushed the GOP- three, possibly four times in the span of eight years (pending 2010)- that the far-right simply ceases to be a viable political entity. Anyone remotely moderate will have fled to the Dems, and the Dems, by this time probably at a two-thirds majority in the Senate, will simply wait for the GOP, out of ideas and unwilling to produce new ones, to go the way of the Whigs. Then we wait for the Blue Dogs break off over some issue or other, and the two-party system reasserts itself.

It's that two-thirds margin that's the one to watch. All manner of power flows to a side that can get two-thirds- 67 Senate seats. You can veto bills, convict an impeached President, expel someone from the Senate, etc. Once that mark is hit, then the death of the minority party becomes a real possibility, and at the rate we're going, it may only be a few cycles away.
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Old 05-19-2009, 12:09 PM
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De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
It is if it's your party.
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So, out of curiosity, am I the only one who would prefer the GOP become sane rather than increasingly unhinged? De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
How do you see the Republican party coming back to sanity? The way I see it, the more the crazy far-right wing of the party gains power, the more moderate voters are turned to independents or Democrats and the more moderate elected Republicans are voted out because of their party's bad image. And the more moderate voters and elected Republicans are out of the party, the more power the crazy far-right wing gets. It's a vicious cycle, and at each iteration it leaves the party smaller and more crazy. I don't see any way for them to break out of it.
The only way I could see the republicans regaining power under such circumstances would be some sort of massive failure that could be tied directly and unequivicably to the democrats; We're talking like a major terrorist attack, collosal recession, Nuclear launch from korea or iran, ect.
Pelosi sex tape.
That will never get out. Because no one in their right minds would see something marked "Pelosi Sex Tape" and choose to open it.

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Old 05-19-2009, 12:11 PM
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De facto one-party rule isn't all puppies and blowjobs.
It is if it's your party.
Especially if you happen to vote for the Puppies and Blowjobs Party.

I usually write them in on my ballot. I know the odds are slim at best, but hey, you never know!
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