I'm really sad that I decided to just buy the game instead of trying the demo. Really not enjoying the controls or the graphics or the fact that the levels seem absolutely massive.
The special stages are a nice change though.
This is just curiosity, not 'lawl you are wrong for not enjoying the same things', but why are massive levels a problem?
He could be referring to the problem I tend to have with the 2D Sonic games which is never having a clue where you are or where you're going. A Mario level tends be fairly simple, start at the left, keep heading right, there is the end. A Sonic level can switch back and loop and present things in a more confusing manner. I've only tried the demo of 4 and that was a simple case of keeping heading right, but in Sonic 3 I remember a few instances of finding out I've been back tracking up an alternate route for a while rather than progressing forwards.
It's not a general knock on the game, just my personal feelings. Even in the Sonic 4 demo level, the world whooshes by so fast that I don't feel in control of my route choice, I'm just bundling along from massive jump to speedy tube, hoping I'm making progress on reaching the end of the level.
To be fair I'm not knocking this game. I'm explaining why I'm not mad keen on the Sonics in general as I thought it might provide an answer to a specifically asked question.
Downloaded the demo and my son has played through the level at least 5 times. I think on Monday I'll buy a few points to get this and some Rock Band stuff. The only complaint I have is the stiff walk animation - otherwise it's fun. But truthfully, I've liked some of the 3d games too - Secret Rings, Heroes, and Unleashed were all decent to me - so maybe I'm a bit too forgiving.
Tried the demo, blehhhh. Sonic's inertia feels totally wrong, and his lower-speed running animations look really stiff. It feels like they screwed up the most fundamental parts of the gameplay.
I finally like a Sonic game that's supposed to be Sonic's return to form, and so many are knocking it
I wonder what other "bad" Sonic games I'd actually find awesome
This almost makes me wanna try Sonic 2006
EDIT: Hell, I'm sure there's a demo on Live, right?
Don't play 2k6 it really is that awful
From what I remember though Sonic heroes gameplay was actually pretty decent though the camera, story and voice acting are among the most grating around
Tried the demo, blehhhh. Sonic's inertia feels totally wrong, and his lower-speed running animations look really stiff. It feels like they screwed up the most fundamental parts of the gameplay.
I love how every page either has someone disliking the game because it's identical to older games, or because it's too different from the older games.
I wish I could send some sort of postcard to Sega's community department.
Hey guys, so I am on the fence about getting this after playing the demo. Bear in mind I don't know much about Sonic and the last one I played was Sonic and Knuckles when I was much younger, so you could call me a blank slate with respect to the series. Nostalgia is not going to be something I care about.
On one hand, I never had a Genesis as a kid so I'm not like, the world's biggest Sonic fan, but I do like a solid platformer. The demo seemed pretty cool, but it didn't feel like I was really doing that much. Just running forward and occasionally doing that double tap A to win attack.
Does this game get to be a little more involved? I felt like the game was sort of playing itself, but it's only the first level.
Hey guys, so I am on the fence about getting this after playing the demo. Bear in mind I don't know much about Sonic and the last one I played was Sonic and Knuckles when I was much younger, so you could call me a blank slate with respect to the series. Nostalgia is not going to be something I care about.
On one hand, I never had a Genesis as a kid so I'm not like, the world's biggest Sonic fan, but I do like a solid platformer. The demo seemed pretty cool, but it didn't feel like I was really doing that much. Just running forward and occasionally doing that double tap A to win attack.
Does this game get to be a little more involved? I felt like the game was sort of playing itself, but it's only the first level.
Yes, it gets much more involved.
In fact one complaint about the game from some older Sonic fans is that it's too technical/platformer-y.
Hey guys, so I am on the fence about getting this after playing the demo. Bear in mind I don't know much about Sonic and the last one I played was Sonic and Knuckles when I was much younger, so you could call me a blank slate with respect to the series. Nostalgia is not going to be something I care about.
On one hand, I never had a Genesis as a kid so I'm not like, the world's biggest Sonic fan, but I do like a solid platformer. The demo seemed pretty cool, but it didn't feel like I was really doing that much. Just running forward and occasionally doing that double tap A to win attack.
Does this game get to be a little more involved? I felt like the game was sort of playing itself, but it's only the first level.
Yes, it gets much more involved.
In fact one complaint about the game from some older Sonic fans is that it's too technical/platformer-y.
Which in and of itself is hilarious.. sonic could get pretty damn platformy and technical when it wanted.
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I finally caved on this and bought the full game. The comments (not reviews) I've been seeing everywhere but here have been resoundingly negative, with a hell of a lot of "What did you expect from Sonic?" lingering throughout them all.
I'm baffled. It really feels like a fun return to form to me. Even if it feels a little different than 'classic' Sonic in terms of momentum, it's still really refreshing to play this game. I'm about halfway through the Mad Gear zone right now, and I've not had any complaints so far. I'm wondering if I'm just nostalgia-blind, but overall I'm enjoying everything - Even the special levels (which I suck at).
I hated the game with all my heart, but now I kinda want to gamefly and finish it.
Holy garbage, man, don't do it. If you really want the Sonic 2k6 experience, just watch the LP done by Pokecapn and company. At least then the suffering is tinged with a little bit of humor.
I've played the demo, and honestly, even if this was any other game and not labeled as Sonic, I would still have a problem with the wonky physics and momentum, but the fact that they are so obviously drilling into your head that "this is the same sonic you played all those years ago," it is really just off-putting.
It's like they ignored WHAT made the gameplay of those old Sonic games so good and just focused on the presentation.
I like it, but even though there's a good amount of replayability in this $10 for a third/fifth of a game seems kinda... cheap. Especially if you were to get all 7 emeralds in this first episode and then they don't carry to the second? What the fuck.
The walking animation is way too slow and rigid like people have said and the fluidity of his jumps his off too. But it makes it challenging and makes me think my moves in advance.
It definitely feels off: I kept repeatedly dying because I was missing platforms on a jump, because Sonic slows down too fast in the air. It also feels a bit set-piecey. But, on the whole, put me down in the "it's different, but still good" camp: the homing attack adds a very satisfying rhythm to the game.
I like it, but even though there's a good amount of replayability in this $10 for a third/fifth of a game seems kinda... cheap. Especially if you were to get all 7 emeralds in this first episode and then they don't carry to the second? What the fuck.
The walking animation is way too slow and rigid like people have said and the fluidity of his jumps his off too. But it makes it challenging and makes me think my moves in advance.
Fun return to this style, though.
I'd like it if they did a Sonic 3 & Knuckles, and made it so that if you got all 7 emeralds in Episode 1, you'd be going for the Super Emeralds in Episode 2 instead, and get Hyper Sonic. Not entirely sure what extra features he'd have, though, given that Super Sonic has gained Hyper's ability to breathe underwater; maybe add the screen clear attack from S3&K, but put it on the non-jump buttons to allow you to continue using homing attacks?
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I finally caved on this and bought the full game. The comments (not reviews) I've been seeing everywhere but here have been resoundingly negative, with a hell of a lot of "What did you expect from Sonic?" lingering throughout them all.
I'm baffled. It really feels like a fun return to form to me. Even if it feels a little different than 'classic' Sonic in terms of momentum, it's still really refreshing to play this game. I'm about halfway through the Mad Gear zone right now, and I've not had any complaints so far. I'm wondering if I'm just nostalgia-blind, but overall I'm enjoying everything - Even the special levels (which I suck at).
I hated the game with all my heart, but now I kinda want to gamefly and finish it.
Holy garbage, man, don't do it. If you really want the Sonic 2k6 experience, just watch the LP done by Pokecapn and company. At least then the suffering is tinged with a little bit of humor.
Basically and I'll repeat this hundreds of more times sonic fans have no idea what they want all they know is even if it's exactly what they want it isn't what they want. I'd ignore anything but reviews who detail any issues they have in a clear manner. Comments and forum posts generally aren't even remotely accurate.
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Hey guys, so I am on the fence about getting this after playing the demo. Bear in mind I don't know much about Sonic and the last one I played was Sonic and Knuckles when I was much younger, so you could call me a blank slate with respect to the series. Nostalgia is not going to be something I care about.
On one hand, I never had a Genesis as a kid so I'm not like, the world's biggest Sonic fan, but I do like a solid platformer. The demo seemed pretty cool, but it didn't feel like I was really doing that much. Just running forward and occasionally doing that double tap A to win attack.
Does this game get to be a little more involved? I felt like the game was sort of playing itself, but it's only the first level.
Yes, it gets much more involved.
In fact one complaint about the game from some older Sonic fans is that it's too technical/platformer-y.
Which in and of itself is hilarious.. sonic could get pretty damn platformy and technical when it wanted.
Just look at Sonic 3. No way in hell you'd find more than 2 Emeralds if you weren't trying to explore, which often meant not speeding through the levels, and actually platforming.
I think it's a good return to form, with only a couple of niggles so far after getting up to Lost Labyrinth.
My background with Sonic is being a kid who grew up with all the Megadrive and Master System titles and played the hell out of them and back. Sonic 4 really does remind me of a lot of those older games, with the right amount of platforming and tricky bits to hold you up. Getting good flashbacks on Labyrinth to Sandopolis from S&K and the special stages are tough but not annoyingly so.
My only real gripe is that Sonic isn't as floaty in the air. Hitting the opposite direction mid-jump makes you lose inertia really fast which didn't feel intuitive at first but you get used to it. Also that running up walls and not rolling is more effective. You can't build up massive speed in a ball like you used to, which is a shame but again you get used to it. I think players are forgetting what the older Sonics were really like in terms of level design and boss fights. If this had been released as a Megadrive game right after S&K I don't think we'd see this dismissal of the title. Back then developers just made the game, released it and by jove you had to like it. Nowadays people seem to have more of a sense of entitlement and a big ol' internet to hear other people bitching on. I'd have loved this title as a kid... heck, I love it now.
Hey guys, so I am on the fence about getting this after playing the demo. Bear in mind I don't know much about Sonic and the last one I played was Sonic and Knuckles when I was much younger, so you could call me a blank slate with respect to the series. Nostalgia is not going to be something I care about.
On one hand, I never had a Genesis as a kid so I'm not like, the world's biggest Sonic fan, but I do like a solid platformer. The demo seemed pretty cool, but it didn't feel like I was really doing that much. Just running forward and occasionally doing that double tap A to win attack.
Does this game get to be a little more involved? I felt like the game was sort of playing itself, but it's only the first level.
Yes, it gets much more involved.
In fact one complaint about the game from some older Sonic fans is that it's too technical/platformer-y.
Which in and of itself is hilarious.. sonic could get pretty damn platformy and technical when it wanted.
Just look at Sonic 3. No way in hell you'd find more than 2 Emeralds if you weren't trying to explore, which often meant not speeding through the levels, and actually platforming.
I was honestly surprised at the amount of platforming in Sonic 4. I was afraid Dimps was going to a bunch of running sections.
Marble Zone is my favorite zone in the entire damn series just because it's pure platforming.
Hey guys, so I am on the fence about getting this after playing the demo. Bear in mind I don't know much about Sonic and the last one I played was Sonic and Knuckles when I was much younger, so you could call me a blank slate with respect to the series. Nostalgia is not going to be something I care about.
On one hand, I never had a Genesis as a kid so I'm not like, the world's biggest Sonic fan, but I do like a solid platformer. The demo seemed pretty cool, but it didn't feel like I was really doing that much. Just running forward and occasionally doing that double tap A to win attack.
Does this game get to be a little more involved? I felt like the game was sort of playing itself, but it's only the first level.
Yes, it gets much more involved.
In fact one complaint about the game from some older Sonic fans is that it's too technical/platformer-y.
Which in and of itself is hilarious.. sonic could get pretty damn platformy and technical when it wanted.
Just look at Sonic 3. No way in hell you'd find more than 2 Emeralds if you weren't trying to explore, which often meant not speeding through the levels, and actually platforming.
I was honestly surprised at the amount of platforming in Sonic 4. I was afraid Dimps was going to a bunch of running sections.
Marble Zone is my favorite zone in the entire damn series just because it's pure platforming.
I haven't even played Sonic 4 yet, but I'm pleased to hear that theres a nice bit of platforming. Hated Rush because it basically consisted of hold right and jump. Very little platforming.
Shaved some tenths off my Splash Hill 1 time; now down to 37"77, which is around 6th place on the PS3. Think I'll need a minor route change to go any faster.
It's like Green Hill 1 all over again, only this time, I'm actually competent.
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Having played the demo the momentum does feel a bit off - Sonic comes to a complete stop very quickly while you're rolling. That said it does still feel like a really close approximation of the Genesis titles, and I'll be buying it as soon as I find a way to pay for it.
Tried the demo, blehhhh. Sonic's inertia feels totally wrong, and his lower-speed running animations look really stiff. It feels like they screwed up the most fundamental parts of the gameplay.
I love how every page either has someone disliking the game because it's identical to older games, or because it's too different from the older games.
I wish I could send some sort of postcard to Sega's community department.
I don't dislike it just because it's different from the previous games, I dislike it because it's bad when judged by its own merits.
Tried the demo, blehhhh. Sonic's inertia feels totally wrong, and his lower-speed running animations look really stiff. It feels like they screwed up the most fundamental parts of the gameplay.
I love how every page either has someone disliking the game because it's identical to older games, or because it's too different from the older games.
I wish I could send some sort of postcard to Sega's community department.
I don't dislike it just because it's different from the previous games, I dislike it because it's bad when judged by its own merits.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
This is awful.
I can't say I was ever excited to play Sonic 4, but I didn't think it would be this bad.
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Tried the demo, blehhhh. Sonic's inertia feels totally wrong, and his lower-speed running animations look really stiff. It feels like they screwed up the most fundamental parts of the gameplay.
I love how every page either has someone disliking the game because it's identical to older games, or because it's too different from the older games.
I wish I could send some sort of postcard to Sega's community department.
I don't dislike it just because it's different from the previous games, I dislike it because it's bad when judged by its own merits.
You have every right not to like it.
I just find it funny that someone will probably pop up in a page or two and say that the game sucks because it's too similar to the Genesis games.
He doesn't show how it's a bad game, he just shows how it's different from the originals - I knew all that already. And then goes on to say that anyone who likes the game is an idiot. What a class act.
He doesn't show how it's a bad game, he just shows how it's different from the originals - I knew all that already. And then goes on to say that anyone who likes the game is an idiot. What a class act.
What baffles me is he says that he "Won't be buying it."
But wait...you're playing it with a Wii Remote. The Wii doesn't offer downloadable demos.
He doesn't show how it's a bad game, he just shows how it's different from the originals - I knew all that already. And then goes on to say that anyone who likes the game is an idiot. What a class act.
I don't entirely agree with that (the whole "you're dumb" thing), yeah, but it's worth considering. If you were to break down earlier Sonic games, (like you would an essay) and examine them, they hold up really well. But Sonic 4 lacks the cohesion of the earlier, good, Sonic games. So, taken as a sequel, Sonic 4 exists more as an amputated version of earlier iterations, as it lacks the mechanics that made Sonic 1, 2, and 3 interesting. It's essentially empty.
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I was wondering why I had such a hard time controlling Sonic in the demo. The freaking physics in Sonic 4 is way retarded...
I played the demo through a couple times and I didn't notice any control problems. Sonic starts up slow (unless you just do a homing attack thing) but I didn't notice anything else. Is this a transition thing from older games maybe?
He doesn't show how it's a bad game, he just shows how it's different from the originals - I knew all that already. And then goes on to say that anyone who likes the game is an idiot. What a class act.
I don't entirely agree with that (the whole "you're dumb" thing), yeah, but it's worth considering. If you were to break down earlier Sonic games, (like you would an essay) and examine them, they hold up really well. But Sonic 4 lacks the cohesion of the earlier, good, Sonic games. So, taken as a sequel, Sonic 4 exists more as an amputated version of earlier iterations, as it lacks the mechanics that made Sonic 1, 2, and 3 interesting. It's essentially empty.
I find the physics of Sonic 4 make it a much more 'manual' game. In the originals once you got going at a good speed you could just ball up, and you'd be safe from pretty much anything, any enemies in your path would be taken out without you having to know they're there. Now you're much more vulnerable because you have to be up and running to maintain speed - same with the uncurling off ramps, you have to watch out when you come off them now.
And don't get me wrong - I certainly prefer the old games, physics and all. But I think there's a lot there with this new game, and there's a lot to like.
And the game doesn't consist of toodling around on ledges and stuff, it looks like this:
He doesn't show how it's a bad game, he just shows how it's different from the originals - I knew all that already. And then goes on to say that anyone who likes the game is an idiot. What a class act.
I don't entirely agree with that (the whole "you're dumb" thing), yeah, but it's worth considering. If you were to break down earlier Sonic games, (like you would an essay) and examine them, they hold up really well. But Sonic 4 lacks the cohesion of the earlier, good, Sonic games. So, taken as a sequel, Sonic 4 exists more as an amputated version of earlier iterations, as it lacks the mechanics that made Sonic 1, 2, and 3 interesting. It's essentially empty.
Odd, because I did just that and still found Sonic 4 to be a competent game that fit in well with the rest of the series; beat out 3 in my eyes, anyways.
Folks having control issues prolly didn't play the Advance/DS games. Even still, DIMPS made quite a few changes to the engine here. Too bad they didn't do the classic roll physics
Just gotta hope Sega pumps out the episodes quickly.
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He could be referring to the problem I tend to have with the 2D Sonic games which is never having a clue where you are or where you're going. A Mario level tends be fairly simple, start at the left, keep heading right, there is the end. A Sonic level can switch back and loop and present things in a more confusing manner. I've only tried the demo of 4 and that was a simple case of keeping heading right, but in Sonic 3 I remember a few instances of finding out I've been back tracking up an alternate route for a while rather than progressing forwards.
It's not a general knock on the game, just my personal feelings. Even in the Sonic 4 demo level, the world whooshes by so fast that I don't feel in control of my route choice, I'm just bundling along from massive jump to speedy tube, hoping I'm making progress on reaching the end of the level.
I wonder what other "bad" Sonic games I'd actually find awesome
This almost makes me wanna try Sonic 2006
EDIT: Hell, I'm sure there's a demo on Live, right?
Just surprised at the reaction in general
I hated the game with all my heart, but now I kinda want to gamefly and finish it.
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Feels quite short though, though I don't feel ripped off. Any news on Ep 2?
Don't play 2k6 it really is that awful
From what I remember though Sonic heroes gameplay was actually pretty decent though the camera, story and voice acting are among the most grating around
I love how every page either has someone disliking the game because it's identical to older games, or because it's too different from the older games.
I wish I could send some sort of postcard to Sega's community department.
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On one hand, I never had a Genesis as a kid so I'm not like, the world's biggest Sonic fan, but I do like a solid platformer. The demo seemed pretty cool, but it didn't feel like I was really doing that much. Just running forward and occasionally doing that double tap A to win attack.
Does this game get to be a little more involved? I felt like the game was sort of playing itself, but it's only the first level.
Yes, it gets much more involved.
In fact one complaint about the game from some older Sonic fans is that it's too technical/platformer-y.
Which in and of itself is hilarious.. sonic could get pretty damn platformy and technical when it wanted.
I'm baffled. It really feels like a fun return to form to me. Even if it feels a little different than 'classic' Sonic in terms of momentum, it's still really refreshing to play this game. I'm about halfway through the Mad Gear zone right now, and I've not had any complaints so far. I'm wondering if I'm just nostalgia-blind, but overall I'm enjoying everything - Even the special levels (which I suck at).
Holy garbage, man, don't do it. If you really want the Sonic 2k6 experience, just watch the LP done by Pokecapn and company. At least then the suffering is tinged with a little bit of humor.
It's like they ignored WHAT made the gameplay of those old Sonic games so good and just focused on the presentation.
The walking animation is way too slow and rigid like people have said and the fluidity of his jumps his off too. But it makes it challenging and makes me think my moves in advance.
Fun return to this style, though.
I'd like it if they did a Sonic 3 & Knuckles, and made it so that if you got all 7 emeralds in Episode 1, you'd be going for the Super Emeralds in Episode 2 instead, and get Hyper Sonic. Not entirely sure what extra features he'd have, though, given that Super Sonic has gained Hyper's ability to breathe underwater; maybe add the screen clear attack from S3&K, but put it on the non-jump buttons to allow you to continue using homing attacks?
Basically and I'll repeat this hundreds of more times sonic fans have no idea what they want all they know is even if it's exactly what they want it isn't what they want. I'd ignore anything but reviews who detail any issues they have in a clear manner. Comments and forum posts generally aren't even remotely accurate.
Just look at Sonic 3. No way in hell you'd find more than 2 Emeralds if you weren't trying to explore, which often meant not speeding through the levels, and actually platforming.
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My background with Sonic is being a kid who grew up with all the Megadrive and Master System titles and played the hell out of them and back. Sonic 4 really does remind me of a lot of those older games, with the right amount of platforming and tricky bits to hold you up. Getting good flashbacks on Labyrinth to Sandopolis from S&K and the special stages are tough but not annoyingly so.
My only real gripe is that Sonic isn't as floaty in the air. Hitting the opposite direction mid-jump makes you lose inertia really fast which didn't feel intuitive at first but you get used to it. Also that running up walls and not rolling is more effective. You can't build up massive speed in a ball like you used to, which is a shame but again you get used to it. I think players are forgetting what the older Sonics were really like in terms of level design and boss fights. If this had been released as a Megadrive game right after S&K I don't think we'd see this dismissal of the title. Back then developers just made the game, released it and by jove you had to like it. Nowadays people seem to have more of a sense of entitlement and a big ol' internet to hear other people bitching on. I'd have loved this title as a kid... heck, I love it now.
I was honestly surprised at the amount of platforming in Sonic 4. I was afraid Dimps was going to a bunch of running sections.
Marble Zone is my favorite zone in the entire damn series just because it's pure platforming.
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I haven't even played Sonic 4 yet, but I'm pleased to hear that theres a nice bit of platforming. Hated Rush because it basically consisted of hold right and jump. Very little platforming.
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It's like Green Hill 1 all over again, only this time, I'm actually competent.
I don't dislike it just because it's different from the previous games, I dislike it because it's bad when judged by its own merits.
Yeah, I feel the same way.
This is awful.
I can't say I was ever excited to play Sonic 4, but I didn't think it would be this bad.
You have every right not to like it.
I just find it funny that someone will probably pop up in a page or two and say that the game sucks because it's too similar to the Genesis games.
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Pretty much sums up why it's a bad sonic game (and I was surprised by a couple hidden mechanics I never realized Sonic 2 had).
What baffles me is he says that he "Won't be buying it."
But wait...you're playing it with a Wii Remote. The Wii doesn't offer downloadable demos.
Nice job pirating jackass.
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I don't entirely agree with that (the whole "you're dumb" thing), yeah, but it's worth considering. If you were to break down earlier Sonic games, (like you would an essay) and examine them, they hold up really well. But Sonic 4 lacks the cohesion of the earlier, good, Sonic games. So, taken as a sequel, Sonic 4 exists more as an amputated version of earlier iterations, as it lacks the mechanics that made Sonic 1, 2, and 3 interesting. It's essentially empty.
I find the physics of Sonic 4 make it a much more 'manual' game. In the originals once you got going at a good speed you could just ball up, and you'd be safe from pretty much anything, any enemies in your path would be taken out without you having to know they're there. Now you're much more vulnerable because you have to be up and running to maintain speed - same with the uncurling off ramps, you have to watch out when you come off them now.
And don't get me wrong - I certainly prefer the old games, physics and all. But I think there's a lot there with this new game, and there's a lot to like.
And the game doesn't consist of toodling around on ledges and stuff, it looks like this:
Sonic 4 speedrun
C'mon, you're telling me that doesn't look like fun?
Odd, because I did just that and still found Sonic 4 to be a competent game that fit in well with the rest of the series; beat out 3 in my eyes, anyways.
Folks having control issues prolly didn't play the Advance/DS games. Even still, DIMPS made quite a few changes to the engine here. Too bad they didn't do the classic roll physics
Just gotta hope Sega pumps out the episodes quickly.