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[WoW] What A Long, Strange Chat it's Been

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  • Basren DragonsnackBasren Dragonsnack Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I wonder how many people in a PUG I could convince that I need this rogue agi leather for avoidance purposes

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It sounds like an exciting experiment.

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  • derangedhermitderangedhermit Madstrike PortugalRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Why does that Terenas Menethil model look way way way better than any other human in the game? :(

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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    GPIA7R wrote: »
    Very good to know, thanks everyone.

    I've always been a bit confused about the following, though:

    Block Value and Block Rating. Anyone want to explain that? Also, should Dodge ever be taken into consideration with itemization?

    Block rating increases your chance to block. Just like dodge rating increases your chance to dodge. Shield block value is the amount of damage that is shaved off when you do block. So if you have a 20% chance to block, when you do block, you will take damage minus SBV. Warriors have a 60% chance when we block to critical block, which makes you block double your shield block value, and of course Shield Block makes you 100% chance to block any attacks you don't avoid while it's up.

    Long story short, you only want block rating when it's on a piece that's good because of the other stats and it's pretty rare now, and you want as much block value as you can get from pieces that are good otherwise. Again, you don't stack for it.

    I keep two sets of gear. One is my SBV set that I use in heroics for max shield slams and pulling 2 or 3 packs at a time. The other is my main tanking set which has much lower block value but much higher HP/avoidance.

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  • BoogdudBoogdud Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Why does that Terenas Menethil model look way way way better than any other human in the game? :(

    Looks like the exact same model with a different face texture to me. He's still got baseball gloves for hands, etc.

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  • WingedWeaselWingedWeasel Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    O.K. this is probably irrelevant to everyone but it really annoyed me yesterday. In the 5 man heroic toc how relevant is it for DPS to be following marks and/or switched to the add? I have only run it a few times since I started playing again and the first 5-6 times we ran through (same tank with me healing) with zero issues. I mean I could've gone and made a sandwich it was so simple. Yesterday I had a warrior, a lock, and a mage all taking big hits left and right and I don't have the foggiest where from. We limped through and managed to finish but it pissed me off because I can only assume I was screwing up the healing.

    I had the same tank I usually do, but holy crap I actually went oom from spamming heals all over the place. My friend who tanked it claimed that they kept attacking the chick that summons the nightmare and messing stuff up (despite tremor being down people would go 100% --> 0% during a fear). I am not so sure.

    My gear isn't bad I assume: armory

    I just don't know what the hell went wrong and it's frustrating. If I'm screwing it up I'd rather know that I got carried the first half dozen times and fix whatever the hell is going wrong.

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  • SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Certain faction champs are bitchier than others, and if you're not doing the little trash there is right (or the ghouls), there's huge potential for group-wide damage.

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  • derangedhermitderangedhermit Madstrike PortugalRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Well, the faces are the problem on human models , imo.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I wonder how many people in a PUG I could convince that I need this rogue agi leather for avoidance purposes

    On my server it'd be hard enough convincing most PUGs you need defense plate for avoidance purposes.

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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SabreMau wrote: »
    MMOchamp has updated totems for orcs, trolls, shamans. Maybe we are getting the new race/class combos in 3.3!
    Orcs, trolls, and shamans? More like orcs, trolls, and dwarves.

    Yeah that's what I meant! I want my Dwarf shaman now :!

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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    O.K. this is probably irrelevant to everyone but it really annoyed me yesterday. In the 5 man heroic toc how relevant is it for DPS to be following marks and/or switched to the add? I have only run it a few times since I started playing again and the first 5-6 times we ran through (same tank with me healing) with zero issues. I mean I could've gone and made a sandwich it was so simple. Yesterday I had a warrior, a lock, and a mage all taking big hits left and right and I don't have the foggiest where from. We limped through and managed to finish but it pissed me off because I can only assume I was screwing up the healing.

    I had the same tank I usually do, but holy crap I actually went oom from spamming heals all over the place. My friend who tanked it claimed that they kept attacking the chick that summons the nightmare and messing stuff up (despite tremor being down people would go 100% --> 0% during a fear). I am not so sure.

    My gear isn't bad I assume: armory

    I just don't know what the hell went wrong and it's frustrating. If I'm screwing it up I'd rather know that I got carried the first half dozen times and fix whatever the hell is going wrong.
    I'm pretty sure Paltress is invulnerable while the shade is up. It's easy for softer classes to die during a fear just by catching 2-3 smites in a row. I don't know enough about shaman healing to say what you could do to deal with it other than the tremor totem you're already using. As a disc priest I just keep a shield on everyone to absorb the smites and then throw the tank heals as necessary.

    There's a lot of chance involved in 5-man ToC with faction champ composition, who gets smited when you get Paltress, who gets marked on Black Knight phase 3, etc. It doesn't sound like you were underperforming.

    Bama on
  • SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    She might be unkillable, but you can bring her to 1 HP so that she surrenders instantly when the shade dies.

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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    How do you do that? 5 Warlocks chaos bolting? She heals usually :P

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  • Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    O.K. this is probably irrelevant to everyone but it really annoyed me yesterday. In the 5 man heroic toc how relevant is it for DPS to be following marks and/or switched to the add? I have only run it a few times since I started playing again and the first 5-6 times we ran through (same tank with me healing) with zero issues. I mean I could've gone and made a sandwich it was so simple. Yesterday I had a warrior, a lock, and a mage all taking big hits left and right and I don't have the foggiest where from. We limped through and managed to finish but it pissed me off because I can only assume I was screwing up the healing.

    I had the same tank I usually do, but holy crap I actually went oom from spamming heals all over the place. My friend who tanked it claimed that they kept attacking the chick that summons the nightmare and messing stuff up (despite tremor being down people would go 100% --> 0% during a fear). I am not so sure.

    My gear isn't bad I assume: armory

    I just don't know what the hell went wrong and it's frustrating. If I'm screwing it up I'd rather know that I got carried the first half dozen times and fix whatever the hell is going wrong.
    I'm pretty sure Paltress is invulnerable while the shade is up. It's easy for softer classes to die during a fear just by catching 2-3 smites in a row. I don't know enough about shaman healing to say what you could do to deal with it other than the tremor totem you're already using. As a disc priest I just keep a shield on everyone to absorb the smites and then throw the tank heals as necessary.

    There's a lot of chance involved in 5-man ToC with faction champ composition, who gets smited when you get Paltress, who gets marked on Black Knight phase 3, etc. It doesn't sound like you were underperforming.


    She is a bitch. That smite can sometimes come out so freaking fast and it hits rediculously hard. If it targets the same person 3 times in a row and you werent healing them at least by the second they will die. It sucks. Sometimes a death happens but thats what happens in random spike damage encounters. I hate her because of that. Id rather have retards not turning around on the paladin dudes light shit than that fight.

    But also playing a shaman, thats pretty much all you can do. I personally put earth shield on myself so I can completely ignore me and have 0 interruption, cause the tank usually has enough health that I can get a quick Healing wave on him and hes set for like 10-15 seconds.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You can interrupt Paletress and you SHOULD. Her Smites are what makes the encounter a bitch to do.

    Sadly, I think I'm the only one on my server who knows how to click an "Interrupt" skill.

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  • frylockedfrylocked Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    You can interrupt Paletress and you SHOULD. Her Smites are what makes the encounter a bitch to do.

    Sadly, I think I'm the only one on my server who knows how to click an "Interrupt" skill.

    Clicker!

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  • ReignerReigner Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Man I could have sworn that every attempt I've made to interrupt Paletress was met with IMMUNE in big yellow letters.

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  • SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    How do you do that? 5 Warlocks chaos bolting? She heals usually :P

    The only heal she has is Renew, and it's dispellable. You'd be hard-pressed to make a group composed entirely of classes with no dispel.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Saeris wrote: »
    How do you do that? 5 Warlocks chaos bolting? She heals usually :P

    The only heal she has is Renew, and it's dispellable. You'd be hard-pressed to make a group composed entirely of classes with no dispel.

    DK, Rogue, Druid Healer, Paladin, Hunter.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    You can't interrupt the Smite. You can interrupt and spell reflect the Holy Fire. The Renew can be dispelled by Shield Slam too.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    Saeris wrote: »
    How do you do that? 5 Warlocks chaos bolting? She heals usually :P

    The only heal she has is Renew, and it's dispellable. You'd be hard-pressed to make a group composed entirely of classes with no dispel.

    DK, Rogue, Druid Healer, Paladin, Hunter.

    Don't hunters have a dispell?

    Arch on
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Also- My engineering is kinda up there...I was buying mats for it until WOTLK and then the prices went NUTS and I got bored and gave up.

    I actually don't know why I'm gonna level mining...I guess to...sell...stuff? I can probably afford to buy all the mats I will need to at least get enough skillups to make the rocket launchers, cloak enchant, and boot enchant.

    yea only need a max skill of 405 for all those, and I am at 365

    Arch on
  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Arch wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Saeris wrote: »
    How do you do that? 5 Warlocks chaos bolting? She heals usually :P

    The only heal she has is Renew, and it's dispellable. You'd be hard-pressed to make a group composed entirely of classes with no dispel.

    DK, Rogue, Druid Healer, Paladin, Hunter.

    Don't hunters have a dispell?

    They do. http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=19801

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Rizzi wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Saeris wrote: »
    How do you do that? 5 Warlocks chaos bolting? She heals usually :P

    The only heal she has is Renew, and it's dispellable. You'd be hard-pressed to make a group composed entirely of classes with no dispel.

    DK, Rogue, Druid Healer, Paladin, Hunter.

    Don't hunters have a dispell?

    They do. http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=19801

    Couldn't remember if it was in arcane shot or tranq shot now, been a while since I huntered

    Arch on
  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I remember when it dispelled.. those were the days.

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bama wrote: »
    O.K. this is probably irrelevant to everyone but it really annoyed me yesterday. In the 5 man heroic toc how relevant is it for DPS to be following marks and/or switched to the add? I have only run it a few times since I started playing again and the first 5-6 times we ran through (same tank with me healing) with zero issues. I mean I could've gone and made a sandwich it was so simple. Yesterday I had a warrior, a lock, and a mage all taking big hits left and right and I don't have the foggiest where from. We limped through and managed to finish but it pissed me off because I can only assume I was screwing up the healing.

    I had the same tank I usually do, but holy crap I actually went oom from spamming heals all over the place. My friend who tanked it claimed that they kept attacking the chick that summons the nightmare and messing stuff up (despite tremor being down people would go 100% --> 0% during a fear). I am not so sure.

    My gear isn't bad I assume: armory

    I just don't know what the hell went wrong and it's frustrating. If I'm screwing it up I'd rather know that I got carried the first half dozen times and fix whatever the hell is going wrong.
    I'm pretty sure Paltress is invulnerable while the shade is up. It's easy for softer classes to die during a fear just by catching 2-3 smites in a row. I don't know enough about shaman healing to say what you could do to deal with it other than the tremor totem you're already using. As a disc priest I just keep a shield on everyone to absorb the smites and then throw the tank heals as necessary.

    There's a lot of chance involved in 5-man ToC with faction champ composition, who gets smited when you get Paltress, who gets marked on Black Knight phase 3, etc. It doesn't sound like you were underperforming.


    I was having some problems healing during Paletress on my shaman, and then I started dropping grounding totems whenever I could. Made a world of difference for me.
    YMMV

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  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    When I'm tanking Paletress with my DK I keep her as a focus target so I can interrupt something every time Mind Freeze is off cooldown. DPS that are worth a damn should be doing the same thing.

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  • dojangodojango Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    having a pvp trinket equipped can help a bit with the H ToC fights. gets you out of one of paletress's fears, eadric's stuns, DK's stun-knockback, that sort of thing.

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  • ReignerReigner Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    If you get stunned by Eadric you should be slapped

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I think he means the stun just before hammer of the righteous, not the radiance stun.

    Jaded on
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  • dojangodojango Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Jaded wrote: »
    I think he means the stun just before hammer of the righteous, not the radiance stun.

    correct. the other thing is technically an incapacitate.

    you can have the 1st stun dispelled, but if you don't have a defensive dispeller in your group...

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  • WetsunWetsun Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    If anyone doesn't know, DK's can AMS to absorb both Paletress' fear and Eadric's Radiance.

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  • JadedJaded Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    That... I did not know.

    Jaded on
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  • WetsunWetsun Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    AMS is such a wonderful thing.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You can't interrupt the Smite. You can interrupt and spell reflect the Holy Fire. The Renew can be dispelled by Shield Slam too.

    Yes, you can interrupt the Smite.
    Arch wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Saeris wrote: »
    How do you do that? 5 Warlocks chaos bolting? She heals usually :P

    The only heal she has is Renew, and it's dispellable. You'd be hard-pressed to make a group composed entirely of classes with no dispel.

    DK, Rogue, Druid Healer, Paladin, Hunter.

    Don't hunters have a dispell?

    Whatever. The point is like half the classes lack dispells. It's not hard to end up in a group without one.

    shryke on
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    You can't interrupt the Smite. You can interrupt and spell reflect the Holy Fire. The Renew can be dispelled by Shield Slam too.

    Yes, you can interrupt the Smite.
    Arch wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Saeris wrote: »
    How do you do that? 5 Warlocks chaos bolting? She heals usually :P

    The only heal she has is Renew, and it's dispellable. You'd be hard-pressed to make a group composed entirely of classes with no dispel.

    DK, Rogue, Druid Healer, Paladin, Hunter.

    Don't hunters have a dispell?

    Whatever. The point is like half the classes lack dispells. It's not hard to end up in a group without one.

    :P

    Arch on
  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Wow, apparently you CAN install WoW from scratch with just the Wrath dvd. That's handy.

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  • GogoKodoGogoKodo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Wow, apparently you CAN install WoW from scratch with just the Wrath dvd. That's handy.

    I had a fun little time reinstalling after getting back into the game. I only played at launch and again like a year later so my discs are originals.
    I installed off all those discs and then found out that the install is seen as so out of date as to be useless. The blizzard downloader launched and decided that I had to just go the entire digital download route, 4.something GB later and I still had a bunch of patches to install too. Blech.

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  • GPIA7RGPIA7R Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It's so much easier to transfer from a friend or another PC. No actual installation is required... transfer and launch :D

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  • ogcam777ogcam777 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yeah, after taking a break from WoW twice, uninstalling the game is so not worth it when I know I'm just coming back eventually.

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