I don't know. Struck me as common sense to wait for my save icon (PS3) to disappear, exit to the menu, and turn off the PS3 from there.
And like I mentioned in the initial post up there, I made damn sure there was no indicator on there. I died, waited for a bit and watched the death-scene, did not see any save game indicator (twirling circle) and proceeded to switch off the 360.
Gotta say that a DLC challenge map full of Lunatics sounds fucking awful. I hated those pricks, somehow one would always wind up behind me and get on my back while I was ground-pounding my current victim.
While theyre easy to deal with I found it impossible to deal with them quickly in multiples since countering and slamming one will inevitably end with another on your back.
I read on the rocksteady forums that it could be down to switching the console off during the little cut-scene just after you die. Maybe there's an autosave right there thats not indicated in anyway? Who knows. Whatever it is, it needs sorting.
There is an auto-save there, on the PS3 anyway you can see it doing the little circle auto save thing in the corner after you die.
Why anybody would shut off the console without backing out to the main menu is beyond me.
Because this isn't a PC? I bought the 360 version so I wouldn''t have to jump through hoops to shut down the machine I'm playing on; you know, ease of access. I don't expect to have to exit out to the main menu and then shut down the console, that shouldn't be affecting the saves.
But it certainly appears that being extra careful would've been of some sort of help. In this case... When I play games that allow it, I save often and use multiple slots to do it. I always back out to the main menu before exiting. And I never panic the instant the system locks up or appears to.
I didn't have any corrupted saves playing Batman, so it can hardly be the worst advice to follow...
I read on the rocksteady forums that it could be down to switching the console off during the little cut-scene just after you die. Maybe there's an autosave right there thats not indicated in anyway? Who knows. Whatever it is, it needs sorting.
There is an auto-save there, on the PS3 anyway you can see it doing the little circle auto save thing in the corner after you die.
Why anybody would shut off the console without backing out to the main menu is beyond me.
Because this isn't a PC? I bought the 360 version so I wouldn''t have to jump through hoops to shut down the machine I'm playing on; you know, ease of access. I don't expect to have to exit out to the main menu and then shut down the console, that shouldn't be affecting the saves.
But it certainly appears that being extra careful would've been of some sort of help. In this case... When I play games that allow it, I save often and use multiple slots to do it. I always back out to the main menu before exiting. And I never panic the instant the system locks up or appears to.
I didn't have any corrupted saves playing Batman, so it can hardly be the worst advice to follow...
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the advice, I just don't think cotton-woolling my exit strategy for switching the console off is something that should be accceptable. I get that it works and thats great, but why should we have to do that? You don't find it frustrating that in order to play this game without fault you need to exit out to the meny everytime you want to switch off your machine? When every other game doesn't seem to have a problem with it, I find it annoying.
Any game will tell you to not switch off the console while saving.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DID NOT DO THAT! ARGH!!!
Alright I'm calm.......... Good. So, like I mentioned before, there was no indicator saying the game was saving, it was clear, I was supposedly fine to switch off the machine. Not my fault. And I don't mean that in a "I'm never wrong" asshole-y way, I genuinely made sure there wasn't any saving of any kind going on. I even have the game on the HDD to reduce thechances of shit happening.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the advice, I just don't think cotton-woolling my exit strategy for switching the console off is something that should be accceptable. I get that it works and thats great, but why should we have to do that? You don't find it frustrating that in order to play this game without fault you need to exit out to the meny everytime you want to switch off your machine? When every other game doesn't seem to have a problem with it, I find it annoying.
Clearly, I don't find it annoying. Since, you know, I do it 99% of the time. (I leave room for the rare times I must, for whatever reason, instantly shut down...)
In this case, you're probably just running into the fact that MS doesn't require save/load notifications for a period of under five or three seconds (I forget which). It's usually a good idea for devs to force the save/load message or indicator to appear for five seconds whenever such events take place for less time. You know, to be safe. But MS doesn't require that and some devs can't or won't do that. (Then again, there will be some people who'd be pissed off that they have to wait five seconds anyway, so you can't really win...)
It's nice indeed to be able to shut the 360 down quickly. But because of my tech background, I'm always wary about little glitches. So I just take a few extra seconds and button presses, usually from directly in a game (whatever game) to ensure that saving or loading is finished, and I've never encountered a corrupt data file.
Maybe it would help, in future, to exit to the dashboard first instead of just shutting the system down? That way you allow any processes to finish up.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the advice, I just don't think cotton-woolling my exit strategy for switching the console off is something that should be accceptable. I get that it works and thats great, but why should we have to do that? You don't find it frustrating that in order to play this game without fault you need to exit out to the meny everytime you want to switch off your machine? When every other game doesn't seem to have a problem with it, I find it annoying.
Not really. But then exiting to the menu is just how I quit a game. I suppose it might bug me if I ordinarily saved, pulled up the guide, and hit Y instead of save, quit, pull up the guide, and hit Y. No idea why it is my default, but it is.
Any game will tell you to not switch off the console while saving.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DID NOT DO THAT! ARGH!!!
Clearly you did. Why else would you have a corrupt save?
Am I not writing it clearly enough? I did not see a save game indicator when I turned off the console, there was no circle. Sure, maybe the game was saving and the indicator didn't show for some unkown reason but I know for a fact that there was no indicator. I made damned sure I was switching it off safely, especially after the first time it happened.
As for the way you guys are exiting the game, I obviously haven't come across corrupt saves before (on the 360) hence the reason I don't do the who 'exit to menu' routine. I will do now obviously, despite not liking it but hey, if it saves me hours of gameplay then why not?
Any game will tell you to not switch off the console while saving.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DID NOT DO THAT! ARGH!!!
Clearly you did. Why else would you have a corrupt save?
Am I not writing it clearly enough? I did not see a save game indicator when I turned off the console, there was no circle. Sure, maybe the game was saving and the indicator didn't show for some unkown reason but I know for a fact that there was no indicator. I made damned sure I was switching it off safely, especially after the first time it happened.
As for the way you guys are exiting the game, I obviously haven't come across corrupt saves before (on the 360) hence the reason I don't do the who 'exit to menu' routine. I will do now obviously, despite not liking it but hey, if it saves me hours of gameplay then why not?
I assume that when you die it auto-saves your progress and if you continue it reads that progress. No indicator so its not your fault in theory but I would only ever exit while in the game world as nothing can be happening.
Amazon is giving me an estimated delivery date of Sept 16 even though my package of Batman has been in my vicinity since yesterday. Goddamit Amazon, don't fuck with me. There better be a box of Bats on my doorstep tomorrow.
But thats the problem I'm having with the whole situation, I actually left it after watching the death-scene play for a while whilst I searched for my DS. Spent atleast 2 minutes finding the damn thing and then went to charge it. Came back and then switched off, leaving the game ample time to save anything it needed. In any case I'll be restarting again because GODDAMN BATMAN and all that. I can't stay angry at this game.
Any game will tell you to not switch off the console while saving.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DID NOT DO THAT! ARGH!!!
Clearly you did. Why else would you have a corrupt save?
Am I not writing it clearly enough? I did not see a save game indicator when I turned off the console, there was no circle. Sure, maybe the game was saving and the indicator didn't show for some unkown reason but I know for a fact that there was no indicator. I made damned sure I was switching it off safely, especially after the first time it happened.
As for the way you guys are exiting the game, I obviously haven't come across corrupt saves before (on the 360) hence the reason I don't do the who 'exit to menu' routine. I will do now obviously, despite not liking it but hey, if it saves me hours of gameplay then why not?
I am sure that you're correct that there was no save icon, but the game was clearly manipulating your save file when you turned off the console.
Any game will tell you to not switch off the console while saving.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DID NOT DO THAT! ARGH!!!
Clearly you did. Why else would you have a corrupt save?
Am I not writing it clearly enough? I did not see a save game indicator when I turned off the console, there was no circle. Sure, maybe the game was saving and the indicator didn't show for some unkown reason but I know for a fact that there was no indicator. I made damned sure I was switching it off safely, especially after the first time it happened.
As for the way you guys are exiting the game, I obviously haven't come across corrupt saves before (on the 360) hence the reason I don't do the who 'exit to menu' routine. I will do now obviously, despite not liking it but hey, if it saves me hours of gameplay then why not?
I assume that when you die it auto-saves your progress and if you continue it reads that progress. No indicator so its not your fault in theory but I would only ever exit while in the game world as nothing should be happening.
Fix'd. They can have hidden loads and saves if they're under five (or three...) seconds. But yeah, waiting a second or two after returning to the gameworld is unlikely to encounter any issues like this.
Any game will tell you to not switch off the console while saving.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DID NOT DO THAT! ARGH!!!
Clearly you did. Why else would you have a corrupt save?
Am I not writing it clearly enough? I did not see a save game indicator when I turned off the console, there was no circle. Sure, maybe the game was saving and the indicator didn't show for some unkown reason but I know for a fact that there was no indicator. I made damned sure I was switching it off safely, especially after the first time it happened.
As for the way you guys are exiting the game, I obviously haven't come across corrupt saves before (on the 360) hence the reason I don't do the who 'exit to menu' routine. I will do now obviously, despite not liking it but hey, if it saves me hours of gameplay then why not?
You shouldn't turn off the console when its saving.
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I love you all. Seriously though, thanks for the tips. Will exit to menu before switching off from now on.
edit: I should mention that the first time I got the corrupt save I avtually thought it was the game screwing with me because.... .well, you know. I just laughed like mad thinking you bastards. Then I realised what happened and somehow meesed up the 'X' button on my pad. Still, for those first ten seconds I was really giddy.
I love you all. Seriously though, thanks for the tips. Will exit to menu before switching off from now on.
edit: I should mention that the first time I got the corrupt save I avtually thought it was the game screwing with me because.... .well, you know. I just laughed like mad thinking you bastards. Then I realised what happened and somehow meesed up the 'X' button on my pad. Still, for those first ten seconds I was really giddy.
Sounds like Joker pulled the ultimate joke on you.
Anyway, exiting to menu might be a good thing to make a habit, in case you run into more games that are saving when they say they are not.
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God damn it it's like seventeen goddamn hours 'till this comes out on Steam
I swear to god they're holding my Batman hostage at some UPS facility in Sante Fe Springs for days on end, just so it'll be a day late. I wish he could materialize and start punching some brown-shorted groins left and right over there.
Just beat this game a couple hours ago. Loved every minute of this game! Definitely going to be in my top ten for the year. The production values were through the roof!
i dunno, a lunatic map sounds like a nice change of pace to me. i mean, all the combat maps feel kinda the same (except shock and awe), and lunatics running all over the place forces you to play differently
you just need to prepare yourself. that what batman would do
Why are people saying lunatics go down straight away? If you punch them they stay up, and if you counter them you still have to ground takedown them. I don't see that being easy with lost of them.
What? Punch or takedown the lunatics go down straight away, unless this is on hard mode or something. Either way, it's fairly easy to give yourself some breathing space if you've pulled three or four, which I did several times at the points where the outdoor maps fill up.
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The generic crazies go down quickly on normal? I was playing hard and it took them a good few hits, at least 5 or usually more in a combo to be taken out if I didn't do a takedown move.
Countering their charge puts them down, then a ground takedown finishes them. They are really boring to fight, I'm hoping what they mean is that you'll fight groups of mooks as normal, and every now and then waves of loons will rush in.
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Nope. I'm playing Hard right now and lunatics definitely still take only one hit plus the ground takedown.
I'll be clear: lunatics are the ones that run at you and mount you, forcing you to PRESS X/A TO NOT DIE.
Oh no oh no oh no oh no
Are they able to be considered in a vague fashion sort of like a QTE? Do I have to destroy the game now because we can't take none of that none of that at all?
Nope. I'm playing Hard right now and lunatics definitely still take only one hit plus the ground takedown.
I'll be clear: lunatics are the ones that run at you and mount you, forcing you to PRESS X/A TO NOT DIE.
Oh no oh no oh no oh no
Are they able to be considered in a vague fashion sort of like a QTE? Do I have to destroy the game now because we can't take none of that none of that at all?
Not really, because if you do it right, you shouldn't have to go through that. Counter them when they run at you, or just strike them before they get too close. I think batarangs and batclaws work too. Then ground takedown.
So in this case, having to do the QTE is kind of a message saying "you suck and clearly are not Batman."
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And like I mentioned in the initial post up there, I made damn sure there was no indicator on there. I died, waited for a bit and watched the death-scene, did not see any save game indicator (twirling circle) and proceeded to switch off the 360.
every single one of em is always terrified. its like their default condition.
But it certainly appears that being extra careful would've been of some sort of help. In this case... When I play games that allow it, I save often and use multiple slots to do it. I always back out to the main menu before exiting. And I never panic the instant the system locks up or appears to.
I didn't have any corrupted saves playing Batman, so it can hardly be the worst advice to follow...
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the advice, I just don't think cotton-woolling my exit strategy for switching the console off is something that should be accceptable. I get that it works and thats great, but why should we have to do that? You don't find it frustrating that in order to play this game without fault you need to exit out to the meny everytime you want to switch off your machine? When every other game doesn't seem to have a problem with it, I find it annoying.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DID NOT DO THAT! ARGH!!!
Alright I'm calm.......... Good. So, like I mentioned before, there was no indicator saying the game was saving, it was clear, I was supposedly fine to switch off the machine. Not my fault. And I don't mean that in a "I'm never wrong" asshole-y way, I genuinely made sure there wasn't any saving of any kind going on. I even have the game on the HDD to reduce thechances of shit happening.
Clearly, I don't find it annoying. Since, you know, I do it 99% of the time. (I leave room for the rare times I must, for whatever reason, instantly shut down...)
In this case, you're probably just running into the fact that MS doesn't require save/load notifications for a period of under five or three seconds (I forget which). It's usually a good idea for devs to force the save/load message or indicator to appear for five seconds whenever such events take place for less time. You know, to be safe. But MS doesn't require that and some devs can't or won't do that. (Then again, there will be some people who'd be pissed off that they have to wait five seconds anyway, so you can't really win...)
It's nice indeed to be able to shut the 360 down quickly. But because of my tech background, I'm always wary about little glitches. So I just take a few extra seconds and button presses, usually from directly in a game (whatever game) to ensure that saving or loading is finished, and I've never encountered a corrupt data file.
Maybe it would help, in future, to exit to the dashboard first instead of just shutting the system down? That way you allow any processes to finish up.
Not really. But then exiting to the menu is just how I quit a game. I suppose it might bug me if I ordinarily saved, pulled up the guide, and hit Y instead of save, quit, pull up the guide, and hit Y. No idea why it is my default, but it is.
Clearly you did. Why else would you have a corrupt save?
Am I not writing it clearly enough? I did not see a save game indicator when I turned off the console, there was no circle. Sure, maybe the game was saving and the indicator didn't show for some unkown reason but I know for a fact that there was no indicator. I made damned sure I was switching it off safely, especially after the first time it happened.
As for the way you guys are exiting the game, I obviously haven't come across corrupt saves before (on the 360) hence the reason I don't do the who 'exit to menu' routine. I will do now obviously, despite not liking it but hey, if it saves me hours of gameplay then why not?
I assume that when you die it auto-saves your progress and if you continue it reads that progress. No indicator so its not your fault in theory but I would only ever exit while in the game world as nothing can be happening.
I am sure that you're correct that there was no save icon, but the game was clearly manipulating your save file when you turned off the console.
Fix'd. They can have hidden loads and saves if they're under five (or three...) seconds. But yeah, waiting a second or two after returning to the gameworld is unlikely to encounter any issues like this.
You shouldn't turn off the console when its saving.
edit: I should mention that the first time I got the corrupt save I avtually thought it was the game screwing with me because.... .well, you know. I just laughed like mad thinking you bastards. Then I realised what happened and somehow meesed up the 'X' button on my pad. Still, for those first ten seconds I was really giddy.
Sounds like Joker pulled the ultimate joke on you.
Anyway, exiting to menu might be a good thing to make a habit, in case you run into more games that are saving when they say they are not.
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you just need to prepare yourself. that what batman would do
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I'll be clear: lunatics are the ones that run at you and mount you, forcing you to PRESS X/A TO NOT DIE.
Oh no oh no oh no oh no
Are they able to be considered in a vague fashion sort of like a QTE? Do I have to destroy the game now because we can't take none of that none of that at all?
So in this case, having to do the QTE is kind of a message saying "you suck and clearly are not Batman."
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