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How does college transfers work?

EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
edited September 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Well I just moved and from my understanding I could have transfer into USF instead of the local college without having an AA provided thet accept me with my bad grades. Now from my understanding if you transfer with an AA once accepted its like a fresh start as your gpa is restored to a default. So what if I transfer to usf stay a year then I could transfer to ohio state without having to throw away all my credits?

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  • Susan DelgadoSusan Delgado Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This was my experience when I switched colleges...

    All my credits transferred...HOWEVER, the classes didn't correspond directly to what was offered at my new school so while they counted one of my elective/multicultural studies class towards my total credit hour count, it did not count as a multicultural course requirement.

    Talk to an adviser about what will and won't transfer at the school you want to attend :)

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    but what happens when you transfer with a completed AA?

    I don't talk to advisors anymore since they told me to stop going to college.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm not sure what an AA is, but I'll assume it's a bad thing.

    Generally speaking, when you transfer your old courses appear on your transcript with letter grades but they do not count towards your GPA. As Susan said, you might have a few courses that because of differing curriculums you either won't get credit for at all or will get credit in a different department.

    I'd find a different advisor who isn't full of shit. What would worry me about your plan is the Ohio State admissions officer going "hey, why is this guy transferring twice? He's not trying to hide anything, is he... ?"

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    AA is a two year degree in liberal arts and does not require class eval within the state

    Should I start trying to transfer to usf as soon as possible? Does applying many times hurt me

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    I pretty much got told that the three main colleges in FL would not accept me.

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  • Susan DelgadoSusan Delgado Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This is why you talk to an admissions adviser at Ohio State to find out if all of your credits from your associate's degree will transfer or if their curriculum is such that you'll have to basically "retake" some of your classes.
    As far as I know, you will most likely start with a clean slate GPA wise, although Ohio State may have GPA requirements for transfer students, even those that already have a degree or certificate.

    If you talked to an adviser that said you should stop going to school, talk to a different adviser. They are there to help you make the best decisions and get the best education for your buck and they can give you the best information about what you can and can't do. :)

    Edit: Also, you should be talking to the admissions advisers at the schools you want to go to, not necessarily the one you went to.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    I pretty much got told that the three main colleges in FL would not accept me.

    What are your SAT/ACT scores, what was your GPA coming out of high school, and what was your GPA getting your AA?
    Florida schools are fucking HUGE and to not take a resident of the state is pretty fucking rare.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Okay... first, the longer you spend taking classes at a University other then the one you intend to graduate from, the higher the chance of you taking wasted credits. This is doubly true when transferring from a different state.

    Second, no offense, but if you are planning on getting a four year degree, your associates really isn't going to mean much, and you should not make getting it a priority over starting at a four year institution. Again, this is doubly true when you plan on transferring out of state.

    And lastly, OSU is still on the quarter system for at least one more year, and as far as I know, Florida is using semesters, so the more time you spend in Florida, the more jacked up your transfer evaluation is going to be.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    but what happens when you transfer with a completed AA?

    I don't talk to advisors anymore since they told me to stop going to college.

    This it much different than applying as a general transfer. In addition to talking to the advisers at Ohio check out their admissions page for transfer students.

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  • theclamtheclam Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I transferred several times, although I never earned an AA before transferring. My credits (earned at 4 year accredited colleges) transferred just fine, although in some cases, I got generic credits rather than anything very useful.

    Why do you want to go to USF and then OSU? If you want to get a good GPA at USF so you don't have to show OSU a bad GPA earned earlier, then you can do that. However, if you want them to weigh your AA in the admissions process, then you will have to give them the transcripts that earned you the AA. Generally, you can transfer in credits that you didn't report during the admissions process.

    However, there is no guarantee that you will get any credit for anything. You should definitely talk to an admissions advisor. You may need to contact advisors within several academic departments. At my school, there is a specific faculty or staff member in each department that reviews transfer credits.

    An AA is useless once you get a BA or BS, btw.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    I pretty much got told that the three main colleges in FL would not accept me.

    What are your SAT/ACT scores, what was your GPA coming out of high school, and what was your GPA getting your AA?
    Florida schools are fucking HUGE and to not take a resident of the state is pretty fucking rare.


    My high school gpa was 3.2 but once again I have many Fls. My college gpa is 2.2 with many F's. I meet the reqiurements to transfer to osu and any fl school right now

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    Not like they will take me when they see I took english 3 times. Along with matt1033

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    3.2 is good, and the right letter/interview can explain away the 2.2 an ensure them that you have changed as a student. Applying doesn't hurt but it does cost money.
    I say get your shit together and go for it.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Improv is right.

    Nothing you've earned is that terrible that it will prevent you from getting into OSU. Write a good letter explaining how you fucked up and why it won't happen again.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    If your grades don't help you jump out amongst the applications, make sure your essays are fucking awesome. I got into a FL University with a not very good high school gpa (2.8 maybe, I forget its been so long). My SAT scores were quite high especially for my GPA and I was ridiculously happy with my essays. They were different, they stood out, they made me seem like a unique student who could add to the University.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    If your grades don't help you jump out amongst the applications, make sure your essays are fucking awesome. I got into a FL University with a not very good high school gpa (2.8 maybe, I forget its been so long). My SAT scores were quite high especially for my GPA and I was ridiculously happy with my essays. They were different, they stood out, they made me seem like a unique student who could add to the University.

    Ah. Im on a computer now instead of my mobile phone. Anyways may I ask what FL school you went to?

    I just went back and some of the major schools now require a 3.0. I don't get why USF is higher than OSU..


    "you have earned at least a 2.0 GPA (on a 4.0 scale) on your college course work, we will review your academic performance in college to determine your eligibility for admission."

    I am a little past 30 credits right now so I think I am going to retake my two of the classes that I have F's in this term. Then I guess I should not take anymore classes after that?

    Also, apparently they consider learning disabilities in their decsion to accept you. I don't know how much have documented ADHD and dylexia on file with my current college helps me really. Honestly, I never use the resources they give me because I hate to tell people. I suppose I don't mind milking it this one time if it helps.

    •you have demonstrated outstanding talent in a particular area
    •you have significant work experience
    •your academic performance may have been affected by physical, mental, or learning environment factors
    •you are eligible for organized support services at Ohio State

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    If your grades don't help you jump out amongst the applications, make sure your essays are fucking awesome. I got into a FL University with a not very good high school gpa (2.8 maybe, I forget its been so long). My SAT scores were quite high especially for my GPA and I was ridiculously happy with my essays. They were different, they stood out, they made me seem like a unique student who could add to the University.


    My last counsler said an eassay would be useless because my grades are so bad :(

    Then again I go to a school with a completion rate of 29 percent so does not have the best staff.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    I have never taken the SAT or ACT but I am VERY bad at math. Can one improve their SAT/ACT scores to high levels just by studying and taking the test many times?

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    the course was non-remedial, and you received a C- or better (in a few cases, a D or D+ may transfer;

    I have most my F's in remedial classes and since they don't transfer does that mean they don't exist?

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    The average GPA of an entering freshman at The Ohio State University was approximately 3.6 with an average SAT score of 1203 and an ACT score of around 26-28.
    Note: Grades and test scores will also be measured against other factors such as extracurricular activities, application, and other factors.



    You should probably have at least a 3.7 or higher to apply for this college, ohio state didnt even take a student living in the Columbus area with a 3.7 however my sister got accepted to ohio state with a 3.8 while living in the Cincinnati area.

    The GPA generally needed to get into OSU (Ohio State University) is 3.6 or higher. The minimum GPA to be accepted for admission for most programs is 3.0 for a new student and transfer student. This will vary depending on a persons test scores, extracurricular activities and a host of other factors.


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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Lets do this!!!!
    Listen to advisors at the school you want to go to. If they say, "look, your grades are so low it would be very very difficult for us to accept you...", listen to them and take it into consideration. This means it'll be harder not impossible.
    Take the SATs or ACTs. The SATs are all about reasoning, you don't really need to know anything beyond some trig (SOH CAH TOA, thats it) and some algebra. SAT prep classes and books can really really help add a few hundred points.
    I had a 1260/1600 on my SATs (this was before they added the essay section).
    I went to UCF.
    Your school might allow you to retake the classes you got poor grades in in order to replace the grade. Thus, bye bye Fs. This is what you need to talk to a current advisor about. You might need to stay another semester or two at a community college to bump your GPA and prove that you are serious about your education. If you do this, go to a community college within your University of choice's state, the odds of credits transferring are much greater.

    UCF Freshman Profile
    Total Enrollment: 52,000
    FTIC Applications: 25,000
    FTIC Admits: 11,000
    FTIC Enrolled: 3,850
    Average SAT: 1225/2400
    Average ACT: 27
    Average H.S. GPA: 3.8
    National Merit Scholars: 55
    Ethnic Minority Enrollment: 29%
    Yea, my GPA was significantly lower, but my SAT score put me in the ~80 percentile and the average freshman is in the ~17 percentile.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    See I thought "Grade foregivness" replaces the F's but it does not. I already took the remedial classes over again that I had F's in. The new grades did not just replace them. I mean they did but it still shows that I had an F that term.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Right, it shows you got an F but it changes it on your GPA. So the F is still there but it doesn't count.
    Which one can argue makes you seem like you are trying to fix your fuck ups and take this seriously.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    Discounting the prep classes I don't think I did super bad..
    CGS1000 A
    ENC1101 - B
    WOH - B
    AMH1 - B+
    AMH2 B
    College Sucess B+
    BIO - C+
    SCI C
    HUM C+
    SOC C+
    CRIT D+ <
    BS FORCED PREP CREDITED CLASS

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    Right, it shows you got an F but it changes it on your GPA. So the F is still there but it doesn't count.
    Which one can argue makes you seem like you are trying to fix your fuck ups and take this seriously.

    But the F never counted for GPA anyways. I just cant grasp why non credited classes are stuck on my transcript.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Because its a transcript and shows everything you've done class wise.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, you'll generally get the feeling that you're a redheaded step child when you transfer into a big name university.

    Sadly, it appears Ohio State University is too good to have basic transfer information open for the public to read, and instead they're forcing you to apply for an account just to see what their transfer requirements are.

    Screw that! Man, don't give up! I've seen people who never attended High School (and they weren't being home schooled) and quite literally went from being drug junkies to graduating in the top 10% of their class at the toughest university in this state.

    Also, when you transfer your GPA does kinda reset. I say kinda, because a lot of the more prestigious colleges will want to see your educational history, and if you're going on to Grad school they will look through your entire educational history.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    I already have an account with OSU and I know the requirements to get in. Last time I checked I do meet the requirements of having a 2.0gpa in general and 3.0 for within my major.

    Also, I have been reading sites and they say students with documented LD's have slots at some schools open for them. I have no idea how many and if OSU takes my LD into consenderation for oh say F's upon F's.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, you'll generally get the feeling that you're a redheaded step child when you transfer into a big name university.

    Sadly, it appears Ohio State University is too good to have basic transfer information open for the public to read, and instead they're forcing you to apply for an account just to see what their transfer requirements are.

    Screw that! Man, don't give up! I've seen people who never attended High School (and they weren't being home schooled) and quite literally went from being drug junkies to graduating in the top 10% of their class at the toughest university in this state.

    Also, when you transfer your GPA does kinda reset. I say kinda, because a lot of the more prestigious colleges will want to see your educational history, and if you're going on to Grad school they will look through your entire educational history.

    I don't know what you're talking about. It took me less than 5 minutes to find their transfer admissions website for undergrads with all the basic reqs.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, you'll generally get the feeling that you're a redheaded step child when you transfer into a big name university.

    Sadly, it appears Ohio State University is too good to have basic transfer information open for the public to read, and instead they're forcing you to apply for an account just to see what their transfer requirements are.

    Screw that! Man, don't give up! I've seen people who never attended High School (and they weren't being home schooled) and quite literally went from being drug junkies to graduating in the top 10% of their class at the toughest university in this state.

    Also, when you transfer your GPA does kinda reset. I say kinda, because a lot of the more prestigious colleges will want to see your educational history, and if you're going on to Grad school they will look through your entire educational history.

    I don't know what you're talking about. It took me less than 5 minutes to find their transfer admissions website for undergrads with all the basic reqs.

    Yeah, after I wrote that chugged down my coffee, I finally have enough caffeine to google-fu correctly. Though, I have to admit that Universities generally haves the worst thought out websites in existence. Well, let me read through this and see what I find.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Okay, I hate to spam this thread but oh well...

    What are you planning to major in? Sadly, after reading their website and looking at your past performance, you really have an uphill battle ahead of you. I'm not sure how much credit you have, but assuming that you having a AA means that you have around 60 credit hours then your admittance will be base on a competitive nature. With a 2.2, you're really at a disadvantage here.

    But, there are other ways into a college. Look to see if there's a special program that you fit in that could make it easier for you to get it. For example, a 'Minority Engineering Society'. Talk to them and see if they can help you out. I'm not guaranteeing miracles, but having a foot in the door is a lot better then having the door shut in your face.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    Okay, I hate to spam this thread but oh well...

    What are you planning to major in? Sadly, after reading their website and looking at your past performance, you really have an uphill battle ahead of you. I'm not sure how much credit you have, but assuming that you having a AA means that you have around 60 credit hours then your admittance will be base on a competitive nature. With a 2.2, you're really at a disadvantage here.

    But, there are other ways into a college. Look to see if there's a special program that you fit in that could make it easier for you to get it. For example, a 'Minority Engineering Society'. Talk to them and see if they can help you out. I'm not guaranteeing miracles, but having a foot in the door is a lot better then having the door shut in your face.

    No, I don't have an AA. I am halfway to an AA and after I get these two F's from english and math off of my record my GPA should go up quite a bit I assume. If I finish my AA that leaves me with ALL electives left so I can take computer classes and get A's the rest of the way for the most part. With 24 credits left whats the highest I can bring my GPA up? I think its 3.4.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Are you at a small college in FL looking to go to a FL University, or are you currently in Ohio?

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    Are you at a small college in FL looking to go to a FL University, or are you currently in Ohio?

    I am in FL community college looking to go to OSU. I live in gainesville, FL.

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