You guys know that LP Devolution thread at SA they've had? I kind of want to do something like that here, where instead of having to be super knowledgeable or using heavy editing or, you know, actually being good at making LPs, I just want to play a game and have some other people watching and commenting and just basically having fun without having to be about it being, you know, any good or not.
Of course I don't have any idea what I'd want to play, but...yeah I don't really know where I was going with this.
I'll tell you what I'd do man: two LPs at the same time.
That's it? If you finished up Timeshift, you'd do two LPs at the same time?
Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I had a million hours of spare time I could hook that up, too, cause chicks dig dudes with a headset mic.
Well, not all chicks.
Well, the type of chicks that'd date a dude like me do.
Good point.
Well, what about you now? What would you do?
Besides two LPs at the same time?
Well, yeah.
Nothing.
Nothing, huh?
I would relax... I would sit on my ass all day... I would do nothing.
Well, you don't need to finish Timeshift to do nothing, man. Take a look at Henroid: he's broke, don't do shit.
If you're runnng 'em simultaneously, I'd go for two.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
Two games under a single thread's banner works if the games are actually a pairing or double-feature, or at least part of the same series (Half-Life 2 Eps. 1 and 2, or Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons, etc). Otherwise, keep 'em separate. It'll at least allow the threads to have some longevity in terms of discussion for each.
Also, I haven't been paid yet and my job is part time hours so I'm still broke and doing shit all with my time. :P
They are the pinnacle of the genre, and maybe the entire internet. Especially from about the midway point of five and certainly by the time you hit six, where Steve becomes a complete sociopath.
These are phenomenal, I can't stress it enough.
Seggallion: She shot everyone in Skara Brae with a cannon, for one thing.
Steve: Dude! Be cool!
Sherry: She made me have sex with some lady!
Steve: That was a birthday present! Mice have birthdays, right?
Lord British: Steve, are you fucking serious? No wonder everyone hates me.
Steve: I'm not the one who goes running off to Doom every five games. You know how many mirrors I've been trapped in before? I mean besides the time I went into the mirror to rescue you. And that one time in Ultima II. But other than those two times never.
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edited July 2010
can you read them without knowing anything about the ultima series
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It's probably better you don't know anything about the actual games, honestly.
They are ungodly awful to actually try to play.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
My brother in law had me try one of the Ultima games once (god knows which it was). The first thing I did was attack a guard and got spanked hard.
Edit - I tried again shortly after and I did stuff like pick up cheese and bread at a farm, or something. I think. If I was older I would've tried more of the game.
Honestly Ultima 7 and below are fine games 7 and 6 are especially good. Below that you start getting into "this is stupidly hard just because we can make it stupidly hard" territory that oldschool CRPGs usually fall into. They're dated, sure, but dated isn't the same as bad.
And you can absolutely read the Let's Plays without knowledge of the series. 4 is really where it started having a more concrete canon anyway (I say 4 because in establishing that concrete canon 1-3 were retconned like mad) so technically you'll be seeing all the parts of it that matter.
the more I watch LPs the more I want to do one but I'm not sure I'll have what it take to LP the game I really want since it's fairly long. If I do commit I'll start of with a test video of a shorter game just to get an idea of how much time all the technical stuff takes.
Before I do though I have a few questions if you guys don't mind:
video length: do people prefer the ten minute youtube videos as it perhaps makes it easier to watch, or the larger 40 minute+ videos due to the lack of gaps. I know personal preference is a large factor but I'm thinking i n terms of watchability.
audio: does anyone find any difference in terms of letting fraps record audio rather than recording audio seperate, or is seperate recording just an added hassle?
equipment: what kind of headsets/mics do you use to record? I have one but if it was too poor quality (it shouldn't be) I'd pick up another
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edited July 2010
Video length is hard to give a concrete answer to. Sometimes 10 minutes feels bad because it's just meeting the YouTube length (well, it's like 11 minutes now, but still). 40 minutes on the other hand can seem like too long. And splitting a video that's original a half hour into 3 YouTubes feels really dirty-cut to me (I seriously have a thing with it, but again, I'm answering on my personal preferences).
BUT, the 10 minute thing can work well if you're doing a game that's relatively short when it comes to stages. Like Mario. Fit a few stages into each video, boom boom boom. Even if the stages are long, 10 minutes is fine (and if you have to split a video for a single stage that's like 16 minutes, do 8 and 8 minute videos, don't do 10 then 6) (but that could be my nuance thing speaking).
I can't answer your audio question because I haven't tried it myself.
As for your mic, you can always test it out in Ventrilo or with some pre-recording to have us test via listening to. If an old mic sounds good, it sounds good and that's what counts.
In general, you have the right idea with starting with a shorter game. Something you'll need in doing an LP is patience. Not just in all the post work, but patience in spacing out your play time (if you're doing any community-interactive stuff with the LP, like my dumb voting things for my SF2 LP).
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edited July 2010
Holy fuck an LP of MDK? I've gotta watch that when the time comes when I'm able to. I like his intro images by the way.
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edited July 2010
Optimal set duration is entirely dependent on the game. All my LPs so far have been STALKER games and there's almost never really any good, clear points to stop at for those games. So I just go along until I have roughly enough video and edit it all down to about 30-40 minutes of actual LP video. I figure anything longer than that and the sets start to become a chore to watch. 30 minutes is actually my target, but there's virtually always some spillover into a fourth vid.
And I'd like to be able to put everything into one vid, but frankly it's just easier to use Youtube than risk losing an entire LP because a site randomly deletes your vids for some inexplicable reason. There are a number of LPs which have been lost this way and it's a shame every time. It can also make the upload process easier since having two smaller uploads go through and two smaller uploads fail is a lot less time wasted than having one huge file fail at the 90% mark.
For a mic, you want something with decent quality and won't pick up your breathing all the time. And I always record my audio through FRAPS while recording the LP videos, but that's just how my LPs work. FRAPS does a pretty great job overall; I've got nearly 200 videos uploaded and I've never had it desync the audio and video a single time.
To anyone who does console capture, should there be such a huge desync between audio and video? I figure it's because I'm using a dinky laptop that isn't meant for such intense work.
To anyone who does console capture, should there be such a huge desync between audio and video? I figure it's because I'm using a dinky laptop that isn't meant for such intense work.
Depends. The thing I'm capturing with doesn't have a sync problem by itself, but if I record the game sound & mic into audacity there's a sync issue for me (audacity sound seems to be slower than game sound). The difference, however, is negligible in a 10 minute video.
When does the desync happen? Is it immediate or after a certain amount of minutes? One of those happens when you record long videos while the other usually means your processor isn't up to snuff.
When does the desync happen? Is it immediate or after a certain amount of minutes? One of those happens when you record long videos while the other usually means your processor isn't up to snuff.
Probably that second one, then. My test videos were using a plug and play BeJeweled.
100 is kind of a lot for a single update. I'd say closer to 50. Unless we're just talking about shots taken and not necessarily used, in which case take as many as you want.
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edited July 2010
I've done around 100 for every update I've done, give or take 20. It's kind of how I chart progress and know when to stop.
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Like I've said before, I'm aiming to not be over 90 in my SF2 at all, but trying to be under 70 if at all possible. 50 sounds like a sweet spot in general. But I think the problem is the format of the game. So... what can you do.
100 is way too much.
Next update to the thread won't come 'til there's a significant amount to do. By the way, Chrome is a piece of crap browser because it doesn't play well with this forum's post making / editing mechanics. It's still you'd only notice if you do all the formatting like I'd do. :?
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Oh gee where have I heard this before? <_<
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Next up I'll do two LPs simultaneously: Damnation and Necrovision!
Threads for those will start "soon,tm"
Also, Damnation is a piece of shit.
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Of course I don't have any idea what I'd want to play, but...yeah I don't really know where I was going with this.
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Doing nothing costs money.
Aces Wild is a pretty stellar game.
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Should I have separate threads for Necrovision and Damnation or should I have one thread?
I'm leaning towards two cause it's more organized.
Also, I haven't been paid yet and my job is part time hours so I'm still broke and doing shit all with my time. :P
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They are ungodly awful to actually try to play.
Edit - I tried again shortly after and I did stuff like pick up cheese and bread at a farm, or something. I think. If I was older I would've tried more of the game.
And you can absolutely read the Let's Plays without knowledge of the series. 4 is really where it started having a more concrete canon anyway (I say 4 because in establishing that concrete canon 1-3 were retconned like mad) so technically you'll be seeing all the parts of it that matter.
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Those LPs are fantastic. Martian Dreams especially.
Before I do though I have a few questions if you guys don't mind:
video length: do people prefer the ten minute youtube videos as it perhaps makes it easier to watch, or the larger 40 minute+ videos due to the lack of gaps. I know personal preference is a large factor but I'm thinking i n terms of watchability.
audio: does anyone find any difference in terms of letting fraps record audio rather than recording audio seperate, or is seperate recording just an added hassle?
equipment: what kind of headsets/mics do you use to record? I have one but if it was too poor quality (it shouldn't be) I'd pick up another
BUT, the 10 minute thing can work well if you're doing a game that's relatively short when it comes to stages. Like Mario. Fit a few stages into each video, boom boom boom. Even if the stages are long, 10 minutes is fine (and if you have to split a video for a single stage that's like 16 minutes, do 8 and 8 minute videos, don't do 10 then 6) (but that could be my nuance thing speaking).
I can't answer your audio question because I haven't tried it myself.
As for your mic, you can always test it out in Ventrilo or with some pre-recording to have us test via listening to. If an old mic sounds good, it sounds good and that's what counts.
In general, you have the right idea with starting with a shorter game. Something you'll need in doing an LP is patience. Not just in all the post work, but patience in spacing out your play time (if you're doing any community-interactive stuff with the LP, like my dumb voting things for my SF2 LP).
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And I'd like to be able to put everything into one vid, but frankly it's just easier to use Youtube than risk losing an entire LP because a site randomly deletes your vids for some inexplicable reason. There are a number of LPs which have been lost this way and it's a shame every time. It can also make the upload process easier since having two smaller uploads go through and two smaller uploads fail is a lot less time wasted than having one huge file fail at the 90% mark.
For a mic, you want something with decent quality and won't pick up your breathing all the time. And I always record my audio through FRAPS while recording the LP videos, but that's just how my LPs work. FRAPS does a pretty great job overall; I've got nearly 200 videos uploaded and I've never had it desync the audio and video a single time.
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Depends. The thing I'm capturing with doesn't have a sync problem by itself, but if I record the game sound & mic into audacity there's a sync issue for me (audacity sound seems to be slower than game sound). The difference, however, is negligible in a 10 minute video.
Aces Wild is a pretty stellar game.
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I'm at over 200 for this one update and I'm not even done with it (obviously I'm not using all of them, of course, but it's still impressive!).
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Probably that second one, then. My test videos were using a plug and play BeJeweled.
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Good rule of thumb is to try and cap it at around 100 per update, give or take; personally anyway.
100 is way too much.
Next update to the thread won't come 'til there's a significant amount to do. By the way, Chrome is a piece of crap browser because it doesn't play well with this forum's post making / editing mechanics. It's still you'd only notice if you do all the formatting like I'd do. :?