Circle ( O ) was Irish Whip
O + Direction was a quick front grapple move/back strong grapple
Stunned Opponent + O + Direction was your front strong grapple.
You only had 8 moves from the front and 4 from the back.
There are plenty of quick grapple and striking moves that put your opponent into the stunned state for Signature/Finisher moves. You don't need to use the Toe Kick exclusively.
Someone has to teach me about grappling. And how to store finishers.
I have no idea how to store finishers. I saw HBK in a match with Fx3 next to his little hud once and was like "HOW DO YOU DO THAT?!" It might be a wrestler perk ability.
It is a special ability, I think it is the Fired Up ability where when activated lets you do 3 finishers in a row
Someone has to teach me about grappling. And how to store finishers.
I have no idea how to store finishers. I saw HBK in a match with Fx3 next to his little hud once and was like "HOW DO YOU DO THAT?!" It might be a wrestler perk ability.
It is a special ability, I think it is the Fired Up ability where when activated lets you do 3 finishers in a row
Other then that you can't store finishers
Ah, ok. I haven't played online at all. Can we have our own custom matches with slow momentum build up?
Are there actually 4 different strong grapple options now? Before there were 4 directions, but 2 of them were the same and one of them was submissions. Plus, there were only like 4 different strong grapple options anyway.
There hasn't been stored finishers for a bit. If you stored your bar it became a signature move (that's how it worked in 08 and 09 as well, iirc).
Are there actually 4 different strong grapple options now? Before there were 4 directions, but 2 of them were the same and one of them was submissions. Plus, there were only like 4 different strong grapple options anyway.
There hasn't been stored finishers for a bit. If you stored your bar it became a signature move (that's how it worked in 08 and 09 as well, iirc).
Yes, there are actually 4 strong grapple positions now. Submissions and the ultimate control stuff has been changed a bit. Now you click the right stick after after going into a strong grapple to go into a submission hold. I think you get into the ultimate control moves by using the left strong grapple then down or the right strong grapple then down. It doesn't take up the whole direction like it did in last year's game, just one move slot.
Signatures aren't stored anymore either. You get it when your momentum is almost full, if you hit it you're momentum fills the rest of the way and you're ready for you finisher. It isn't required to get your finisher though, you still get it if you fill the rest of the meter.
Speaking of signature moves, what are they and how many do each character have?
I was HBK and figured it was his top rope elbow drop but nadda.
I think everyone usually has 2 signatures and 2 finishers. They work just like the finishers, they're just signature moves people use. Jericho has his lionsault, Undertaker has old school, Cena has his 5 knuckle shuffle, etc.
They REALLY need to get a new developer on this series.. There's animations that if not they're not the same ones from the first one, are just barely retouched.
HtCP was pretty much the pinnacle of the series, though the first Smackdown vs. Raw was good too.
You would think that something like procedural animations a la Rockstar's latest engine would do a wrestling game all kinds of justice.
Hell, if Rockstar were to create a completely fictitious (hahaha) wrestling league based game using that tech, especially if it was done in the style of classic 50s wrestling, that could be a real killer.
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Only thing that bothers me significantly: Shitty auto targeting that cannot be fixed by the shitty manual targeting.
For reasons that I can't figure out, in Tornado Tag matches, an opponent can be beating on me and doing grapple moves, but as soon as I get up I'm still looking at his partner up the ramp. If I switch to Manual targeting, unless the targets are far apart, it can be hard to tell who you're looking at. So if an opponent is on the floor next to a standing opponent, and I think I'm aiming for the downed one, I end up dropkicking the standing one.
I know they want minimal HUD but some kind of unobtrusive icon would do wonders for manual targeting.
Ah, there is a target indicator option. I'll see if that improves it.
New thought: The button for taking down the ladder should never ever be the same button used for climbing the ladder.
Has anyone successfully dived off a ladder onto a tabled opponent? It's hard to set up and I haven't done it yet, possibly because of the above difficulty. Also, you can lean a ladder onto another ladder - what sort of tricks can you do with this set up?
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Created an entrance movie. Kinda sucks that I can't add my own text (unless I missed something), but I made a decent one for now. I went the Yoshi Tatsu route and have the video of me beating up Shelton Benjamin. Can't go wrong with that.
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If anyone has the 360 version and Live, I wouldn't mind some thoughts on the El Generico CAW I just posted. It's unfinished, I still need to to the moves/entrance, the "Ole!" design on the back of his tights, and add a little smoothing out the lines on his mask design, but overall so far I'm pretty proud of it.
Unfortunatey, I can't seem to find my webcam to snap a pic. Here's what he looks like in real life:
I've uploaded what I have so far. My Live tag is LockedOnTarget, and I put search tags of "Generico," "Ring of Honor," and "ROH" on it.
Edit: Another gripe I just remembered. THERE'S NO FUCKING RANDOM BUTTON ON THE WRESTLER SELECT SCREEN. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!!!!!!!!!
If you haven't figured it out yet, when you press X (or square) on the wrestler select screen there is indeed a random option.
I figured this out completely on accident. I raged about it because when you hit Back for the "Help" screen, IT'S NOT FUCKING ON THERE. I don't understand why!
I'm still going through career mode. I've captured the Cruiserweight, the IC, the United States, the Hardcore and now I'm working on the ECW belt. One thing I noticed is that the paths get more difficult as you get closer to the champion. I had a real tough time beating Tommy Dreamer for the #1 contendership and then an even tougher match against JBL for the Hardcore title. The first three matches were a breeze.
Which brings me to another issue with CaS'. So they stated that this year you can't put the experience points you earn into any stat you want, that way you can create the guy the way you wanted. NOT SO FAST. See, the thing they still did was make the cap based on your playstyle. For example, my Lucha started out with a max speed of 40. I could get 100 experience points and I still couldn't make it any higher than 40. Unless I started doing top rope moves and such. It's now up to the full 99. But what's not is my Technical or Submission. They're still down around 50 cap and I have something like 80 experience points sitting around doing nothing. To raise both those caps, I have to reverse a lot of moves and make guys submit/break out of submission holds. That's bullshit because it pretty much ruins what they were going for. If I can create my stats the way I want them, then my play style shouldn't come into effect at all.
And I also messed around with the Community section last night. I discovered a few something I didn't like. The search results max out at 50. Which isn't so bad for wrestlers because of the keyword search. If I wanted to find all Austins, I'd just type in "Austin" to keyword. It's a bitch for Storylines and Finishers though. Sometimes you don't know what you're looking for and just want to browse cool shit. But I guarantee with a cap of 50 that you miss out on some of that cool shit. It sucks. It'd be nice if they raised the cap to, oh, I don't know, unlmited. But made it 50 results per page.
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I haven't minded the leveling system too much. Yeah, it'd be nice to put points wherever I want whenever, but I think I have 5 unused points at the moment. I usually unlock at least 1 new stat level per match, usually 2 or 3. It will start to suck when I'm trying to grind submissions or hardcore, but I can live with it. The only thing that bothers me about it is sometimes the unlocks seem arbitrary, like I'll spend the whole match punching, only grappling to do a finisher, yet Strikes won't go up but Grapple will.
I person posted a vid on youtube of ne of his matches saying that whoever he fought lagged alot...but as the video played, it didn't look like it lagged at all. Weird.
So, have you guys created anything yet? I am working on a story for a little project I want to try. And then I have Gabe and Tycho as wip.
I'm working on a hellishly intricate storyline. I can let anyone who's interested see a preview but I'd rather release it when it's all said and done. It has drama, suspense, meta jokes about wrestling and more.
I really want to play some Live matches, and can for the next hour or so. I'll be on later tonight too. GT: Stevo22.
If anyone has the 360 version and Live, I wouldn't mind some thoughts on the El Generico CAW I just posted. It's unfinished, I still need to to the moves/entrance, the "Ole!" design on the back of his tights, and add a little smoothing out the lines on his mask design, but overall so far I'm pretty proud of it.
Unfortunatey, I can't seem to find my webcam to snap a pic. Here's what he looks like in real life:
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I've uploaded what I have so far. My Live tag is LockedOnTarget, and I put search tags of "Generico," "Ring of Honor," and "ROH" on it.
It looks great. After you smooth the lines on the mask a bit and add the ¡Ole! it'll be perfect.
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RB+Rstick up....then once there, one of four direction.
Same with Rstick down, left, and right. Gotcha. I have a lot to get used to.
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Circle ( O ) was Irish Whip
O + Direction was a quick front grapple move/back strong grapple
Stunned Opponent + O + Direction was your front strong grapple.
You only had 8 moves from the front and 4 from the back.
There should be something like 4 ways to activate a finisher from different angles like using a spear from the mat or from the top of a turnbuckle.
If you haven't figured it out yet, when you press X (or square) on the wrestler select screen there is indeed a random option.
Do the tutorial. I haven't played a SD game this gen, and after the tutorial I was ready to go.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
I find the tutorial kind of dumb. It only tells you things if you are in that position.
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It is a special ability, I think it is the Fired Up ability where when activated lets you do 3 finishers in a row
Other then that you can't store finishers
Ah, ok. I haven't played online at all. Can we have our own custom matches with slow momentum build up?
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Just look at the checklist, it shows what position you need to be in and what buttons you need to use. Then if you need to you can try it out.
There hasn't been stored finishers for a bit. If you stored your bar it became a signature move (that's how it worked in 08 and 09 as well, iirc).
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I was HBK and figured it was his top rope elbow drop but nadda.
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Yes, there are actually 4 strong grapple positions now. Submissions and the ultimate control stuff has been changed a bit. Now you click the right stick after after going into a strong grapple to go into a submission hold. I think you get into the ultimate control moves by using the left strong grapple then down or the right strong grapple then down. It doesn't take up the whole direction like it did in last year's game, just one move slot.
Signatures aren't stored anymore either. You get it when your momentum is almost full, if you hit it you're momentum fills the rest of the way and you're ready for you finisher. It isn't required to get your finisher though, you still get it if you fill the rest of the meter.
I think everyone usually has 2 signatures and 2 finishers. They work just like the finishers, they're just signature moves people use. Jericho has his lionsault, Undertaker has old school, Cena has his 5 knuckle shuffle, etc.
You would think that something like procedural animations a la Rockstar's latest engine would do a wrestling game all kinds of justice.
Hell, if Rockstar were to create a completely fictitious (hahaha) wrestling league based game using that tech, especially if it was done in the style of classic 50s wrestling, that could be a real killer.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
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Was going to make an Owen Hart joke but I'll pass.
Has anyone tried making a story yet? Do they have length limits? Can you make story brances?
For reasons that I can't figure out, in Tornado Tag matches, an opponent can be beating on me and doing grapple moves, but as soon as I get up I'm still looking at his partner up the ramp. If I switch to Manual targeting, unless the targets are far apart, it can be hard to tell who you're looking at. So if an opponent is on the floor next to a standing opponent, and I think I'm aiming for the downed one, I end up dropkicking the standing one.
I know they want minimal HUD but some kind of unobtrusive icon would do wonders for manual targeting.
I saw that you can create alternate outfits for superstars. Is that right? So, I can have a regular Edge and then one with a Phillies jersey on?
I also downloaded an AJ Styles edit before I left for work. Anyone see any other good created wrestlers out there?
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And also, it won't prompt you once you've checked it off, so if it's still telling you to strong grapple, you have something else to follow that.
No, you can only edit colors on most, though a few have pre-selected alternate outfits.
I'm pretty sure I saw an option to turn targeting indicators on.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
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New thought: The button for taking down the ladder should never ever be the same button used for climbing the ladder.
Has anyone successfully dived off a ladder onto a tabled opponent? It's hard to set up and I haven't done it yet, possibly because of the above difficulty. Also, you can lean a ladder onto another ladder - what sort of tricks can you do with this set up?
I was also fiddling in the create-a-story. Can't wait to use it.
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Man, I wish my copy would get here already.
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Unfortunatey, I can't seem to find my webcam to snap a pic. Here's what he looks like in real life:
I've uploaded what I have so far. My Live tag is LockedOnTarget, and I put search tags of "Generico," "Ring of Honor," and "ROH" on it.
My Let's Play Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC2go70QLfwGq-hW4nvUqmog
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
I figured this out completely on accident. I raged about it because when you hit Back for the "Help" screen, IT'S NOT FUCKING ON THERE. I don't understand why!
I'm still going through career mode. I've captured the Cruiserweight, the IC, the United States, the Hardcore and now I'm working on the ECW belt. One thing I noticed is that the paths get more difficult as you get closer to the champion. I had a real tough time beating Tommy Dreamer for the #1 contendership and then an even tougher match against JBL for the Hardcore title. The first three matches were a breeze.
Which brings me to another issue with CaS'. So they stated that this year you can't put the experience points you earn into any stat you want, that way you can create the guy the way you wanted. NOT SO FAST. See, the thing they still did was make the cap based on your playstyle. For example, my Lucha started out with a max speed of 40. I could get 100 experience points and I still couldn't make it any higher than 40. Unless I started doing top rope moves and such. It's now up to the full 99. But what's not is my Technical or Submission. They're still down around 50 cap and I have something like 80 experience points sitting around doing nothing. To raise both those caps, I have to reverse a lot of moves and make guys submit/break out of submission holds. That's bullshit because it pretty much ruins what they were going for. If I can create my stats the way I want them, then my play style shouldn't come into effect at all.
And I also messed around with the Community section last night. I discovered a few something I didn't like. The search results max out at 50. Which isn't so bad for wrestlers because of the keyword search. If I wanted to find all Austins, I'd just type in "Austin" to keyword. It's a bitch for Storylines and Finishers though. Sometimes you don't know what you're looking for and just want to browse cool shit. But I guarantee with a cap of 50 that you miss out on some of that cool shit. It sucks. It'd be nice if they raised the cap to, oh, I don't know, unlmited. But made it 50 results per page.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
Not set on the faces, but that is what I have so far.
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I'm working on a hellishly intricate storyline. I can let anyone who's interested see a preview but I'd rather release it when it's all said and done. It has drama, suspense, meta jokes about wrestling and more.
I really want to play some Live matches, and can for the next hour or so. I'll be on later tonight too. GT: Stevo22.
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It looks great. After you smooth the lines on the mask a bit and add the ¡Ole! it'll be perfect.
Now we just need the Brainbustaaaaahhhhh!!!!!
Yea, but his hair is large in the front, not all over.
I am at the end of Edge's RTW.
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