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[4e/FR] Scions of Splendor OOC

Wait, what? Another FR game from Arivia?

Yes. We don't have enough FR games here and I seem to do a pretty good job at them, so...

What This Is

A 4e Dungeons and Dragons Forgotten Realms game set in the Gem of the North, Waterdeep. Once called the City of Splendors, Waterdeep's might and glory have receded, leaving the once-cultural and trrade center of the North to turn in upon itself. Still, a city that has lived for over a thousand years will not die quietly, and the guilds, noble houses, ancient mysteries - just the sheer people of Waterdeep - still have their stories to tell.

In this game, the party is a young group of noble scions, familiar - some might say friends - from the ball scene and the party circuit. Why the focus on origin? Well, unlike most games here, this will be a sandbox game. That is, I have no predefined plotline or goals for the characters to follow: I'll be putting out hooks and hints, planning some intrigues that you can stumble on if you'd like, so forth and so on, but no main story exists for you to be beholden to. This is about your adventures in the City of Splendors, not what happened on Elesias 22 1479.

So, how about those rules? Well, they're a bit intertwined, so let's start at the beginning and work our way through. First and foremost, I would not recommend new players apply. This is a complicated submission process with a good deal of extra detail involved. You can if you'd like, but I'll be preferring people already in a game here.

Sources

You'll need at least a copy of the Player's Handbook and the Forgotten Realms' Player's Guide. A copy of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide is highly recommended for the extra details it gives on Waterdeep.

You can use any printed material excepting the DMG2 or the Adventurer's Vault 2, just because I don't have them yet. Make sure whatever choices you make, however, make sense in the context of the Realms and your noble house (see next step.) Warforged or artificers you're going to have to do a lot of convincing to get in, for example.

Your Noble House

Before you even crack open the books, you have another part of character design to think about that will influence a lot about your character. Each character has to pick a noble house they're descended from/part of. Each one should be different. "But wait!" you say. "I don't know all the crazy Forgotten Realms details and Ed Greenwood will eat me if I spell Dhansczul wrong."

Well, this is where I give you some starter resources. This is a writeup of all of the Waterdhavian noble houses in 2006/1374 DR (in-game.) Note that 1374 DR - it's a hundred years out of date. Luckily, this Candlekeep thread (don't post on Candlekeep, don't) has a list of any new/updated noble houses as of 1479 DR (including a few that have died since the first link. If it's not there, just continue on with the first link's details.)

So, pick one of those and flesh it out! Make it yours! The vast majority of noble houses have some little detail on them like "is vaguely associated with the raising of elk-goat hybrids" and nothing more, so you're fine. If you're wondering what a more substantial bit on a noble house might look at, see page 5 of this. Don't worry too much about what's in the notes, especially a hundred years on. And don't worry about tripping over some obscure reference. Have fun.

Now, there are a handful with a bit more development that you probably want to stay away from. Those are: Eltorchul, Moonstar, Silmerhelve, Thann, Tchazzam, Ulbrinter and Wands.

Doing noble houses like this raises some issues, though. First and foremost, Waterdeep's noble houses are all generally human. What if you want to play an elf or dwarf? Well, a good number of them have seen some degree of interracial marriage. If you look at the footnotes in Noble Houses, they suggest origins for tiefling or dragonborn characters. Many eladrin have intermarried into the noble houses over the years. Finally, if you'd like to play a different race, you can explain your character as unusually stocky or small, or subject to some magical experiment. Make it make sense and we'll go with it. (as a side note, the Ethnicity line in Noble Houses is about the subraces of humans. It basically just relates to character appearance - there's pictures of most of them here, and I'll post a guide in a bit. If you're making up a new house, please include an ethnicity.)

Second, we're nobles! We have noble stuff! This is true. Especially as we're starting at level 3, you get a fair bit of coin. To simplify things, your items and money in that manner are fluid wealth that you can fritter away on adventuring. You may have a fleet of fishing ships that plies the Trackless Sea, but you can't exchange them for a +33 sword of dragon-thwapping. Same with noble luxuries: feel free to have as many ball gowns and "gleamings" (worthless magical trinkets that glow or sparkle, or play some minor party trick) as you'd like.

Backgrounds?

Everyone's from Waterdeep, everyone takes the Waterdeep background.

Weapon/Implement Expertise?

Everyone gets one of their choice for free.

How do I submit a character?

READ THE ENTIRETY OF THIS POST. Use 22-point point buy, you're third level, and post a sheet on either myth-weavers or Orokos. Your submission should include a character background, description, and details on your noble house. Oh, and an answer to this setting question.

Yes/no Downshadow?

What is she going on about. Basically, Waterdeep as currently written includes an underground community called Downshadow, which takes over the first level of Undermountain, the giant dungeon underneath Waterdeep. If you folks are more stylistically interested in dungeon-crawling, we should remove Downshadow just to open Undermountain up as an actual dungeon; otherwise we can leave it in for intrigue's sake. Note that this isn't a yes/no dungeons period question, just how much of it you'd like to do.

Applications will be open for a good while. Eternal is still ongoing and will need a controller replacement soon. And yes, your characters should know each other before the start of play.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    Reserved for any extra details.

    Also, since someone will try, don't pick a house like one from Eberron and take a dragonmark. It doesn't work that way in the Realms at all.

    Common languages in Waterdeep include Common, Chondathan, Illuskan, Elven, Dwarven and the other racial languages by order of importance.

    If anyone has any questions about the Realms I'm happy to answer.

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  • 3clipse3clipse Registered User regular
    Hmm. Cautiously interested? But I will need some time to sit down and read that tome of information before I start designing a character =P.

    When do submissions close?

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    3clipse wrote: »
    Hmm. Cautiously interested? But I will need some time to sit down and read that tome of information before I start designing a character =P.

    When do submissions close?

    "a good while" was in the op. I'm not sure just yet, I'll give at least five days notice of the close of submissions.

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  • kuhlmeyekuhlmeye Registered User regular
    Interested for sure.

    Thinking about a wealth land owning someone from house Thann.

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  • SuperRuperSuperRuper Registered User regular
    Interested. Consider this a slot for a character

  • EgosEgos God Hand Registered User regular
    Thinking of either Arternel, Gauntyl, or Ilvastar . Though Bladesemmer is appealing with the "designing exotic body armor" :D

  • kuhlmeyekuhlmeye Registered User regular
    Never mind house Thann, because I can't read! I'll pick a different house that has its fingers in real estate!

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  • samurai6966samurai6966 Registered User
    I might get a character in here. Just got FR last week so I haven't had time to really read it (as most games here have been homebrew setting or Eberron [which ain't bad but still]) but I'll go through it and try unless you believe that it might be to in dept for me.

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    Yeah, some times I just want to get my farm in shape without being bothered by green explosive dildos.
  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    I might get a character in here. Just got FR last week so I haven't had time to really read it (as most games here have been homebrew setting or Eberron [which ain't bad but still]) but I'll go through it and try unless you believe that it might be to in dept for me.

    It'll be a lot of reading, I'll put it that way.

    Also! When you submit your noble house, please include one house they're friendly/allies with, and one they're antagonistic/enemies of.

    We should probably do a coat of arms too, but I can't break into that quite right now.

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  • adventfallsadventfalls Why would you wish to know? Registered User regular
    Looks interesting. Here's hoping newbies are A-OK.

    EDIT: Or not. Reread the OP. ^^;; Doesn't mean I can't try...

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  • Stranger DangerStranger Danger Registered User regular
    Grr, I've got a 3rd level Sorcerer ready but myth-weavers keeps eating my sheet! Would it be alright to e-mail a PDF of the sheet or to post it here?

    Also by 'all things published' I imagine you mean no dragon magazine stuff?

    I have the forgotten realms players guide, but I've never read the fiction, so I'll be playing a fairly obtuse nobleman who doesn't know the big names (outside of the players guide of course).

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  • kuhlmeyekuhlmeye Registered User regular
    Ok, once I have my backstory and everything in order, expect to see a Prescient Bard from The Noble House of Nadar posted in here.

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  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies Registered User regular
    Grr, I've got a 3rd level Sorcerer ready but myth-weavers keeps eating my sheet!

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  • Stranger DangerStranger Danger Registered User regular
    Grr, I've got a 3rd level Sorcerer ready but myth-weavers keeps eating my sheet!

    4e.orokos.com
    is MW and IC rolled into one.

    Your sir/madam are a killer of kings and destroyer of worlds. I thank you from the bottomless depths of my heart.

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    "Hey Kid, I have candy... Let me give you candy..." - Katrinonus
  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    How do you feel about hybrid classes? I have an idea for an elven fighter/ranger that uses a longbow and dual wields swords. All the powers are in either MP or PHB 1, he gets use of fighter's mark and hunter's quarry but none of the other class features.

  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies Registered User regular
    Grr, I've got a 3rd level Sorcerer ready but myth-weavers keeps eating my sheet!

    4e.orokos.com
    is MW and IC rolled into one.

    Your sir/madam are a killer of kings and destroyer of worlds. I thank you from the bottomless depths of my heart.

    Wait until you meet Infidel.

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  • samurai6966samurai6966 Registered User
    Grr, I've got a 3rd level Sorcerer ready but myth-weavers keeps eating my sheet!

    4e.orokos.com
    is MW and IC rolled into one.

    Your sir/madam are a killer of kings and destroyer of worlds. I thank you from the bottomless depths of my heart.

    Wait until you meet Infidel.

    All Hail Infidel!

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    Yeah, some times I just want to get my farm in shape without being bothered by green explosive dildos.
  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    Also by 'all things published' I imagine you mean no dragon magazine stuff?

    It's all things printed, so yes, no Dragon magazine.
    How do you feel about hybrid classes? I have an idea for an elven fighter/ranger that uses a longbow and dual wields swords. All the powers are in either MP or PHB 1, he gets use of fighter's mark and hunter's quarry but none of the other class features.

    I don't think hybrid classes have been printed in a supplement yet.

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  • tzeentchlingtzeentchling Dr. Doctor Oakland, CARegistered User regular
    Fascinating idea. I want to apply for this, but give me some time to get things in order. Perhaps a foppish, prancing swordsman/swordmage, with a penchant for big hats and loose women.

    Out of the country April 14 - May 5. May not respond to threads in that time.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    Okay!

    A few points of clarification and more detail for that should be applicable to submissions:

    Starting Gold- if you're not familiar with it, the starting equipment for level 3 characters is one level 4 item, one level 3 item, one level 2 item, and 520 gp.

    Human Ethnicities- I promised some more details on this, and here they are. The human ethnicities common in Waterdeep are Illuskan, Chondathan and Tethyrian.

    Illuskans are seafarers, originally from the island of Ruathym, far to the north and west. They have pale skin and blond hair, often with blue or green eyes. After a series of tribal wars on Ruathym, many Illuskans left the island: it is those who landed at the Mirar River to the north and founded the city of Illusk there that most Illuskans are descended from. They made their way down the Sword Coast, further strengthened by more emigrants from Ruathym, and eventually an Illuskan warchief named Nimoar made his hold where Waterdeep is today.

    Chondathans are the people descended from the cradle of the Vilhon Reach. They spread quickly due to a penchant for trade and travel, but a boom-bust cycle predicated upon two tyrannical horrific empires (Jhaamdath and Chondath) shattered any unified Chondathan state. Today, Chondathan people can be found almost anywhere in Faerun, especially west and north of the Sea of Fallen Stars. They have ruddy or olive skin, and their hair is often brown or black.

    Tethyrians are a newer racial group, a product of intermarriage between Chondathan traders from the east and Calishite conquerors from the south in the area north of the Lake of Steam. The short Tethyrian history is clogged with civil war, from the dissolution of Tethyr to the slave rebellions in Amn. Somehow, Chondathan blood mediated the swarthy Calishite features, resulting in people with fair to olive skin and deep black hair.

    (Note that I'm writing this from memory, so I may have gotten something wrong.)

    Coats of Arms- All Waterdhavian noble houses have their own coats or crests. Many of them are quite simple, consisting of one or two colors and one element placed on a shield. The Thann crest here is a good example.

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  • fe1dmanfe1dman Registered User
    Septimus Cassalanter of the House Cassalanter

    Background
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    Description
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    House Cassalanter
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    Setting
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    Character Builder Summary
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    Can I trade my level 3 item and use the gold left to purchase two level 2 items?

    Also, how many submissions can we have per player?

  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    fe1dman wrote: »
    Septimus Finn of the House Cassalanter

    Hmm, that could work out well - I'm currently putting together the bio for a character from house Dezlentyr, and had already selected House Cassalanter as an allied house. I'll have my submission up shortly.

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  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    OK, here goes. I present to you:

    Calwyn Dezlentyr, of House Dezlentyr


    Background:
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    Description:
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    House Dezlentyr:
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    Character Sheet (in progress):
    Magic Items:
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    Setting - I'm in favor of Downshadow, but don't have a strong feeling either way.

    Let me know if you have any questions.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    shalmelo wrote: »
    fe1dman wrote: »
    Septimus Finn of the House Cassalanter

    Hmm, that could work out well - I'm currently putting together the bio for a character from house Dezlentyr, and had already selected House Cassalanter as an allied house. I'll have my submission up shortly.
    oh my,i hadn't responded to your pm yet, I am so sorry

    if rainy sees this there's a climate writeup in the 3e frcs

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  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    Arivia wrote: »
    shalmelo wrote: »
    fe1dman wrote: »
    Septimus Finn of the House Cassalanter

    Hmm, that could work out well - I'm currently putting together the bio for a character from house Dezlentyr, and had already selected House Cassalanter as an allied house. I'll have my submission up shortly.
    oh my,i hadn't responded to your pm yet, I am so sorry

    if rainy sees this there's a climate writeup in the 3e frcs

    No worries - I still haven't purchased the 4E FR stuff, but I was home sick from work today and spent a couple hours getting germs all over some sourcebooks at Barnes & Noble before putting them back on the shelf. :?

    I promise to actually purchase them if my submission is accepted. But yeah, I'm a PbP newb, so I understand if you'd rather move forward with some vets.

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  • EgosEgos God Hand Registered User regular
    Do you want us to photoshop our Coat of Arms or is a description suffice?

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    shalmelo wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    shalmelo wrote: »
    fe1dman wrote: »
    Septimus Finn of the House Cassalanter

    Hmm, that could work out well - I'm currently putting together the bio for a character from house Dezlentyr, and had already selected House Cassalanter as an allied house. I'll have my submission up shortly.
    oh my,i hadn't responded to your pm yet, I am so sorry

    if rainy sees this there's a climate writeup in the 3e frcs

    No worries - I still haven't purchased the 4E FR stuff, but I was home sick from work today and spent a couple hours getting germs all over some sourcebooks at Barnes & Noble before putting them back on the shelf. :?

    I promise to actually purchase them if my submission is accepted. But yeah, I'm a PbP newb, so I understand if you'd rather move forward with some vets.

    Don't worry, I'll consider your application just like the others. I just didn't want you to go drop $100 and not get in.
    Egos wrote: »
    Do you want us to photoshop our Coat of Arms or is a description suffice?

    Description is perfectly fine.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    fe1dman wrote: »
    Can I trade my level 3 item and use the gold left to purchase two level 2 items?

    No.
    Also, how many submissions can we have per player?

    Up to five? Like, you probably shouldn't do five, but hermenegilde

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  • Stranger DangerStranger Danger Registered User regular
    Presenting Walik Rosznar, Noble Fratboy

    http://4e.orokos.com/sheets/1186

    House Rosznar Background
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    Traditional Enemy: House Estelmer
    Traditional Ally: House Artemel

    Character Background
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    Or maybe he'll reach for greatness.

    Description
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    Downshadow
    I would say yes to Downshadow, considering how much business his house does there. A little would be fine, though I wouldn't mind the occasional dungeon crawl and it's the stupid sort of thing Welik would want to try.

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  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    LOL, a submission from House Cassalanter AND a submission from House Rosznar? What were the odds?

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  • Stranger DangerStranger Danger Registered User regular
    Is... is that bad? Good?

    Also apparently House Phylund doesn't exist anymore. Would those Cassalanter dudes make reasonable allies?

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  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    Is... is that bad? Good?

    Also apparently House Phylund doesn't exist anymore. Would those Cassalanter dudes make reasonable allies?


    Read my house description - I picked out Cassalanter as allies and Rosznar as enemies prior to seeing either of your submissions.

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  • Stranger DangerStranger Danger Registered User regular
    Fair enough. I'll pick a different one then.

    "Magical fairies, come with me please. I could really use your help!" - Kaseius

    "Hey Kid, I have candy... Let me give you candy..." - Katrinonus
  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    Fair enough. I'll pick a different one then.

    Nah, it's cool - I'm sort of the black sheep of my house, and I could easily see myself palling around with someone from our traditional enemies just to piss off mom and dad. Just thought it was funny...

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  • interrobanginterrobang we can tear up this rotten world together we'll break and smash and pound it into dustRegistered User regular
    shalmelo wrote: »
    Fair enough. I'll pick a different one then.

    Nah, it's cool - I'm sort of the black sheep of my house, and I could easily see myself palling around with someone from our traditional enemies just to piss off mom and dad. Just thought it was funny...

    I'm kinda hoping someone submits a character from House Ralnarth (the closest thing House Anteos has to an enemy, afaik) so my warlock-to-be can have someone to get snarky with all the time.

  • fe1dmanfe1dman Registered User
    Arivia wrote: »
    fe1dman wrote: »
    Can I trade my level 3 item and use the gold left to purchase two level 2 items?

    No.
    Also, how many submissions can we have per player?

    Up to five? Like, you probably shouldn't do five, but hermenegilde

    Ok, updated my sheet and submission to fix equipment. :D Soooo looking forward to this

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    shalmelo wrote: »
    Fair enough. I'll pick a different one then.

    Nah, it's cool - I'm sort of the black sheep of my house, and I could easily see myself palling around with someone from our traditional enemies just to piss off mom and dad. Just thought it was funny...

    I'm kinda hoping someone submits a character from House Ralnarth (the closest thing House Anteos has to an enemy, afaik) so my warlock-to-be can have someone to get snarky with all the time.

    Don't worry too much about having your house's enemies/allies represented in the party. We can massage it if necessary while you folks figure out how you know each other.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    Probably going to make a Tiefling wizard for this.

  • RaddueRaddue Registered User
    Quinn Aethe of House Aethe

    Appearance:
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    Background and Personality:
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    House
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    I'm a PbP noob (only being in a short lived one once in the past) so I'll understand if I'm passed over but either way, I'm super stoked about this game.

  • Stranger DangerStranger Danger Registered User regular
    Since we don't want a striker sausage festival, I now present Zekrah 'Zeke' Eltorchul, the Silent Knight or The Sword, Board, and Bird triple threat!

    http://4e.orokos.com/sheets/1201

    House Eltorchul Background
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    Zeke's Background
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    Description
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    See previous character about the underworld place.

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