PS3 RPGs

Ryadic

So, lately I've been having a craving for an epic RPG. "Spring 2010" is just too far away to wait for FFXIII, which will probably be the game I'm truly craving.

I have Oblivion and am waiting for the GOTY edition of Fallout 3 to drop, but in the meantime I'm looking for an epic game that's going to take around 50 hours to beat, has a very engaging story, and a unique battle system.

I've not really been keeping up with PS3 releases lately, so most RPGs have just kind of slipped by unnoticed. To my knowledge though, no really great ones have been released on the system.

I would actually prefer something very much "Final Fantasy-esque" than "Elder Scrolls-esque". I want the party of characters fighting monsters from time to time. Turned based battle system would be right up my alley, as well. I didn't care much for the FFXII battle system.

We can also use this thread to discuss RPGs in general, since I don't see a thread for it.

Moioink

Have you played Valkyria Chronicles? If not you should.

Slim pickings otherwise I'm afraid. Eternal Sonata is somewhat competent I guess but most seem to find it a bit insipid.

bsjezz

if you can beat demon's souls in fifty hours i'll give you fifty bucks

Diarmuid

Yeah, there's not much on the PS3 RPG-wise right now.
Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles are the best available at the moment, neither of them seem to be what you're looking for though.

edit: However, they are both fantastic and you should play them anyway.

Rent

Ryadic wrote: »

...I'm looking for an epic game that's going to take around 50 hours to beat, has a very engaging story, and a unique battle system...

I've not really been keeping up with PS3 releases lately, so most RPGs have just kind of slipped by unnoticed.... To my knowledge though, no really great ones have been released on the system....

I would actually prefer something very much "Final Fantasy-esque"...
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GET VALKYRIA CHRONICLES

NOW

RIGHT FUCKING NOW

IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOU ARE WRONG, YOU SHOULD BE IN THE ACT OF DRIVING TO YOUR VIDEOGAME STORE OF PREFERENCE AND GETTING VALKYRIA CHRONICLES

Visti

*waits for someone to lime that*

vagrant_winds

Well, here's a list of options. Italics are upcoming games either not out, or not out in English yet. Let me know if I missed anything.

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Multi-Platform
Dragon Age: Orgins (also on PC)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (also on PC)
Enchanted Arms (PS3 has enhanced version)
Fallout 3 (also on PC)
Eternal Sonata (PS3 has enhanced version)
Final Fantasy XIII
Resonance of Fate [aka End of Eternity in Japan]
Star Ocean IV: The Last Hope (PS3 has enhanced version [PS3 international version out in February])
Tales of Vesperia (PS3 has enhanced version [PS3 localization hasn't been "officially" announced yet])
Vandal Hearts: Flames of Judgment

PS3 Exclusive
Atelier Rorona
Argrest Senki (360 version Japan-only)
Cross Edge (360 version Japan-only)
Demon's Souls
Disgaea 3
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Folklore
Valkyria Chronicles
White Knight Chronicles
White Knight Chronicles 2: Awakening of Light and Darkness

360 Exclusive [for Reference]
Blue Dragon
Fable II
Infinite Undiscovery
The Last Remnant (PC has a far superior director's cut/remake)
Lost Odyessey
Magna Carta 2
Mass Effect (also on PC)
Mass Effect 2 (also on PC)
Operation Darkness
Spectral Force 3

vagrant_winds

Visti wrote: »

*waits for someone to lime that*

Rent wrote: »

GET VALKYRIA CHRONICLES

NOW

RIGHT FUCKING NOW

IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOU ARE WRONG, YOU SHOULD BE IN THE ACT OF DRIVING TO YOUR VIDEOGAME STORE OF PREFERENCE AND GETTING VALKYRIA CHRONICLES

Antihippy

Rent wrote: »

Ryadic wrote: »

...I'm looking for an epic game that's going to take around 50 hours to beat, has a very engaging story, and a unique battle system...

I've not really been keeping up with PS3 releases lately, so most RPGs have just kind of slipped by unnoticed.... To my knowledge though, no really great ones have been released on the system....

I would actually prefer something very much "Final Fantasy-esque"...
.

GET VALKYRIA CHRONICLES

NOW

RIGHT FUCKING NOW

IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOU ARE WRONG, YOU SHOULD BE IN THE ACT OF DRIVING TO YOUR VIDEOGAME STORE OF PREFERENCE AND GETTING VALKYRIA CHRONICLES

edit: damn you vagrant winds!

darkenedwing

I have never seen so much truth in one limed phrase before.
Walmart has Valkyria Chronicles for $20, but if you can't find it there then just pay the $40 for it wherever else, it is 100% worth it.

Ryadic

Rent wrote: »

Ryadic wrote: »

...I'm looking for an epic game that's going to take around 50 hours to beat, has a very engaging story, and a unique battle system...

I've not really been keeping up with PS3 releases lately, so most RPGs have just kind of slipped by unnoticed.... To my knowledge though, no really great ones have been released on the system....

I would actually prefer something very much "Final Fantasy-esque"...
.

GET VALKYRIA CHRONICLES

NOW

RIGHT FUCKING NOW

IF YOU ARE READING THIS YOU ARE WRONG, YOU SHOULD BE IN THE ACT OF DRIVING TO YOUR VIDEOGAME STORE OF PREFERENCE AND GETTING VALKYRIA CHRONICLES

If I left now I'd get fired.

The guy at Gamestop said this was probably the best RPG for PS3, but that it's hard to find. He says they rarely get copies anymore.

I'll keep an eye out for it, though.

As far as Enchanted Arms goes, I've heard bad things about it. If you think it's good, going to have to talk it up for me.

Is Eternal Sonata out yet? The guy at Gamestop said it is coming out soon.

Demon's Souls looks good, but not quite what I'm looking for. I'll probably pick it up, but when it's at a lower price. Atlus makes a lot of good games.

Rent

darkenedwing wrote: »

I have never seen so much truth in one limed phrase before.
Walmart has Valkyria Chronicles for $20, but if you can't find it there then just pay the $40 for it wherever else, it is 100% worth it.

It's funny because most of the time whenever someone makes one of these "good PS3 games" threads, I always post the whole "GET VALKY CHRONICLES NOW" in big ol' red letters, because I'm kind of a douche
(but it's for a good cause! right?)

But seriously ryadic described valkyria chronicles, pretty much to a t, without knowing about it

It's insane when you think about it

darkenedwing

Ryadic wrote: »

If I left now I'd get fired.

The guy at Gamestop said this was probably the best RPG for PS3, but that it's hard to find. He says they rarely get copies anymore.

I'll keep an eye out for it, though.

As far as Enchanted Arms goes, I've heard bad things about it. If you think it's good, going to have to talk it up for me.

Is Eternal Sonata out yet? The guy at Gamestop said it is coming out soon.

Demon's Souls looks good, but not quite what I'm looking for. I'll probably pick it up, but when it's at a lower price. Atlus makes a lot of good games.

Its actually developed by From Software, I believe, the people who make the Armored Core series.

Rent

Eternal Sonata sucks and is bad. Good music though

That Star Ocean game you might like though (did that come out on PS3)?

Edit: I'm told the official VC thread helps people want VC, and the OP is supposedly awesome (it got reported for it anyway)

The OP is such a swell guy, I'm told. And he's awesome in bed

vagrant_winds

Rent wrote: »

That Star Ocean game you might like though (did that come out on PS3)?

The PS3 International Version (Japanese/English voices, Japanese/English/French/German/Spanish text) releases in Japan and North America February 9th and Europe February 12th.

Gyral

Man, people really need to place a caveat with any Star Ocean 4 recommendation. The gameplay is all right, but my god is the story tedious high-school level writing and cast of characters are pretty much awful. A couple hours into the game, I was just skipping cutscenes and reading the synopsis for an idea of what I should be doing.

And so I'm not totally negative, I would say that when Tales of Vesperia comes out for the PS3, jump on that. I had a lot of fun with that and the main character was pretty likable. Hell it was nice to see a main character who would do the things I would in that kind of world.

Mostlyjoe13

AAGGHH! F'k MY EYES. NO RED FONT! NO RED FONT! Blurry Red Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.

darkenedwing

Mostlyjoe13 wrote: »

AAGGHH! F'k MY EYES. NO RED FONT! NO RED FONT! Blurry Red Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.

Thats how awesome the game is! :P

Ryadic

I loved Star Ocean 2. One of my favorite games of all time. I was so pumped for Star Ocean 3 it was insane. The game sucked. It was terrible. Combat was bad and too difficult at times. Your party was fucking stupid and just stood there and died half the time. Story was also very bland and uninteresting (what little I saw). I got the strategy guide to help me get through it hoping it was going to get better. I played it for about 15 hours total (10 or so with the guide) and it didn't get better.

I highly doubt I'll like 4. I did like the original port to the PSP and the remake for 2 for PSP.

langfor6

VC is pretty great, but not without its flaws. Still, they are trivial and don't really detract from the overall awesomeness of the game.

Although it's not exactly for the PS3, if you really want a traditional RPG fix you could pick up Wild Arms off the PSN if you've never played it. It's cheap and the first one was enjoyable. I can't speak to the rest of the series though.

I defy you to get a platinum trophy in Disgaea 3.

Ryadic

I'm really burnt out on strategy RPGs, really. After playing Tactics, Disgaea 1 and 2, and DnD Tactics on my PSP I think I'm going to need a 10 year break from the genre. I can't do another move/attack again. Curdles my stomach to think of it.

Though I did love those games.

Artereis

Walmart may be your best bet for Valkyria Chronciles. Hello $20

Ryadic

Alright. Hopefully my local Wal-Mart has it.

vagrant_winds

Ryadic wrote: »

I loved Star Ocean 2. One of my favorite games of all time. I was so pumped for Star Ocean 3 it was insane. The game sucked. It was terrible. Combat was bad and too difficult at times. Your party was fucking stupid and just stood there and died half the time. Story was also very bland and uninteresting (what little I saw). I got the strategy guide to help me get through it hoping it was going to get better. I played it for about 15 hours total (10 or so with the guide) and it didn't get better.

I highly doubt I'll like 4. I did like the original port to the PSP and the remake for 2 for PSP.

I never understood how anyone could think Star Ocean 3 had a bad battle system. It has one of the best one's (and most tactically fast paced) I've ever fucking seen still to date. It had it all: Stunlocks, Juggles, Guards that actually mean something and turn the tides of battle, attack combos, etc. And for the record, I was pissed that they took out MP kills in SO4 even with the additions to its battle system (Blidesides, attacking in the middle of jumps, etc).

And the AI was pretty decent in you actually leveled up their AI traits.

The story was love it or hate it though. The plot twist is a great sci-fi conversion of a very common fantasy trope which works for some and doesn't work for others.

langfor6

Ryadic wrote: »

I'm really burnt out on strategy RPGs, really. After playing Tactics, Disgaea 1 and 2, and DnD Tactics on my PSP I think I'm going to need a 10 year break from the genre. I can't do another move/attack again. Curdles my stomach to think of it.

Though I did love those games.

VC is an SRPG, but it's a fresh take on the genre. I also got it for $20 used from a friend who said it was "too easy".

urahonky

SO3 was terribad. I wish I could say it was just bad, but it wasn't. I've tried 3 times to get into it... And each time I make it about 10 hours in and just would rather cut myself than continue.

vagrant_winds

langfor6 wrote: »

VC is an SRPG, but it's a fresh take on the genre. I also got it for $20 used from a friend who said it was "too easy".

It's only "too easy" if you abuse the hell out of Orders.
And the DLC is much harder.

Ryadic

So VC is a strategy RPG?

Dammit... I just can't do it anymore. Thanks for letting me know cause I would've been pissed if I started playing it and found it out.

urahonky

Ryadic wrote: »

So VC is a strategy RPG?

Dammit... I just can't do it anymore. Thanks for letting me know cause I would've been pissed if I started playing it and found it out.

Play the demo. It's what sold me on it.

Diarmuid

Ryadic wrote: »

So VC is a strategy RPG?

Dammit... I just can't do it anymore. Thanks for letting me know cause I would've been pissed if I started playing it and found it out.

It's a completely different kind of strategy game to Disgaea or FFT, just download the demo and you'll see.

Rent

Ryadic wrote: »

So VC is a strategy RPG?

Dammit... I just can't do it anymore. Thanks for letting me know cause I would've been pissed if I started playing it and found it out.

No no, you're not getting out that easily on one of the greatest game experiences for the console

Try the demo, and then tell us it's shit, which you won't

Ryadic

Alright alright, when I get off work I'll play the demo. Doesn't hurt to try it since it's free.

I just hope it's what I'm looking for. Else I'll just go back to playing Oblivion, which is a great game but not what I have the urge to play.

Gyral

urahonky wrote: »

SO3 was terribad. I wish I could say it was just bad, but it wasn't. I've tried 3 times to get into it... And each time I make it about 10 hours in and just would rather cut myself than continue.

Man, I got to disc 2 twice and couldn't make myself finish it. It wasn't the "twist" or the combat, it was the painful story writing and annoying voice acting that did me in.

Ryadic

I'll be honest, though. Star Ocean 2's story has not aged well at all. It's actually kind of bad. But I loved it and I still do.

vagrant_winds

If you SO3 haters also hated TotA, I'll be forced to "agree to disagree" and force myself to not be sad.

urahonky

Gyral wrote: »

urahonky wrote: »

SO3 was terribad. I wish I could say it was just bad, but it wasn't. I've tried 3 times to get into it... And each time I make it about 10 hours in and just would rather cut myself than continue.

Man, I got to disc 2 twice and couldn't make myself finish it. It wasn't the "twist" or the combat, it was the painful story writing and annoying voice acting that did me in.

If you could turn off the VA I would have probably been okay. But the voices were just so fucking bad that it was painful to my ears. I miss the days where you have to read everything.

Frosteey

vagrant_winds wrote: »

Ryadic wrote: »

I loved Star Ocean 2. One of my favorite games of all time. I was so pumped for Star Ocean 3 it was insane. The game sucked. It was terrible. Combat was bad and too difficult at times. Your party was fucking stupid and just stood there and died half the time. Story was also very bland and uninteresting (what little I saw). I got the strategy guide to help me get through it hoping it was going to get better. I played it for about 15 hours total (10 or so with the guide) and it didn't get better.

I highly doubt I'll like 4. I did like the original port to the PSP and the remake for 2 for PSP.

I never understood how anyone could think Star Ocean 3 had a bad battle system. It has one of the best one's (and most tactically fast paced) I've ever fucking seen still to date. It had it all: Stunlocks, Juggles, Guards that actually mean something and turn the tides of battle, attack combos, etc. And for the record, I was pissed that they took out MP kills in SO4 even with the additions to its battle system (Blidesides, attacking in the middle of jumps, etc).

Yeah!!!

Yeah!

Fighting things was so pleasant. And every character (maybe not casters...) played in a different interesting way, and you could customize each to different things even past that.

And the AI was pretty decent in you actually leveled up their AI traits.

The story was love it or hate it though. The plot twist is a great sci-fi conversion of a very common fantasy trope which works for some and doesn't work for others.

Not quite sure I'm completely on board with this. The AI is reasonably competent most of the time if you set them up right, but it was still a pretty cumbersome and inelegant system. Like, you were actually better off just not touching some of the AI Level Enhancement things, sometimes.

For story I pretty much hold it around the same area as Tales games. Which means it's pretty terrible. I think with both series, the best you can really hope for is to just have some characters you can like to some degree, and I generally think both do. Honestly, aside from Sophia and Fayt, I thought Star Ocean 3's were all pretty passable. And even those two aren't even really any worse than the average terrible main couple in a Tales/Star Ocean game.

But really, MP death was so awesome.

Dashui

Whoa, there's a sequel to White Knight Chronicles in the works? They haven't even released the first game in English speaking territories yet.

In any case, I did read it's not too good, although the multiplayer is apparently very Phantasy Star Online-like. That alone may make me want to pick it up.

Dehumanized

If you can't find a copy of VC at a local Walmart (I couldn't, after calling every store within ~25 miles), it shouldn't be too hard to find a copy for ~$30 on the internets.

Unco-ordinated

vagrant_winds wrote: »

Well, here's a list of options. Italics are upcoming games either not out, or not out in English yet. Let me know if I missed anything.

You've missed Alpha Protocol, Fallout: New Vegas, Fable 3, Last Rebellion, Sacred 2 and Penny Arcade Adventures. Also, the Sega Mega Drive Collection is worth checking out. Shining Force 2 and Phantasy Star IV are still some of the best RPG's I've played.

Here's the list with those added in:

Multi-Platform
Alpha Protocol
Dragon Age: Orgins (also on PC)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (also on PC)
Enchanted Arms (PS3 has enhanced version)
Eternal Sonata (PS3 has enhanced version)
Fallout 3 (also on PC)
Fallout: New Vegas
Final Fantasy XIII
Penny Arcade Adventures: Episode One
Penny Arcade Adventures: Episode Two
Resonance of Fate [aka End of Eternity in Japan]
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Sega Mega Drive Ultimate Collection (has Phantasy Star 1-4 and Shining Force 1-2)
Star Ocean IV: The Last Hope (PS3 has enhanced version [PS3 international version out in February])
Tales of Vesperia (PS3 has enhanced version [PS3 localization hasn't been "officially" announced yet])
Vandal Hearts: Flames of Judgment

PS3 Exclusive
Atelier Rorona
Cross Edge (360 version Japan-only)
Demon's Souls
Disgaea 3
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Folklore
Last Rebellion
Record of Agarest (360 version Japan-only)
Valkyria Chronicles
White Knight Chronicles
White Knight Chronicles 2: Awakening of Light and Darkness

360 Exclusive [for Reference]
Blue Dragon
Fable II
Fable III
Infinite Undiscovery
The Last Remnant (PC has a far superior director's cut/remake)
Lost Odyssey
Magna Carta 2
Mass Effect (also on PC)
Mass Effect 2 (also on PC)
Operation Darkness
Spectral Force 3

Ryadic

I didn't get a chance to play Valkyria Chronicles demo last night. I did download it... again. I do know that I played the demo before and I did actually enjoy it. It is a strategy RPG at heart and it's different from any I've ever seen. However, I don't know if I can handle it. I'll play the demo tonight and see. I also don't like the idea of guns in my RPG. That could just be stubbornness on my part, though.

I did download the demo to Eternal Sonata which I downloaded once before but I don't remember playing at all.