Of course, there are hitches to this mode. For starters, you can only use Created Superstars 10 times in a given story. Mind you, that's not 10 different Superstars; that's 10 appearances by a given hero. Maybe your one CAS is in five matches and five scenes, but you get just those 10 slots. Toss in a second CAS, and the number begins dropping even faster. Personally, I don't get why this restriction exists because I know how many of you were dying to take your cast of created crazies and insert them into tales all their own -- and I know I was excited to give Gruesome Greggy's BYWF counterparts some limelight -- but it is what it is. It sucks, but it doesn't overshadow how awesome it's going to be to take any of the 67 Superstars/Divas, as well as a handful of NPCs, and put them into plays written and directed by you.
That is really, really lame.
Another nice addition is the move to one reversal button. No longer will you have to click one button to reverse strikes and another to reverse grapples; now, one shoulder button does it all. It might sound easy, but you only get one shot at tapping the reversal for a given move and the window is pretty tiny. I've been playing quite a bit, and I only now feel like I'm getting in the rhythm for when to properly use it. Being able to duck under HBK's superkick after he's gone through the whole rigmarole or wiggle off of Cena's shoulder before he can deliver the FU is an amazing feeling -- especially when it looks this good and is accessible enough that you never feel completely out of a match.
That CAS limit seems really strange. Like, I can't think of a good reason to impose that.
Keeps the file size down.
But IGN has already said the point values for most items are so low you don't even notice it and that a bunch of the add-on graphics layers (like rectangles and circles and shit) cost 0 points.
That CAS limit seems really strange. Like, I can't think of a good reason to impose that.
Keeps the file size down.
But IGN has already said the point values for most items are so low you don't even notice it and that a bunch of the add-on graphics layers (like rectangles and circles and shit) cost 0 points.
Hes talking about the story mode, which, once you've got the CAW featured once, featuring it 20 times makes no difference thus the very strange limit.
To be fair, if I download a storyline from someone else, I don't want it focus on a bunch of silly looking made-up dudes, so I'm actually OK with this. I'm not real big on the Create-A-Wrestler stuff in general. Takes a lot of time to make a guy that will never look as good as the real character models in the game.
I like create a wrestler, because I don't follow the current storylines and usually don't know half the roster and weep for the half I do likes actual career.
Also I like the non registered finishers more than the crap they do on tv. I was super sad when the smackdown games started to use how the moves look like on tv instead of what the move is intended to do.
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I exclusively play as CAWs. That's just the RPG geek in me coming out. I have no problem having my CAW interact exclusively with Superstars, but it seems incredibly lame that my storylines will only be able to have 10 appearances by my CAW. I guess you'll have to string them together like monthly episodes.
Though I can't say I'm too pissed because CAS for me was just a neat thing to play with. But I do think it has a large effect on replayability.
Honestly Im mostly concerned because in a basic story mode your CAW will appear in scenes so will I be able to create an awesome story mode to make up for the lackluster one provided and take my CAW through it or am I fucked and stuck with HHH?
I just realized another reason. What do a lot of people use CAW for? Creating wrestlers not in the game, retired, dead, etc. So its safe to assume people would us CAS to reacreate old storylines with these wrestlers not under the WWE. That's just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
A lot of people use CAW for that? Like Carcass I play exclusively as a CAW, I have no interest in the current roster and even if I did I'd rather make my own guy than play someone else and overcome all the established superstars. Playing Undertaker and overcoming isn't very...fun.
Seems kind of illogical to buy a wrestling game with a roster that you have no interest in. I am in the boat where I would rather there was no create-a(n)-X at all so they could focus on the core game more.
Seems kind of illogical to buy a wrestling game with a roster that you have no interest in. I am in the boat where I would rather there was no create-a(n)-X at all so they could focus on the core game more.
Playing a caw is like a wrestling rpg, you level your dude up take on bosses avoid devastating criticals (the pedigree) come out on top and win the game.
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Pushing their current dvd programs and shit then former awesome stars. At this point they should have a wwe game purely made up of retired stars. But they won't because a lot of the cool ones wound up jarretts shit promotion and vince is a petulant child.
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Pushing their current dvd programs and shit then former awesome stars. At this point they should have a wwe game purely made up of retired stars. But they won't because a lot of the cool ones wound up jarretts shit promotion and vince is a petulant child.
Isn't that what the Legends of Wrestlemania game is?
Honestly Im not expecting much, I bet therell be a limt on how long your story can be and other things which show not so much how lame t hey can be as much as ultimately revealing the true technical limitations of the engine. I mean I was watching someone play Fifa 10 and youve got an entire team on screen PLUS a non cardboard, non-shitty looking audience and I dont think Ive ever seen more than 4 wrestler/non-audience members on screen at the same time so I'm guessing at max you can go to 6. Honestly I just hope they've fixed Rumble. Getting from 1 to the finish? Awesome. Getting picked up, fucked over in some way 10 seconds from the finish and instant knocked out because TWO people push instead of one? Fuck that bullshit, should be last minute catches and all the crap they have in the show PLUS the ability to exit the ring through other ropes and fuck about while others try to throw you back in.
Pushing their current dvd programs and shit then former awesome stars. At this point they should have a wwe game purely made up of retired stars. But they won't because a lot of the cool ones wound up jarretts shit promotion and vince is a petulant child.
Yeah, fuck Vince for not wanting to give advertising to his competitors.
I only followed the WWE in the 80s and some in the 90s, same with all my friends. I don't even know half the guys on the rosters of these new games. I just expect to see Hogan, Stone Cold and The Rock at least when I get a wrestling game. I can't imagine they're hurting for disk space, and I'm sure anyone over 25 is probably in the same boat as me.
It's not really a deal breaker, but it's a big disappointment.
I'm pretty sure Foley was in 08, and they just put out that Legends of Wrestlemania game with Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock, Andre the Giant, and a ton of others, so I'm sure they still have the rights.
Pushing their current dvd programs and shit then former awesome stars. At this point they should have a wwe game purely made up of retired stars. But they won't because a lot of the cool ones wound up jarretts shit promotion and vince is a petulant child.
Yeah, fuck Vince for not wanting to give advertising to his competitors.
Look seeing old dudley boys doesn't make me want to watch TNA. Put on a better product and you have nothing to worry about.
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I sent one of my writers to THQ's headquarters last week to check out the game the article's at home but he was raving about it. I'm not a huge wresling fan myself so I can't comment.
Playing a caw is like a wrestling rpg, you level your dude up take on bosses avoid devastating criticals (the pedigree) come out on top and win the game.
Having create modes also allows people to keep the game more up to date, by creating new wrestlers. Plus making guys from other companies that will never have their own game(ROH, for example). Plus creating original guys is fun. I like using the actual roser, too, but the create modes give the game much more staying power.
A wrestling game with CAW is instant fail. It is one of the most popular, essential parts of any wrestling game. I would not purchase a game that did not have it.
Well, they're obviously releasing a new Smackdown game every year. They also have the option of downloadable content. So how much does "staying power" really matter anymore? It was more of a big deal back during the N64 days when online play wasn't an expected feature.
They also decide to make major and usually awful changes every year, so buying the next version isn't a given. See: myself and my friends who are still playing 07 and 08 because 09 was terrible.
Playing a caw is like a wrestling rpg, you level your dude up take on bosses avoid devastating criticals (the pedigree) come out on top and win the game.
So why not just buy an RPG game?
Because you don't get to play a wrestler in an RPG? I mean honestly I don't see why its an issue to play caw only and treat the rest of the lineup as your npc bitches.
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Because the stories can be downloaded. You can't use a story with a created wrestler in it if you don't have the created wrestler on your hard drive.
Well, if the game doesn't allow for imported graphics, all it needs is a kind of saved 'checklist' that it can then rebuild the CAW in your game. It wouldn't be that hard.
Basically the engine is horribly inefficient. It has increased polydongs every game but they still look and move like plastic, the audience are just not there, nothing particularly improves and yet the loading for basic shit takes ages which just isn't acceptable in games anymore, not with the kind of hardware we have at our disposal.
As long as the majority of the fan base keeps shelling out the dollars each and every year for the newest, most updated game, I can't foresee a lot of changes to the core game. A few new perks, a couple bells and whistles...that's about it.
Like I said earlier, I still play Here Comes the Pain. Of course, a few handful of people waiting for the next "good" wrestling title won't make any lick of difference when we're each replaced by two or three newer, younger fans.
I mean, obviously there is still a reason that they're putting in the Diva stuff in each title. There's a market for it somewhere!
Basically the engine is horribly inefficient. It has increased polydongs every game but they still look and move like plastic, the audience are just not there, nothing particularly improves and yet the loading for basic shit takes ages which just isn't acceptable in games anymore, not with the kind of hardware we have at our disposal.
It does kind of depend on what is loading, but yeah, a wrestling game shouldn't be all that complicated.
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That is really, really lame.
This on the other hand seems good.
Meh.
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Keeps the file size down.
But IGN has already said the point values for most items are so low you don't even notice it and that a bunch of the add-on graphics layers (like rectangles and circles and shit) cost 0 points.
Hes talking about the story mode, which, once you've got the CAW featured once, featuring it 20 times makes no difference thus the very strange limit.
Hmm.
Well it could be-no...that's stupid.
Or maybe it's-Nah, they're not that crazy.
Perhaps it's-Couldn't be.
Oh I know.
Because the stories can be downloaded. You can't use a story with a created wrestler in it if you don't have the created wrestler on your hard drive.
But they allow them to be present in story mode so its not like its disallowed, just some strange reason you can only make them appear a few times.
"No you must play through HHH new homosexual adventure to unlock your caw content!" FUCK YOU 09 YOUR STORYMODE WAS BRAIN CANCER!
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Also I like the non registered finishers more than the crap they do on tv. I was super sad when the smackdown games started to use how the moves look like on tv instead of what the move is intended to do.
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Though I can't say I'm too pissed because CAS for me was just a neat thing to play with. But I do think it has a large effect on replayability.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
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Playing a caw is like a wrestling rpg, you level your dude up take on bosses avoid devastating criticals (the pedigree) come out on top and win the game.
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Hogan sucks, this game benefits without him. Sides they didn't have stonecold last year either.
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I would submit, SIR, that in fact YOU SUCK and are not a REAL AMERICAN and that you can't have a WWE game without Hogan.
No Stone Cold is pretty hurting as well. What are they thinking?
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Isn't that what the Legends of Wrestlemania game is?
Honestly Im not expecting much, I bet therell be a limt on how long your story can be and other things which show not so much how lame t hey can be as much as ultimately revealing the true technical limitations of the engine. I mean I was watching someone play Fifa 10 and youve got an entire team on screen PLUS a non cardboard, non-shitty looking audience and I dont think Ive ever seen more than 4 wrestler/non-audience members on screen at the same time so I'm guessing at max you can go to 6. Honestly I just hope they've fixed Rumble. Getting from 1 to the finish? Awesome. Getting picked up, fucked over in some way 10 seconds from the finish and instant knocked out because TWO people push instead of one? Fuck that bullshit, should be last minute catches and all the crap they have in the show PLUS the ability to exit the ring through other ropes and fuck about while others try to throw you back in.
Yeah, fuck Vince for not wanting to give advertising to his competitors.
It's not really a deal breaker, but it's a big disappointment.
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Look seeing old dudley boys doesn't make me want to watch TNA. Put on a better product and you have nothing to worry about.
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We'll have our review up this weekend I believe.
So why not just buy an RPG game?
A wrestling game with CAW is instant fail. It is one of the most popular, essential parts of any wrestling game. I would not purchase a game that did not have it.
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Also the gameplay is terrible, but you'd have to get that far to notice.
Because you don't get to play a wrestler in an RPG? I mean honestly I don't see why its an issue to play caw only and treat the rest of the lineup as your npc bitches.
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Well, if the game doesn't allow for imported graphics, all it needs is a kind of saved 'checklist' that it can then rebuild the CAW in your game. It wouldn't be that hard.
Just Bring it Had almost no load times.
Like I said earlier, I still play Here Comes the Pain. Of course, a few handful of people waiting for the next "good" wrestling title won't make any lick of difference when we're each replaced by two or three newer, younger fans.
I mean, obviously there is still a reason that they're putting in the Diva stuff in each title. There's a market for it somewhere!
It does kind of depend on what is loading, but yeah, a wrestling game shouldn't be all that complicated.