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DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
My current keyboard is... well, to be honest it's disgusting. I spill things on it, I've had it forever and I haven't done a great job cleaning it. I'd like to replace it, but here's my problem. I can't find a good set of reviews for NORMAL keyboards. I don't want something fancy as get-out. I don't need any gaming functions. Honestly, if it was the most comfortable keyboard to type on in the world but had 0 features whatsoever, I'd be happy. I wouldn't mind if the keyboard I ended up with was wireless, though it's not a necessary feature. Same goes for backlit keys. Honestly, spill and crumb resistant are probably more important than backlit.

Anyone have any suggestions?

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I use this - http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Keyboard-Profile-Design-K64397US/dp/B0014J1P64 It's a laptop style keyboard. It has no features at all. It doesn't even have lights for caps lock/num lock/scroll lock. But it's $23 and works like a charm. It's also super quiet to type on since it has scissor switch keys. If you really want spill resistant though, Newegg has you covered.

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    FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Do you like your current keyboard enough to spend an hour getting to back to new condition? Aside from actual wear on the keys, everything should be cleanable. Just take it apart and clean it all with some rubbing alcohol.

    I've done this on multiple occaisions with keyboards in the past. You'd be surprised the shit you'll find in there. Just make sure you write down where some of the lesser-used keys go, or just take a picture of your keyboard first. Having some random useless buttons reversed afterwards is annoying... like the "alt tab" and "close window" keys.

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    Do you like your current keyboard enough to spend an hour getting to back to new condition? Aside from actual wear on the keys, everything should be cleanable. Just take it apart and clean it all with some rubbing alcohol.

    I've done this on multiple occaisions with keyboards in the past. You'd be surprised the shit you'll find in there. Just make sure you write down where some of the lesser-used keys go, or just take a picture of your keyboard first. Having some random useless buttons reversed afterwards is annoying... like the "alt tab" and "close window" keys.

    My current keyboard was free after rebates at Officemax like six years ago. So... Not terribly attached to it. And it's pretty darned filthy.

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Using this and loving it. Easy to clean, too. Just run it through the dishwasher and let it dry for a while.

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    eternalbleternalbl Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Apparently you can run a keyboard through the dishwasher.

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    FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    eternalbl wrote: »
    Apparently you can run a keyboard through the dishwasher.

    I've tried this, but it doesn't get the crumbs out from inside. When I opened mine up to check afterwards, there were some soap suds in there.

    I didn't like the dishwasher method.

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    AresProphetAresProphet Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Best keyboard in the world

    No extraneous buttons (the volume buttons are really useful). Takes up minimal space. Backlight is great if your desk isn't that well lit, and can be turned off if you hate it. Keys feel great.

    It isn't spill-proof or anything, though.

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    TechnicalityTechnicality Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You might want to check out Apple mac keyboards, as they are pretty good for people who want a nice keyboard that doesn't take up two whole desks.

    I have one of these which I wouldn't part with for the world, but one of the guys I work with has the newer aluminium one and rates it also (neither of us has ever owned a mac).

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    MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I started a thread about this last week. What I ended up buying was this Logitech media 600 keyboard. I got that for ~20 of your overseas monetary units ($). It's pretty much exactly what I needed. No nonsense-buttons or back lights and I can press as many buttons as I want at once without it beeping angrily at me. Which is good for Left 4 Dead where you run around, jump AND scream at your buddies over the voice chat.

    Can't say anything about the crumb-resistance of it but I had it's predecessor (logitech media something PS/2 board) for 4 years and it was pretty nasty but working like a charm when I finally changed it.

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Movitz wrote: »
    I started a thread about this last week. What I ended up buying was this Logitech media 600 keyboard. I got that for ~20 of your overseas monetary units ($). It's pretty much exactly what I needed. No nonsense-buttons or back lights and I can press as many buttons as I want at once without it beeping angrily at me. Which is good for Left 4 Dead where you run around, jump AND scream at your buddies over the voice chat.

    Can't say anything about the crumb-resistance of it but I had it's predecessor (logitech media something PS/2 board) for 4 years and it was pretty nasty but working like a charm when I finally changed it.

    I swore I'd seen a keyboard thread recently, but I couldn't find it. Thanks for the tips. I like that cheap logitech one referenced earlier, but looking at it I realized I also like long keys that have a satisfying amount of give when being pushed.

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    MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I have been using the same keyboard for going on 7 years now. I build new computers, get new monitors, even bought a mouse or three.

    But the keyboard... it just chugs right along.

    And its just a black generic SystemMax keyboard.

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    DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You might want to check out Apple mac keyboards, as they are pretty good for people who want a nice keyboard that doesn't take up two whole desks.

    What you might particularly like about the current Mac keyboards is that there is pretty much zero way for you to get gunk stuck under the keys. If the surface of the keys gets dirty, five minutes with some rubbing alcohol and a qtip makes it look as clean as the day you bought it.

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    Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I have a buckling spring keyboard from Unicomp and I love it.

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    vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I have a buckling spring keyboard from Unicomp and I love it.
    Love these keyboards. They're built like tanks and the design of the bucking spring means that crap dropped between the keys rarely affects their functionality. The only downside is that the keys make a fairly distinctive and loud-ish noise.

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    ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This is the most robust keyboard ever made by humans. The thing is inde-fucking-structable. The key caps are removable for a quick tidy job, and the keys themselves pop entirely out very easily for cleaning the tray underneath them. I love the way the keys respond tactically when you're typing, but the keyboard IS loud as hell.

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    vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Vintage IBM model Ms are certainly nice, but not having USB support is kind of a drag. The Unicomp units Mike Danger linked are built to the original model M spec, but you have the option of getting it in PS2 or USB.

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    SpherickSpherick Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Using this and loving it. Easy to clean, too. Just run it through the dishwasher and let it dry for a while.

    Seconding, I use this same keyboard and its good at what it does with no fancy extras

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    saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    You might want to check out Apple mac keyboards, as they are pretty good for people who want a nice keyboard that doesn't take up two whole desks.

    I have one of these which I wouldn't part with for the world, but one of the guys I work with has the newer aluminium one and rates it also (neither of us has ever owned a mac).

    I'm in love with the new aluminum mac keyboards. So much so that I bought one for my PC as well. The only problem is I'm so used to the ease of typing with the shallow keys and short strokes that I can't really use regular keyboards anymore.

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    ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Vintage IBM model Ms are certainly nice, but not having USB support is kind of a drag. The Unicomp units Mike Danger linked are built to the original model M spec, but you have the option of getting it in PS2 or USB.

    Are they making motherboards without PS2 ports nowadays?

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Erandus wrote: »
    Vintage IBM model Ms are certainly nice, but not having USB support is kind of a drag. The Unicomp units Mike Danger linked are built to the original model M spec, but you have the option of getting it in PS2 or USB.

    Are they making motherboards without PS2 ports nowadays?

    Yes. Quite common to find a motherboard with just one, but there are more and more that don't feature any, mostly in the high end chipsets.

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    ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That makes me a little sad.

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    SpherickSpherick Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    There are always PS2 -> USB converters that come with most keyboards also

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    eternalbl wrote: »
    Apparently you can run a keyboard through the dishwasher.

    I've tried this, but it doesn't get the crumbs out from inside. When I opened mine up to check afterwards, there were some soap suds in there.

    I didn't like the dishwasher method.

    Heh dude you're not supposed to put soap in. Just stick the keyboard in and run the rinse cycle.

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    FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    eternalbl wrote: »
    Apparently you can run a keyboard through the dishwasher.

    I've tried this, but it doesn't get the crumbs out from inside. When I opened mine up to check afterwards, there were some soap suds in there.

    I didn't like the dishwasher method.

    Heh dude you're not supposed to put soap in. Just stick the keyboard in and run the rinse cycle.

    Well.. that would explain that.

    Still, that would do even less of a cleaning job if it was just spraying water onto my keyboard. On the same token, you could dunk your keyboard in the toilet, throw it in the shower, or play catch across a sprinkler with it.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    Figgy wrote: »
    eternalbl wrote: »
    Apparently you can run a keyboard through the dishwasher.

    I've tried this, but it doesn't get the crumbs out from inside. When I opened mine up to check afterwards, there were some soap suds in there.

    I didn't like the dishwasher method.

    Heh dude you're not supposed to put soap in. Just stick the keyboard in and run the rinse cycle.

    Well.. that would explain that.

    Still, that would do even less of a cleaning job if it was just spraying water onto my keyboard. On the same token, you could dunk your keyboard in the toilet, throw it in the shower, or play catch across a sprinkler with it.

    Not really, if you put it in the top rack, keys down, all the water shoots up into the keyboard, getting between the keys. Don't put anything else in, just your keyboard. I've done this with several keyboards and all have come out quite well at the end. Just make sure you give it time to dry.

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'd love to test the dishwasher method, but I don't have a backup keyboard in case things go awry!

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    Sir Headless VIISir Headless VII Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I don't see why you would spend allot of money or time looking at keyboards. They are all the same. Yes there are minor key placement differences but if you use it for a couple of days you will get used to it. Just goto your local computer store (or internet retailer) and buy a basic keyboard for $10. Or if you want a spillproof one buy one with that feature. They don't have any hidden pitfalls you cant see by looking at the key layout for a couple of seconds. Reviews aren't necessary because they will all be "I used this keyboard for several years and its my favorite (everyone prefers their own keyboard)" or "I just bought this and it isn't exactly like my old one >:[ THIS SUXXXXX :( why cant it be the exact same as my old one!!!!111".

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I don't see why you would spend allot of money or time looking at keyboards. They are all the same. Yes there are minor key placement differences but if you use it for a couple of days you will get used to it. Just goto your local computer store (or internet retailer) and buy a basic keyboard for $10. Or if you want a spillproof one buy one with that feature. They don't have any hidden pitfalls you cant see by looking at the key layout for a couple of seconds. Reviews aren't necessary because they will all be "I used this keyboard for several years and its my favorite (everyone prefers their own keyboard)" or "I just bought this and it isn't exactly like my old one >:[ THIS SUXXXXX :( why cant it be the exact same as my old one!!!!111".

    I think you might be right. Honestly, I've bought so few keyboards in my lifetime that I don't know whether there is a serious quality concern generally.

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    BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I don't see why you would spend allot of money or time looking at keyboards. They are all the same.

    No they aren't. If you use mechanical keyboards such as the Model M or it's derivatives you know that very well ;-)

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    vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    They are all the same.
    All the standard plastic-dome-switch keyboards are essentially the same, yes. Buckling spring keyboards are definitely not the same as the vast majority of keyboards. If you haven't worn out a standard plastic-dome-switch keyboard, you don't spend nearly as much time in front of a PC as I do. :P

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    RhinoRhino TheRhinLOL Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This are the best keyboards imho. Great for programming and typing. They are rock solid too, built like tanks and can be cleaned if needed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard

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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I spilled about 18 ounces of mixed vodka and juice on my keyboard about a month ago. then went to bed without cleaning it.

    The next day, I took off all the keys and put them in a ziplock bag with water and just shook and jostled it for about 5 minutes and then let it sit. then I took all the screws out of the back of the keyboard and cleaned each individual part with either a washcloth or some extra felt wipes I had. then I rinsed it all and let it set for a day before putting it all back together. It turns out it wasn't completely dry when I tried it the next day and just kinda froze up. so I let it sit for another 3 days and now it works fine.

    however, I don't like my keyboard very much because of the spacing in the keys and the fact that when I mess up, I can't just find the right keys because I can't see the keyboard. Just get something cheap IMO or clean the one you have.

    worst case is that you screw up the one you have and actually have to get a new one.

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I really like these keyboards:

    http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=030

    The only "media" buttons on it I use are the global hotkeys to control a music player/volume, and the calculator/sleep keys next to the keypad. Other than that it's got a nice tactile response to it (feels similar to a Model M but a good bit quieter), and has proven to be pretty durable and easy to clean.


    Additionally, the going online price for them seems to be somewhere under $15.

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