The only WiiWare I've purchased is Mega Man 9, which had a demo on other platforms. I might have purchased both Lost Winds games by now if there was any way for me to try it beforehand.
November 3, 2009 - WiiWare is slowly becoming packed with content, especially in Japan where the service often sees four titles released in a single week. Wouldn't it be great to be able to try out some of those games before handing over your precious WiiPoints? Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata appears to think so!
During the Q&A session at a recent earnings briefing, Iwata told investors that Nintendo would begin a test program for WiiWare demos some time this month. The test will cover just a few titles.
According to Iwata, Nintendo is undertaking this test to see if it can get more players shopping on the Wii Shopping Channel. He admitted that the market for WiiWare and DSi Ware is currently small, with the Wii Shopping Channel and DSi Shop browsed only by people who already know the game they want to get.
Iwata also said that he doesn't feel demos are necessarily the solution to the problem. He may or may not be right, but we're sure some players would appreciate being able to try out certain WiiWare games in advance.
Nintendo hasn't officially announced this WiiWare demo program just yet, so we don't have specifics on titles or a start time frame. It's also unclear if the test will be limited to Japan, or if Nintendo will let the entire world take part.
Once we hear the specifics, we'll be sure and pass along the info to you.
This would be awesome. I am more excited about WiiWare games than full blown releases these days.
Actually, I don't know if this applies to people outside of Europe, but Nintendo's running a 'get people online for free VC games' deal on the Wii Shop channel right now. You get somebody to connect their Wii to the internet for the first time, they enter your Wii number on the Shop Channel (and you theirs), and I think you get a free NES game. Perhaps most excitingly, the rewards scale - if you somehow manage to do this with 20 people you get access to EVERY VC GAME EVER FOR FREE. Heh - could be worth some online co-operation for the truly hardcore.
I can only assume this is because, despite the vast number of people owning Wiis, very few either care or have the know-how to take them online, and still fewer are actually interested in anything outside of the big hitters. Speaking personally, it's mainly a pricing thing - bad enough that the average quality WiiWare title costs £7+ nowadays (comparison - this could get you 2 copies of Crysis Warhead on the PC), but the slightly-more-average ones cost exactly the same. Result? I own LostWinds 1&2, NyxQuest, and Helix (shut up I like Eastern European Electronica). I own over 40 retail games for the system, many of which were picked up for £10 or less.
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I've bought quite a few games on WiiWare. It's a great service with some fantastic titles.
Mega Man 9 and Bubble Bobble Plus are two of my favorites I've downloaded.
So far the only WiiWare titles I've bought are the Stong Bad games and MM9; when I can afford it I'll pick up Contra Rebirth and Castlevania: The Adventure Rebirth. I really want to play Final Fantasy IV: The After Years at some point, but I'm hoping Square will release the whole thing on a disc or DS cart.
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Yes, WiiWare definitely needs demos. I've bought way too many XBLA games as a result of the mandatory demo policy. Demos are particularly important with DD titles, because let's face it, outside of games like Shadow Complex and Mega Man 9, almost no media outlets give any kind of useful preview or review information. The only useful tactics for WiiWare games are to listen to you fine folks or blind-buy on my own. If I could try the games myself, I'd be a lot more open to buying more.
I am pretty excited for Excite Bike. This will be my first purchase since Tecmo Bowl. So who is going to start the new thread for Excite Bike?
Also, demos would make a huge difference for me. I look at games like Lit and I wonder what they are like and even just a few minutes of play would make a difference to me.
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Demos are long overdue. There are so many games on Wiiware that I thought about picking up but just didn't want to part with the money for what little info is given when Nintendo posts each weeks games.
I need more than a screenshot and a one paragraph sales blurb to convince me to part with my money.
Online reviews are too much work to keep up with and then it's really only an opinion.
Demos are long overdue. There are so many games on Wiiware that I thought about picking up but just didn't want to part with the money for what little info is given when Nintendo posts each weeks games.
I need more than a screenshot and a one paragraph sales blurb to convince me to part with my money.
Online reviews are too much work to keep up with and then it's really only an opinion.
See, I've found the opposite: Online reviews aren't too much work to keep up with, since no one is reviewing WiiWare games! Outside of Nintendo Life, anyway.
But totally agreed on the sentiment; Nintendo could do a lot more with its Wii Shop setup to promote and describe games.
Demos are long overdue. There are so many games on Wiiware that I thought about picking up but just didn't want to part with the money for what little info is given when Nintendo posts each weeks games.
I need more than a screenshot and a one paragraph sales blurb to convince me to part with my money.
Online reviews are too much work to keep up with and then it's really only an opinion.
See, I've found the opposite: Online reviews aren't too much work to keep up with, since no one is reviewing WiiWare games! Outside of Nintendo Life, anyway.
But totally agreed on the sentiment; Nintendo could do a lot more with its Wii Shop setup to promote and describe games.
Yeah, Nintendo Life is the only site that seems to have ANYTHING on them.
You know, I've never looked at metacritic to see if they list DSiware and Wiiware.
Yeah, MetaCritic does DSiWare and WiiWare games, as well as XBLA and PSN games.
However, they're constrained by how many actual reviews come out by certified "metacritic" websites, of course.
Personally I like to google games that I might find interesting on WiiWare. Find articles, find the developer's websites, but most importantly, check out videos of the game on Youtube (which is where they're often posted). If I can watch some good videos of a game I can generally determine whether it will appeal to me.
I discovered recently that Bit.Trip Beat has an update available. I've already downloaded it, but I'm curious if anyone knows specifically what the update does?
I've been keeping an eye out for the Gradius Rebirth update, but that doesn't seem to have hit North America yet.
They also had an update for My Pokémon Ranch last year but I didn't download it because I didn't know what it was and I couldn't find its purpose anywhere.
I discovered recently that Bit.Trip Beat has an update available. I've already downloaded it, but I'm curious if anyone knows specifically what the update does?
I've been keeping an eye out for the Gradius Rebirth update, but that doesn't seem to have hit North America yet.
Maybe they were allowed to fix the bug that prevented you from saving unless you get a high score.
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NINTENDO DOWNLOAD : LOAD UP ON EXCITEBIKE ACTION, MUSICAL PLANKTON AND MORE
Nov. 9, 2009
Rev up your engines for a huge week at the Wii™ Shop Channel and Nintendo DSi™ Shop, starting with the launch of a pulse-pounding revamp for the WiiWare™ service, Excitebike™: World Rally. For the Nintendo DSiWare service, you'll find five new titles in the mesmerizing Electroplankton™ series – available at just 200 Nintendo DSi Points™ apiece – plus the irresistible multiplayer mayhem of Bomberman Blitz. With two new classic Virtual Console™ offerings to sweeten the selection, there's truly something for everyone to download and enjoy.
WiiWare
Excitebike: World Rally
Publisher: Nintendo
Players: 1-4
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone)
Price: 1,000 Wii Points™
Description: Prepare to face daredevil jumps, crazy obstacles and other racers in the newest installment in the venerable Excitebike franchise, available exclusively on the WiiWare service. Choose from multiple camera angles as you tilt your way to smooth landings using motion-sensitive controls. Compete in races around the world in four championship circuits. Use Nintendo® Wi-Fi Connection to invite friends to a race. Or if you're feeling brave, take on anyone else looking for a match. Feel like tackling a challenge of your own design? Use the intuitive Track Editor to choose from the available obstacles and put together your dream course, then share courses with friends to see whose creation skills reign supreme.
Frogger Returns
Publisher: Konami Digital Entertainment
Players: 1-2
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone)
Price: 500 Wii Points
Description: Frogger Returns takes the heart-pounding challenge of arcade Frogger and moves it into the next dimension. Classic top-down 2-D game play is updated with colorful 3-D graphics, a new perspective, new levels, new enemies and game-changing power-ups. A local multiplayer mode lets you race a friend.
Dragon Master Spell Caster™
Publisher: Stickmen Studios
Players: 1-2
ESRB Rating: E10+ (Everyone 10 and Older) – Mild Fantasy Violence
Price: 500 Wii Points
Description: The Dragon Lords have returned to the magical world of Nakiha, bringing ultimate power to whoever controls them. Choose your champion, then master amazing magic and fierce dragon attacks to defeat the rival Champions and their Dragon Lords. Choose from four different paths and decide the fate of the world in the fantastic story mode. Battle your friends in two-player split-screen arcade mode and tailor your tactics with different dragon and rider combinations, each with its own strengths and weaknesses. Marvel at the effects of mind-blowing spell collisions. Mix spells and unleash their ultimate power. Control your Dragon Lord and crush, bite and burn your way to victory.
Nintendo DSiWare
Bomberman Blitz
Publisher: Hudson Entertainment
Players: 1-8
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone) – Comic Mischief
Price: 500 Nintendo DSi Points
Description: Bomberman makes his downloadable debut on Nintendo DSiWare with Bomberman Blitz. Dive into a classic multiplayer Bomberman experience with eight-player local or online multiplayer using Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection. Hone your skills and learn the maps, then take the battle online. Change map and item preferences for enhanced customization. Delivering unparalleled multiplayer excitement, Bomberman Blitz lets Nintendo DSi users enjoy the addictive fun of Bomberman anytime, anywhere.
Electroplankton Trapy
Publisher: Nintendo
Players: 1
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone)
Price: 200 Nintendo DSi Points
Description: Trapy plankton make sounds as they swim over graceful lines made up of linked triangles. The creatures follow the lines you trace along the water. There are six types of Trapy in all, each with a unique color and sound. All Trapy plankton produce different tones depending on the direction they swim. They produce the lowest-pitched sounds when they swim to the right and produce higher-pitched sounds as their path veers to the left.
Electroplankton Hanenbow
Publisher: Nintendo
Players: 1
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone)
Price: 200 Nintendo DSi Points
Description: Normally aquatic creatures, Hanenbow sometimes use floating leaves to launch themselves out of the water, creating strange sounds and melodies as they bounce off the leaves. Entire schools of Hanenbow have been known to launch out of the water, one after another. As a leaf is repeatedly hit by flying Hanenbow, it gradually changes color. This also alters the sound made by bouncing Hanenbow. When all the leaves turn red, a flower will bloom. It remains unclear why the Hanenbow display this curious behavior.
Electroplankton Rec-Rec
Publisher: Nintendo
Players: 1
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone)
Price: 200 Nintendo DSi Points
Description: Rec-Rec are fishlike plankton that feed on sound waves. They absorb sound waves transmitted through water and use them as a form of nutrition. The sound waves that the Rec-Rec eat are then stored inside their bodies until they have been digested. Once the digestion process is complete, they play back the sounds in perfect four-second intervals. While these sounds are playfully emitted, wave patterns can be seen pulsating on their bodies. Rec-Rec always swim side by side in schools of four. When they swim at different speeds, the frequency with which they emit sounds also changes.
Electroplankton Nanocarp
Publisher: Nintendo
Players: 1
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone)
Price: 200 Nintendo DSi Points
Description: Nanocarp have very sensitive hearing. Using their two ears to sense vibrations coming through the water, these plankton can distinguish sound quality and frequency. They display very interesting reactions to the sound of humans clapping or breathing. Nanocarp are also excellent swimmers. They have a tendency to swim in formations of 16 and react together when they detect sounds. These plankton emit sounds on their own when they sense waves on the water's surface. When this happens, the pitch of sounds they produce changes depending on where the Nanocarp is located.
Electroplankton Beatnes
Publisher: Nintendo
Players: 1
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone)
Price: 200 Nintendo DSi Points
Description: Beatnes are curious plankton with geometrically shaped heads that form vertical strands like seaweed. Their bodies are made up of eight sections, each featuring a distinctive diamond-shaped tail. The sound of a Beatnes can vary wildly depending on which segment of the body is tapped. However, all of the sounds closely resemble the short-wave and triangular-wave sound effects from a Nintendo Entertainment System™ sound chip. When Beatnes are tapped in time with a rhythm, they continue to repeat the sounds in perfect time for a short period.
Virtual Console
Wonder Boy™ III: The Dragon's Trap
Original platform: MASTER SYSTEM
Publisher: SEGA
Players: 1
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone) – Mild Cartoon Violence, Tobacco Reference
Price: 500 Wii Points
Description: Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap is widely considered to be one of the best games produced for the SEGA MASTER SYSTEM. The direct sequel to Wonder Boy in Monster Land, it starts in the final lair of the previous game. This game is the first in the series to allow Wonder Boy to roam freely by using various animal forms, but as with previous games in the series, Wonder Boy can also buy various weapons, armor and items to help him in his quest.
Cybernoid™
Original platform: Commodore 64
Publisher: Commodore Gaming
Players: 1
ESRB Rating: E (Everyone) – Mild Fantasy Violence
Price: 500 Wii Points
Description: Federation storage depots have been raided by pirates, who've taken valuable minerals, jewels, ammunition and the latest battle weaponry. You have been commissioned by the Federation to retrieve the cargo and return it to storage within a specified time limit. The pirate craft have activated all planetary defense systems, which you must negotiate along with the pirates themselves. If you fail to reach the depot within the time limit, or if the value of your retrieved cargo is insufficient, you must forfeit one of your Cybernoid ships.
Nintendo adds new titles to the Nintendo DSi Shop and the Wii Shop Channel at 9 a.m. Pacific time on Mondays. Users with broadband Internet access can redeem Wii Points or Nintendo DSi Points to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel. Nintendo DSi Points can be purchased in the Nintendo DSi Shop. A Nintendo Points Card™ can be purchased at retail locations. All points from one Nintendo Points Card must be redeemed in either the Nintendo DSi Shop or the Wii Shop Channel. They are not transferable and cannot be divided between the two systems.
Remember that both Wii and Nintendo DSi feature parental controls that let adults manage the content their children can access. For more information about this and other features, visit Wii.com or NintendoDSi.com.
Oh shit, with Excitebike, I'm starting to get a backlog of games I want. I keep saying. "I'll pick that up in a day or two." Nyx Quest, Lost Winds 2, ZAMN and now this? Shit.
This kind of makes my old $50 import useless, but oh well. Beatnes is the only instant-buy on there; the other ones are so-so. The better plankton are Lumiloop and Luminaria; I also kind of like Marine-Snow.
Note that there's no real game here at all—it's just a music toy.
This kind of makes my old $50 import useless, but oh well. Beatnes is the only instant-buy on there; the other ones are so-so. The better plankton are Lumiloop and Luminaria; I also kind of like Marine-Snow.
Note that there's no real game here at all—it's just a music toy.
But will they have your generic translucent blue earphones, shiny blue box or beautiful manual? I think not. It's an embarassing point to make, but I genuinely think spending a few pennies more on attractive packaging would do a much better job at persuading us to part with a sizeable wedge of cash. Anybody here ever buy Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland? Gaudy as a magpie's nightmare, but it somehow justified spending money on a game that was...not exactly accessible.
If I'm not mistaken (I usually am) it's bite size chunks of the original game.
Not this time, you aren't! It's pretty much the individual pieces of the game, broken up and sold individually. That sounds like a milking move, but considing you'll be able to buy the whole game for $20, far less than the actual game cost, and half of the plankton really aren't worth buying, I think the 6 or 8 bucks people may end up spending is well worth it, especially for something that lives on your DSi. I would say Lumiloop is the one that most people would like, followed by Beatnes and then Luminaria. Hamenbow is actually kind of fun too, though. Here's a montage of a few of the modes:
Terribly squished because of the aspect ratio, but you get the point. The game is fun, so long as you realize it's just a music toy and randomness is a huge part of what makes the noise enjoyable.
A good chance this is old, but I just got back from Toys R' Us and took one of the posters they were handing out for there Pokemon Event, says that Pokemon Rumble comes out on the 16th, so next week.
Stolen from Gaf, but if this is true, I'm excited and afraid. I want this game, but no money and all of these great games are coming out.
Hey guys, quick question here. I just noticed that the original NES Final Fantasy is on the VC, and I kind of want to get it for the hell of it. So, question, as this is really hit and miss with NES games: What kind of save system does it have, (none, password, proper files, etc.) and if so, how many files?
I don't quite understand why the SMS version of R-type is availible when you can get the T-16 version which is like 100 time better.
Probably the same reason why they just released the SMS version of Wonder Boy 3, which is actually Wonder Boy 4 and has been available on VC for ages as Dragon's Curse on the TG-16. (See also: http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2007/11/virtual-conso-3/)
Hey guys, quick question here. I just noticed that the original NES Final Fantasy is on the VC, and I kind of want to get it for the hell of it. So, question, as this is really hit and miss with NES games: What kind of save system does it have, (none, password, proper files, etc.) and if so, how many files?
Proper save game functionality, but only one save slot. You can save at Inns and when using Cabins and such, IIRC.
Hey guys, quick question here. I just noticed that the original NES Final Fantasy is on the VC, and I kind of want to get it for the hell of it. So, question, as this is really hit and miss with NES games: What kind of save system does it have, (none, password, proper files, etc.) and if so, how many files?
Proper save game functionality, but only one save slot. You can save at Inns and when using Cabins and such, IIRC.
This is the truth. The game is absolutely charming if you like seeing the history of ideas or have nostalgia of the game. It is rather bland if neither of those things interest you.
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Other than that I search around quite a bit before buying...but demo's would be very welcome.
DS demos on the Nintendo channel have helped in quite a few of my purchases.
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Actually, I don't know if this applies to people outside of Europe, but Nintendo's running a 'get people online for free VC games' deal on the Wii Shop channel right now. You get somebody to connect their Wii to the internet for the first time, they enter your Wii number on the Shop Channel (and you theirs), and I think you get a free NES game. Perhaps most excitingly, the rewards scale - if you somehow manage to do this with 20 people you get access to EVERY VC GAME EVER FOR FREE. Heh - could be worth some online co-operation for the truly hardcore.
I can only assume this is because, despite the vast number of people owning Wiis, very few either care or have the know-how to take them online, and still fewer are actually interested in anything outside of the big hitters. Speaking personally, it's mainly a pricing thing - bad enough that the average quality WiiWare title costs £7+ nowadays (comparison - this could get you 2 copies of Crysis Warhead on the PC), but the slightly-more-average ones cost exactly the same. Result? I own LostWinds 1&2, NyxQuest, and Helix (shut up I like Eastern European Electronica). I own over 40 retail games for the system, many of which were picked up for £10 or less.
Mega Man 9 and Bubble Bobble Plus are two of my favorites I've downloaded.
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Bit.Trip series is also awesome.
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Also, demos would make a huge difference for me. I look at games like Lit and I wonder what they are like and even just a few minutes of play would make a difference to me.
There's a zillion games that need to come to VC and I've simply no clue why they haven't yet. It's mind boggling.
I need more than a screenshot and a one paragraph sales blurb to convince me to part with my money.
Online reviews are too much work to keep up with and then it's really only an opinion.
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See, I've found the opposite: Online reviews aren't too much work to keep up with, since no one is reviewing WiiWare games! Outside of Nintendo Life, anyway.
But totally agreed on the sentiment; Nintendo could do a lot more with its Wii Shop setup to promote and describe games.
Yeah, Nintendo Life is the only site that seems to have ANYTHING on them.
You know, I've never looked at metacritic to see if they list DSiware and Wiiware.
Anyone know? It's blocked here at work for me.
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However, they're constrained by how many actual reviews come out by certified "metacritic" websites, of course.
Personally I like to google games that I might find interesting on WiiWare. Find articles, find the developer's websites, but most importantly, check out videos of the game on Youtube (which is where they're often posted). If I can watch some good videos of a game I can generally determine whether it will appeal to me.
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I've been keeping an eye out for the Gradius Rebirth update, but that doesn't seem to have hit North America yet.
Maybe they were allowed to fix the bug that prevented you from saving unless you get a high score.
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would love to hear impressions from you all who are downloading today.
ExciteBike and Frogger both sound fun for WiiWare. Plus Frogger is only 500 points.
Electroplankton for DSiWare and Bomberman are awesome additions.
Plus VC still continues with two titles in a week. The world is right again.
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This kind of makes my old $50 import useless, but oh well. Beatnes is the only instant-buy on there; the other ones are so-so. The better plankton are Lumiloop and Luminaria; I also kind of like Marine-Snow.
Note that there's no real game here at all—it's just a music toy.
But will they have your generic translucent blue earphones, shiny blue box or beautiful manual? I think not. It's an embarassing point to make, but I genuinely think spending a few pennies more on attractive packaging would do a much better job at persuading us to part with a sizeable wedge of cash. Anybody here ever buy Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland? Gaudy as a magpie's nightmare, but it somehow justified spending money on a game that was...not exactly accessible.
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Not this time, you aren't! It's pretty much the individual pieces of the game, broken up and sold individually. That sounds like a milking move, but considing you'll be able to buy the whole game for $20, far less than the actual game cost, and half of the plankton really aren't worth buying, I think the 6 or 8 bucks people may end up spending is well worth it, especially for something that lives on your DSi. I would say Lumiloop is the one that most people would like, followed by Beatnes and then Luminaria. Hamenbow is actually kind of fun too, though. Here's a montage of a few of the modes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPkPGcANAIg
Terribly squished because of the aspect ratio, but you get the point. The game is fun, so long as you realize it's just a music toy and randomness is a huge part of what makes the noise enjoyable.
Stolen from Gaf, but if this is true, I'm excited and afraid. I want this game, but no money and all of these great games are coming out.
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Proper save game functionality, but only one save slot. You can save at Inns and when using Cabins and such, IIRC.
This is the truth. The game is absolutely charming if you like seeing the history of ideas or have nostalgia of the game. It is rather bland if neither of those things interest you.
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Remember that houses are glitched and save before you get your spells back, so use a house and then a tent to get your entire list back.