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Welfare. I feel dirty for even thinking about it.
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So, in the time I've been in Portland (since the last week of May to now) I have had zero luck getting a job. I'm running low on funds and a suggestion has come up that I go on welfare. And I'm feeling... well, I have pride in some regards and it's being hit pretty hard right now. That isn't necessarily what this thread is about though. Fact of the matter is I need money to live and pay for rent and this is the one option open because not even McDonald's is fucking hiring in this city.
I'm gonna look up where I need to go tonight and head out Monday to get this done. But I wanna go in prepared knowing what to expect, and want to know if there's any sort of curveballs or requirements I need to know now. What papers / documents am I going to need going in and such.
I'm gonna look up where I need to go tonight and head out Monday to get this done. But I wanna go in prepared knowing what to expect, and want to know if there's any sort of curveballs or requirements I need to know now. What papers / documents am I going to need going in and such.
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Plus you can mark down that you're recieving it on applications, and employers get bonus money for hiring you.
I would bring in the last paystubs, maybe medical records (if you can't remember everything about yourself), and ID.
It's not all sunshine and roses but their aim is to get you working and back off it, so as long as you work with them you should be fine in no time
And while I've been incredibly lucky during this here recession (i.e. I still have my job), I wouldn't hesitate to go on welfare if it came down to it. Don't feel ashamed, man!
Can you elaborate on this part?
What sort of work are you looking for?
Expect to queue a lot. Expect forms that may not make sense. Check if your state has some kind of 'you must apply for x jobs per week and keep a logbook' kind of deal. Being on a jobseekers' allowance may actually allow you to access some employment opportunities you might not otherwise have heard about, too. Just don't be picky about jobs - you're not looking for a career right now, and what you do wind up doing doesn't have to be your life.
I had a friend who worked at the Social Security Administration (not the same thing, but similar idea) who told me how often people came in with nothing, no documentation at all, and expected miracles to happen. Then there were people who had everything ready, organized, labelled. Guess who got their benefits first.
Good luck, man. I know it's a blow to your pride, but I agree with The Cat...you've done your part, and you need some help right now. Hell, I've been lucky, never had to go for welfare, but my wife and I did have to borrow a bunch of money from our parents to help us sell our condo.
Yes, you read that right. We had to borrow money to get rid of a condo. Falling property values suck.
The thing to keep in mind is this: just because you're going on the dole doesn't mean you will be lazy, shiftless and useless. Keep up your job hunt, and now you can do it more effectively because you won't be worried about where the next meal is coming from.
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Begging off family or friends for example.
Welfare is every tax-payer's right and privilege.
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She's horribly depressed now, and my brothers don't give a shit. Fucking cunts.
If it wasn't designed this way there would be way too many people abusing it.
There are plenty of people abusing welfare. The OP has a legitimate need and doesn't have to feel guilty. It's not like he's trying to deal drugs and use welfare to buy the baking soda.
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I agree that yes, there are people who are abusing it anyway, but its intended as a method of reducing the number of people who do. And no, he doesn't need to feel guilty about it since this is what it was intended for, but ultimately he will still feel somewhat negatively towards it, whether due to lack of financial independence or guilt.
No offense here but having in my previous life been on every form of government assistance (food stamps WIC etc) I can say this is a lie. A college professor I had put it best. "Welfare is designed to keep poor people poor"
And from somebody who was also on every form of assistance, it seemed that they were hell bent on figuring out how to get us off it.
It got better after Clinton stopped the generational welfare, but we do still have people and communities that glorify being on it, going so far as to shun people who get off of it.
It's as if you get punished by the system you still need when you start to get on your feet. Hence many people get trapped in the system and never get out because honestly half the time its easier to keep collecting checks than get a crummy job that pays less than the benefits you have been getting.
Anyhow, yes use the damn system. As someone who has used it and paid my taxes I'm sure we'd rather it see go towards helping someone out than some politicians pocket.
In Kansas the entire system is run online, and, after using the website for more than 1/2 a second, there is no way Kansas is leading the front on this digital edge.
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This terrifies me. I'll find out in the morning though. :?
Pretty much this, I didn't feel bad and applied, turns out we made too much, but man, that is what those programs are for. To help you get back to where you don't need it anymore.
If you have any detailed questions, PM me. I work for the State of Alaska public assistance, and though it's not exactly the same, we follow a lot of the same requirements. In all likelyhood you will only be eligible for Food Stamps (or SNAP if they've made the transition yet, same thing, different name) and possibly Medicaid depending on your age.
Most programs are geared towards families or persons with disabilities, with few exceptions. Unemployment is a whole different ball game. It's an insurance you pay into that is yours for the taking, and not considered a "needs based income". To look into unemployment insurance, you'll need to go to your local department of labor Unemployment branch.
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While I failed to ask in the PM I just fired off, what is SNAP?
Also, this is for anyone really; when it comes to public aid like this sort of thing (Foodstamps, Welfare, Unemployment), what exactly are the terms for paying everything back? Fyrewulff mentioned being the government's bitch without elaborating.
They changed the name because the program doesn't use stamps anymore.
Also, none of the programs you mention have any payback terms. you don't have to pay anything back.
What? How do they get money to fund these programs then? I was totally expecting to have to pay something back.
Your tax dollars. That's why you shouldn't feel bad about it.
The government bitch thing cannot be explained, only experienced.
I'm half-joking.
I was on unemployment for several months a few years ago. It provided me the necessary funds to eat while I got my shit together. I used the time that it bought me to rally and get a decent job that helped me move into a career path that I love and am excited about.
Pretty much everyone suffers setbacks in their lives. Failing shouldn't make you feel dirty. It's what you do when you fail that really matters.
Or to put it in the words of my ancient somewhat senile High School latin teacher "Success is never ending. Failure is never final"
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Welfare, food stamps, unemployment, and all those other programs exist for a reason. The reason is not a desire to encourage failure or uselessness. Rather, the reason is a recognition that employment status is not so stable or meritocratic as people would like to believe.
Maybe lightning hit the store your work at and now your boss has to fire you because he needs all his money to repair the place. Do you deserve to starve to death now?
Maybe the recession struck and your company had to downsize. Should you starve because you opted to work for a company that eventually had to downsize rather than a company that didn't?
Even the most meritocratic processes on a sociological level are often quite chaotic and unfair on an individual level. Society has developed enough to recognize that. Welfare isn't the sort of safety net that sends the message "you're useless and you best know we're the only thing keeping your sorry ass alive". It sends the message of "damn, sorry you're out of a job, any one of us could be in your same position for any of a million reasons, here's some money so that one unfortunate circumstance doesn't ruin the rest of your life".
Life's unfair. Society is around to control for some of that unfairness.
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what kind of aid program would be a way to get you in debt? yech. fyrewull likely referred to requirements that you either work in a gov't program or be actively seeking employment.