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  • ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Is it possible to summon blue phantoms in 1-1?

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  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Shens wrote: »
    Is it possible to summon blue phantoms in 1-1?

    No. It's impossible to be in body form in 1-1 before you beat the Phalanx.

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  • TrynantTrynant Maniac Brawler Rank 20.100 and full WildRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    greeble wrote: »
    I died to two invading BP's last night and was unable to summon any blue ones. :( (I see a lot less blue soul signs lately.)

    Although I try to use my blue eye stone somewhat, I've also noticed a lack of blue phantoms online. It could be that I might be too high level for one area that there wouldn't be any players in my level range, or it might be more likely that people just aren't willing to team up as much nowadays. It could be more and more people are drawn to the lure of Black Phantomdom D:

    Working on 3-1 right now, after clearing all of world 2 (the archdemon there has awesome boss music) and killing the second boss in world 1. Those mind flayers can get somewhat annoying :x

    I also saw a walkthrough of 1-3, and frankly I'm scared. Two Red-Eye Knights at once? More than one fight like that?

    D:

    My question to y'all is how does one pronounce the word falchion? I've been told that the "ch" is hard but I say it softly, like "falshion." Am I doing this wrong? It would get annoying to verbally explain to people that my Crescent Falshion +1 is so awesome.

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  • Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Being in 3rd cycle seems to change boss AI significantly.

    I found myself dying twice to Leechmonger despite using the usual sniping spot, its projectiles were somehow hitting me.
    So I found a new sniping spot...

    Also I saw both Maneater lifebars as soon as I stepped into the room.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    FAL-chun

    hard "ch" sound, not soft. it's like the ch in "check" or "cherry"

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  • Izanagi-OkamiIzanagi-Okami Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Is it possible to summon blue phantoms in 1-1?

    No. It's impossible to be in body form in 1-1 before you beat the Phalanx.

    No it isn't. You can pick up 2 stones of ephemeral eyes in the nexus right away and you always start in body form in NG+.

    Also it is possible to beat the tutorial boss and start 1-1 in NG with a body.

    I've summoned blue phantoms in 1-1 actually I just zoned in in body form and I saw like 3 blue stones and I thought what the hell I grabbed 2 of them and it was probably the most hilariously easy thing ever in the game.

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  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Is it possible to summon blue phantoms in 1-1?

    No. It's impossible to be in body form in 1-1 before you beat the Phalanx.

    No it isn't. You can pick up 2 stones of ephemeral eyes in the nexus right away and you always start in body form in NG+.

    Also it is possible to beat the tutorial boss and start 1-1 in NG with a body.

    I've summoned blue phantoms in 1-1 actually I just zoned in in body form and I saw like 3 blue stones and I thought what the hell I grabbed 2 of them and it was probably the most hilariously easy thing ever in the game.

    Oh, right, well, NG+ is something completely different. Of course you can do it there.

    But you can't do it in a NG.

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  • Izanagi-OkamiIzanagi-Okami Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Is it possible to summon blue phantoms in 1-1?

    No. It's impossible to be in body form in 1-1 before you beat the Phalanx.

    No it isn't. You can pick up 2 stones of ephemeral eyes in the nexus right away and you always start in body form in NG+.

    Also it is possible to beat the tutorial boss and start 1-1 in NG with a body.

    I've summoned blue phantoms in 1-1 actually I just zoned in in body form and I saw like 3 blue stones and I thought what the hell I grabbed 2 of them and it was probably the most hilariously easy thing ever in the game.

    Oh, right, well, NG+ is something completely different. Of course you can do it there.

    But you can't do it in a NG.

    What? Sure beating the tutorial boss is a stretch for a beginner but anyone can easily pick up either of the two Stones of Ephemeral eyes in the nexus.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Nearly at the end. Just need to beat 1-4.
    Think I might start a new character and spec them for PVP rather than going into NG+, though.
    I know the wiki says Penetrating Sword is a poor choice of weapon, but I'm oddly tempted. Anyone think it'd be viable for a dex build if upgraded?

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Is it possible to summon blue phantoms in 1-1?

    No. It's impossible to be in body form in 1-1 before you beat the Phalanx.

    No it isn't. You can pick up 2 stones of ephemeral eyes in the nexus right away and you always start in body form in NG+.

    Also it is possible to beat the tutorial boss and start 1-1 in NG with a body.

    I've summoned blue phantoms in 1-1 actually I just zoned in in body form and I saw like 3 blue stones and I thought what the hell I grabbed 2 of them and it was probably the most hilariously easy thing ever in the game.

    Er, what? No you can't. You can beat Vanguard, true, but then you get falcon punched by the Old One. Dying in the tutorial is necessary to introduce you into the Nexus.

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  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Is it possible to summon blue phantoms in 1-1?

    No. It's impossible to be in body form in 1-1 before you beat the Phalanx.

    No it isn't. You can pick up 2 stones of ephemeral eyes in the nexus right away and you always start in body form in NG+.

    Also it is possible to beat the tutorial boss and start 1-1 in NG with a body.

    I've summoned blue phantoms in 1-1 actually I just zoned in in body form and I saw like 3 blue stones and I thought what the hell I grabbed 2 of them and it was probably the most hilariously easy thing ever in the game.

    Oh, right, well, NG+ is something completely different. Of course you can do it there.

    But you can't do it in a NG.

    What? Sure beating the tutorial boss is a stretch for a beginner but anyone can easily pick up either of the two Stones of Ephemeral eyes in the nexus.

    I'm reasonably certain they don't appear until after you beat Phalanx the first time.

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  • Izanagi-OkamiIzanagi-Okami Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Nearly at the end. Just need to beat 1-4.
    Think I might start a new character and spec them for PVP rather than going into NG+, though.
    I know the wiki says Penetrating Sword is a poor choice of weapon, but I'm oddly tempted. Anyone think it'd be viable for a dex build if upgraded?

    It really depends on how you define viable. It's far from the best option and to many people when PVPing anything that isn't the best wouldn't be called viable for PVP. I imagine you'll still be able to beat able to beat less skilled players but equally or better skilled players with better gear would probably prove challenging. Though most good PVP gear don't need colorless souls so you wouldn't lose much by upgrading it to try it out.

    The only thing I really consider an important use of colorless souls for PVP is the adjudicators shield since you can offhand that while you 2hand another weapon and benefit from it's passive health regeneration.
    Behemoth wrote: »
    I'm reasonably certain they don't appear until after you beat Phalanx the first time.

    Oh I could of sworn I picked all of them up when I explored the nexus straight up but if that's the case I stand corrected.

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  • ZuldaneZuldane Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The point is: if you need to summon a blue phantom in 1-1, you're in for one hell of a bad time.

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  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    1-1 is supposed to be part of the extended tutorial, I think.

    That's why the boss is so easy.

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  • ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Zuldane wrote: »
    The point is: if you need to summon a blue phantom in 1-1, you're in for one hell of a bad time.

    Who the hell would want to play with friends who just got the game? (was why I was asking)

    Don't tell me that on your first play through you were able to kill the red eye knight guarding the Old Kings door? :P I wont believe it!

    EDIT: I also thought of another reason for summoning. Killing the dragons.

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  • yurnamehereyurnamehere Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Shens wrote: »
    Zuldane wrote: »
    The point is: if you need to summon a blue phantom in 1-1, you're in for one hell of a bad time.

    Who the hell would want to play with friends who just got the game? (was why I was asking)

    Don't tell me that on your first play through you were able to kill the red eye knight guarding the Old Kings door? :P I wont believe it!

    EDIT: I also thought of another reason for summoning. Killing the dragons.

    Possible spoiler about killing dragons in 1-1:
    You can't do it. The red dragon runs away at about 50% health, and I don't think the blue dragon is even attackable.

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  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Shens wrote: »
    Zuldane wrote: »
    The point is: if you need to summon a blue phantom in 1-1, you're in for one hell of a bad time.

    Who the hell would want to play with friends who just got the game? (was why I was asking)

    Don't tell me that on your first play through you were able to kill the red eye knight guarding the Old Kings door? :P I wont believe it!

    EDIT: I also thought of another reason for summoning. Killing the dragons.

    It's impossible to kill the dragons in 1-1 and you're not supposed to fight the knight until much, much later.

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  • ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    D: I didn't know that about the dragons. I never actually tried to kill them. I hit the red one a bit and saw the HP go down, figured it was killable.

    Also, I know about the red knight. See previous post again.

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  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Shens wrote: »
    D: I didn't know that about the dragons. I never actually tried to kill them. I hit the red one a bit and saw the HP go down, figured it was killable.

    Also, I know about the red knight. See previous post again.

    You can kill the red one in 1-2, actually. Makes it a lot easier.

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  • Vi MonksVi Monks Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Shens wrote: »
    Zuldane wrote: »
    The point is: if you need to summon a blue phantom in 1-1, you're in for one hell of a bad time.

    Who the hell would want to play with friends who just got the game? (was why I was asking)

    Don't tell me that on your first play through you were able to kill the red eye knight guarding the Old Kings door? :P I wont believe it!

    EDIT: I also thought of another reason for summoning. Killing the dragons.

    A Royal can take down the red eyed knight relatively easily. Soul Arrow is ridiculous for the early parts of the game.

    Vi Monks on
  • CelixCelix Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Does anyone know if the Dark Silver Shield blocks the damage from the Large Sword of Moonlight? The moonlight sword is supposed to ignore shields but the dark silver shield reduces magic damage when blocking to 0.

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  • JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Celix wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the Dark Silver Shield blocks the damage from the Large Sword of Moonlight? The moonlight sword is supposed to ignore shields but the dark silver shield reduces magic damage when blocking to 0.

    Oh man it's like what would happen if the Juggernaut collided with the Blob.

    Edit: I'm 100% sure it will still ignore the shield.

    JJ on
  • HaleskarthHaleskarth Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Vi Monks wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Zuldane wrote: »
    The point is: if you need to summon a blue phantom in 1-1, you're in for one hell of a bad time.

    Who the hell would want to play with friends who just got the game? (was why I was asking)

    Don't tell me that on your first play through you were able to kill the red eye knight guarding the Old Kings door? :P I wont believe it!

    EDIT: I also thought of another reason for summoning. Killing the dragons.

    A Royal can take down the red eyed knight relatively easily. Soul Arrow is ridiculous for the early parts of the game.

    Alternatively, any class can beat him at the start by luring him to the opposite end(the tower where you get the cling ring). The knights are ridiculously easy to make fall over the edge of stair wells, and the drop will kill him. Easy as pie.

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  • Vi MonksVi Monks Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Haleskarth wrote: »
    Vi Monks wrote: »
    Shens wrote: »
    Zuldane wrote: »
    The point is: if you need to summon a blue phantom in 1-1, you're in for one hell of a bad time.

    Who the hell would want to play with friends who just got the game? (was why I was asking)

    Don't tell me that on your first play through you were able to kill the red eye knight guarding the Old Kings door? :P I wont believe it!

    EDIT: I also thought of another reason for summoning. Killing the dragons.

    A Royal can take down the red eyed knight relatively easily. Soul Arrow is ridiculous for the early parts of the game.

    Alternatively, any class can beat him at the start by luring him to the opposite end(the tower where you get the cling ring). The knights are ridiculously easy to make fall over the edge of stair wells, and the drop will kill him. Easy as pie.

    Now that's just not sportsmanlike. :P

    Vi Monks on
  • HaleskarthHaleskarth Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Vi Monks wrote: »
    Haleskarth wrote: »

    Alternatively, any class can beat him at the start by luring him to the opposite end(the tower where you get the cling ring). The knights are ridiculously easy to make fall over the edge of stair wells, and the drop will kill him. Easy as pie.

    Now that's just not sportsmanlike. :P

    I gave up all notions of sportsmanship when I met the giants in world 5.

    All is fair in love and war!

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Question about a possible...exploit? With Invading....

    Demon's Souls wiki says this
    If the invading player fails to kill the host, because they somehow die by the environment of the stage (falling, rolling ball trap in 1-x, but not killed by the host or a blue phantom player) your Soul Level will decrease, deducting a level from your highest stat.

    Seems like this could be a pretty cheap way to experiment with different builds.....

    Or pump up a lagging stat a bit easier, as it will be 'cheaper'

    Arch on
  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Arch wrote: »
    Question about a possible...exploit? With Invading....

    Demon's Souls wiki says this
    If the invading player fails to kill the host, because they somehow die by the environment of the stage (falling, rolling ball trap in 1-x, but not killed by the host or a blue phantom player) your Soul Level will decrease, deducting a level from your highest stat.

    Seems like this could be a pretty cheap way to experiment with different builds.....

    Or pump up a lagging stat a bit easier, as it will be 'cheaper'

    I'm pretty sure that's by design. You can also lose a soul level if someone hits you with a soulsucker attack.

    One time when I was going through 1-3, someone invaded and I got a message telling me they just wanted to die so they could lose a soul level, so people are definitely using it.

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  • SvevinSvevin Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Arch wrote: »
    Question about a possible...exploit? With Invading....

    Demon's Souls wiki says this
    If the invading player fails to kill the host, because they somehow die by the environment of the stage (falling, rolling ball trap in 1-x, but not killed by the host or a blue phantom player) your Soul Level will decrease, deducting a level from your highest stat.

    Seems like this could be a pretty cheap way to experiment with different builds.....

    Or pump up a lagging stat a bit easier, as it will be 'cheaper'

    Not sure what you mean by "cheaper". The cost of upgrading a stat is the same for all stats, and I'm fairly positive that this only increases with how many times you increase a stat. So if it cost you X souls to upgrade any stat last time, it will cost you X+Y souls to upgrade any stat next time, even if you happen to go down any number of soul levels.

    The only point of losing soul levels on purpose is to readjust your stats while keeping all the gear you've collected. Doing so requires a lot of grinding, but might not take as long as starting a new character.

    I guess you can call it cheap if someone finishes the game and gets a northern regalia, then delevels and distributes his points in such a way to be the minimum to use the sword and puts the rest in vitality. Then you've got a level 20 or so BP with pure black tendency invading low levels and slaughtering them with a sword that does 500 damage.

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  • ShensShens Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Svevin wrote: »
    Then you've got a level 20 or so BP with pure black tendency invading low levels and slaughtering them with a sword that does 500 damage.

    Man I never thought of that.... So tempting. :P

    Although, a level 60-70 meat cleaver focused build is pretty insane outright. I can one shot 90% of the blue phantoms and about half the hosts.

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  • yurnamehereyurnamehere Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Svevin wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Question about a possible...exploit? With Invading....

    Demon's Souls wiki says this
    If the invading player fails to kill the host, because they somehow die by the environment of the stage (falling, rolling ball trap in 1-x, but not killed by the host or a blue phantom player) your Soul Level will decrease, deducting a level from your highest stat.

    Seems like this could be a pretty cheap way to experiment with different builds.....

    Or pump up a lagging stat a bit easier, as it will be 'cheaper'

    Not sure what you mean by "cheaper". The cost of upgrading a stat is the same for all stats, and I'm fairly positive that this only increases with how many times you increase a stat. So if it cost you X souls to upgrade any stat last time, it will cost you X+Y souls to upgrade any stat next time, even if you happen to go down any number of soul levels.

    The only point of losing soul levels on purpose is to readjust your stats while keeping all the gear you've collected. Doing so requires a lot of grinding, but might not take as long as starting a new character.

    I guess you can call it cheap if someone finishes the game and gets a northern regalia, then delevels and distributes his points in such a way to be the minimum to use the sword and puts the rest in vitality. Then you've got a level 20 or so BP with pure black tendency invading low levels and slaughtering them with a sword that does 500 damage.

    The cost to go from Level X to level Y is Z, regardless of how many times you've levelled past Y and then delevelled below X.

    Hopefully that makes sense.

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  • SvevinSvevin Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Svevin wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Question about a possible...exploit? With Invading....

    Demon's Souls wiki says this
    If the invading player fails to kill the host, because they somehow die by the environment of the stage (falling, rolling ball trap in 1-x, but not killed by the host or a blue phantom player) your Soul Level will decrease, deducting a level from your highest stat.

    Seems like this could be a pretty cheap way to experiment with different builds.....

    Or pump up a lagging stat a bit easier, as it will be 'cheaper'

    Not sure what you mean by "cheaper". The cost of upgrading a stat is the same for all stats, and I'm fairly positive that this only increases with how many times you increase a stat. So if it cost you X souls to upgrade any stat last time, it will cost you X+Y souls to upgrade any stat next time, even if you happen to go down any number of soul levels.

    The only point of losing soul levels on purpose is to readjust your stats while keeping all the gear you've collected. Doing so requires a lot of grinding, but might not take as long as starting a new character.

    I guess you can call it cheap if someone finishes the game and gets a northern regalia, then delevels and distributes his points in such a way to be the minimum to use the sword and puts the rest in vitality. Then you've got a level 20 or so BP with pure black tendency invading low levels and slaughtering them with a sword that does 500 damage.

    The cost to go from Level X to level Y is Z, regardless of how many times you've levelled past Y and then delevelled below X.

    Hopefully that makes sense.

    So you're saying the opposite. Even if you've been to level 100, if you delevel back to level 10, it will cost you the same amount of souls to go to level 11 as it did the first time you did it?

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  • ColtColt .45 ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    DAMN!

    So I just beat Tower Knight and remember that I killed the Dragon on the bridge, so I go back to 1-1 to get the Purple Flame Shield. I check the upper right corner and see that Boletarian Palace is full white. Huh. I walk over to the closed gate just a few steps away from the 1-1 archstone and lo and behold it's open! I've seen this area before from the start of 1-1 but never could access it so I'm hopping in my seat like a school girl. I walk in and see a bunch of dead guy with items an-OH FUCK THREE BLACK PHANTOMS. Actually, they were not that hard to beat but they just popped in and freaked the shit out of me. Kill them, get items. It's a lot of souls by the way. Then I see you can go higher in this area, so I go higher. FIVE MORE BLACK PHANTOMS. Kill them, grab another soul. There is a small stairway into a low dungeon into the castle, so I follow it and walk in and AS SOON as I get my arm into the door, motherfucking Executioner Miralda jumps out of the shadows and starts wailing on me. Now I'm really freaking out. I calm down and start blocking her and watching what she does and figure out a way to begin to chip her down. All goes well until I block too much instead of backing off and I die. Fuck.

    I respawn, go back, beat all the phantoms again, pull her out to the courtyard, do what I was doing before and kill her. Fuck yes, I just got the best light armor set for my character in the game at soul level 19.

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  • BehemothBehemoth Compulsive Seashell Collector Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Those are just black phantom versions of the dreglings from the beginning of 1-1. They're a little tougher, but still pathetically easy.

    Still, congratulations! Beating Miralda that early makes things a lot easier.

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  • yurnamehereyurnamehere Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Svevin wrote: »
    Svevin wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Question about a possible...exploit? With Invading....

    Demon's Souls wiki says this
    If the invading player fails to kill the host, because they somehow die by the environment of the stage (falling, rolling ball trap in 1-x, but not killed by the host or a blue phantom player) your Soul Level will decrease, deducting a level from your highest stat.

    Seems like this could be a pretty cheap way to experiment with different builds.....

    Or pump up a lagging stat a bit easier, as it will be 'cheaper'

    Not sure what you mean by "cheaper". The cost of upgrading a stat is the same for all stats, and I'm fairly positive that this only increases with how many times you increase a stat. So if it cost you X souls to upgrade any stat last time, it will cost you X+Y souls to upgrade any stat next time, even if you happen to go down any number of soul levels.

    The only point of losing soul levels on purpose is to readjust your stats while keeping all the gear you've collected. Doing so requires a lot of grinding, but might not take as long as starting a new character.

    I guess you can call it cheap if someone finishes the game and gets a northern regalia, then delevels and distributes his points in such a way to be the minimum to use the sword and puts the rest in vitality. Then you've got a level 20 or so BP with pure black tendency invading low levels and slaughtering them with a sword that does 500 damage.

    The cost to go from Level X to level Y is Z, regardless of how many times you've levelled past Y and then delevelled below X.

    Hopefully that makes sense.

    So you're saying the opposite. Even if you've been to level 100, if you delevel back to level 10, it will cost you the same amount of souls to go to level 11 as it did the first time you did it?

    That is correct.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ah, Demon's Souls. Such an amazing game, though admittedly it took a back seat when Dragon Age came out. I did play the everloving shit out of it though. Mostly offline because I didn't want to deal with the completely random shifts in World Tendency that can fuck over your attempts to get Pure anything.

    Once I completed all the various World Tendency events though, I started to jump online. I was, needless to say, a bit disappointed with how laggy many of the hosts were. It made backstabbing with my rogue extremely difficult, and parrying, which I was really good at during offline mode, virtually impossible. Parrying online is pretty much a roll of the dice that tends to not be worth it because you're more likely to take a shot to the face, even though on your end it LOOKS like you're timing it correctly.

    I mostly ran around with a low to mid 30's Soul Level character. I remember the first time I got invaded, it was someone decked out in complete Dark Silver, wielding the Dragon Bone Smasher while I was in world 2-1. I fought him in a hallway where his sword would collide with the wall, which allowed me to skewer him with my Gripless with impunity. Put a smile on my face.

    I also remember the first time I ended up as the Old Monk. Oh, that was so much fun. I've yet to lose a battle as him, even when the player walks in with 1 or 2 Blue Phantoms. Put on the Cling Ring when you become the Monk, it combines with the HP boost you get from being a boss and you end up with an absurd amount of HP.

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I can't say I've really had much of a World Tendency or Lag issue online. But that's just my experience.

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  • TrynantTrynant Maniac Brawler Rank 20.100 and full WildRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I found the Scraping Spear last night. In the hands of a Black Phantom. Who not only killed me, but broke all the weapons and armor I was using. Meaning not only did I lose my souls, I had a huge repair bill on my hands.

    FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

    I raged and kicked my TV :x

    Scraping Spear, most annoying weapon ever?

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ah yes, Scraping Spear and Acid Cloud are the bane of online play for most people.

    My last character I decided to make a "Monk", which ended up translating into a guy who ran around with a Blessed Mirdan Hammer wearing nothing but a Silver Circlet, Saint's Pants, Wrists and Boots. He could also only use Miracles. I focused on Faith, Health and Stamina. This worked well for me because really, all I had was my weapon to worry about, so when they would toss in their Acid Cloud and whip out the Scraping Spear I wasn't too worried. And in the rare event they broke my hammer, I'd just whip out a Wrath of God and call it a day.

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  • HalibutHalibut Passion Fish Swimming in obscurity.Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Edit: I'm an idiot, thought you were talking about start of 1-4. Well, I'll leave the strategy here anyway.

    Best strategy for that guy that I've found.

    Cast warding and equip a powerful weapon. Don't block him and just run in and hack away until your health gets low. He moves really slowly, so you can easily run away and heal when you need to. Cast warding again if it wears off. I don't think he ever heals himself, so you can just run away when things get too intense. Also, if you can, kill the other 2 BPs before you tackle him, as fighting more than 1 BP is a bitch.

    The first time I fought him, I was like you (except I didn't die, had another weapon once my first one broke). He broke all my stuff about halfway through the fight, and I was very luck to kill him.

    In NG+ I employed the above strategy and wiped the floor with him. Although, now that I think about it, he might be easier in NG+ since I don't think the scraping spear scales damage with stats and my phys def stat was a lot higher at that point. YMMV.

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I handled that 1-4 BP pretty easily.

    First I killed off the other two (with the thiefs ring it's possible to pull the sword dude without alerting the other two, then I just raced up and killed the archer, the spear guy didn't even have a chance to react). Then I summoned in a Blue Phantom. I distracted the BP and my helper blasted him in the back with magic until he died.

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