Have you showed him the videos Rockstar have been releasing? Because they helped sway me away from "Oh boy, development hell" to "Woooooooo"
That's been my primary weapon, yes.
edit: On another note, I've been seriously considering starting out multiplayer with this game. As neat as single player is likely to be, it's been a long time since I've gotten in on the ground floor of a good multiplayer game. GTAIV's didn't really take off (I think?), but Rockstar didn't promote it nearly as much.
I've been trying to sell this game hard to my friend I do multi with, and for a long time, he just thought of it as "GTA in the desert".
We're both college-age young'uns, neither of us have much affection for cowboys, I suspect, because of it. :?
Punch him in the face until he realizes how stupid he is, then shove a $10 gift card in his front pocket and tell him it is only to be used to reserve this game
I've been trying to sell this game hard to my friend I do multi with, and for a long time, he just thought of it as "GTA in the desert".
We're both college-age young'uns, neither of us have much affection for cowboys, I suspect, because of it. :?
Punch him in the face until he realizes how stupid he is, then shove a $10 gift card in his front pocket and tell him it is only to be used to reserve this game
Tsk, kids nowadays with their vidja games. I remember growing up playing cowboys and indians in my back garden.
It's funny - I wasn't a fan of cowboys, or westerns, when I was younger, despite having spent a fair amount of time in the Montana, Wyoming, Idaho areas in and around Yellowstone. Hell, I'm only now starting to appreciate that time in history and that genre of entertainment. That said...
HOW CAN SOMEONE NOT BE EXCITED FOR THIS GAME?
I mean, shit, everything a man, or a kid wanting to be a man, would ever want to do is in this game.
Wanna have duels at high noon? Go for it.
Wanna rob people? Go for it.
Wanna capture or kill villains? Go for it.
Wanna be a villain? Go for it.
Wanna capture your own wild horse, and train it to be your faithful steed? Go for it.
Wanna fuck some hot, western-era prostitutes? Go for it.
Wanna fight a bear or mountain lion with a goddamn knife? Go for it.
I'm also amazed at how legit and lifelike the environments are. There are some spots that look like they were lifted directly from the Madison Valley area, or from the road from Yellowstone to Cody, Wyoming. I hope they took some of Yellowstone itself, as well. How cool would it be to have a geyser or two in the environment?
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Gamespot previews the first couple hours. Much less story, much more general gameplay impressions.
Avatar rewards are in for the 360; shoot a guy's hat off and you unlock a sombrero.
EDIT: No sexin' prostitutes; John Marston's a married man.
thanks for the link. had a question how you guys read this
"Not all horses are created equal, though--the game features a huge range of different breeds roaming its wilds and available at various shops throughout the world. Different horses have varying stamina and top speeds, so you can pick whichever suits your needs, but you can have only one at any given time"
So does every single horse have different stats or just the different breeds? So one Mustang is exactly like all other Mustangs? or can stats vary in a range based on breed?
Yeah you won't be fucking any prostitutes in this game. They ruled that out.
Whoa, really? I thought prostitutes were a R* standard.
This means it can't be a REAL Rockstar game. We should boycott it, they're selling out.
(Not really.)
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Just the different breeds. All horses of the same breed will handle the same, although they might look slightly different.
And Carcass, as a married man I can tell you that my amount of prostitute use has decreased in contrast to the increase in my time spent flower picking. So Rockstar is just truly innovating in realism.
Just the different breeds. All horses of the same breed will handle the same, although they might look slightly different.
And Carcass, as a married man I can tell you that my amount of prostitute use has decreased in contrast to the increase in my time spent flower picking. So Rockstar is just truly innovating in realism.
As a long time (10 years) married man with kids (well, kid), I can tell you that it's parabolic. It starts to go back the other way after a while.
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So they made skinning a little "gruesome". I wonder if PETA will leap on that and start shrieking about it once the game is out. Not to mention the hunting aspect.
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"now I've got this mental image of caucuses as cafeteria tables in prison, and new congressmen having to beat someone up on inauguration day." - Raiden333
Yeah you won't be fucking any prostitutes in this game. They ruled that out.
Whoa, really? I thought prostitutes were a R* standard.
Thankfully, not any more.
Your aversion to this is pretty hilarious. Why would you care if its in the game, its not like its ever been mandatory.
Because it not being in is hopefully symptomatic of Rockstar finally growing up a little tiny bit, rather than being so depressingly puerile all the time.
So long as you can shoot people in the dick I dont mind.
My older brother however, who said "GTA 4 would be better if you could rape people." Will be gutted, how very, very sad for him.
The ass.
I for one am heartbroken that the industry does not bend to your brother's whims. How sad is it that we're so held back by our Puritan values that we can't explore the themes of being a jesus christ I can't keep going, the fact that people are bemoaning the lack of rape in video games is mind boggling to me, how much of a disconnect do you have to have from morality that you even consider the lack of rape options in ANYTHING to be a negative. What the hell, man. You can see a game like RDR and be DISAPPOINTED that they don't give you the chance to have empty, meaningless sex with prostitutes? THAT'S the feature that you're dying to have?
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So long as you can shoot people in the dick I dont mind.
My older brother however, who said "GTA 4 would be better if you could rape people." Will be gutted, how very, very sad for him.
The ass.
I for one am heartbroken that the industry does not bend to your brother's whims. How sad is it that we're so held back by our Puritan values that we can't explore the themes of being a jesus christ I can't keep going, the fact that people are bemoaning the lack of rape in video games is mind boggling to me, how much of a disconnect do you have to have from morality that you even consider the lack of rape options in ANYTHING to be a negative. What the hell, man. You can see a game like RDR and be DISAPPOINTED that they don't give you the chance to have empty, meaningless sex with prostitutes? THAT'S the feature that you're dying to have?
Its probably more the reduction of choice. These type of games are normally go where you want, do what you want. In an era where prostitutes are somewhat common, not being able to utilise them in some game-related fashion seems weird. Using the characters family as an excuse is allowing the narrative to control the gameplay, like GTA4, and that didn't end well. Not in the core game anyway.
Well, to be fair, enough meaningless sex may well result in death.
Didn't get a chance to look at Gamespot's impressions, as that website decided to murder my iPhone, but I'll take a gander when I get home. Perhaps even a goose, as well! A-ha!
So long as you can shoot people in the dick I dont mind.
My older brother however, who said "GTA 4 would be better if you could rape people." Will be gutted, how very, very sad for him.
The ass.
I for one am heartbroken that the industry does not bend to your brother's whims. How sad is it that we're so held back by our Puritan values that we can't explore the themes of being a jesus christ I can't keep going, the fact that people are bemoaning the lack of rape in video games is mind boggling to me, how much of a disconnect do you have to have from morality that you even consider the lack of rape options in ANYTHING to be a negative. What the hell, man. You can see a game like RDR and be DISAPPOINTED that they don't give you the chance to have empty, meaningless sex with prostitutes? THAT'S the feature that you're dying to have?
Its probably more the reduction of choice. These type of games are normally go where you want, do what you want. In an era where prostitutes are somewhat common, not being able to utilise them in some game-related fashion seems weird. Using the characters family as an excuse is allowing the narrative to control the gameplay, like GTA4, and that didn't end well. Not in the core game anyway.
Though rape? What a strange request.
But what gameplay would prostitutes change? Your health automatically regenerates, it's not like they're needed for the health boost. Not to cast aspersions, I'm sure you're a lovely person, DarkWarrior, and this isn't aimed at you, but I'm starting to have trouble defending against that argument that gamers are spoiled and whiny. They don't have to make a game that does everything, just one that does the stuff they want to do really well.
Fable would be a worse game if you couldn't have relations with women.
It doesn't need to have some crazy gameplay benefit to be meaningful.
And I personally am a little baffled that you won't be able to hook up with prostitutes. Not because I need that in my games or anything, but I imagine they are missing a butload of opportunities by going for a more traditional "western" here than a more realistic one.
I AT LEAST hope that there will still be women to tempt our character. Even if he just says no all the time. If there just are not prostitutes walking around I will be sorely displeased.
So long as you can shoot people in the dick I dont mind.
My older brother however, who said "GTA 4 would be better if you could rape people." Will be gutted, how very, very sad for him.
The ass.
I for one am heartbroken that the industry does not bend to your brother's whims. How sad is it that we're so held back by our Puritan values that we can't explore the themes of being a jesus christ I can't keep going, the fact that people are bemoaning the lack of rape in video games is mind boggling to me, how much of a disconnect do you have to have from morality that you even consider the lack of rape options in ANYTHING to be a negative. What the hell, man. You can see a game like RDR and be DISAPPOINTED that they don't give you the chance to have empty, meaningless sex with prostitutes? THAT'S the feature that you're dying to have?
Its probably more the reduction of choice. These type of games are normally go where you want, do what you want. In an era where prostitutes are somewhat common, not being able to utilise them in some game-related fashion seems weird. Using the characters family as an excuse is allowing the narrative to control the gameplay, like GTA4, and that didn't end well. Not in the core game anyway.
Though rape? What a strange request.
But what gameplay would prostitutes change? Your health automatically regenerates, it's not like they're needed for the health boost. Not to cast aspersions, I'm sure you're a lovely person, DarkWarrior, and this isn't aimed at you, but I'm starting to have trouble defending against that argument that gamers are spoiled and whiny. They don't have to make a game that does everything, just one that does the stuff they want to do really well.
Lets all just remember that they type of player who longs for a game where they can pick up virtual prostitutes, have virtual sex and yes, virtually rape virtual women, is the type of player who will die a virgin.
The world sorts this kinda thing out.
I am personally not bothered in the slightest by the lack of prostitutes you can bang ingame, I play games to do things I cant really do in real life. I dont play racing games because I can just get in the car and drive fast for that experience, same with sport games, I can just go in the back garden and kick a ball about and yes, should I one day feel the desire, I can go out and shag a real prostitute.
What I can not do in real life is ride into a old west town with my hat titled low and my six shooter at my side ready to blow away anyone who happens to annoy me.
Not without getting arrested and sent to jail for the rest of my life anyway.
Also more on topic, flower picking? What? Someone please explain what benefit this will give my badass cowboy?
I guess I can see your point. While it doesn't make sense for Marston to bang hookers, he should be able to do it in game. Perhaps at the cost of an honor loss or something.
I AT LEAST hope that there will still be women to tempt our character. Even if he just says no all the time. If there just are not prostitutes walking around I will be sorely displeased.
Im fairly certain there are ladies of i'll repute all over this game, many previews mention them. Plus there is a nudity warning on the rating thingey. Knowing rockstar though they will probably just slap us in the face with another penis as in The Lost and the Damned. The little devils.
I AT LEAST hope that there will still be women to tempt our character. Even if he just says no all the time. If there just are not prostitutes walking around I will be sorely displeased.
Im fairly certain there are ladies of i'll repute all over this game, many previews mention them. Plus there is a nudity warning on the rating thingey. Knowing rockstar though they will probably just slap us in the face with another penis as in The Lost and the Damned. The little devils.
It's a naked woman. But she does happen to be mutilated and hanging from a noose. So, you win some, you lose some. And yes, there WILL be prostitutes walking around, interacting with folk and such. Sometimes people will get violent with them, and Marston can choose to intervene.
And Moist, I will gladly subscribe to your newsletter. (I think the flowers are just another commodity, like furs, that you can sell in town)
I don't see why it has to be limited to a "How does this improve the gameplay?" kind of choice. The hookers in the GTA series were probably the least efficient means to get health - they cost money (admittedly, that can be rectified by killing them, but that can lead to problems with the police), they can be picky about what kinds of cars they will get into, and they require a hidden spot in order to do their business. From a pure gameplay perspective, they're essentially useless. The same goes for the various strip joints and private dances. Yet, they're in the games to highlight the seedy setting and to add a dose of realism.
It just seems odd that the main character in RDR can choose to violently murder strangers and rob their corpses, but can't sleep with a prostitute when they apparently do exist in-game. It just seems a bit arbitrary. Of course, this is said without seeing how he interacts with his wife in the game.
Do we know if she's alive or dead? And do we know anything about safe houses or the like? I'm curious to see if there's a business/estate building aspect to this game, like in Vice City, San Andreas, or even Assassin's Creed II. It'd be awesome to own a logging camp, or a ranch, or something.
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I don't see why it has to be limited to a "How does this improve the gameplay?" kind of choice. The hookers in the GTA series were probably the least efficient means to get health - they cost money (admittedly, that can be rectified by killing them, but that can lead to problems with the police), they can be picky about what kinds of cars they will get into, and they require a hidden spot in order to do their business. From a pure gameplay perspective, they're essentially useless. The same goes for the various strip joints and private dances. Yet, they're in the games to highlight the seedy setting and to add a dose of realism.
It just seems odd that the main character in RDR can choose to violently murder strangers and rob their corpses, but can't sleep with a prostitute when they apparently do exist in-game. It just seems a bit arbitrary. Of course, this is said without seeing how he interacts with his wife in the game.
Do we know if she's alive or dead? And do we know anything about safe houses or the like? I'm curious to see if there's a business/estate building aspect to this game, like in Vice City, San Andreas, or even Assassin's Creed II. It'd be awesome to own a logging camp, or a ranch, or something.
Her and your son are alive, kidnapped by the federal agents who force Marston to track down his old game.
You will also own ZERO property in this game. Your guns and your horse, that's it. You can sleep in inns, I believe, and you can definitely set up or join a camp anywhere in the wilderness where you can rest, save, and fast travel to any settlement you've already been to.
As for the hooker thing, how about we all just decide to agree it's a reference to Unforgiven and leave it at that?
To clarify:
I am not against having sex with prostitutes in a game. Planescape: Torment, for instance, had it as an (entirely meaningless) option.
I am in favour of Rockstar growing up, and not filling the game with stupid innuendos and bad teenage humour. This seems like a good symptom of that.
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From Rockstar's point of view, I'm sure they are dead tired of working so damn hard on a game only to have it branded as "the one where you can fuck prostitutes." Even if it is just the ignorant media or overly sensitive parents, I think they'd rather have a different group after their nuts this time around.
Not adding the ability to watch a censored cut scene of your character sleeping with a prostitute in no way makes the game any less enjoyable. And stop saying, "They removed the ability to fuck prostitutes" as if it was ever a given in a sandbox game.
Maybe they are hoping the game is reported on for its innovation and awesomeness, instead of the slings and arrows news angles that would be the result of what you guys are bemoaning.
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Have you showed him the videos Rockstar have been releasing? Because they helped sway me away from "Oh boy, development hell" to "Woooooooo"
That's been my primary weapon, yes.
edit: On another note, I've been seriously considering starting out multiplayer with this game. As neat as single player is likely to be, it's been a long time since I've gotten in on the ground floor of a good multiplayer game. GTAIV's didn't really take off (I think?), but Rockstar didn't promote it nearly as much.
Punch him in the face until he realizes how stupid he is, then shove a $10 gift card in his front pocket and tell him it is only to be used to reserve this game
Tsk, kids nowadays with their vidja games. I remember growing up playing cowboys and indians in my back garden.
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HOW CAN SOMEONE NOT BE EXCITED FOR THIS GAME?
I mean, shit, everything a man, or a kid wanting to be a man, would ever want to do is in this game.
Wanna have duels at high noon? Go for it.
Wanna rob people? Go for it.
Wanna capture or kill villains? Go for it.
Wanna be a villain? Go for it.
Wanna capture your own wild horse, and train it to be your faithful steed? Go for it.
Wanna fuck some hot, western-era prostitutes? Go for it.
Wanna fight a bear or mountain lion with a goddamn knife? Go for it.
I'm also amazed at how legit and lifelike the environments are. There are some spots that look like they were lifted directly from the Madison Valley area, or from the road from Yellowstone to Cody, Wyoming. I hope they took some of Yellowstone itself, as well. How cool would it be to have a geyser or two in the environment?
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Whoa, really? I thought prostitutes were a R* standard.
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Thankfully, not any more.
Gamespot previews the first couple hours. Much less story, much more general gameplay impressions.
Avatar rewards are in for the 360; shoot a guy's hat off and you unlock a sombrero.
EDIT: No sexin' prostitutes; John Marston's a married man.
What have they done to you, Rockstar.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
thanks for the link. had a question how you guys read this
"Not all horses are created equal, though--the game features a huge range of different breeds roaming its wilds and available at various shops throughout the world. Different horses have varying stamina and top speeds, so you can pick whichever suits your needs, but you can have only one at any given time"
So does every single horse have different stats or just the different breeds? So one Mustang is exactly like all other Mustangs? or can stats vary in a range based on breed?
Steam
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This means it can't be a REAL Rockstar game. We should boycott it, they're selling out.
(Not really.)
And Carcass, as a married man I can tell you that my amount of prostitute use has decreased in contrast to the increase in my time spent flower picking. So Rockstar is just truly innovating in realism.
Your aversion to this is pretty hilarious. Why would you care if its in the game, its not like its ever been mandatory.
As a long time (10 years) married man with kids (well, kid), I can tell you that it's parabolic. It starts to go back the other way after a while.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
PETA would want your XBOX to shoot a spray of acid into your face every time you thought about harming an animal.
My older brother however, who said "GTA 4 would be better if you could rape people." Will be gutted, how very, very sad for him.
The ass.
I for one am heartbroken that the industry does not bend to your brother's whims. How sad is it that we're so held back by our Puritan values that we can't explore the themes of being a jesus christ I can't keep going, the fact that people are bemoaning the lack of rape in video games is mind boggling to me, how much of a disconnect do you have to have from morality that you even consider the lack of rape options in ANYTHING to be a negative. What the hell, man. You can see a game like RDR and be DISAPPOINTED that they don't give you the chance to have empty, meaningless sex with prostitutes? THAT'S the feature that you're dying to have?
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
Its probably more the reduction of choice. These type of games are normally go where you want, do what you want. In an era where prostitutes are somewhat common, not being able to utilise them in some game-related fashion seems weird. Using the characters family as an excuse is allowing the narrative to control the gameplay, like GTA4, and that didn't end well. Not in the core game anyway.
Though rape? What a strange request.
Well, to be fair, enough meaningless sex may well result in death.
Didn't get a chance to look at Gamespot's impressions, as that website decided to murder my iPhone, but I'll take a gander when I get home. Perhaps even a goose, as well! A-ha!
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But what gameplay would prostitutes change? Your health automatically regenerates, it's not like they're needed for the health boost. Not to cast aspersions, I'm sure you're a lovely person, DarkWarrior, and this isn't aimed at you, but I'm starting to have trouble defending against that argument that gamers are spoiled and whiny. They don't have to make a game that does everything, just one that does the stuff they want to do really well.
It doesn't need to have some crazy gameplay benefit to be meaningful.
And I personally am a little baffled that you won't be able to hook up with prostitutes. Not because I need that in my games or anything, but I imagine they are missing a butload of opportunities by going for a more traditional "western" here than a more realistic one.
I AT LEAST hope that there will still be women to tempt our character. Even if he just says no all the time. If there just are not prostitutes walking around I will be sorely displeased.
Lets all just remember that they type of player who longs for a game where they can pick up virtual prostitutes, have virtual sex and yes, virtually rape virtual women, is the type of player who will die a virgin.
The world sorts this kinda thing out.
I am personally not bothered in the slightest by the lack of prostitutes you can bang ingame, I play games to do things I cant really do in real life. I dont play racing games because I can just get in the car and drive fast for that experience, same with sport games, I can just go in the back garden and kick a ball about and yes, should I one day feel the desire, I can go out and shag a real prostitute.
What I can not do in real life is ride into a old west town with my hat titled low and my six shooter at my side ready to blow away anyone who happens to annoy me.
Not without getting arrested and sent to jail for the rest of my life anyway.
Also more on topic, flower picking? What? Someone please explain what benefit this will give my badass cowboy?
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Im fairly certain there are ladies of i'll repute all over this game, many previews mention them. Plus there is a nudity warning on the rating thingey. Knowing rockstar though they will probably just slap us in the face with another penis as in The Lost and the Damned. The little devils.
It's a naked woman. But she does happen to be mutilated and hanging from a noose. So, you win some, you lose some. And yes, there WILL be prostitutes walking around, interacting with folk and such. Sometimes people will get violent with them, and Marston can choose to intervene.
And Moist, I will gladly subscribe to your newsletter. (I think the flowers are just another commodity, like furs, that you can sell in town)
It just seems odd that the main character in RDR can choose to violently murder strangers and rob their corpses, but can't sleep with a prostitute when they apparently do exist in-game. It just seems a bit arbitrary. Of course, this is said without seeing how he interacts with his wife in the game.
Do we know if she's alive or dead? And do we know anything about safe houses or the like? I'm curious to see if there's a business/estate building aspect to this game, like in Vice City, San Andreas, or even Assassin's Creed II. It'd be awesome to own a logging camp, or a ranch, or something.
Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia
Her and your son are alive, kidnapped by the federal agents who force Marston to track down his old game.
You will also own ZERO property in this game. Your guns and your horse, that's it. You can sleep in inns, I believe, and you can definitely set up or join a camp anywhere in the wilderness where you can rest, save, and fast travel to any settlement you've already been to.
As for the hooker thing, how about we all just decide to agree it's a reference to Unforgiven and leave it at that?
I'll drink to that! Ingame that is, while shooting my pistols in the air and howling.
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I need to make my multiplayer guy look like Yosemite Sam.
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I mean shit, €69,99 is a lot of money.
Yeah, everything is goddamn expensive here but in this economy nobody has exactly time to pick and choose, if you know what I'm saying.
I am not against having sex with prostitutes in a game. Planescape: Torment, for instance, had it as an (entirely meaningless) option.
I am in favour of Rockstar growing up, and not filling the game with stupid innuendos and bad teenage humour. This seems like a good symptom of that.
Not adding the ability to watch a censored cut scene of your character sleeping with a prostitute in no way makes the game any less enjoyable. And stop saying, "They removed the ability to fuck prostitutes" as if it was ever a given in a sandbox game.
Maybe they are hoping the game is reported on for its innovation and awesomeness, instead of the slings and arrows news angles that would be the result of what you guys are bemoaning.