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HESHER
n.

1. See also Butt Rocker.

2. Any form of rock music and / or listener, sporting a mullet, eye makeup, hairspray, tight acid washed jeans and hi-top Reeboks.

Welcome to the Grand Battalion Nekrokreuz Sigma Save the Avanc Bakesale: Convocation at Tain Hollow (aka let's talk about cool music and satan and stuff). You may have entered a hesher, but you'll leave on a screaming motorcycle driven by wings of liquid fire. From hell.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    If I'm bored tomorrow I'll update the 'noteworthy 2010 releases', instead of still having Darkthrone - TBA :P

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Bolt Thrower and Rotting Christ tonight. Guess whose rather excited.....

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky Tails, You're my realest friend.Registered User regular
    I live about two miles from one of the best metal clubs of all ever, so every once in a while me and a metric fuckton of friends will get together and party there until we all "smell like cigarettes and butthole by the end of the night" as one friend put it. And covered in bruises from all the fucking moshing. My friend's band is actually playing there on the 15th, so with any luck I might just go.

    Kochikens wrote: »
    oh man I saw an otter with a boner at the seattle one and this kid asked his dad, IS HE EATING A HOT DOG
    and I laughed forever
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  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Ugh, the samples from the upcoming Nevermore are really bad.

    Hmm, that sucks. I wasn't really looking forward to it or anything, but usually those guys put out something alright.

    We decide who is worthy of our works.
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  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker Registered User regular
    Seeing God Dethroned, Vader, and Overkill = Awesome

    Finding out there was an unexploded bomb two blocks away making my walk back to the train station long, panicky and sweaty and just barely making my train = Slightly less awesome

    My color is black to the blind
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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User
    Mgcw wrote: »
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Ugh, the samples from the upcoming Nevermore are really bad.

    Hmm, that sucks. I wasn't really looking forward to it or anything, but usually those guys put out something alright.
    Yeah, I was slightly intrigued to see it comes out this month, but the teaser mix totally turned me off. Maybe they just highlighted the worst parts :P

    Futt, just think of it as all the metal awesome kept the bomb from going off. Glad you're ok, though.

    Anyone check out the new Master? I love how Speckmann sounds like his tongue is numb half the time.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0RvrS6rO08


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  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    Not something I'd listen to over and over, definitely capable, though. The album cover is really fuckin' cool, that's for sure.
    Tav wrote: »
    Bolt Thrower and Rotting Christ tonight. Guess whose rather excited.....

    Whose rather excited indeed, I swear it's not mine!

    We decide who is worthy of our works.
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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    Mgcw wrote: »
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Ugh, the samples from the upcoming Nevermore are really bad.

    Hmm, that sucks. I wasn't really looking forward to it or anything, but usually those guys put out something alright.

    This makes me angry. I was really looking forward to a new Nevermore album. I'll have to track this down and check it out myself. I'll be pissed off the rest of the year if the album sucks.

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  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    I saw from the tracklisting that Nevermore is doing a cover of The Tea Party's song "Temptation". I mean, the Melechesh cover of "Gyroscope" is alright and all, but do we really need a Nevermore version of a different song? Warrel's voice is already pretty close to the guy's in that song. I don't know, I never really understood cover songs or "bonus tracks".

    We decide who is worthy of our works.
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  • Crazy LarryCrazy Larry Registered User regular
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    Mgcw wrote: »
    METAzraeL wrote: »
    Ugh, the samples from the upcoming Nevermore are really bad.

    Hmm, that sucks. I wasn't really looking forward to it or anything, but usually those guys put out something alright.

    This makes me angry. I was really looking forward to a new Nevermore album. I'll have to track this down and check it out myself. I'll be pissed off the rest of the year if the album sucks.

    All I've heard is the instrumental version of the title track and it sounds pretty good, so I don't know what you guys are talking about.

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgeUKIKxbOo

    It might just be the juxtaposition of the tracks, but each part feels really hollow and unappealing.

    whoa, what, this is official?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEzuxkkGyWQ


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  • Crazy LarryCrazy Larry Registered User regular
    Okay, that admittedly does sound a little lackluster. I'm going to chalk it up to poor choice of samples and the way they run together. The full length version of the title track (sans vocals) sounds just fine, although I wouldn't say it's among there best work.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQqsVE0ZK7A

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  • MorgensternMorgenstern Registered User regular
    I like the new Barren Earth.

    Fuck you and your mothers.

    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    BT brought out the bro brigade and the entire crowd was full of drunken idiots who were hell bent on stage diving every two fucking seconds. I was so disappointed that the atmosphere turned to shit for BT because the four bands before hand made it one of the best gigs I've ever been to. Two of the local supports were absolutely fantastic (For Ruin and Morphosis), and the other band (Overoth) were fun to nod along to. I probably would of enjoyed Overoth more if I hadn't seen them play a shit set in a dive bar last week. Rotting Christ were fantastic and brought the crowd alive. Nemhteanga from Primordial came out and did two songs with them too, which really raised the roof.

    Pics to follow...

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    So does Nemtheanga just go to every metal gig in Ireland or what

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Unless they bring Phil Lynott back from the dead, he's the most well known personality in Irish metal... He's pretty much guaranteed to get any crowd going.

    So that's a yes.

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User
    Huh, For Ruin are still around? I remember their first two ep's, didn't know they kept going after that.


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    sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
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  • BlakoutBlakout Registered User regular
    Watched Protest the Hero tonight. Luke was having technical problems for most of the night, but the setlist was awesome and everyone just seemed like they were having a ton of fun. They played a lot more from Kezia than I expected which was a great surprise.

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    New Amestigon album, with Silenius vocals. Some of the songs are decent, the rest dull.

    As the last god on Earth, I ask for a whiskey. The floodwave took it all, life up here is risky. What can I tell you, the giants pulled us under. A sky-high tsunami, black walls of thunder. .
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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Blakout wrote: »
    Watched Protest the Hero tonight. Luke was having technical problems for most of the night, but the setlist was awesome and everyone just seemed like they were having a ton of fun. They played a lot more from Kezia than I expected which was a great surprise.

    Dick

    when I saw them they only played stuff off Fortress

    :(

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    New thread smell.
    Spoiler:

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  • BlakoutBlakout Registered User regular
    Tav wrote: »
    Blakout wrote: »
    Watched Protest the Hero tonight. Luke was having technical problems for most of the night, but the setlist was awesome and everyone just seemed like they were having a ton of fun. They played a lot more from Kezia than I expected which was a great surprise.

    Dick

    when I saw them they only played stuff off Fortress

    :(

    Which is what I was expecting. Instead I got abou half of Fortress plus Blindfolds Aside, Bury the Hatchet, Turn Soonest to the Sea, and Heretics and Killers. Really the only thing I was hoping for and didn't get was The Divine Suicide of K.

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  • MorgensternMorgenstern Registered User regular
    Review for the Barren Earth debut is almost done.

    9/10 for sure.

    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    Oh yeah, better than the EP? I didn't care for it.

    As the last god on Earth, I ask for a whiskey. The floodwave took it all, life up here is risky. What can I tell you, the giants pulled us under. A sky-high tsunami, black walls of thunder. .
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  • Crazy LarryCrazy Larry Registered User regular
    I'm not sure I'd give it a 9/10, but I think the new Barren Earth is pretty good too.

    Anyway, I need some recommendations for good Doom Metal. Never really gotten into it, and I'm not really familiar with any bands that fit into that genre besides Electric Wizard, Candlemass, and Cathedral.

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  • MorgensternMorgenstern Registered User regular
    autothrall wrote: »
    Oh yeah, better than the EP? I didn't care for it.

    I think it's the equivalent to if Opeth released an album after Blackwater Park that didn't veer off in the direction of sub-par output.

    I'm definitely not saying it's as good as Blackwater Park, but at least it's got a set of qualities of a similiar vein.

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  • AdrenalineAdrenaline Registered User regular
    Crazy Larry wrote: »
    I'm not sure I'd give it a 9/10, but I think the new Barren Earth is pretty good too.

    Anyway, I need some recommendations for good Doom Metal. Never really gotten into it, and I'm not really familiar with any bands that fit into that genre besides Electric Wizard, Candlemass, and Cathedral.
    Evoken, Ahab - The Call of the Wretched Sea, early Tiamat, Paradise Lost, Saint Vitus, Trouble, and of course Sleep

    I will show you fear in a handful of dust
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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    Crazy Larry wrote: »
    I'm not sure I'd give it a 9/10, but I think the new Barren Earth is pretty good too.

    Anyway, I need some recommendations for good Doom Metal. Never really gotten into it, and I'm not really familiar with any bands that fit into that genre besides Electric Wizard, Candlemass, and Cathedral.

    Here are a couple classic bands for you:

    Trouble (everything up to and including Manic Frustration)
    Pentagram (USA, first three albums)
    Cirith Ungol
    Count Raven (almost all of them)
    St. Vitus (ditto)
    Paradise Lost (Lost Paradise, Gothic and Icon)

    And some newer shite:

    The Wounded Kings!
    Hooded Menace (great death/doom)
    Reverend Bizarre
    Isole
    Burning Witch

    As the last god on Earth, I ask for a whiskey. The floodwave took it all, life up here is risky. What can I tell you, the giants pulled us under. A sky-high tsunami, black walls of thunder. .
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  • MorgensternMorgenstern Registered User regular
    Also, lump Altars of Oblivion into the newer shite category.

    “Every time we walk along a beach some ancient urge disturbs us so that we find ourselves shedding shoes and garments or scavenging among seaweed and whitened timbers like the homesick refugees of a long war.” - Loren Eiseley
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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    I was researching the all-time highest selling 'extreme metal' albums, by which I mean metal harder than classic heavy metal/hard rock, and I was staggered by the top 2 results, not by the band, but the numbers.

    'The Black Album' - 15 million copies sold...
    'And Justice for All' - 8 million copies sold...
    'Master of Puppets' - 6 million copies sold...
    'Ride the Lightning' - 5 million copies sold...
    'Kill 'Em All' - 3 million copies sold...

    Hot damn.

    I won't even factor in the albums post-1991.

    By comparison...

    'Countdown to Extinction' - 2 million copies in the US alone, and Megadeth has some other platinum albums.
    'Screaming for Vengeance' by Judas Priest, 2 million copies in the US alone (they've got some others that are platinum also)
    'Vulgar Display of Power' - 2 million copies in the US, highest selling album by Pantera.
    'Number of the Beast', 'Powerslave', 'Piece of Mind', 'Somewhere in Time' - 1 million copies each in the US (probably 2 million each worldwide).
    'Reign in Blood' - somewhere between 500k and 1 million copies in the US.
    Anthrax has a couple gold albums.

    All before the download age. Interesting.

    I was going to tally in a few of the more popular metalcore bands of today, but to be fair it'd be skewed and crippled by downloading.

    As the last god on Earth, I ask for a whiskey. The floodwave took it all, life up here is risky. What can I tell you, the giants pulled us under. A sky-high tsunami, black walls of thunder. .
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  • NargorothRiPNargorothRiP Registered User
    wouldnt you include Type O Negative? I mean Bloody Kisses did 1 Million. After having searched can't see many others who have sold alot. Not to mention the first 4 Metallica prolly only broke the million mark post black album.

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    NargorothRiP wrote: »
    wouldnt you include Type O Negative? I mean Bloody Kisses did 1 Million. After having searched can't see many others who have sold alot.

    Certainly. So that must put Type O Negative at the highest selling gothic metal artist of all time!
    Not to mention the first 4 Metallica prolly only broke the million mark post black album.

    Incorrect.

    'And Justice for All' and 'Master of Puppets' both went platinum in 1988.
    'Ride the Lightning' went platinum in 1989.
    'Kill 'Em All' went platinum in 1991 BEFORE the 'Black Album' came out in the summer.

    And those were all THRASH METAL albums. No rock & roll lesbians or 'Whiskey in a Jar'.

    'Load' & 'Reload' combined have done about 9 million, considerably less than the 'Black Album'. Surprise, surprise, it seems most people DID have taste after all (though downloading did play a part in the late 90s).

    Yeah, they were always popular :D and once upon a time, for a damn good reason.

    I should look up Biohazard. Weren't they hot shit for awhile? Still one of my dumb guilty pleasures.

    As for death metal, the numbers are much lower. Cannibal Corpse seems to be the highest selling overall, probably a few million now, which makes sense, with some chart toppers also by Morbid Angel, Deicide, Obituary.

    Checking on black metal...must be Cradle of Filth, considering that almost all their albums have charted in the UK and the past 4 charted here in the US.

    As the last god on Earth, I ask for a whiskey. The floodwave took it all, life up here is risky. What can I tell you, the giants pulled us under. A sky-high tsunami, black walls of thunder. .
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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    Huh, that's all pretty interesting.

    I'm always amazed when I see numbers now and something like 5000 albums is enough to land you on the charts. That always baffles me. Has it always been that way, or has downloading affected record sales that badly?

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck Registered User regular
    Any suggestions on atmospheric, very minor-key folk-influenced metal? I have no bias against keyboard instruments.

    EDIT: I'm thinking the metal version of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHAOrjgIfbg

    DOUBLE EDIT: Although I probably prefer this version

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXOJwGO9sEg

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  • yakulyakul Registered User regular
    The numbers are surprisingly low to me

    Although I guess 1 percent of the population owning Kill Em All is significant

    15 Mil for what is probably the most popular heavy metal/rock album of the 90s? I wonder how many times Enter Sandman has been purchased on itunes

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User
    surrealitycheck wrote: »
    Any suggestions on atmospheric, very minor-key folk-influenced metal? I have no bias against keyboard instruments.
    Is the folk element the one you're concerned about? Lots of black metal uses minor key (although not constantly), is atmospheric, and comes from folk roots. Or are you looking for something especially glum?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8mWH7reefQ


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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck Registered User regular
    Is the folk element the one you're concerned about? Lots of black metal uses minor key (although not constantly), is atmospheric, and comes from folk roots. Or are you looking for something especially glum?

    Looking for something a little less harsh and more melodic than most black metal, but if you can think of a black metal band that fits the bill throw it out there!

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  • autothrallautothrall Registered User regular
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    Huh, that's all pretty interesting.

    I'm always amazed when I see numbers now and something like 5000 albums is enough to land you on the charts. That always baffles me. Has it always been that way, or has downloading affected record sales that badly?

    Downloading has enormously affected sales, which is why you'll occasionally see a metalcore album, which doesn't sell all that much (Shadows Fall, Killswitch, etc) hit the top 10-20 on Billboard, if only for a week of solid sales in the 1000s or tens of 1000s.

    I believe the Metallica numbers were worldwide, Kiel. If Kill 'Em All were owned by 1% of all human beings on Earth, I would have my thrash planet victory.

    Then again, that doesn't account for downloads...so who knows :D

    As the last god on Earth, I ask for a whiskey. The floodwave took it all, life up here is risky. What can I tell you, the giants pulled us under. A sky-high tsunami, black walls of thunder. .
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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User
    surrealitycheck wrote: »
    Is the folk element the one you're concerned about? Lots of black metal uses minor key (although not constantly), is atmospheric, and comes from folk roots. Or are you looking for something especially glum?

    Looking for something a little less harsh and more melodic than most black metal, but if you can think of a black metal band that fits the bill throw it out there!
    Well crap, if Lifelover doesn't do that for you, I dunno.


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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    surrealitycheck wrote: »
    Is the folk element the one you're concerned about? Lots of black metal uses minor key (although not constantly), is atmospheric, and comes from folk roots. Or are you looking for something especially glum?

    Looking for something a little less harsh and more melodic than most black metal, but if you can think of a black metal band that fits the bill throw it out there!

    I know they get a lot of flak around here, but maybe Agalloch? The first two Evereve albums maybe?

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