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    DuckterPepperDuckterPepper Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How can you even accept the death penalty if just ONE innocent man or woman is sentenced to death by mistake? And we all know it happens.

    And regarding the costs: Death penalty is expensive.

    "On direct appeal, the cost of appellate defense averages $100,000 more in death penalty cases, than in non-death penalty murder cases."

    taken from http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7

    or

    "Elimination of the death penalty would result in a net savings to the state of at least several tens of millions of dollars annually, and a net savings to local governments in the millions to tens of millions of dollars on a statewide basis."

    -- Joint Legislative Budget Committee of the California Legislature, Sept. 9, 1999

    or google it up, you'll find tons of sites.

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    LurkerLurker Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I think we are talking about something a little different than regular old capital punishment.

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    PeshPesh Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    they should just execute anyone who commits a felony

    with a bullet. So it's not expensive.

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    QuadropheniaQuadrophenia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How can you even accept the death penalty if just ONE innocent man or woman is sentenced to death by mistake? And we all know it happens.

    And regarding the costs: Death penalty is expensive.

    "On direct appeal, the cost of appellate defense averages $100,000 more in death penalty cases, than in non-death penalty murder cases."

    taken from http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7

    or

    "Elimination of the death penalty would result in a net savings to the state of at least several tens of millions of dollars annually, and a net savings to local governments in the millions to tens of millions of dollars on a statewide basis."

    -- Joint Legislative Budget Committee of the California Legislature, Sept. 9, 1999

    or google it up, you'll find tons of sites.

    Huh? I'm not talking about capital punishment in America. I'm talking about this specific case. I already know that the American court system is messed up.

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    CoreyCorey Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    "deserving" is pretty arbitrary

    whoever has the power of execution makes that decision


    Saddam killed 300,000 over 24 years, while American occupation killed 600,000 in 3.

    Saying Saddam is more deserving of execution than an American leader is kind of pointless

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    DuckterPepperDuckterPepper Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How can you even accept the death penalty if just ONE innocent man or woman is sentenced to death by mistake? And we all know it happens.

    And regarding the costs: Death penalty is expensive.

    "On direct appeal, the cost of appellate defense averages $100,000 more in death penalty cases, than in non-death penalty murder cases."

    taken from http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7

    or

    "Elimination of the death penalty would result in a net savings to the state of at least several tens of millions of dollars annually, and a net savings to local governments in the millions to tens of millions of dollars on a statewide basis."

    -- Joint Legislative Budget Committee of the California Legislature, Sept. 9, 1999

    or google it up, you'll find tons of sites.

    Huh? I'm not talking about capital punishment in America. I'm talking about this specific case. I already know that the American court system is messed up.

    well, you make a difference between death penalty in the USA and in Iraq? Uhhh.

    And Corey: exactly.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I've got the feeling that the death toll in Iraq being 600,000 has been made by insane hippies with little scientific backing.

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    PeshPesh Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    600,000? that's a fuck lot of bombing.

    Congratulations American Airforce, you are the single most awesome thing in the world.


    then again, deaths in iraq are probably blamed on the US for the most far fetched things.

    like that one kid who hung himself, and they said it was parent neglect. some guy in iraq probably slipped in the shower because some terrorist was blowing up a bomb.

    IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE WAR!

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    CoreyCorey Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Those numbers are according to a study appearing in the British medical journal the Lancet, largely ignored by U.S. media

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    QuadropheniaQuadrophenia Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How can you even accept the death penalty if just ONE innocent man or woman is sentenced to death by mistake? And we all know it happens.

    And regarding the costs: Death penalty is expensive.

    "On direct appeal, the cost of appellate defense averages $100,000 more in death penalty cases, than in non-death penalty murder cases."

    taken from http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7

    or

    "Elimination of the death penalty would result in a net savings to the state of at least several tens of millions of dollars annually, and a net savings to local governments in the millions to tens of millions of dollars on a statewide basis."

    -- Joint Legislative Budget Committee of the California Legislature, Sept. 9, 1999

    or google it up, you'll find tons of sites.

    Huh? I'm not talking about capital punishment in America. I'm talking about this specific case. I already know that the American court system is messed up.

    well, you make a difference between death penalty in the USA and in Iraq? Uhhh.

    And Corey: exactly.

    Well unless I'm mistaken, costs in America were largely due to how the American court system is run. The Iraqi courts are more than likely run differently.

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    CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Corey wrote:
    "deserving" is pretty arbitrary

    whoever has the power of execution makes that decision


    Saddam killed 300,000 over 24 years, while American occupation killed 600,000 in 3.

    Saying Saddam is more deserving of execution than an American leader is kind of pointless

    First off, Im not even convinced that Iraq has or ever had 600,000 people.

    Second, its VERY different, and you darn well know it.

    I shall now invoke Godwin's Law.

    How many people did Hitler kill?
    How many people died in WW2?

    My guess is Hitlers K:D ratio < The rest of the Wars.

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    SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    CangoFett wrote:
    Corey wrote:
    "deserving" is pretty arbitrary

    whoever has the power of execution makes that decision


    Saddam killed 300,000 over 24 years, while American occupation killed 600,000 in 3.

    Saying Saddam is more deserving of execution than an American leader is kind of pointless

    First off, Im not even convinced that Iraq has or ever had 600,000 people.

    Second, its VERY different, and you darn well know it.

    I shall now invoke Godwin's Law.

    How many people did Hitler kill?
    How many people died in WW2?

    My guess is Hitlers K:D ratio < The rest of the Wars.


    Stalin whips Hilter's ass.

    also, Iraq has a population of rouighly 26 million.

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    CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Silmaril wrote:
    CangoFett wrote:
    Corey wrote:
    "deserving" is pretty arbitrary

    whoever has the power of execution makes that decision


    Saddam killed 300,000 over 24 years, while American occupation killed 600,000 in 3.

    Saying Saddam is more deserving of execution than an American leader is kind of pointless

    First off, Im not even convinced that Iraq has or ever had 600,000 people.

    Second, its VERY different, and you darn well know it.

    I shall now invoke Godwin's Law.

    How many people did Hitler kill?
    How many people died in WW2?

    My guess is Hitlers K:D ratio < The rest of the Wars.


    Staling whips Hilter's ass.

    also, Iraq has a population of rouighly 26 million.

    Listen, you. This is the internet. I dont need to let facts get in the way of my arguement.

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    SilmarilSilmaril Mr Ha Ha Hapless. Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    CangoFett wrote:
    Silmaril wrote:
    CangoFett wrote:
    Corey wrote:
    "deserving" is pretty arbitrary

    whoever has the power of execution makes that decision


    Saddam killed 300,000 over 24 years, while American occupation killed 600,000 in 3.

    Saying Saddam is more deserving of execution than an American leader is kind of pointless

    First off, Im not even convinced that Iraq has or ever had 600,000 people.

    Second, its VERY different, and you darn well know it.

    I shall now invoke Godwin's Law.

    How many people did Hitler kill?
    How many people died in WW2?

    My guess is Hitlers K:D ratio < The rest of the Wars.


    Staling whips Hilter's ass.

    also, Iraq has a population of rouighly 26 million.

    Listen, you. This is the internet. I dont need to let facts get in the way of my arguement.

    I probably need to not get the worlds most ruthless dictator mixed up with a common bird.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Corey wrote:
    Those numbers are according to a study appearing in the British medical journal the Lancet, largely ignored by U.S. media
    To be fair, the US media ignores a lot of crazed rambling.

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    CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Corey wrote:
    Those numbers are according to a study appearing in the British medical journal the Lancet, largely ignored by U.S. media
    To be fair, the US media ignores a lot of crazed rambling.

    Its true

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    uh oh

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Check that out, a gerbil with a knife taped to his back!

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'd consider it a WMD

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    So now that Saddam is dead the country is a shining beacon of democracy and freedom right?

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Corey wrote:
    Those numbers are according to a study appearing in the British medical journal the Lancet, largely ignored by U.S. media
    To be fair, the US media ignores a lot of crazed rambling.

    The numbers weren't ignored at all by anyone. They were disputed by the media and governments of the US, Iraqis, and the Brits. That 600,000 number is complete and utter bullshit.
    BRITAIN’S premier medical journal is endangering public health by publishing unfounded scare stories, 30 of the country’s leading scientists say today. Poor editorial judgment at The Lancet has fuelled panic over issues such as the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, hormone replacement therapy and genetically modified (GM) crops, the eminent medical researchers charge in a letter that the journal has refused to publish. The signatories, thirty fellows of the Royal Society, two of whom are Nobel laureates, accuse it of favouring “desperate headline-seeking” over sound science, to the detriment of public health. “Under the editorship of Richard Horton, the publication of badly conducted and poorly refereed scare stories has had devastating consequences for individual and public health, in the UK and abroad, and carried a high economic cost,” they say.

    As you can see, the Lancet is criticized pretty often.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1658807,00.html

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    Red ZoneRed Zone Registered User regular
    So how's Iraq since he be dead?

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    mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    all eyes on you in the center of the ring j u s t l i k e a c i r c u s

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    Red ZoneRed Zone Registered User regular
    Is that a Britney Spears song?

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    crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    we should all only post in old as heck threads

    no more new threads until the old threads all reach 100

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    SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    every time I click into a thread and see a raneados post I'm like

    it's a g-g-g-g-ghost!!

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    mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    crwth wrote: »
    we should all only post in old as heck threads

    no more new threads until the old threads all reach 100

    im raring up to get into a rape joke argument with a gay post ghost RIGHT NOW

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    SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    edited November 2012
    crwth wrote: »
    crwth wrote: »
    we should all only post in old as heck threads

    no more new threads until the old threads all reach 100

    oh god no

    what if you resurrect an old thread


    that I'd posted in

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    SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    oh wait this guy's going on a spree

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    ShabootyShabooty Registered User regular
    lets agree and awesome old posts, too

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    oh man

    red zone

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    you know who I miss is Potatoe

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    It's like I'm in the past

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    MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    Either Red Zone went nuts or someone is trying to get him banned

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    bring back the hanukkah forum

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    The first time he posts in a year

    and of his 6 most recent posts, 4 of them are necroposts/bringing back threads from 2006 and 08

    dang, Red Zone

    I remember lurking in this thread. I think this thread was one of the threads that made me want to make an account here.

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    from what I hear not much has changed in Iraq

    though the Iraqi government has control of our military base

    and is still getting recruits

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    was this really 2006

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    if this turns into another politics thread I'm going to be so mad

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    Obama.

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