I thought drones (regular drones, at least) were just that...unmanned drones. Wasn't that supposed to be part of the explanation for Gallente using them so much? To minimize loss of life?
I mean, it's not like it matters, but I coulda swore that was, at least when I played, part of even the little Gallente blurbs during character creation.
I thought drones (regular drones, at least) were just that...unmanned drones. Wasn't that supposed to be part of the explanation for Gallente using them so much? To minimize loss of life?
I mean, it's not like it matters, but I coulda swore that was, at least when I played, part of even the little Gallente blurbs during character creation.
Drones are machines, although I wouldn't rule out the Amarr ones being servitors. FOR THE EMPEROR!
Best way to adequately reconcile the fact that fighters can warp way out of range of their control ship and chase enemies into warp when normal drones can't was to say that they aren't remotely controlled, they're piloted... just not by capsulers. Fighters and fighter bombers are the size of frigates in-game.
Fighters and fighter bombers are the size of frigates in-game.
Frigs are that small? Based on what must be the command area on many of them I figured they were quite a bit larger than what I see in those pictures up there.
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chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Fighters and fighter bombers are the size of frigates in-game.
Frigs are that small? Based on what must be the command area on many of them I figured they were quite a bit larger than what I see in those pictures up there.
Consider: The Malleus bomber is 70 meters long on it's long axis.
The Amarrian Frigs are (according to the in-game viewer):
Crucifier - 78 meters
Executioner - 26 meters
Inquisitor - 41 meters
Magnate - 98 meters
Punisher - 80 meters
Tormentor - 61 meters
Amarr Shuttle - 40 meters
Do I think it possible that the frigates have a crew for story purposes? Some of them, yes. Do I think that Kirith at EVE-Tribune overestimates the crews? Oh yeah. I think a lot of the frigs are more like the Moldy Crow (with a cockpit++) rather then the Serenity (a house with engines).
The Executioner for example is JUST a pod with engines. At an overall length of 26 meters that means the central pod is no more then 10 meters, and your player capsule is already about the size of a yugo to begin with. The best metric I've come up with is that if you look at the Heron... the cockpit and hull behind the cockpit is about the same size and general shape as a Star Tours ride...
It says 70 meters, but it is quite clearly not 70 meters. 70 meters is 229.659 feet.
While I agree that it is probably not 70 meters tall (longest axis is unquestionably vertical), and that the numbers from the test server can change, I do think it's at least 30 meters tall based on the visual.
And you don't need to explain distance reckoning to me. I use the yard=meter approximation, which works fine enough for grasping how big something is in relation to a football field.
Edit Edit: Regardless of how bit it actually is, the Amarr Fighter Bomber is dead fucking sexy.
Yes. The Gallente one isn't bad either. Caldari one kinda reminds me of the Medusa bomber, where the Amarr one definitely takes after the Hercules II and the Myrmidon.
GTB Medusa
GTF Hercules II
GTF Myrmidon
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That part wasn't directed at you, just a general statement for those who don't grok metric.
Edit: And I usually do 3 meters to 10 feet. It is a little bit closer.
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But yeah, CCP's art assets department is definitely the star of the show for this patch.
They honestly are every patch. When you have a spaceship game that is filled mostly with empty space, you can make the effort to have everything really pretty and shiny. Its too bad the UI is so horrible that the majority of players play with most of the screen taken up with various windows and you have to play the game itself windowed so you can watch porn or whatever while you do the necessary boring things that allow those moments of fun.
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edited November 2009
So I have to say, training Contacts a few levels really gave me quite a boost with agent standings. I went from qualifying for a level 1 quality 9 agent to a level 1 quality 17 agent with just a few minutes training.
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So I have to say, training Contacts a few levels really gave me quite a boost with agent standings. I went from qualifying for a level 1 quality 9 agent to a level 1 quality 17 agent with just a few minutes training.
You mean Connections?
And yes, any mission runner should have Social 4/Connections 4, at a bare minimum.
So I have to say, training Contacts a few levels really gave me quite a boost with agent standings. I went from qualifying for a level 1 quality 9 agent to a level 1 quality 17 agent with just a few minutes training.
You mean Connections?
And yes, any mission runner should have Social 4/Connections 4, at a bare minimum.
You need Criminal Connections instead of Connections if you're running pirate missions in 0.0. But yeah, without at least a few levels in Connections/Criminal Connections the Level 1 -> Level 2 grind is almost impossible.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
So I have to say, training Contacts a few levels really gave me quite a boost with agent standings. I went from qualifying for a level 1 quality 9 agent to a level 1 quality 17 agent with just a few minutes training.
You mean Connections?
And yes, any mission runner should have Social 4/Connections 4, at a bare minimum.
You need Criminal Connections instead of Connections if you're running pirate missions in 0.0.
So I have to say, training Contacts a few levels really gave me quite a boost with agent standings. I went from qualifying for a level 1 quality 9 agent to a level 1 quality 17 agent with just a few minutes training.
You mean Connections?
And yes, any mission runner should have Social 4/Connections 4, at a bare minimum.
You need Criminal Connections instead of Connections if you're running pirate missions in 0.0.
Which almost no one does, but yah, good advice.
It's one of the few things you can do completely solo as a newbie in 0.0, so it helps pass the time between ops and pay the bills. Salvaging & scavaging are more lucrative, but don't really work if you're playing at ridiculous times when few people are ratting.
So I have to say, training Contacts a few levels really gave me quite a boost with agent standings. I went from qualifying for a level 1 quality 9 agent to a level 1 quality 17 agent with just a few minutes training.
You mean Connections?
And yes, any mission runner should have Social 4/Connections 4, at a bare minimum.
You need Criminal Connections instead of Connections if you're running pirate missions in 0.0.
Which almost no one does, but yah, good advice.
It's one of the few things you can do completely solo as a newbie in 0.0, so it helps pass the time between ops and pay the bills. Salvaging & scavaging are more lucrative, but don't really work if you're playing at ridiculous times when few people are ratting.
Be prepared to run into a gate camp every once in a while if you are running 0.0 missions.
Death will come.
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Assuming they don't bother fixing risk/reward, I'll probably end up running missions in 0.0 cause the Blood Raider BS is worth a shit ton of ISK and I could grind one up every couple of weeks if I wanted. The cost of losing a few shitty BSs in the process will barely dent the profit from a single bhaalgorn worth over a billion ISK.
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Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence --Thomas Jefferson
Honortanked Stabber meets an Ishkur. Results were as one would expect. Now let's go to the weather.
Logic doesn't have much to do with my reaction to getting killed by a 1-man assfrigate gate camp.
P.S. If you want to try fleet fights and aren't in MerchI, now is a perfect time to join. Looks like GS is getting invaded.
P.P.S. Fleet fights are awesome. Even if they make my laptop make funny noises.
Honortanked Stabber meets an Ishkur. Results were as one would expect. Now let's go to the weather.
Logic doesn't have much to do with my reaction to getting killed by a 1-man assfrigate gate camp.
P.S. If you want to try fleet fights and aren't in MerchI, now is a perfect time to join. Looks like GS is getting invaded.
P.P.S. Fleet fights are awesome. Even if they make my laptop make funny noises.
Noooo goddamnit, I feel the pull. I don't have the time for this shit!
Looks like PL and SoT are going to be first. IT's beatdown of them in Erdoo tonight was impressive. It's going to be an interesting couple of months starting in December.
IT has been recruiting every empire corp they could for the last month and I doubt they'll have any backbone.
I remember geminate, which was the first campaign I'd been involved in where we were outblobbed, but still won battles because we were actually better than smash-kill. That was a shock
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hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
I can't wait for the new patch so I can spend fewer iskies to buy a mommyship for my toon.
hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
I can't wait for the new patch so I can spend fewer iskies to buy a mommyship for my toon.
You going to buy a Nyxie? I hear those new torpie bombers are pretty sweet.
hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
i am sorry i just short handed it i was busy i was serious out it
hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
i am sorry i just short handed it i was busy i was serious out it
hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
i am sorry i just short handed it i was busy i was serious out it
welp eve is full of smug pricks like me the game abhors weakness and stupidity and gives those so inclined the ability to prey on idiots if you arent someones friend you are probably their source of income aside from that what specifically do you want to know
hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
i am sorry i just short handed it i was busy i was serious out it
welp eve is full of smug pricks like me the game abhors weakness and stupidity and gives those so inclined the ability to prey on idiots if you arent someones friend you are probably their source of income aside from that what specifically do you want to know
I think what he actually wants to know about is buttes.
hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
i am sorry i just short handed it i was busy i was serious out it
welp eve is full of smug pricks like me the game abhors weakness and stupidity and gives those so inclined the ability to prey on idiots if you arent someones friend you are probably their source of income aside from that what specifically do you want to know
I think what he actually wants to know about is buttes.
And dongues. Don't forget about the dongues.
B-ROCK-22, check all the topics that interest you:
[ ] buttes
[ ] dongues
[ ] hyperbuttes
hello guys i was wondering what it is like to play EVE and if i like what i hear can i join you guys plz tell me something i have heard good things about eve
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
i am sorry i just short handed it i was busy i was serious out it
welp eve is full of smug pricks like me the game abhors weakness and stupidity and gives those so inclined the ability to prey on idiots if you arent someones friend you are probably their source of income aside from that what specifically do you want to know
I think what he actually wants to know about is buttes.
And dongues. Don't forget about the dongues.
B-ROCK-22, check all the topics that interest you:
[x] buttes
[x] dongues
[x] hyperbuttes
So Deep crows has thus far not been a particuarly intersting experience. I've basically been playing solo except for the 3 times someone else has actually been on .
Do you think its likely that any more UK time zone spies shall be joining Deep crows after Dominion? Or should i start preparing an app for MerchI to shoot down in flames ?
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I mean, it's not like it matters, but I coulda swore that was, at least when I played, part of even the little Gallente blurbs during character creation.
Drones are machines, although I wouldn't rule out the Amarr ones being servitors. FOR THE EMPEROR!
Best way to adequately reconcile the fact that fighters can warp way out of range of their control ship and chase enemies into warp when normal drones can't was to say that they aren't remotely controlled, they're piloted... just not by capsulers. Fighters and fighter bombers are the size of frigates in-game.
Frigs are that small? Based on what must be the command area on many of them I figured they were quite a bit larger than what I see in those pictures up there.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Consider: The Malleus bomber is 70 meters long on it's long axis.
The Amarrian Frigs are (according to the in-game viewer):
Crucifier - 78 meters
Executioner - 26 meters
Inquisitor - 41 meters
Magnate - 98 meters
Punisher - 80 meters
Tormentor - 61 meters
Amarr Shuttle - 40 meters
Do I think it possible that the frigates have a crew for story purposes? Some of them, yes. Do I think that Kirith at EVE-Tribune overestimates the crews? Oh yeah. I think a lot of the frigs are more like the Moldy Crow (with a cockpit++) rather then the Serenity (a house with engines).
The Executioner for example is JUST a pod with engines. At an overall length of 26 meters that means the central pod is no more then 10 meters, and your player capsule is already about the size of a yugo to begin with. The best metric I've come up with is that if you look at the Heron... the cockpit and hull behind the cockpit is about the same size and general shape as a Star Tours ride...
Edit: ITT we talk about inconsistencies of scale.
Edit Edit: Regardless of how bit it actually is, the Amarr Fighter Bomber is dead fucking sexy.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
While I agree that it is probably not 70 meters tall (longest axis is unquestionably vertical), and that the numbers from the test server can change, I do think it's at least 30 meters tall based on the visual.
And you don't need to explain distance reckoning to me. I use the yard=meter approximation, which works fine enough for grasping how big something is in relation to a football field.
Yes. The Gallente one isn't bad either. Caldari one kinda reminds me of the Medusa bomber, where the Amarr one definitely takes after the Hercules II and the Myrmidon.
GTB Medusa
GTF Hercules II
GTF Myrmidon
Edit: And I usually do 3 meters to 10 feet. It is a little bit closer.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
But yeah, CCP's art assets department is definitely the star of the show for this patch.
They honestly are every patch. When you have a spaceship game that is filled mostly with empty space, you can make the effort to have everything really pretty and shiny. Its too bad the UI is so horrible that the majority of players play with most of the screen taken up with various windows and you have to play the game itself windowed so you can watch porn or whatever while you do the necessary boring things that allow those moments of fun.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
You mean Connections?
And yes, any mission runner should have Social 4/Connections 4, at a bare minimum.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
You need Criminal Connections instead of Connections if you're running pirate missions in 0.0. But yeah, without at least a few levels in Connections/Criminal Connections the Level 1 -> Level 2 grind is almost impossible.
Which almost no one does, but yah, good advice.
It's one of the few things you can do completely solo as a newbie in 0.0, so it helps pass the time between ops and pay the bills. Salvaging & scavaging are more lucrative, but don't really work if you're playing at ridiculous times when few people are ratting.
Be prepared to run into a gate camp every once in a while if you are running 0.0 missions.
Death will come.
You mean like this? Or this? Or even this?
0.0 is fun
So I guess I'm not alone
Assuming they don't bother fixing risk/reward, I'll probably end up running missions in 0.0 cause the Blood Raider BS is worth a shit ton of ISK and I could grind one up every couple of weeks if I wanted. The cost of losing a few shitty BSs in the process will barely dent the profit from a single bhaalgorn worth over a billion ISK.
What's with the "or even"?
Medium Shield Booster I
Medium Shield Extender I
Honortanked Stabber meets an Ishkur. Results were as one would expect. Now let's go to the weather.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Logic doesn't have much to do with my reaction to getting killed by a 1-man assfrigate gate camp.
P.S. If you want to try fleet fights and aren't in MerchI, now is a perfect time to join. Looks like GS is getting invaded.
P.P.S. Fleet fights are awesome. Even if they make my laptop make funny noises.
Noooo goddamnit, I feel the pull. I don't have the time for this shit!
Looks like PL and SoT are going to be first. IT's beatdown of them in Erdoo tonight was impressive. It's going to be an interesting couple of months starting in December.
I remember geminate, which was the first campaign I'd been involved in where we were outblobbed, but still won battles because we were actually better than smash-kill. That was a shock
EvE is the sort of game that rewards proper capitalization and punctuation.
I can't wait for the new patch so I can spend fewer iskies to buy a mommyship for my toon.
You going to buy a Nyxie? I hear those new torpie bombers are pretty sweet.
i am sorry i just short handed it i was busy i was serious out it
And the hilarity continues!
Holy crap dude, are you even trying?
welp eve is full of smug pricks like me the game abhors weakness and stupidity and gives those so inclined the ability to prey on idiots if you arent someones friend you are probably their source of income aside from that what specifically do you want to know
I think what he actually wants to know about is buttes.
And dongues. Don't forget about the dongues.
B-ROCK-22, check all the topics that interest you:
[ ] buttes
[ ] dongues
[ ] hyperbuttes
Oh wait, you were talking to B-ROCK-22
Do you think its likely that any more UK time zone spies shall be joining Deep crows after Dominion? Or should i start preparing an app for MerchI to shoot down in flames