It's a pretty weak public option with an unconscionable amendment attached. Though Boxer seems to think it's dead in the Senate, thankfully.
I'm still not convinced the Stupak amendment is "unconscionable". At first glance it would seem to be (and that was my initial reaction, too), but I really don't think it takes anything away from anyone. The only people who are being denied coverage are people who don't currently have any coverage in the first place.
Codifying that in law is making it worse. Those people SHOULD have coverage for reproductive health, as it is a key portion of their overall health. It's just dumb and we'd be better off if everyone had access to all the available options.
Agreed. But "we'd be better off" is a whole helluva lot different than "the sky is falling the sky is falling!" Putting a legislative barrier in place of a monetary barrier is a step in the wrong direction. But I just don't see it as some monumental setback like it seems alot of people do.
Excluding abortions isn't going to make me oppose the bill (and to be clear, I support the bill; I just think it's weak). But it's really hard to see the Stupac amendment as anything other than a middle finger to poor, uninsured women.
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Insured people get subsidies too. And the fact that a lot of private insurance plans do include reproductive health means that now those are either going to have to be changed, or you're going to get fuck all in terms of assistance.
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This amendment only affects health insurance plans in (what will be) the health insurance exchange, which will only (initially) apply to people who are currently uninsured (or lose their insurance, thus becoming uninsured). Likewise, you can still get a subsidized health plan with a non-subsidized rider that will cover abortions, hence it's only a significant problem for those with a low enough income to not be able to afford those riders (e.g. the poor).
Also, in cases of rape or health problems, abortions can still be covered in subsidized plans.
Maybe you're right and this is a problem for women in general, but it's a much MUCH bigger problem for women who are poor and uninsured.
Actually I think this thread just needs a break. It hasn't stayed on-topic for more than five consecutive posts in awhile.
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This amendment only affects health insurance plans in (what will be) the health insurance exchange, which will only (initially) apply to people who are currently uninsured (or lose their insurance, thus becoming uninsured). Likewise, you can still get a subsidized health plan with a non-subsidized rider that will cover abortions, hence it's only a significant problem for those with a low enough income to not be able to afford those riders (e.g. the poor).
Also, in cases of rape or health problems, abortions can still be covered in subsidized plans.
Maybe you're right and this is a problem for women in general, but it's a much MUCH bigger problem for women who are poor and uninsured.
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