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VMware Fusion 3 - The Answer to our Prayers?

wirespeedwirespeed Registered User regular
Full article here at Ars Technica, but highlights include:
  • Snow Leopard Support (no word on whether/how it works in Leopard that I've seen)
  • Native 64-bit Application (take that Adobe!)
  • Support for Windows 7
  • Support for Aero in Windows 7
  • Optimization for XP and Windows 7 (take that Vista!)
  • OpenGL 2.1 and DirectX 9.0c Shader Model 3 aka GAMING SUPPORT
  • Better Migration Assistant for existing PCs
  • Better Unity integration of Windows into your Mac (if you're in to that)
I cannot wait to upgrade!

More here, with screenshots spoilered below:
Windows 7
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Migration Assistant
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Left 4 Dead being played in a Window
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  • TertieeTertiee Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Playing Left 4 Dead is pretty impressive but I get the impression that I'll still have to use Boot Camp for gaming on my aging Macbook Pro.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nice. I'm glad I didn't buy VMWare Fusion 2 on sale a few weeks back. This looks much better and I imagine the upgrade wouldn't have been free.

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  • wirespeedwirespeed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Tertiee wrote: »
    Playing Left 4 Dead is pretty impressive but I get the impression that I'll still have to use Boot Camp for gaming on my aging Macbook Pro.
    Yeah, gaming performance is definitely going to be hit or miss depending upon which Mac you have, but it's still nice to have the option.

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  • TertieeTertiee Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    The upgrade version is $39.99 compared to the full price $79.99.

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  • wirespeedwirespeed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Tertiee wrote: »
    The upgrade version is $39.99 compared to the full price $79.99.
    The upgrade is also free if you buy Fusion 2 nowish.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Tertiee wrote: »
    The upgrade version is $39.99 compared to the full price $79.99.

    The price a few weeks back was $30. So I would have saved $10. Oh well.

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Umm, guys...

    I just ran VMWare Fusion and it noticed an update was available (to 2.0.6).. notice what it says in the release notes:
    VMWare wrote:
    # Provides experimental support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Server as a guest operating system (32-bit only)
    # Provides experimental support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard as a host operating system (32-bit only)

    VMWare Fusion 3 not needed, although VMWare Fusion is easily the best VM software available on the mac by light years.

    I'm downloading this update as fast as I can, always wanted to play around in OSX in a VM.

    EDIT: Ah, nuts.. server. I always miss that.

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  • NeoElectronautNeoElectronaut __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    If I can boot into Windows 7 and play Left 4 Dead nearly flawlessly you've got me a sale, but it's yet to be seen how well this'll work so I'm hesitant to get excited.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I bought VMWare Fusion 2.0 on sale a while back, then I ended up with Parallels somehow and I pretty much only use Parallels now because it feels a lot faster and doesn't use like all my Macs memory only to still page constantly.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    i run fusion 2 just fine on my snow leopard machine. though if it is improved that is a different story

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  • wirespeedwirespeed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I bought VMWare Fusion 2.0 on sale a while back, then I ended up with Parallels somehow and I pretty much only use Parallels now because it feels a lot faster and doesn't use like all my Macs memory only to still page constantly.
    How much memory are you allocating to your VMs with VMware? I have 4GB total on my MBP, and normally allocate 2GB to a VM (with 2 left for OS X), and I've never had the paging issues you describe.

    I also did a fair bit of research before deciding to go with Fusion over Parallels, and everything I read said that at present, VMware's product was ahead of Parallels in terms of performance.

    That said, I'm glad there's competition between the products, because it makes them both better, and I'm glad Parallels works better for whatever you.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I'll be all over this when it comes out.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    wirespeed wrote: »
    I bought VMWare Fusion 2.0 on sale a while back, then I ended up with Parallels somehow and I pretty much only use Parallels now because it feels a lot faster and doesn't use like all my Macs memory only to still page constantly.
    How much memory are you allocating to your VMs with VMware? I have 4GB total on my MBP, and normally allocate 2GB to a VM (with 2 left for OS X), and I've never had the paging issues you describe.

    I also did a fair bit of research before deciding to go with Fusion over Parallels, and everything I read said that at present, VMware's product was ahead of Parallels in terms of performance.

    That said, I'm glad there's competition between the products, because it makes them both better, and I'm glad Parallels works better for whatever you.

    I only have 2 GB (older Macbook Pro, only came with 1, wish to god I'd upgraded it to 3 now). So I don't give VM's any more than 512, and so I understand if the VM wants to page a lot but then everything in OS X becomes unbearably slow and the whole thing gets pretty infuriating.

    Like, when a I run a 512MB VM of some ancient Linux or Windows that only needs that much in VMWare Fusion, OS X starts to feel like it only has 512 MB itself and I'm wondering, "where did the other 1 GB go?"

    Honestly I mainly used VMWare Fusion to avoid booting into Windows XP to run Visual Studio, so of course VS is a huge hog. I don't do this any more because VMWareTools really fucked up Boot Camp (as does ParallelsTools), so I don't use either product all that much.

    Honestly I have such an easy time getting into page city with 2 GB even without running a VM it's depressing.

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  • wirespeedwirespeed Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sorry to hear that as that kinda sucks for you. :(

    There is a setting in VMware's general preferences where you can specify if you want it to 'Optimize for virtual machine disk performance' or 'Optimize for Mac OS application performance' if you ever want to give it another go (though unlikely based on your experiences).

    Anyway, it's possible the new version will make things better for you as it promises to be less CPU/Memory intensive, so if they offer a trial it might be worth a shot.

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  • LoneIgadzraLoneIgadzra Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yeah I will probably check it out. (Though the upgrade would cost more than it cost me to buy the software originally. :P )

    Edit: Just bit the bullet and ordered a 2 GB RAM module to replace the 1 GB chip I already added. Should have just maxed in in the first place, tired of bitching about this. I have to use Eclipse all the time for my job and it's an absolutely insane RAM hog.

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