The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.

Recommend On: A ebook reader

chaosisorderchaosisorder Cupcake Princess and Pinny WhoreOregonRegistered User regular
edited October 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Perused the old threads, but most are over a year old and technology, she changes like the winds. I want an ebook reader because I'll be spending the next several years in and out of the US and transporting books and finding english text won't be easy.

Necessary:

PDF support in some way - seems most of the free sites use PDF
Easy on the eyes for lighting - I r old.
Large book selection - if it's some proprietary format, I want to be able to get a boatload of books
Large storage or ability to add storage
Decent battery life - again, the excessive travel means I won't always have easy access to charging (USB charging readers would greatly please me)


Not terribly necessary:

Wireless downloading - Since I'll frequently be in countries and areas where this would be largely unsupported, I can happily rely on downloading to desktop and transferring
Blarge size - I r not that old.


So who has what readers and what do you love/hate about them? And if you have any favorite sites for books, bring 'em on!

chaosisorder on

Posts

  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    Predictable "Szech has an iPhone post" (seriously, maybe I could just shut up about it for one day?).

    But look, it's got gobs of ebook reader options. If you have a US iTunes account, there's a Kindle application, but there's also a bunch of others like Stanza and eReader, plus there are file transfer programs like Files Lite that will let you wirelessly transfer documents to and from your PC/Mac and your iPhone and have built in viewers for most common formats including PDF, .doc, .docx, .txt etc.

    On top of that, you can buy a lot of books via the app store that come precompiled in reading software not to mention the option to buy them as audio books via iTunes.

    The screen most likely isn't as good as an epaper device like the Kindle but you can adjust the brightness and a lot of the programs mentioned above will freely let you choose text and background colours not to mention change the typeface and font size of the document you are reading so you can find something which is comfortable for yourself.

    I'm saying all this is available on the iPhone but naturally all of the above is also possible on an iPod Touch as well, including wireless transfer of files. The only advantage you'd get on the iPhone is being able to grab stuff off the internet if you aren't near a wifi.

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I know people with kindles that find them to be amazing.

    MushroomStick on
  • futilityfutility Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    I really like mine!

    It doesn't natively handle pdfs, but there are ways around it.

    futility on
  • BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I think the Rex Iliad one handles pdfs. My sister got one a couple of years ago from the States and raves about how great it is.

    It is pretty pricey though (Last time I looked it was around $700 for the 2nd edition, $600 for the 1st, and they keep running out of stock)

    BobCesca on
  • DHS OdiumDHS Odium Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    First, you need to decide if you want an e-ink display. If you do, that completely throws the iPod Touch out. If you haven't seen the digital ink or e-ink displays, you need to go to a store to see them. There is no other way to tell how it looks, none. They look fantastic, but you'll need to provide your own light source.

    There's a smaller Sony one for like $200 that I hear is nice, one of the downsides usually given is it has to get files from your computer, but for you it doesn't sound like that's a problem.

    DHS Odium on
    Wii U: DHS-Odium // Live: DHS Odium // PSN: DHSOdium // Steam: dhsykes // 3DS: 0318-6615-5294
  • MrOlettaMrOletta Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I have a Sony E-Reader, and I love it. I don't regret not getting the Amazon Kindle one bit. File transfer is easy since you can just drop books onto an SD card and pop it in the reader and it will pull them up.

    If you plug the E-Reader in itself, it just acts as a thumb drive and you can drag and drop the books into the appropriate directory and you're good to go.

    The newer version (touch screen) didn't really catch my attention. The screen they added seemed to include a bit of haze, so I stuck to the older (505) non-touch screen version.

    Edit: And if you're seriously into it, I would recommend it bar none over an LCD display/Iphone etc. It's much easier on the eyes.

    MrOletta on
  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    DHS Odium wrote: »
    First, you need to decide if you want an e-ink display. If you do, that completely throws the iPod Touch out. If you haven't seen the digital ink or e-ink displays, you need to go to a store to see them. There is no other way to tell how it looks, none. They look fantastic, but you'll need to provide your own light source.

    There's a smaller Sony one for like $200 that I hear is nice, one of the downsides usually given is it has to get files from your computer, but for you it doesn't sound like that's a problem.

    This is not necessarily a bad thing. I've used my iPhone for pretty extensive periods of time and I'm generally prone to getting headaches from any type of light emitting source so it's not terrible but the e-ink displays are obviously going to have the edge in terms of reducing eye strain as they reflect light rather than emit it directly.

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • blanknogoblanknogo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I really like my Sony PRS-505. The Sony book store is pretty great and it supports a ton of book formats.

    If I could get a Kindle in Canada, I might have considered it. But I think the Sony platform offers a ton a choice in terms of hardware and lots of selection/choice in terms of software.

    blanknogo on
  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    While the normal (i.e. not WTFHUGE) Kindle doesn't natively do PDFs, I've never had trouble with any PDF I've converted to it. And I love this thing, I would guess I put in at least 15 hours a week reading on it.
    blanknogo wrote: »
    If I could get a Kindle in Canada, I might have considered it. But I think the Sony platform offers a ton a choice in terms of hardware and lots of selection/choice in terms of software.

    While obviously too late now for you, it should be thrown out there that Amazon just released an International Kindle.

    Raiden333 on
  • SpamSpam Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    MrOletta wrote: »
    I have a Sony E-Reader, and I love it. I don't regret not getting the Amazon Kindle one bit. File transfer is easy since you can just drop books onto an SD card and pop it in the reader and it will pull them up.

    If you plug the E-Reader in itself, it just acts as a thumb drive and you can drag and drop the books into the appropriate directory and you're good to go.

    The newer version (touch screen) didn't really catch my attention. The screen they added seemed to include a bit of haze, so I stuck to the older (505) non-touch screen version.

    Edit: And if you're seriously into it, I would recommend it bar none over an LCD display/Iphone etc. It's much easier on the eyes.

    This sums up my opinions exactly as well.

    I've got a PRS-505 and I love it - reads pretty much anything i throw at it, and if a file doesn't work straight away, there are cracking freeware apps to convert them to a format that will.

    PDFs work great on it, though if you have one formatted for A4/Letter it may be a bit small to read, can convert comics from cbr/cbz to work fine on it, and SD/Memory stick support means you'll always have enough storage space.

    Spam on
  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    You should probably get the new International Kindle. The ability to buy books right on the device is a core feature of an ebook reader, in my opinion.

    zilo on
  • DeciusDecius I'm old! I'm fat! I'M BLUE!Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    While obviously too late now for you, it should be thrown out there that Amazon just released an International Kindle.

    Sorry folks, Canada isn't international enough for the international version of the Kindle.

    Sony's eReaders are nice devices though.

    Decius on
    camo_sig2.png
    I never finish anyth
  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    I haven't used anything but the Kindle, but except for natively handling PDF's, it satisfies pretty much everything you're asking for.

    It's an e-ink display, which is easy to read in any lighting condition. I read at least an hour per day, and usually only have to charge it once every two to three weeks. It doesn't have expandable storage anymore, but it holds about 1,500 books, and if you need more space, you can pull your books from the Kindle and store them on the computer. Amazon says their selection is now over 350,000, but that includes newspapers, magazines and blogs. None the less, the selection has grown massively since my wife got hers about two years ago, when it was only about 80,000.

    It is a proprietary format, but there are sites out there that offer free books in the format, but they tend to be public domain ones.

    Edit: And I know you said Wireless isn't a big issue, since you won't always be somewhere you can use it. But when you are, the wireless downloading is such an incredible convenience, it's difficult to put into words just how much I appreciate it.

    Bionic Monkey on
    sig_megas_armed.jpg
  • TechBoyTechBoy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    So I have a Kindle 2 and think it's pretty cool.

    Battery life is really good. Apparently power is only needed when changing pages (to update the screen since it uses E-Ink) and for the wireless (which can be turned off). So depending on how fast you read it easily lasts for 8-16 hours of reading with wireless on and over a day of reading with wireless off. You can charge through USB or AC (which is done with a AC-to-USB converter that attaches to the end of the cable)

    The wireless it uses is actually Sprint's cellphone network, not wifi. Pro's are that anywhere Sprint has coverage, you can surf the web, buy books, etc. Con's are that anywhere Sprint doesn't have coverage... I find that in the States coverage is pretty good. Pretty much if there are people, there's coverage. The US version only works in the US, I'm not sure about where the International version will work.

    Book selection is okay-ish. I only say okay-ish because I read a lot of sci-fi and their sci-fi collection is pretty spotty. New York Times Bestsellers and mainstream stuff like that is all there though, and I believe the Kindle has the largest selection. Books run the gamut from $10 to free, but the majority are around $10.

    You can buy books either through the device's built in book store or through Amazon (You link the Kindle to your account). If you're in the States it will get wirelessly sent to your device, usually you'll be able to start reading within half a minute from the time of purchase. I believe you can also buy books and then download and transfer them through the cable.

    The Kindle 2 doesn't natively support PDFs, but you can view PDFs through a couple of means. 1) You can email the PDF to a special Kindle email that will convert the PDF into a format suitable for the Kindle for free. Process takes a few minutes. You can then transfer the file to the Kindle through the cable. 2) You can email the PDF to another special account, only this time the file will be wirelessly sent to your Kindle. Downside is that Amazon charges 15 cents or so for every PDF you convert this way. Conversion is pretty accurate for straight text PDFs. Ones that are image heavy and have funky text formatting can have the formatting all messed up.

    Storage is 2 gbs, so it can hold literally thousands and thousands of books. It's internal memory though, so you can't upgrade it, but it seems like it should be plenty. (You can also upload MP3s and play them as you read, there's built-in speakers and a headphone jack. Oh and there's a text-to-voice feature that I don't use)

    So yeah, it's pretty cool and it costs $100 less than when I bought it 4 months ago! :?

    TechBoy on
    tf2_sig.png
  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    I should note, with my Kindle 2, when I say I charge it once about every two to three weeks, I'm not turning it off at any point during that time. When I'm done reading, I just set it to the side, in a few minutes it changes to it's screen saver, and when I'm ready to read again, I just turn off the screen saver and continue from where I left off.

    Bionic Monkey on
    sig_megas_armed.jpg
  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I would also recommend the Kindle 2. It reads so easily that it doesn't feel like your reading a PDA or other computer device. Feels like paper. Also holds nicely in your hand and you can order directly from the Amazon Kindle store anywhere it can get a wireless connection. Which were I live is everywhere but YMMV

    Psychotic One on
  • taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    For travel i'd probably go with sonys offerings over the kindle, they're more compact and just feel sturdier. The kindles wireless is nice, but a smaller device would probably serve you better than the wireless given your stated uses

    taliosfalcon on
    steam xbox - adeptpenguin
  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    For travel i'd probably go with sonys offerings over the kindle, they're more compact and just feel sturdier. The kindles wireless is nice, but a smaller device would probably serve you better than the wireless given your stated uses

    Not really. They're both damn near identical in size.

    Bionic Monkey on
    sig_megas_armed.jpg
  • taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    For travel i'd probably go with sonys offerings over the kindle, they're more compact and just feel sturdier. The kindles wireless is nice, but a smaller device would probably serve you better than the wireless given your stated uses

    Not really. They're both damn near identical in size.

    eh? the kindle 2 is 8" x 5.3" x 0.36" and the prs-505 is 6.9 x 4.8 x 0.3, the 700 is pretty damn close to the 505, . That might not sound like much on paper but in my experience (have a prs-505, 300 and kindle2 in the house) its the difference between fitting easily in a pocket or not.

    taliosfalcon on
    steam xbox - adeptpenguin
  • baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Can I butt in with my own ebook reader question?

    I have a ton of stuff in non-DRM .lit format and a ton more stuff in .cbr/cbz. Can someone with experience tell me how well either of those converts to either the Sony or Amazon readers?

    baudattitude on
  • blanknogoblanknogo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Can I butt in with my own ebook reader question?

    I have a ton of stuff in non-DRM .lit format and a ton more stuff in .cbr/cbz. Can someone with experience tell me how well either of those converts to either the Sony or Amazon readers?

    The .lit stuff converts very easily into a Sony format - Calibre is a great, freeware file manager for that type of stuff. Think of it like iTunes for your eBook reader that also happens to convert files from one type to a Sony Reader compatible type without any intervention on your part.

    I've seen and worked with some processes for converting the CBZ/CBR files. Overall, unless it's black and white manga, it's not a very satisfying result. Even if it's manga, the general speed at which most people digest that type of content isn't really translatable to the e-ink technology (due to the slow screen refresh rate).

    Mobileread is a great place to check out more information on this type of stuff.

    blanknogo on
  • SpamSpam Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    blanknogo wrote: »
    I've seen and worked with some processes for converting the CBZ/CBR files. Overall, unless it's black and white manga, it's not a very satisfying result. Even if it's manga, the general speed at which most people digest that type of content isn't really translatable to the e-ink technology (due to the slow screen refresh rate).

    I've stuck a fair few comic books on my sony reader too and I can concur wi this.

    Western comics/graphic novels are usually in a fairly large format, so the text can be hard to read/illegible on the small screen (picture is sharp enough, just really small font size). Colour comics lose a fair bit of impact too because of the greyscale display, though it does a fantastic job considering it is just greyscale. You also have to watch double page spreads on the reader too - either split them up or rotate them before converting from cbr, otherwise they just look crap.

    Manga is much better because of the small page format and the fact that it's usually in b&w to begin with, though you still have to watch your double page spreads, and the sometimes screwy page page order.

    I don't mind the screen refresh time on the other hand - only takes a second or two to change the page, and i've got into the habit of pressing the next page button just as I'm moving onto reading the last panel of a page.

    Btw, the Sin City graphic novels translate perfectly onto an e-book reader ;)

    Spam on
  • chaosisorderchaosisorder Cupcake Princess and Pinny Whore OregonRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Huh, I hadn't even thought about comic books on it. I would love that option- that means the eInk stuff would be a better option I suppose.

    I've been digging through mobileread. That is an awesome site for somene just getting started.

    Thanks for the help all- I'm leaning towards the Sony versions, but I still have a few months for figuring it out before the massive move.

    chaosisorder on
  • KillgrimageKillgrimage Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Well, I hate to necro this thread (though it's what, not even a week old?) but I also have my own e-reader question.

    I'm thinking about getting one for my mom for christmas, and I figure starting to save for one now would be wise. She reads a lot but is also doing a lot of comp work with her business, so I figure this is a better way for her to get her books instead of going to the library (or worse, making us go and pick up books for her). Her tastes in books arent that eclectic, mostly crime/mystery with some historical fiction thrown in. She does like some "different" books, but it's usually stuff she finds on the Globe or Times reviews.

    The thing is, my mom is poor. I mean, she works a lot but she can't afford 10$ a book, especially when the library is right there. However, I have heard of e-readers that support a library mentality, like where you can "take out" a book and have it for a certain amount of time before it becomes inaccessible. I would be willing to front a one time fee if I can make this kind of thing avaliable to her. Any info on this guys?

    Killgrimage on
  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    If you are more interested in open formats, and not the services that Amazon, Barnes and Noble, etc... provide, you could always make your own:

    http://lifehacker.com/5382505/make-a-diy-kindle-from-tablet-pc

    Comes in at about $200, and it's not the nice soothing e-ink, but if you don't have a problem with LCD reading, than this might be a way to go.

    LavaKnight on
Sign In or Register to comment.