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slash000

Another week, another 7 days of new game releases!

Welcome to the 83 edition of G&T's newly traditional "Weekly Games Release Thread!" - Week 9/27/09 - 10/3/09!

Where we discuss what we're looking forward to, what we're going to buy, and what we're just now realizing is being released this week that we had forgotten about!

NDS

Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days




MySims Agents



Wizard of Oz Beyond the Yellow Brick Road

Battle of Giants - Dragons
Dream Dancer
Family Feud
Hidden Mysteries: Titanic
Imagine Salon Stylist
Sideswiped
Smart Boys Game Room 2
Smart Girls Playhouse 2
Smart Kids: Mega Game Mix
Dreamer: Top Model

PC

Tales of Monkey Island Chapter 3: Lair of the Leviathan





Risen





Fallen Earth



Bass Pro Shops: The Strike
Family Feud
Red War: Edem's Curse
Shutter Island

PS2

nothing

PS3

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2

Midnight Club: Los Angeles (Complete Edition)

Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2010

Tornado Outbreak



Fallout 3: Operation Anchorage
Fallout 3: The Pitt

PSP

Gran Turismo




Beaterator




MotorStorm Arctic Edge




Undead Knights

Wii

Dead Space Extraction




Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga




MySims Agents


Rapala: We Fish
Deca Sports 2
Animal Kingdom: Wildlife Expedition
Bass Pro Shops: The Strike
Family Feud
Family Fun Football
Family Party: 30 Great Games Outdoor Fun
Hardy Boys: The Hidden Theft
Hidden Mysteries: Titanic
Tornado Outbreak

Xbox360

Midnight Club: Los Angeles (Complete Edition)
Bass Pro Shops: The Strike
Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2010
Tornado Outbreak

Axel & Pixel
Military Madness: Nectaris

Could be another decent-ish week..

Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days hits the Nintendo DS for any RPG/Squeenix/Disney fans.

PC gets a new Monkey Island episode, I think.

PS3 gets Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, the late release sixaxis enabled version of the former 360 exclusive.

PSP finally gets the long-promised Gran Turismo. Unfortunately reviews and impressions have been pretty poor considering the initial promise of this game. Many are already calling MotorStorm the better racer on the platform; of which it receives a new edition, MotorStorm Arctic Edge, this week.

Wii gets its first Dead Space iteration, as the "guided first person experience" Dead Space Extraction comes to the system. The Wii also gets the RPG known as Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga. Published by Xseed, gotta love those guys.

B:L

The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road?

...

RIZ-ZOAWD

HOLY SHIT.

Love the inspired soundtrack too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrR2qRrq_KI


Also, HOLY SHIT cover art for Dead Space Extraction on the Wii!

elliotw2

Looks like a skip week, except maybe the Kingdom Hearts game, and maybe DS:Extraction

maximumzero

I'm tentatively interested in Tornado Outbreak. Supposedly it's dev'd by some Ex-Sucker Punch guys unless I'm mistaken.

Dodge Aspen

IGN called Dead Space: Extraction the best on rails shooter on the Wii. High praise, even for IGN. I've been planning on picking up one of these "light gun" games, and have been leaning toward HOTD: Overkill, but I may grab this instead.

Xtarath

Has anybody heard about Risen? I only know that it's by the same people who made the Gothics.

grrarg

Xtarath wrote: »

Has anybody heard about Risen? I only know that it's by the same people who made the Gothics.

The first few posts in the thread have videos and stuff. It is supposed to be the spiritual successor to the Gothic games but with more polish, better controls, and fewer bugs.

maximumzero

Dodge Aspen wrote: »

IGN called Dead Space: Extraction the best on rails shooter on the Wii. High praise, even for IGN. I've been planning on picking up one of these "light gun" games, and have been leaning toward HOTD: Overkill, but I may grab this instead.

I played Ghost Squad in an arcade a few weeks back while out of town. A fun game.

One day I'm gonna go nuts and buy the Wii Zapper with Ghost Squad, both RE games, Dead Space & HotD 2&3.

Synthesis

I'm picking up Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, but that's because I basically replay those games over and over and over again. I guess the challenge makes that possible. Plus, I mean, I enjoy them too.

On the down side, I know a grand total of two other people in my town who own PS3s, so finding someone to play co-op with might be tricky.

Alfred J. Kwak

Man, I'm feeling like such a cheap ass. I ordered Risen PC from the UK just because it costs less there, even though it's a game by German developers and the English voice-acting will likely be quite a bit inferior.

UnbreakableVow

I was interested in Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. Hell, I might have even bought it sight unseen based on the strength of the first Sigma. The demo completely unsold me. The camera is so fucking terri-bad, the only way it could be worse is if it physically manifested and kicked me in the dick.

Nothing else interesting this week.

elliotw2

The camera is terrible in Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, and I don't like how it feels based on the demo either. The fighting feels far too loose and floaty, like I'm punching air. Not to mention the load times, which are terrible, the loss of almost all of the blood effects, and annoying platforming

Synthesis

Honestly, I didn't notice the camera.

That being said, it's no different from the original Ninja Gaiden II's camera, despite what some people were claiming would be the case ("magical fix, whee!").

That being said, I am accustomed to the bad to godawful cameras of the original Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry. Especially 4's. So maybe I'm just desensitized to it. Or so I've been told--most of what know of bad cameras came from other people's declarations of it.

"This camera sucks!"

"Shut up, I'm about to chop this guy's head off."

UnbreakableVow

Honestly, the cameras in the original NG or any of the DMCs have ever bothered me. Typically you don't hear camera complaints from me, because I understand it's a hard thing to do.

But fuck Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2's and fuck the original Kingdom Hearts'.

Synthesis

I'll miss the gore though. For a game that was designed to be so intrinsically violent and unforgiving brutal, making it less bloody seems kind of...stupid.

I just hope it doesn't have the Sigma 1's pain-in-the-ass loading screens and pauses. It's a goddamn PS3, with an installed game, there's no reason for that many loading pauses.

MinionOfCthulhu

I had questions about Kingdom Hearts DS and if it was getting good scores or whatever but nevermind that.
There's a goddamn Wizard of Oz RPG?!

dclee

I preordered Kingdom Hearts DS, and that Wizard of Oz DS game has also sparked my interest. But I will wait to see how the reviews are.

slash000

What the eff is this Wiz of Oz game people keep mentioning? I haven't heard anything about it and I tend to keep my fingers on the pulse of anticipated games, even if obscure and niche.


Also I shall be getting Dead Space Extraction. WHO'S WITH ME?

UnbreakableVow

slash000 wrote: »

Also I shall be getting Dead Space Extraction. WHO'S WITH ME?

I AM!

Zython

1. I didn't know Kingdom Hearts was coming out this week.

2. It's the 27th, not the 17th.

Xtarath

Man, Risen looks toight, I might have to pick it up on Steam. But with how it got banned in Australia for sexual content, I just wonder what is rising, if you know what I mean.

What I am referring to is a penis.

Synthesis

For some reason, I thought Tropico 3 was coming out soon. Sadly, I must wait until the 20th of October.

Bartholamue

Me wanty that Kingdom Hearts game, but nothing else interests me that much this week.

Spoit

I'm picking up KH because of the absolutely ridiculous deal Amazon had for it, combining the KINGDOM5 $5 off (which should still be active for today, if anyone wants to do a last minute order), the $10 credit, and release day shipping.

wirehead26

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

Honestly, the cameras in the original NG or any of the DMCs have ever bothered me. Typically you don't hear camera complaints from me, because I understand it's a hard thing to do.

But fuck Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2's and fuck the original Kingdom Hearts'.

So true. I remember when my sister was just getting into the KH universe and realizing how awful the camera in the first game was, especially in the Alice in Wonderland level. Eventually I convinced her to just give up on the first game and jump right into the second which was a smart move since she adores everything about KH 2.

Speaking of KH is there an existing thread we can discuss the DS game on?

Cornell002

Spoit wrote: »

I'm picking up KH because of the absolutely ridiculous deal Amazon had for it, combining the KINGDOM5 $5 off (which should still be active for today, if anyone wants to do a last minute order), the $10 credit, and release day shipping.

what was the deal, and is it still valid? I didn't see anything on the site

Spoit

the coupon code KINGDOM5 gives you $5, and you get a $10 video game credit when it ships.

Princepeach

So does anyone know anything about this Undead Knights game?

It's looking kinda like Pikmin meets Dynasty Warriors, which is a recipe for awesome, but I can't find any reviews or impressions anywhere.

This video is what piqued my interest initially. Hopefully the terrible music is not included.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aALlcvwaZu4

Zython

Spoit wrote: »

the coupon code KINGDOM5 gives you $5, and you get a $10 video game credit when it ships.

Could you elaborate on this "video game credit"? I've never bought anything off Amazon.

dclee

Zython wrote: »

Spoit wrote: »

the coupon code KINGDOM5 gives you $5, and you get a $10 video game credit when it ships.

Could you elaborate on this "video game credit"? I've never bought anything off Amazon.

After the game ships, you will receive a video game credit in your e-mail for future game purchases from Amazon.

brynstar

I bought and played through Dead Space Extraction. It's awesome, I loved every moment of it. The attention to detail, especially if you've played the first game, is astounding.

Rent

Really

Another Ninja Gaiden game

Are you fucking kidding me

Just to keep count of different versions of the same fucking game:

Ninja Gaiden Xbox

Ninja Gaiden Xbox360

Ninja Gaiden Black

Ninja Gaiden Sigma Xbox360

Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 PS3

Hey, I want to work for Team Ninja, I can make 6 versions of the SAME FUCKING GAME

brynstar

Sigma 2 is a port of Ninja Gaiden 2.

Sigma 1 was never on Xbox 360.

EDIT: Also, the original game was never on Xbox 360, so the list should look like this

Ninja Gaiden Xbox
Ninja Gaiden Black Xbox
Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3

Ninja Gaiden 2 360
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 PS3

It's not really worth getting that upset over.

Rent

brynstar wrote: »

Sigma 2 is a port of Ninja Gaiden 2.

Sigma 1 was never on Xbox 360.

EDIT: Also, the original game was never on Xbox 360, so the list should look like this

Ninja Gaiden Xbox
Ninja Gaiden Black Xbox
Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3

Ninja Gaiden 2 360
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 PS3

It's not really worth getting that upset over.

Wait...I'm nearly positive Sigma was on 360; isn't it in the Downloadable Games section?

Black is on the 360 via DLC, I know that

Also, Sigma 2 is a shitty fucking name

2 Sigma makes far more sense considering how many goddamn remakes they do and their bizarre naming convention

Edit: Wikipedia checking- I'm dumb

Still, talk about milking a game series fucking dry

brynstar

Yes, Black is available through Games on Demand but it's still an Xbox title.

I would be more excited about Sigma 2 if it weren't for the iffy impressions I've seen. I'm also still confused about the decision to cut most of the blood effects out. I had some fun with regular 2, but I didn't finish it.

I'm also curious about Risen, but I'm going to wait and see what reviews/impressions are like, given the unfortunately broken state of Gothic 3 at launch. I did try that game with some fan patches recently, and it was much much better, but I don't want to go through that again. I know the devs can make a good game and so hopefully this is their return to glory.

Rent

brynstar wrote: »

Yes, Black is available through Games on Demand but it's still an Xbox title.

Curse you and your logic

Considering the internet's anger over L4D II, I think it's pretty dumb that TN gets a pass over making the same goddamn game 3 times, then keeping all the problems and barely changing the graphics 2 more times

Talk about a double standard

What I'm saying is is I severely dislike TN, in case you couldn't tell

Synthesis

Rent wrote: »

brynstar wrote: »

Yes, Black is available through Games on Demand but it's still an Xbox title.

Curse you and your logic

Considering the internet's anger over L4D II, I think it's pretty dumb that TN gets a pass over making the same goddamn game 3 times, then keeping all the problems and barely changing the graphics 2 more times

Talk about a double standard

What I'm saying is is I severely dislike TN, in case you couldn't tell

Yeah, stupid logic getting in the way of good hatred...

But yeah, the first Sigma game is only on the PS3. I don't really know what to say about this. I mean, generally speaking, I think multiplatform games are a good thing, so it'd be hypocritical for me to object to the game being on the PS3. So it's the PS3 version of NG2. It's intended for people who only own PS3s. It's not intended to be purchased by people who already own the original version....

And they decided to throw some stuff in there too, I guess?

I dunno, maybe it should be cheaper....Fuck it, Team Ninja's basically lost at least half of its brain power more than a year ago, so what do I expect? Normally, "more options are a good thing" is a sound argument, but then again, Devil May Cry 3 sucked on PC, so maybe it's not a good argument.

Cherrn

Sigma 2 is not even remotely the same game rehashed, like, say, Dynasty Warriors is. It's iterating on the same game, rebalancing it, fixing its flaws, souping up the graphics (actually quite a lot, if you can believe it) and adding new stuff (such as 3 extra characters, new stages/bosses and co-op) to create a much improved experience. The only way you'd get upset over something like this is if you never actually played or cared about Ninja Gaiden (which you clearly don't, so why be upset about it?). Fighting games have been doing the same thing for 20 years - it's mostly a good thing, and sometimes necessary, especially considering Ninja Gaiden 2 was a hugely flawed game.

I mean, if you wanna complain about the pricing, fine. But I can't think of many games more deserving/in need of an iteration than Ninja Gaiden 2. They're basically finishing it.

Bartholamue

Especially when Guilty Gear XX got 7 revisions.

Synthesis

Cherrn wrote: »

Sigma 2 is not even remotely the same game rehashed, like, say, Dynasty Warriors is. It's iterating on the same game, rebalancing it, fixing its flaws, souping up the graphics (actually quite a lot, if you can believe it) and adding new stuff (such as 3 extra characters, new stages/bosses and co-op) to create a much improved experience. The only way you'd get upset over something like this is if you never actually played or cared about Ninja Gaiden (which you clearly don't, so why be upset about it?). Fighting games have been doing the same thing for 20 years - it's mostly a good thing, and sometimes necessary, especially considering Ninja Gaiden 2 was a hugely flawed game.

I mean, if you wanna complain about the pricing, fine. But I can't think of many games more deserving/in need of an iteration than Ninja Gaiden 2. They're basically finishing it.

Wrong, and here's my case why: a lot of what they're adding is not good. They've made the ranged combat mechanic much simpler (unlimited ammunition, auto-aiming, instant-kills), they've removed the ability to charge ranged attacks, they've removed certain parts of the game and moved turned them into single missions. The game, on a whole, is a lot easier.

Removing the gore, again, is a stylistic debate. I think it's worse, given that the game's rating will not change and it is a game about visceral violence.

Some of the additions are welcome. Others are not. In my opinion, if NG2 was not originally finished, it is certainly not finished in NGS2. It's still an unfinished game with a few nice new features and a co-op mode. On the other hand, I thought the original release was finished, so NGS2 is likewise finished.

Cherrn

Well, I haven't played it yet, but that is the intent, anyway. If they didn't actually do a good job, that's another story.