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I know it's unpopular, but I can't be the only one. I hate the PSP and the DS. I want to play games on my console, not a handheld. I remember back in the day the Gamecube had the GBA player that let you play GBA games on your console and I LOVED it.
I hate the small screens, bad control schemes, battery life, and uncomfortable grips for large hands. I want to play these great games on my console, not the handheld. I'm not asking for letting me play the games directly on my console without the handheld device. However, let me buy a PSP/DS and then plug it into my console. From there let me display it (full screen) to my TV and play it with the console controller. It doesn't seem like a very hard feature to add. The Wii/DS is nowhere close to this, but the PS3/PSP integration now has some pretty cool features with RemotePlay & Ad-Hoc Party. I could see it being added eventually if there was enough demand.
There are seriously tons of new games I would buy if I didn't have to play them on the stupid handheld. I really, really hate playing games on it. The only time I will use it is if the game is amazing or if I'm stuck in a car on a long trip, that's it.
Anyone else feel the same way I do, or am I alone in this want?
Nope. Basically the whole market is shifting towards handhelds (see massive sales including the iPhone which isn't even dedicated) and everybody loves it but you.
I hate the small screens, bad control schemes, battery life, and uncomfortable grips for large hands. I want to play these great games on my console, not the handheld. I'm not asking for letting me play the games directly on my console without the handheld device. However, let me buy a PSP/DS and then plug it into my console. From there let me display it (full screen) to my TV and play it with the console controller. It doesn't seem like a very hard feature to add. The Wii/DS is nowhere close to this, but the PS3/PSP integration now has some pretty cool features with RemotePlay & Ad-Hoc Party. I could see it being added eventually if there was enough demand.
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I love handhelds. Gotta pick up another DS eventually.
I don't hate them, but I'm not a fan. On the whole, the game quality is worse than it is on consoles, and I have zero need for gaming on the go. Because of this, I stick to a very small number of games on the DS that are really unique, with at least moderately deep gameplay.
And then I proceed to not finish about half of them.
Carrying the rig that holds a TV, console, and power supply around hurts my back too much, and makes it really hard to get a seat on the bus.
So for that reason, I'm cool with handhelds. I do love to play games on a console, and am party to the thought that a new console Metroidvania or 2D Sonic game would be good because it's on a bigger screen, but I don't mind the smaller experience. My only grievance was that until recently, it was the only place you could get most of those types of games that I liked. On the other hand, without them, there might not have been any at all.
Controls don't bother me, save for forced stuff like the stylus-only Star Fox Command controls, but that's not the fault of being portable.
Before I received a PSP as a gift, I did hope that the PS3 would have a way to play UMDs on the bigger screen, but that was more because I didn't own a PS2, either, so getting a console that would allow me to play PS2, PS3, and PSP games would have been a tremendous value for me, even at $600. Of course, once I got the PSP, that concern actually faded.
But my parents wouldn't let me have a Game Boy when I was growing up, so I'm enjoying portable gaming a lot more now. And it makes long bus rides, subway trips, doctor's waits, bus stops, and other would-be boring time much more tolerable. So I enjoy having them.
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Not the game selection, mind you; the DS has an ungodly amount of great games, and the PSP also has enough great games to differentiate it. I've owned both at different times; the Ace Attorney games and some of the Nintendo first-party stuff were the reason I bought a DS, and I bought a PSP solely for Rock Band Unplugged. I sold the DS and I'm pretty near selling the PSP; I just never play it anymore.
I live ten minutes from work, so my daily commute is a personal car ride. I can't play games at work. The only time I can play games is when I'm at home, usually here at my desk...situated right next to my computer and a big ass HDTV. I find the controls for both handhelds unpleasant, and it's a pain in the ass craning my neck down to look at them. Of course, there are games on the DS that simply wouldn't work on a TV, but Elite Beat Agents aside, those aren't the types of games I play. I long for a console Ace Attorney and Rock Band Unplugged, though it will likely never happen.
I don't like handhelds much as well.
My fingers are too long and I tend to get corperal tunnel and my fingers go numb after 15 minutes of play on my psp / ds.
A couple of my friends dislike handhelds as well, but they strictly play console EA sport games so I know it's just because they have terribly poor taste.
I know it's unpopular, but I can't be the only one. I hate the PSP and the DS. I want to play games on my console, not a handheld. I remember back in the day the Gamecube had the GBA player that let you play GBA games on your console and I LOVED it.
As noted, the PSP has component cables that allow you top game on your TV.
As for the DS, I don't think many people have a touch-screen television.
I want to play these great games on my console, not the handheld. I'm not asking for letting me play the games directly on my console without the handheld device. However, let me buy a PSP/DS and then plug it into my console. From there let me display it (full screen) to my TV and play it with the console controller. It doesn't seem like a very hard feature to add. The Wii/DS is nowhere close to this, but the PS3/PSP integration now has some pretty cool features with RemotePlay & Ad-Hoc Party. I could see it being added eventually if there was enough demand.
I'd like to see you play Kirby: Canvas Curse on a TV. Wouldn't work out so well.
There are seriously tons of new games I would buy if I didn't have to play them on the stupid handheld. I really, really hate playing games on it. The only time I will use it is if the game is amazing or if I'm stuck in a car on a long trip, that's it.
Anyone else feel the same way I do, or am I alone in this want?
It doesn't hurt to relax on your couch to play a handheld. You don't necessarily need to be in a car, yes.
I own a DS an have a bunch of boss games for it, but like other people I drive myself to work and do most of my gaming at home where I have a 360 and a PC that are much more comfortable to game on. The DS pretty much only gets broken out when I have to fly places and sit in the airport for hours. I used it a lot between classes in college but those days are behind me. I guess I've out grown it.
I know it's unpopular, but I can't be the only one. I hate the PSP and the DS. I want to play games on my console, not a handheld. I remember back in the day the Gamecube had the GBA player that let you play GBA games on your console and I LOVED it.
As noted, the PSP has component cables that allow you top game on your TV.
As for the DS, I don't think many people have a touch-screen television.
Hating something and 'not having a reason to use it often' are totally different.
I guess but the effect is the same here. Want to play the handheld games, just not on the handheld.
Why would anyone want to do that?
Because presumably, the games are good enough to play on their own merit. Not as a reponse to "Meh, I'm sitting on a bus with nothing better to do, might as well do something to kill dead time."
Not liking handhelds is okay since that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. The solution to this is simple though, don't buy them. The rest of us may or may not and you don't have to worry about it anymore. :P
There are seriously tons of new games I would buy if I didn't have to play them on the stupid handheld. I really, really hate playing games on it. The only time I will use it is if the game is amazing or if I'm stuck in a car on a long trip, that's it.
So you hate playing games on it, unless you really enjoy the game you're playing?
I'm poking fun, but you're leaving yourself really open to ridicule here. Handhelds clearly just Aren't For You, especially if you don't get any use out of the portable aspect of them. But suffice to say that if you're going to bring up the "squinting at a small screen," "cramping my neck" or "straining my hands" arguments, I'll follow up with a question: Do you hate books and magazines too?
As someone who owns a DS, PSP and iPhone—and probably ends up with way more time on them than my Wii or 360—I politely disagree. Even couch gaming is nice on a handheld, because you can tinker around while your wife watches TV, or pick it up for five minutes and then put it down when you have to go to something else.
Not the game selection, mind you; the DS has an ungodly amount of great games, and the PSP also has enough great games to differentiate it. I've owned both at different times; the Ace Attorney games and some of the Nintendo first-party stuff were the reason I bought a DS, and I bought a PSP solely for Rock Band Unplugged. I sold the DS and I'm pretty near selling the PSP; I just never play it anymore.
I live ten minutes from work, so my daily commute is a personal car ride. I can't play games at work. The only time I can play games is when I'm at home, usually here at my desk...situated right next to my computer and a big ass HDTV. I find the controls for both handhelds unpleasant, and it's a pain in the ass craning my neck down to look at them. Of course, there are games on the DS that simply wouldn't work on a TV, but Elite Beat Agents aside, those aren't the types of games I play. I long for a console Ace Attorney and Rock Band Unplugged, though it will likely never happen.
There are seriously tons of new games I would buy if I didn't have to play them on the stupid handheld. I really, really hate playing games on it. The only time I will use it is if the game is amazing or if I'm stuck in a car on a long trip, that's it.
So you hate playing games on it, unless you really enjoy the game you're playing?
I'm poking fun, but you're leaving yourself really open to ridicule here. Handhelds clearly just Aren't For You, especially if you don't get any use out of the portable aspect of them. But suffice to say that if you're going to bring up the "squinting at a small screen," "cramping my neck" or "straining my hands" arguments, I'll follow up with a question: Do you hate books and magazines too?
I, for one, hate anything that is portable. Even books and magazines. When at home I opt to read them on a podium for the maximum unportability.
I don't think the issue exactly has to be "handhelds aren't for you," not if developers would not set lower standards for their own games because of portability.
I do wonder how many people buy DSes specifically for the portability.
Not the game selection, mind you; the DS has an ungodly amount of great games, and the PSP also has enough great games to differentiate it. I've owned both at different times; the Ace Attorney games and some of the Nintendo first-party stuff were the reason I bought a DS, and I bought a PSP solely for Rock Band Unplugged. I sold the DS and I'm pretty near selling the PSP; I just never play it anymore.
I live ten minutes from work, so my daily commute is a personal car ride. I can't play games at work. The only time I can play games is when I'm at home, usually here at my desk...situated right next to my computer and a big ass HDTV. I find the controls for both handhelds unpleasant, and it's a pain in the ass craning my neck down to look at them. Of course, there are games on the DS that simply wouldn't work on a TV, but Elite Beat Agents aside, those aren't the types of games I play. I long for a console Ace Attorney and Rock Band Unplugged, though it will likely never happen.
This is basically my experience. Back when I was in college I used my GBA constantly. Nowadays since I just drive to work I don't have the will/time to use my DS. I feel kinda bad that I bought Valkyrie Profile for DS and haven't made any real progress in 2 months.
There are seriously tons of new games I would buy if I didn't have to play them on the stupid handheld. I really, really hate playing games on it. The only time I will use it is if the game is amazing or if I'm stuck in a car on a long trip, that's it.
So you hate playing games on it, unless you really enjoy the game you're playing?
I'm poking fun, but you're leaving yourself really open to ridicule here. Handhelds clearly just Aren't For You, especially if you don't get any use out of the portable aspect of them. But suffice to say that if you're going to bring up the "squinting at a small screen," "cramping my neck" or "straining my hands" arguments, I'll follow up with a question: Do you hate books and magazines too?
As someone who owns a DS, PSP and iPhone—and probably ends up with way more time on them than my Wii or 360—I politely disagree. Even couch gaming is nice on a handheld, because you can tinker around while your wife watches TV, or pick it up for five minutes and then put it down when you have to go to something else.
Uh, a book is nothing compared to a handheld, that is a pretty retarded statement. Some of you guys aren't getting the fact that he likes the games that are on the handheld, he just wants another way of playing them. There are alot of unique games on the ds/psp that you won't find on a console.
Because presumably, the games are good enough to play on their own merit. Not as a reponse to "Meh, I'm sitting on a bus with nothing better to do, might as well do something to kill dead time."
But handheld stuff is all about matching specific hardware with the software. I dunno, emulated handheld stuff sucks.
There are seriously tons of new games I would buy if I didn't have to play them on the stupid handheld. I really, really hate playing games on it. The only time I will use it is if the game is amazing or if I'm stuck in a car on a long trip, that's it.
So you hate playing games on it, unless you really enjoy the game you're playing?
I'm poking fun, but you're leaving yourself really open to ridicule here. Handhelds clearly just Aren't For You, especially if you don't get any use out of the portable aspect of them. But suffice to say that if you're going to bring up the "squinting at a small screen," "cramping my neck" or "straining my hands" arguments, I'll follow up with a question: Do you hate books and magazines too?
As someone who owns a DS, PSP and iPhone—and probably ends up with way more time on them than my Wii or 360—I politely disagree. Even couch gaming is nice on a handheld, because you can tinker around while your wife watches TV, or pick it up for five minutes and then put it down when you have to go to something else.
Uh, a book is nothing compared to a handheld, that is a pretty retarded statement. Some of you guys aren't getting the fact that he likes the games that are on the handheld, he just wants another way of playing them. There are alot of unique games on the ds/psp that you won't find on a console.
I'm referring to the classic complaint that playing on a handheld forces people to crane their necks in strange positions. If you have trouble reading something that you're holding in your hands without hurting yourself, the problem exists outside of gaming.
I don't really disagree with the broader statement—I'd have no qualms with a DS or PSP player, a la the Gamecube GBA player, though half of the DS games wouldn't work—but I guess I don't understand why people find portables uncomfortable. I mean, unless you're playing Metroid Prime Hunters or Monster Hunter.
Because presumably, the games are good enough to play on their own merit. Not as a reponse to "Meh, I'm sitting on a bus with nothing better to do, might as well do something to kill dead time."
But handheld stuff is all about matching specific hardware with the software. I dunno, emulated handheld stuff sucks.
While this may have been true some time ago, Handheld games are now at the level of quality somewhere between the PS1/N64 and dreamcast, and budgets for many handheld titles have been rising steadily, with some rather amazing results coming out of it (like the PSP God of War, or the DS final Fantasy remakes).
I would love playing some of these on the big screen, as I too rarely get any non-iPhone handheld gaming in.
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Those amazing games exist on the handhelds because that's the only place said games can exist, either because of budget (limiting graphics, smaller games, etc), gameplay considerations (touch screen, motion detection, etc), or a combination of those.
Handhelds can be used when you're at home. You're not making your HDTV useless by sitting and playing a handheld as home. Find a comfy chair or couch and play the damned game; if you're craining your neck or getting hurt or whatever then you're doing it wrong.
I don't really disagree with the broader statement—I'd have no qualms with a DS or PSP player, a la the Gamecube GBA player, though half of the DS games wouldn't work—but I guess I don't understand why people find portables uncomfortable. I mean, unless you're playing Metroid Prime Hunters or Monster Hunter.
In my case, it's my hands. For standard DS use, two fingers on each finger hang awkwardly down past the bottom of the system, and the stylus is just way too short. Granted, I could get a longer stylus, and then have to keep track of it separately.
But generally, it's like Chamberlain said, the DS Castlevanias are good games that cannot be found elsewhere, I'd rather be playing games like those on a TV and standard controller.
Opty: Why couldn't the DS Castlevania games be made and released for Xbox Live Arcade, for example?
What's the point of this thread, anyway?
People who hate handhelds are not gonna convince the others that handhelds suck. And people who like them will not convince the haters.
I don't really disagree with the broader statement—I'd have no qualms with a DS or PSP player, a la the Gamecube GBA player, though half of the DS games wouldn't work—but I guess I don't understand why people find portables uncomfortable. I mean, unless you're playing Metroid Prime Hunters or Monster Hunter.
In my case, it's my hands. For standard DS use, two fingers on each finger hang awkwardly down past the bottom of the system, and the stylus is just way too short. Granted, I could get a longer stylus, and then have to keep track of it separately.
But generally, it's like Chamberlain said, the DS Castlevanias are good games that cannot be found elsewhere, I'd rather be playing games like those on a TV and standard controller.
Opty: Why couldn't the DS Castlevania games be made and released for Xbox Live Arcade, for example?
Good 2-D games in general are hard to find nowadays.
I don't think there's anything stopping Konami from working on XBLA, but you also have to keep in mind the development landscape in Japan; a ridiculous explosion of DSes and PSPs, and home consoles are limping along in comparison. Even then, I'm under the impression a lot of the same sprites have been reused between the various DS Castlevanias, whereas Konami would have to create all-new assets for XBLA, effectively spending way more money for way less exposure.
Like, there's really nothing that would preclude having an awesome console Advance Wars or 2-D Castlevania, but I think it all boils down to publisher and developer confidence, mixed with not wanting to rock the boat. If they have success on portables, why not stay on portables? As far as a next-gen GBA player, I don't think Nintendo would be okay with a device that lets you play some DS games on the Wii but not all of them; the PSP could probably just use the PS3 as a dongle, and I frankly don't know why it doesn't already.
I am in the same boat (or couch). I love my DS and some of the RPGs on it have been the best this Gen, but for a device that was originally designed for portable gaming I don't really play it outside of my living room :P.
I wonder what number of people who own handhelds really only play them at home?
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This. I play my DS Probably 5x as much as I do my 360 or PC (And no I'm not exaggerating) and this is mostly at home even. There's just something I love about handhelds, and I tend to feel a console game has to be amazing for me to not only justify it's price, but that time being glued to the T.V. as well. This is largely why I have 30+ DS games, but only 8 360 games.
In fact I can think of probably 7 or 8 DS games I know for a fact I will buy later this year, but only one 360 game I will be getting for sure (Brutal Legend).
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And then I proceed to not finish about half of them.
So for that reason, I'm cool with handhelds. I do love to play games on a console, and am party to the thought that a new console Metroidvania or 2D Sonic game would be good because it's on a bigger screen, but I don't mind the smaller experience. My only grievance was that until recently, it was the only place you could get most of those types of games that I liked. On the other hand, without them, there might not have been any at all.
Controls don't bother me, save for forced stuff like the stylus-only Star Fox Command controls, but that's not the fault of being portable.
Before I received a PSP as a gift, I did hope that the PS3 would have a way to play UMDs on the bigger screen, but that was more because I didn't own a PS2, either, so getting a console that would allow me to play PS2, PS3, and PSP games would have been a tremendous value for me, even at $600. Of course, once I got the PSP, that concern actually faded.
But my parents wouldn't let me have a Game Boy when I was growing up, so I'm enjoying portable gaming a lot more now. And it makes long bus rides, subway trips, doctor's waits, bus stops, and other would-be boring time much more tolerable. So I enjoy having them.
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Not the game selection, mind you; the DS has an ungodly amount of great games, and the PSP also has enough great games to differentiate it. I've owned both at different times; the Ace Attorney games and some of the Nintendo first-party stuff were the reason I bought a DS, and I bought a PSP solely for Rock Band Unplugged. I sold the DS and I'm pretty near selling the PSP; I just never play it anymore.
I live ten minutes from work, so my daily commute is a personal car ride. I can't play games at work. The only time I can play games is when I'm at home, usually here at my desk...situated right next to my computer and a big ass HDTV. I find the controls for both handhelds unpleasant, and it's a pain in the ass craning my neck down to look at them. Of course, there are games on the DS that simply wouldn't work on a TV, but Elite Beat Agents aside, those aren't the types of games I play. I long for a console Ace Attorney and Rock Band Unplugged, though it will likely never happen.
My fingers are too long and I tend to get corperal tunnel and my fingers go numb after 15 minutes of play on my psp / ds.
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It's a short cable, too. I have a 65" TV and I'd have to used extensions just to play it at a distance that won't make me more blind.
As noted, the PSP has component cables that allow you top game on your TV.
As for the DS, I don't think many people have a touch-screen television.
I don't understand this complaint. If you had a large screen it wouldn't be portable.
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Okay I'll give you this one, but even then, the PSP and DSi aren't entirely uncomfortable. Accessories exist to remedy this problem to an extent.
I'd like to see you play Kirby: Canvas Curse on a TV. Wouldn't work out so well.
It doesn't hurt to relax on your couch to play a handheld. You don't necessarily need to be in a car, yes.
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I guess but the effect is the same here. Want to play the handheld games, just not on the handheld.
Why would anyone want to do that?
I don't think the OP cares much that it's portable, nor do I, or I guess many other people who happen to love the system but only use it at home.
Because presumably, the games are good enough to play on their own merit. Not as a reponse to "Meh, I'm sitting on a bus with nothing better to do, might as well do something to kill dead time."
So you hate playing games on it, unless you really enjoy the game you're playing?
I'm poking fun, but you're leaving yourself really open to ridicule here. Handhelds clearly just Aren't For You, especially if you don't get any use out of the portable aspect of them. But suffice to say that if you're going to bring up the "squinting at a small screen," "cramping my neck" or "straining my hands" arguments, I'll follow up with a question: Do you hate books and magazines too?
As someone who owns a DS, PSP and iPhone—and probably ends up with way more time on them than my Wii or 360—I politely disagree. Even couch gaming is nice on a handheld, because you can tinker around while your wife watches TV, or pick it up for five minutes and then put it down when you have to go to something else.
This is my exact feeling about it too. Weird.
I, for one, hate anything that is portable. Even books and magazines. When at home I opt to read them on a podium for the maximum unportability.
Because there quite a few excellent handheld games that would translate well onto their big brothers. I am looking at you, DS Castlevanias.
I do wonder how many people buy DSes specifically for the portability.
This is basically my experience. Back when I was in college I used my GBA constantly. Nowadays since I just drive to work I don't have the will/time to use my DS. I feel kinda bad that I bought Valkyrie Profile for DS and haven't made any real progress in 2 months.
Uh, a book is nothing compared to a handheld, that is a pretty retarded statement. Some of you guys aren't getting the fact that he likes the games that are on the handheld, he just wants another way of playing them. There are alot of unique games on the ds/psp that you won't find on a console.
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But handheld stuff is all about matching specific hardware with the software. I dunno, emulated handheld stuff sucks.
I'm referring to the classic complaint that playing on a handheld forces people to crane their necks in strange positions. If you have trouble reading something that you're holding in your hands without hurting yourself, the problem exists outside of gaming.
I don't really disagree with the broader statement—I'd have no qualms with a DS or PSP player, a la the Gamecube GBA player, though half of the DS games wouldn't work—but I guess I don't understand why people find portables uncomfortable. I mean, unless you're playing Metroid Prime Hunters or Monster Hunter.
While this may have been true some time ago, Handheld games are now at the level of quality somewhere between the PS1/N64 and dreamcast, and budgets for many handheld titles have been rising steadily, with some rather amazing results coming out of it (like the PSP God of War, or the DS final Fantasy remakes).
I would love playing some of these on the big screen, as I too rarely get any non-iPhone handheld gaming in.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Handhelds can be used when you're at home. You're not making your HDTV useless by sitting and playing a handheld as home. Find a comfy chair or couch and play the damned game; if you're craining your neck or getting hurt or whatever then you're doing it wrong.
In my case, it's my hands. For standard DS use, two fingers on each finger hang awkwardly down past the bottom of the system, and the stylus is just way too short. Granted, I could get a longer stylus, and then have to keep track of it separately.
But generally, it's like Chamberlain said, the DS Castlevanias are good games that cannot be found elsewhere, I'd rather be playing games like those on a TV and standard controller.
Opty: Why couldn't the DS Castlevania games be made and released for Xbox Live Arcade, for example?
People who hate handhelds are not gonna convince the others that handhelds suck. And people who like them will not convince the haters.
Good 2-D games in general are hard to find nowadays.
I don't think there's anything stopping Konami from working on XBLA, but you also have to keep in mind the development landscape in Japan; a ridiculous explosion of DSes and PSPs, and home consoles are limping along in comparison. Even then, I'm under the impression a lot of the same sprites have been reused between the various DS Castlevanias, whereas Konami would have to create all-new assets for XBLA, effectively spending way more money for way less exposure.
Like, there's really nothing that would preclude having an awesome console Advance Wars or 2-D Castlevania, but I think it all boils down to publisher and developer confidence, mixed with not wanting to rock the boat. If they have success on portables, why not stay on portables? As far as a next-gen GBA player, I don't think Nintendo would be okay with a device that lets you play some DS games on the Wii but not all of them; the PSP could probably just use the PS3 as a dongle, and I frankly don't know why it doesn't already.
I am in the same boat (or couch). I love my DS and some of the RPGs on it have been the best this Gen, but for a device that was originally designed for portable gaming I don't really play it outside of my living room :P.
I wonder what number of people who own handhelds really only play them at home?
This. I play my DS Probably 5x as much as I do my 360 or PC (And no I'm not exaggerating) and this is mostly at home even. There's just something I love about handhelds, and I tend to feel a console game has to be amazing for me to not only justify it's price, but that time being glued to the T.V. as well. This is largely why I have 30+ DS games, but only 8 360 games.
In fact I can think of probably 7 or 8 DS games I know for a fact I will buy later this year, but only one 360 game I will be getting for sure (Brutal Legend).
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