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Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - "Return to form for a beloved series" Eurogamer 9/10

TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
edited October 2010 in Games and Technology
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SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4
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RAVE REVIEWS
App Advice - Sonic 4: An homage to a classic (4/4 stars)
Pocket Gamer - Sonic 4: Revival for the series (Bronze award)
Touch Arcade - Sonic 4: I need the rest of the episodes, yesterday!
SegaBits - Sonic 4: Highly Enjoyable (B)
AppTilt - Sonic 4: Sonic's return is a rousing success (9/10)
TiPb - Sonic 4: Great title (5/5)
IGN - Sonic 4: Look out, Mario... Sonic's back! (8/10)
Gamesradar - Sonic 4: Deserving of that title (9/10)
Eurogamer - Sonic 4: an apology for having been away for so long (9/10)
Gameinformer - Sonic 4: Looks, feels, and sounds like an upgraded Sonic game (8/10)

verdict:
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Sonic is back!

FIRST IMPRESSION PREVIEWS
IGN UK: "Dazzling"
GamesRadar: "Looks pretty good"

Old shit:
WHAT'S KNOWN SO FAR:
-2D and HD
-Sonic ONLY - No new friends, no other playable characters
-Momentum based, like the old genesis Sonic games
-Music has been released, and it uses the DAC samples from the Genesis games
-They claim they're trying to break the sonic cycle ("RIP Sonic Cycle!")
-being made "for the old fans"
-its NOT a remake of any old game
-Artwork has been revealed showing BADNIKS, not humanoid robots

WHATS BEEN SHOWN OFF SO FAR
-Teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-MTCp3wHBI
-Shellcracker from Sonic 2 is in the game
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-Motobug from Sonic 1 is in the game
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-Splash Hill Zone concept art
-Music: http://www.mediafire.com/?ddvjtz5yqvz

WHATS BEEN LEAKED (POSSIBLY) SO FAR
-It's Sonic the Hedgehog 4, as in, sequel to Sonic & Knuckles
-www.sonicthehedgehog4.com
-The first level is called Splash Hill Zone
-The last level is called E.G.G. Base Zone
-It's downloadable

TONIGHT, AT MIDNIGHT PST, THE GRAND UNVEILING OF SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 4:
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/02/03/project-needlemouse-midnight-reveal/#more-4091

I'm knee deep in development of my previously-titled but currently-untitled XNA game, the first commercial product which will use my proprietary 2D engine. It was originally the Hedgehog engine, but Sega took that with Sonic Unleashed. So I changed it to NeedleMouse, and sega fucking takes it again!

STOP FOLLOWING ME SEGA!
don't stop

Oh yeah, and sega announced a new 2D sonic game that plays like the genesis titles in HD. for reelz. Even the "Seeeeee-gaaaaaa" sound is included.

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Trailer
GS: Why did Sega decide to bring Sonic back to 2D? Did the success of Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure play a part?

KB: Old-school Sonic fans have long asked to see Sonic return to a more 2D style of gameplay. Many liked the daytime stages in Unleashed, but wanted to see a game that plays purely similar to the early games of the Genesis. Project Needlemouse is that critical first step that brings Sonic back to his 2D roots.

GS: What can you tell us about the game?

KB: I can tell you it’s a brand new 2D adventure coming out in 2010, it’s in HD, and to definitely stay tuned.

Fucking name thieves...

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Awesome.

    Also, don't let Sega discover your new name. They're watching you.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Pata wrote: »
    Awesome.

    Also, don't let Sega discover your new name. They're watching you.

    Italian Plumber Engine

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  • DartboyDartboy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Call it BloodTalyn, the DarkHog Engine. ...Or, you know, Porcupine, since those are different from hedgehogs.

    Anyway, this could be interesting. We'll have to wait and hear more details first though, since 2D alone doesn't automatically make it good. Good level design is important, and that's something that even the more recent 2D games have been lacking, such as the Advance series. The Rush games were fairly decent, but still not up to the same standards as the original Genesis games.

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Spikey Rodent?
    Barb-Spiked Carapace'd bottom-feeder?

    is the mw2 engine called shoot things?

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    is the mw2 engine called shoot things?

    It's literally called IW Engine.

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I suppose you dont have a two worded company name that sounds good as an acronym.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    I suppose you dont have a two worded company name that sounds good as an acronym.

    Studio K Games

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  • TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane Not Angry... Just VERY Disappointed...Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Gracious. A 2D sonic game that's a return to basics, done in HD, with comments that the developers are listening to the fans?

    Either the sonic cycle is about to be broken, or this is the most devious iteration yet.

    Engage hopes (Y/N)?

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Holy Fuck. There is a god. Change the thread name so people know what the hell this is about!!!

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  • darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Now I don't know how to respond.

    Do I do this:
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    Or this:
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    Because, you know, this:
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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Because, you know, this:
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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I like the idea of being excited for a Sonic game, but it just won't happen until I see the forum impressions and actual reviews.

    They're well past strike 3 now, and I don't know if there's even a phrase that would adequately describe how stupid I'd be on the "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice..." scale.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Also, pssssst:

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I can't help but think this will end badly.

    Then again, Sonic Rush was fun. (And Hideki Naganuma OST = bonus)

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  • SachielSachiel Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yaaaaaaay it's a Sonic 1 HD remake.

    ("All new", yeah right.)

    Next. :(

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  • darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I think I'll stick with moderate amusement until they release a gameplay trailer. Then I'll lose myself in excitement all over again because nothing brings joy like the promise of a new Sonic game.

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  • NinjabearNinjabear Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    My reaction is gonna be a big fat "mehhh" until I see some actual gameplay footage.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Teaser Site showing off platforms

    Looks... odd
    http://www.needlemouse.com/

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  • His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So is it actually 2D, or is it 3D restricted to a plane?

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Sonic Rush was fun until the last boss fight, which was just stupid.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Interesting.

    Guess it's going for 2.5D, eh?

    Anyway, curious to see where this goes.

    But what is especially interesting to me is that Sonic Team has not been mentioned at all whatsoever, at least that I've seen.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I bet that character in the "hidden logo" screen is Shadow. I think he's got a desert eagle in his hand.

    2D HD shooter action! Go into HEDGEHOG TIME and raise your multiplier with each headshot!
    Turn rings into bombs and obliterate your enemies! Choose one of 28* support characters in your 4 person team! (*Sonic may be included)

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  • XytonXyton Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    http://www.needlemouse.com/ looks very Tim Burton to me. Also, I'm'a try to hold out hope that it's actually new and they're just using the Sonic 1 logo as a placeholder. Or perhaps a clue as to what it might be...! (Hmm.... :P)

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The old Sonic logo style is more synonymous with the classic Genesis titles, isn't it? Maybe it's a sort of separate branding from the 3D titles, sort of following New Super Mario Bros. use of a revised version of the classic SMB logo. Or Mega Man 9's graphic style.

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  • DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    ErinEngine. Hn....

    I haven't played a sonic game since like, sonic 2. Well, one that I really enjoyed....

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Funny. Your engine was the first thing I thought of when I heard about this.

    I'd be mildly interested in the unlikely case that a PC version comes out.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Teaser Site showing off platforms

    Looks... odd
    http://www.needlemouse.com/

    Oh my god it looks like Neverhood.

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  • CowbombCowbomb Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The old Sonic logo style is more synonymous with the classic Genesis titles, isn't it? Maybe it's a sort of separate branding from the 3D titles, sort of following New Super Mario Bros. use of a revised version of the classic SMB logo. Or Mega Man 9's graphic style.

    They should release it as 'Sonic the Hedgehog 4'

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  • IgortIgort Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well, I'm excited. But I'm a sucker for Sonic, as I'm sure most people here know now.

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  • carmofincarmofin Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So Sega is doing it again, trying to take Sonic into a "new direction" to "get everything right this time", the question is, who is still buying it? This is now what, their fourth attempt in a row to "start from the groundup" and finally do exactly "what fans want"?
    Its 2D alright, but in my opinion the GBA and DS games show clearly that being 2D alone is not enough.
    Me, I am absolutely convinced that in the end there will be horrid level design, unbearable emo music and clunky physics and until they prove me wrong with solid proof, or I hear the name Hideki Naganuma they can stuff it.
    And fyi, my bias turned into utter hate at exactly the point when I saw that some clueless students 3d sonic engine demo project easily puts 10 years of awkward sonic history by sega to shame. Its not that its impossible, its only impossible for Sega.

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  • DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Teaser Site showing off platforms

    Looks... odd
    http://www.needlemouse.com/

    Oh my god it looks like Neverhood.

    Yea, it really does

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Too funny not to share:

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    Hopefully not prophetic.

    (I did like the fishing missions in SA1, really)

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  • SomestickguySomestickguy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    so, what, is this going to be 2d sprites on a 3d landscape?

    I can kind of see that working.....

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    so, what, is this going to be 2d sprites on a 3d landscape?

    I can kind of see that working.....

    No one has any clue yet but I highly doubt that. Even Sonic Rush was the reverse of that (3D characters on 2D landscape). This is likely full 3D, but again nobody knows.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Teaser Site showing off platforms

    Looks... odd
    http://www.needlemouse.com/

    Oh my god it looks like Neverhood.

    It looks fucking awesome, just like Neverhood. A Sonic game where you play a claymation hedgehog would actually be interesting.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wrong thread?

    edit: well, edited away.

    Carry on.

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  • darkenedwingdarkenedwing Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    now, some people are bashing a Shadow game, and others are saying its probably a 3d game on a 2d plane.
    now, think. Shadow Complex with Shadow the Hedgehog.
    Shadow Shadow Complex :P

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  • AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Goddamnit TSR, I was so hoping Sega signed you up for your engine or some shit (and possibly being the lead of designing this new Sonic hah hah hah! ...sigh), turns out now you have to change your engine's name :(

    [edit]Just saw the platform designs.... does not bode well.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I was never a Sega kid so I played Sonic 1 when the Wii came out and did not care for it at all. There was no speed, you had to take it really slow so as not to be killed by the multitude of deathtraps. If you wanted to run fast, ever, you better have memorized the level. Mario games played faster. I see a lot of fans decrying Sega's "run fast all the time" philosophy but what else is special about Sonic? Without that it's just a typical platformer.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I can't wait to see what horrible design decision SEGA puts in this one that ruins the game completely.

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