that's odd. I don't mean to be a jerk, but you do know that diagonal directions can be exchanged as just the single direction and it will still work. I butchered that, but maybe you get what I am saying?
Not really, are you saying that instead of B, DB, D, DF, F for Firestorm I can just tap B, D, F?
So, I just started replaying FF12 since I was sick all yesterday and my graphics card on my comp has been giving me fits, so I'm SOL for computer games. I don't like doing the end game stuff, so I thought I'd relive my adventures with Vaan and Co. A few quick questions about some basics I've forgotten/half-remember:
1) I just ran into my first Quickening spot on the License board. Are the quickenings all the same, or is there some advantages to each?
2) As far as weapons go, I specifically remember hand bombs as being pretty crap. I don't remember much about rods/maces/axes/spears though. Are there any to specifically avoid? I'm not really looking to do any serious min/maxing, just want to avoid any really huge pitfalls.
3) On the other side of the coin, I kinda remember light armor as being pretty crap as well. Something like having +hp while heavy armor has +def and +str so even if a character goes with daggers, light armor doesn't have any +spd to help with the dagger damage. Is this the gist of it?
Thanks in advance for any input.
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The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
Anyway, my favourite story sequences in KHDS are the ones where we have three friends sitting on a clock tower eating ice-cream and shooting the breeze. Who cares for a plot where the twists and developments came from the bin of 'Ideas rejected as being too stupid for Final Fantasy games'.
Actually that is the part I hate the most. I am so tired of people sitting in dangerous places eating goddamn sea salt ice cream and getting things memorized.
Yes, I know it's salty and it's sweet, I've had that explained to me about five times now over the course of two games. Yes I get the symbolism of things that are bittersweet. Knock it off, you're being really heavy handed with your quaintness.
Would it be a Japanese game without some laughable armchair philosophy?
Anyway, my favourite story sequences in KHDS are the ones where we have three friends sitting on a clock tower eating ice-cream and shooting the breeze. Who cares for a plot where the twists and developments came from the bin of 'Ideas rejected as being too stupid for Final Fantasy games'.
Actually that is the part I hate the most. I am so tired of people sitting in dangerous places eating goddamn sea salt ice cream and getting things memorized.
Yes, I know it's salty and it's sweet, I've had that explained to me about five times now over the course of two games. Yes I get the symbolism of things that are bittersweet. Knock it off, you're being really heavy handed with your quaintness.
i...
i never got that
every time i read that description i just kept thinking semen joke semen joke semen joke semen joke
So, I just started replaying FF12 since I was sick all yesterday and my graphics card on my comp has been giving me fits, so I'm SOL for computer games. I don't like doing the end game stuff, so I thought I'd relive my adventures with Vaan and Co. A few quick questions about some basics I've forgotten/half-remember:
1) I just ran into my first Quickening spot on the License board. Are the quickenings all the same, or is there some advantages to each?
2) As far as weapons go, I specifically remember hand bombs as being pretty crap. I don't remember much about rods/maces/axes/spears though. Are there any to specifically avoid? I'm not really looking to do any serious min/maxing, just want to avoid any really huge pitfalls.
3) On the other side of the coin, I kinda remember light armor as being pretty crap as well. Something like having +hp while heavy armor has +def and +str so even if a character goes with daggers, light armor doesn't have any +spd to help with the dagger damage. Is this the gist of it?
Thanks in advance for any input.
1. Quickening spots always unlock the next iterative Quickening for that character. So, no matter which spot you pick with say, Vaan, it'll always unlock his first (and lock that panel out for everyone else). When you grab another with Vaan, it'll unlock his second (and double your max MP), and the same with the third. There's a total of 18 Quickening spots on the board.
2. I don't remember exactly how each works, and I'm too lazy to read a FAQ, but the gist of it is that many items run off different stats for your damage, so doing some quick research on what stat goes with each item will benefit you greatly.
3. Light armor does kinda suck, but it has some benefit I don't recall. In the endgame, you'll be using bubble on everyone all the time for max HP, so HP bonuses from armor will be less important.
Anyway, my favourite story sequences in KHDS are the ones where we have three friends sitting on a clock tower eating ice-cream and shooting the breeze. Who cares for a plot where the twists and developments came from the bin of 'Ideas rejected as being too stupid for Final Fantasy games'.
Actually that is the part I hate the most. I am so tired of people sitting in dangerous places eating goddamn sea salt ice cream and getting things memorized.
Yes, I know it's salty and it's sweet, I've had that explained to me about five times now over the course of two games. Yes I get the symbolism of things that are bittersweet. Knock it off, you're being really heavy handed with your quaintness.
i...
i never got that
every time i read that description i just kept thinking semen joke semen joke semen joke semen joke
I think you're reading a bit too much into it. Sea-salt icecream is just Nomura's favourite flavour, and he's just showing his typical lack of self-restraint when putting it into the game.
the dimensional vortexes were actually pretty well done, barring the initial scrambled-worlds sections
they had original gimmicks and the powerups were downright excessive (though i missed marle's ultimate bow, dammit)
it's a shame that not even the dream devourer was much of a threat, though, the only character who died was ayla and that's because i was deliberately keeping her weak for dino tail
So I took, well, some of the advice given, and got Ultima weapon (surprisingly quick, just had to figure out what orichalcum+'s I had missed, really), and beat KH 2. I almost could have stopped where I was and been more satisfied with the ending. Whooo, Xenmas is dead, we all go hooooome! Yay!
Bleh.
So I took, well, some of the advice given, and got Ultima weapon (surprisingly quick, just had to figure out what orichalcum+'s I had missed, really), and beat KH 2. I almost could have stopped where I was and been more satisfied with the ending. Whooo, Xenmas is dead, we all go hooooome! Yay!
Bleh.
oh come on, the final boss battle is that game's high point
it's so ridiculously over the top
the only time an enemy ever used an ENTIRE CITY as a weapon
So I took, well, some of the advice given, and got Ultima weapon (surprisingly quick, just had to figure out what orichalcum+'s I had missed, really), and beat KH 2. I almost could have stopped where I was and been more satisfied with the ending. Whooo, Xenmas is dead, we all go hooooome! Yay!
Bleh.
oh come on, the final boss battle is that game's high point
it's so ridiculously over the top
the only time an enemy ever used an ENTIRE CITY as a weapon
So I took, well, some of the advice given, and got Ultima weapon (surprisingly quick, just had to figure out what orichalcum+'s I had missed, really), and beat KH 2. I almost could have stopped where I was and been more satisfied with the ending. Whooo, Xenmas is dead, we all go hooooome! Yay!
Bleh.
oh come on, the final boss battle is that game's high point
it's so ridiculously over the top
the only time an enemy ever used an ENTIRE CITY as a weapon
Well, the fight itself is fine, it's the stuff that happens after that's meh.
So I took, well, some of the advice given, and got Ultima weapon (surprisingly quick, just had to figure out what orichalcum+'s I had missed, really), and beat KH 2. I almost could have stopped where I was and been more satisfied with the ending. Whooo, Xenmas is dead, we all go hooooome! Yay!
Bleh.
oh come on, the final boss battle is that game's high point
it's so ridiculously over the top
the only time an enemy ever used an ENTIRE CITY as a weapon
Would the Junon cannon on Midgar count?
no, there they were just using the city as a power source (which evangelion had already done)
xemnas's first phase was literally hurling skyscrapers at you
So I took, well, some of the advice given, and got Ultima weapon (surprisingly quick, just had to figure out what orichalcum+'s I had missed, really), and beat KH 2. I almost could have stopped where I was and been more satisfied with the ending. Whooo, Xenmas is dead, we all go hooooome! Yay!
Bleh.
oh come on, the final boss battle is that game's high point
it's so ridiculously over the top
the only time an enemy ever used an ENTIRE CITY as a weapon
Would the Junon cannon on Midgar count?
no, there they were just using the city as a power source (which evangelion had already done)
xemnas's first phase was literally hurling skyscrapers at you
uh oh here comes the argument about which attack is the most over the top again
Eat it You Nasty Pig. on
hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
So I took, well, some of the advice given, and got Ultima weapon (surprisingly quick, just had to figure out what orichalcum+'s I had missed, really), and beat KH 2. I almost could have stopped where I was and been more satisfied with the ending. Whooo, Xenmas is dead, we all go hooooome! Yay!
Bleh.
oh come on, the final boss battle is that game's high point
it's so ridiculously over the top
the only time an enemy ever used an ENTIRE CITY as a weapon
Would the Junon cannon on Midgar count?
no, there they were just using the city as a power source (which evangelion had already done)
xemnas's first phase was literally hurling skyscrapers at you
uh oh here comes the argument about which attack is the most over the top again
i have never heard that argument before, where was i for that argument
khII is constantly one-upping itself over ludicrously elaborate attacks
Basically, is any one version a more 'complete' version? If I don't mind the restrictive controls of the 360 version am I missing anything? Or is it one of those retarded deals where I need a keyboard and mouse even for the 360?
Basically, is any one version a more 'complete' version? If I don't mind the restrictive controls of the 360 version am I missing anything? Or is it one of those retarded deals where I need a keyboard and mouse even for the 360?
Based on my very limited time with the PC version, it felt like it was built for controllers. I'm not sure that all the expansions have actually come out for the 360 version though.
Basically, is any one version a more 'complete' version? If I don't mind the restrictive controls of the 360 version am I missing anything? Or is it one of those retarded deals where I need a keyboard and mouse even for the 360?
Based on my very limited time with the PC version, it felt like it was built for controllers. I'm not sure that all the expansions have actually come out for the 360 version though.
All the expansions are out for the 360, I like the controller much more than the keyboard/mouse combo (so yes, you can use controllers, and they work amazing). However, I do prefer playing it on a PC with a 360 controller. But having a big TV is nice. Weigh your options. Having a guide on the side while playing can be useful, as some of the maps and quests are nice to have right beside you, so a un-used laptop is nice for that.
Woah man, don't bash the first KH! That one was really good, and the reason why I picked up a ps2 in the first place as a kid! And it had a plot that actually centered around Disney characters instead of a bunch of nobodies (nyuck nyuck nyuck)
The second one is grounds for whatever ridicule you need to dish.
Woah man, don't bash the first KH! That one was really good, and the reason why I picked up a ps2 in the first place as a kid! And it had a plot that actually centered around Disney characters instead of a bunch of nobodies (nyuck nyuck nyuck)
The second one is grounds for whatever ridicule you need to dish.
Did someone delete their post? While I agree with you completely, it seems really random because I don't see any KH1 hate on the page.
It was a burly elf break-dancing people in the face while on a train as ukulele music plays in the background. Given the timer, possibly as part of a minigame.
What isn't there to get?
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Basically, is any one version a more 'complete' version? If I don't mind the restrictive controls of the 360 version am I missing anything? Or is it one of those retarded deals where I need a keyboard and mouse even for the 360?
Based on my very limited time with the PC version, it felt like it was built for controllers. I'm not sure that all the expansions have actually come out for the 360 version though.
All the expansions are out for the 360, I like the controller much more than the keyboard/mouse combo (so yes, you can use controllers, and they work amazing). However, I do prefer playing it on a PC with a 360 controller. But having a big TV is nice. Weigh your options. Having a guide on the side while playing can be useful, as some of the maps and quests are nice to have right beside you, so a un-used laptop is nice for that.
I played a trial of FFXI on the pc for all of five minutes before I decided that it definitely wasn't for me, and it took me another five minutes to figure out how the hell to quit the game. I ended up using the windows task manager to close the program because I couldn't even find how to quit the game in the menu. Needless to say I won't be going back.
Started KH DS last night, and next thing I know it's 3 hours later, and I'm really liking it so far, even the sea salt ice cream eating on the clock tower. For some reason, I really like the missions where you investigate stuff, even though it's just a little hard to figure out what to investigate further once you've already investigated enough to leave the level.
So, I just started replaying FF12 since I was sick all yesterday and my graphics card on my comp has been giving me fits, so I'm SOL for computer games. I don't like doing the end game stuff, so I thought I'd relive my adventures with Vaan and Co. A few quick questions about some basics I've forgotten/half-remember:
1) I just ran into my first Quickening spot on the License board. Are the quickenings all the same, or is there some advantages to each?
2) As far as weapons go, I specifically remember hand bombs as being pretty crap. I don't remember much about rods/maces/axes/spears though. Are there any to specifically avoid? I'm not really looking to do any serious min/maxing, just want to avoid any really huge pitfalls.
3) On the other side of the coin, I kinda remember light armor as being pretty crap as well. Something like having +hp while heavy armor has +def and +str so even if a character goes with daggers, light armor doesn't have any +spd to help with the dagger damage. Is this the gist of it?
Thanks in advance for any input.
I can check the guide when I get home, but here's what I remember:
Axes and hand bombs are pretty much the same - super high damage range, but random damage within that range. I liked Axes because I tended to get pretty high output from them, but I could have just gotten on the RNG's good side. Bombs are weaker but ranged.
Basically, is any one version a more 'complete' version? If I don't mind the restrictive controls of the 360 version am I missing anything? Or is it one of those retarded deals where I need a keyboard and mouse even for the 360?
Based on my very limited time with the PC version, it felt like it was built for controllers. I'm not sure that all the expansions have actually come out for the 360 version though.
All the expansions are out for the 360, I like the controller much more than the keyboard/mouse combo (so yes, you can use controllers, and they work amazing). However, I do prefer playing it on a PC with a 360 controller. But having a big TV is nice. Weigh your options. Having a guide on the side while playing can be useful, as some of the maps and quests are nice to have right beside you, so a un-used laptop is nice for that.
I've played on both, most recently on the 360, and they both have their advantages. With the PC version you'll want to get the windower so you can multi-task while waiting for parties. With the 360, its nice having the laptop available and also having the ability to replace the music when it starts to get a little repetitve (and great if you want to listen to podcasts). I do notice slow downs in big groups on the 360 and the AH sometimes doesn't load correctly, but its just a minor gripe. Otherwise, both are fine.
So, I just started replaying FF12 since I was sick all yesterday and my graphics card on my comp has been giving me fits, so I'm SOL for computer games. I don't like doing the end game stuff, so I thought I'd relive my adventures with Vaan and Co. A few quick questions about some basics I've forgotten/half-remember:
1) I just ran into my first Quickening spot on the License board. Are the quickenings all the same, or is there some advantages to each?
2) As far as weapons go, I specifically remember hand bombs as being pretty crap. I don't remember much about rods/maces/axes/spears though. Are there any to specifically avoid? I'm not really looking to do any serious min/maxing, just want to avoid any really huge pitfalls.
3) On the other side of the coin, I kinda remember light armor as being pretty crap as well. Something like having +hp while heavy armor has +def and +str so even if a character goes with daggers, light armor doesn't have any +spd to help with the dagger damage. Is this the gist of it?
Thanks in advance for any input.
I can check the guide when I get home, but here's what I remember:
Axes and hand bombs are pretty much the same - super high damage range, but random damage within that range. I liked Axes because I tended to get pretty high output from them, but I could have just gotten on the RNG's good side. Bombs are weaker but ranged.
Thanks Delz and Vincent for the replies. I tried to promise myself that I wasn't going to go all FAQ crazy and just try and do what I could from memory. But I broke down and checked out a weapon/armor FAQ last night for some details about the mechanics (just the mechanics though, not where to find all the weapons). Seems the analysis is pretty heavily against bombs/axes/hammers though they do get the lucky big hit, on avg seems they aren't so hot.
Currently, I'm wishing it was a 4 person party, so I could try and go with the ubiquitous fighter/thief/white mage/black mage party, but oh well. My highest level party is comprised of basch/balthier/ashe and at level 18 plus some quickening cheese I beat that blasted first demon wall. Woot. Which resulted in a massively OP 1h sword for the current point in the game. I've never beaten that wall before. I almost feel cheap for using it.
Also, I guess I could go back to the FAQs again when I get home, but whats peoples thoughts on espers? IIRC, they're pretty bleh. Anyone have any tips on using them?
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The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
Basically, is any one version a more 'complete' version? If I don't mind the restrictive controls of the 360 version am I missing anything? Or is it one of those retarded deals where I need a keyboard and mouse even for the 360?
If you get the 2008 Vanadiel Collection, you'll have all the major expansions. Whether you go 360 or PC, it's all the same game. The 360 does have some slowdown in crowded areas though, and you can't tweak the graphics to look as nice as the PC version can.
For controls, your options are either a keyboard or a controller; you don't need a mouse at all. I recommend the keyboard - much easier than having to use a controller and then set it down every time you want to talk - but I know some people swear by the controller, so it's up to you.
I played a trial of FFXI on the pc for all of five minutes before I decided that it definitely wasn't for me, and it took me another five minutes to figure out how the hell to quit the game. I ended up using the windows task manager to close the program because I couldn't even find how to quit the game in the menu. Needless to say I won't be going back.
So... you missed the big blue "logout" button in the main menu? The "shutdown" one right next to it would've worked, too.
I played a trial of FFXI on the pc for all of five minutes before I decided that it definitely wasn't for me, and it took me another five minutes to figure out how the hell to quit the game. I ended up using the windows task manager to close the program because I couldn't even find how to quit the game in the menu. Needless to say I won't be going back.
So... you missed the big blue "logout" button in the main menu? The "shutdown" one right next to it would've worked, too.
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Not really, are you saying that instead of B, DB, D, DF, F for Firestorm I can just tap B, D, F?
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1) I just ran into my first Quickening spot on the License board. Are the quickenings all the same, or is there some advantages to each?
2) As far as weapons go, I specifically remember hand bombs as being pretty crap. I don't remember much about rods/maces/axes/spears though. Are there any to specifically avoid? I'm not really looking to do any serious min/maxing, just want to avoid any really huge pitfalls.
3) On the other side of the coin, I kinda remember light armor as being pretty crap as well. Something like having +hp while heavy armor has +def and +str so even if a character goes with daggers, light armor doesn't have any +spd to help with the dagger damage. Is this the gist of it?
Thanks in advance for any input.
Ayup - makes it so much easier.
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Fixed that for you.
i...
i never got that
every time i read that description i just kept thinking semen joke semen joke semen joke semen joke
1. Quickening spots always unlock the next iterative Quickening for that character. So, no matter which spot you pick with say, Vaan, it'll always unlock his first (and lock that panel out for everyone else). When you grab another with Vaan, it'll unlock his second (and double your max MP), and the same with the third. There's a total of 18 Quickening spots on the board.
2. I don't remember exactly how each works, and I'm too lazy to read a FAQ, but the gist of it is that many items run off different stats for your damage, so doing some quick research on what stat goes with each item will benefit you greatly.
3. Light armor does kinda suck, but it has some benefit I don't recall. In the endgame, you'll be using bubble on everyone all the time for max HP, so HP bonuses from armor will be less important.
I think you're reading a bit too much into it. Sea-salt icecream is just Nomura's favourite flavour, and he's just showing his typical lack of self-restraint when putting it into the game.
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the dimensional vortexes were actually pretty well done, barring the initial scrambled-worlds sections
they had original gimmicks and the powerups were downright excessive (though i missed marle's ultimate bow, dammit)
it's a shame that not even the dream devourer was much of a threat, though, the only character who died was ayla and that's because i was deliberately keeping her weak for dino tail
Bleh.
oh come on, the final boss battle is that game's high point
it's so ridiculously over the top
the only time an enemy ever used an ENTIRE CITY as a weapon
Well, the fight itself is fine, it's the stuff that happens after that's meh.
no, there they were just using the city as a power source (which evangelion had already done)
xemnas's first phase was literally hurling skyscrapers at you
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uh oh here comes the argument about which attack is the most over the top again
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
i have never heard that argument before, where was i for that argument
khII is constantly one-upping itself over ludicrously elaborate attacks
Basically, is any one version a more 'complete' version? If I don't mind the restrictive controls of the 360 version am I missing anything? Or is it one of those retarded deals where I need a keyboard and mouse even for the 360?
Based on my very limited time with the PC version, it felt like it was built for controllers. I'm not sure that all the expansions have actually come out for the 360 version though.
All the expansions are out for the 360, I like the controller much more than the keyboard/mouse combo (so yes, you can use controllers, and they work amazing). However, I do prefer playing it on a PC with a 360 controller. But having a big TV is nice. Weigh your options. Having a guide on the side while playing can be useful, as some of the maps and quests are nice to have right beside you, so a un-used laptop is nice for that.
The second one is grounds for whatever ridicule you need to dish.
Did someone delete their post? While I agree with you completely, it seems really random because I don't see any KH1 hate on the page.
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It was a burly elf break-dancing people in the face while on a train as ukulele music plays in the background. Given the timer, possibly as part of a minigame.
What isn't there to get?
I played a trial of FFXI on the pc for all of five minutes before I decided that it definitely wasn't for me, and it took me another five minutes to figure out how the hell to quit the game. I ended up using the windows task manager to close the program because I couldn't even find how to quit the game in the menu. Needless to say I won't be going back.
Started KH DS last night, and next thing I know it's 3 hours later, and I'm really liking it so far, even the sea salt ice cream eating on the clock tower. For some reason, I really like the missions where you investigate stuff, even though it's just a little hard to figure out what to investigate further once you've already investigated enough to leave the level.
sweet jesus this dreamseeker weapon is broke
this is a level beyond invincible
I can check the guide when I get home, but here's what I remember:
Axes and hand bombs are pretty much the same - super high damage range, but random damage within that range. I liked Axes because I tended to get pretty high output from them, but I could have just gotten on the RNG's good side. Bombs are weaker but ranged.
I've played on both, most recently on the 360, and they both have their advantages. With the PC version you'll want to get the windower so you can multi-task while waiting for parties. With the 360, its nice having the laptop available and also having the ability to replace the music when it starts to get a little repetitve (and great if you want to listen to podcasts). I do notice slow downs in big groups on the 360 and the AH sometimes doesn't load correctly, but its just a minor gripe. Otherwise, both are fine.
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Thanks Delz and Vincent for the replies. I tried to promise myself that I wasn't going to go all FAQ crazy and just try and do what I could from memory. But I broke down and checked out a weapon/armor FAQ last night for some details about the mechanics (just the mechanics though, not where to find all the weapons). Seems the analysis is pretty heavily against bombs/axes/hammers though they do get the lucky big hit, on avg seems they aren't so hot.
Currently, I'm wishing it was a 4 person party, so I could try and go with the ubiquitous fighter/thief/white mage/black mage party, but oh well. My highest level party is comprised of basch/balthier/ashe and at level 18 plus some quickening cheese I beat that blasted first demon wall. Woot. Which resulted in a massively OP 1h sword for the current point in the game. I've never beaten that wall before. I almost feel cheap for using it.
Also, I guess I could go back to the FAQs again when I get home, but whats peoples thoughts on espers? IIRC, they're pretty bleh. Anyone have any tips on using them?
If you get the 2008 Vanadiel Collection, you'll have all the major expansions. Whether you go 360 or PC, it's all the same game. The 360 does have some slowdown in crowded areas though, and you can't tweak the graphics to look as nice as the PC version can.
For controls, your options are either a keyboard or a controller; you don't need a mouse at all. I recommend the keyboard - much easier than having to use a controller and then set it down every time you want to talk - but I know some people swear by the controller, so it's up to you.
So... you missed the big blue "logout" button in the main menu? The "shutdown" one right next to it would've worked, too.
Yep. Didn't see those.
And I actually need to play the English version and build up my characters. >_>
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