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celandinecelandine Registered User regular
edited October 2009 in Social Entropy++
Let's face it, we aren't going to stop reading newspapers and dishing about them any time soon.
(Though some of us are too manly to call it "dishing.")

To start with: Looks like the winning health plan will be a "negotiated" public option. Too weak? Too strong? Still too pink?

I care about cost savings, mainly -- it's no good insuring more people if you can't sustain it over the next decades -- so this seems like it would weaken the main argument for a public option. But it does put in place the groundwork, so you can argue it's better than nothing.

Thoughts?

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    SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
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    FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I can't wait for Obama to kill my grandma I hate her.

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Whoooo, socialism.

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    Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    celandine wrote: »
    Let's face it, we aren't going to stop reading newspapers and dishing about them any time soon.
    (Though some of us are too manly to call it "dishing.")

    To start with: Looks like the winning health plan will be a "negotiated" public option. Too weak? Too strong? Still too pink?

    I care about cost savings, mainly -- it's no good insuring more people if you can't sustain it over the next decades -- so this seems like it would weaken the main argument for a public option. But it does put in place the groundwork, so you can argue it's better than nothing.

    Thoughts?

    Still far too weak, but ideally it's pointing real reform in the right direction. I'm guessing that part of the reason to allow an opt-out (and put the public option in the hands of the state) is to counter the states that were going to try and block federal involvement. (it's in the constitution or something)

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    vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    celandine wrote: »
    Let's face it, we aren't going to stop reading newspapers and dishing about them any time soon.
    (Though some of us are too manly to call it "dishing.")


    Thoughts?

    I'd be very interested to see a health study showing the effects of not-watching tv news programs, or reading political blogs, etc does to a person's overall health. Probably not much?

    edit: basically what would happen if we did stop reading newspapers and stopped dishing about them?

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    Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    celandine wrote: »
    Let's face it, we aren't going to stop reading newspapers and dishing about them any time soon.
    (Though some of us are too manly to call it "dishing.")


    Thoughts?

    I'd be very interested to see a health study showing the effects of not-watching tv news programs, or reading political blogs, etc does to a person's overall health. Probably not much?

    edit: basically what would happen if we did stop reading newspapers and stopped dishing about them?

    world peace within 72 hours

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    TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    celandine wrote: »
    Let's face it, we aren't going to stop reading newspapers and dishing about them any time soon.
    (Though some of us are too manly to call it "dishing.")


    Thoughts?

    I'd be very interested to see a health study showing the effects of not-watching tv news programs, or reading political blogs, etc does to a person's overall health. Probably not much?

    edit: basically what would happen if we did stop reading newspapers and stopped dishing about them?

    Average lifespan increased by 2000%

    Peaceful, unified world government within 3 weeks

    Robot slaves for every man, woman and child by Christmas.

    EDIT: Darn, beaten.

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    vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

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    SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

    now that's just ridiculous

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

    I hope Captain Picard phasers you in the nuts.

    Also, I don't know anything about tea. I drink coffee, because I'm a man.

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    SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

    I hope Captain Picard phasers you in the nuts.

    Also, I don't know anything about tea. I drink coffee, because I'm a man.

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    LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

    I hope Captain Picard phasers you in the nuts.

    Also, I don't know anything about tea. I drink coffee, because I'm a man.

    Earl Grey is a bit "meh".

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Snowbeat wrote: »
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    more like

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    NEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I don't know how you jackoffs can yammer on about politics this long

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    SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    reaganberlinwall.jpg

    more like

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    UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

    don't forget your towel

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

    I hope Captain Picard phasers you in the nuts.

    Also, I don't know anything about tea. I drink coffee, because I'm a man.

    I don't drink either because I am not powered by caffeine

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Mysst wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

    I hope Captain Picard phasers you in the nuts.

    Also, I don't know anything about tea. I drink coffee, because I'm a man.

    I don't drink either because I am not powered by caffeine

    Caffeine is awesome.

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    that sounds good except...
    fuck. robots. I don't need Will Smith to save me anytime soon.

    that's not what this dream monitor says

    I just want a food replicator so I can say "Tea...Earl Gray...Hot" every 10 minutes.

    and every 10 minutes you get a cup of something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea

    I hope Captain Picard phasers you in the nuts.

    Also, I don't know anything about tea. I drink coffee, because I'm a man.

    I don't drink either because I am not powered by caffeine

    Caffeine is awesome.

    hatred and rage is better

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I don't really do coffee

    I have so many friends who are like "I get up in the morning and I just can't function until I get some coffee" and I'm like man, just get up and walk around and you'll be fine within like 10 minutes

    You don't need no caffeine

    This is not to say I have anything against caffeine of course

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I get up in the morning and I just can't function until I internet for like 10 minutes. That's also about the length of time it takes me to get moisture to return to my face.

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Look at this shit.

    Just look at it. Read it. It is from Fox News' own webpage so you can't shout anything about editing or spin or bias.

    That is just straight up crazy.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Are those his serious glasses?

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Are those his serious glasses?

    No, he still has them on. Serious glasses are in-hand at all times.

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    man I get up in the morning and being late for work has already shot adrenaline throughout my body, what can caffeine offer me that a line of coke at 7AM can't?

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    incentivizes? seriously?

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    UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    GRMike wrote: »
    Look at this shit.

    Just look at it. Read it. It is from Fox News' own webpage so you can't shout anything about editing or spin or bias.

    That is just straight up crazy.

    couldn't read the whole thing, sorry

    my vision started going all hazy and red

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I am ok with raising a generation of would-be killers if it means someone is going to do something about "retiring" the generation of self-entitled brats that refuse to let us clean up their mess.

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Usagi wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Look at this shit.

    Just look at it. Read it. It is from Fox News' own webpage so you can't shout anything about editing or spin or bias.

    That is just straight up crazy.

    couldn't read the whole thing, sorry

    my vision started going all hazy and red

    I am at the point where I want to start rear ending people with Glenn Beck 9/12 Project bumper stickers.... and there are a ton of them around here.

    I might have to get that truck with the grill guard after all.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I had to stop and take a breather when I saw he referenced midichlorians in the second paragraph

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    OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    that article is insane

    i can't believe i read the whole thing

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I'm gonna get a big truck and put a reservoir in with a firehose

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I had to stop and take a breather when I saw he referenced midichlorians in the second paragraph

    I don't see the problem. All young people are drugged-up potheads who can't put more than three syllables together, right?

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    Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    GRMike wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    Look at this shit.

    Just look at it. Read it. It is from Fox News' own webpage so you can't shout anything about editing or spin or bias.

    That is just straight up crazy.

    couldn't read the whole thing, sorry

    my vision started going all hazy and red

    I am at the point where I want to start rear ending people with Glenn Beck 9/12 Project bumper stickers.... and there are a ton of them around here.

    I might have to get that truck with the grill guard after all.

    A grill guard is no good, you need a replacement bumper, like from Ranch Hand. Get a big fuckin' replacement bumper and you can run over trees.

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    GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    DL is my mechanic.

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Reading that article has seriously destroyed any sense of legitimacy I may have accidentally still had for Glenn Beck.

    Seriously, fuck Glenn Beck in his smug face. I'm now for government health care simply because he's against it. I need no more facts. Don't care.

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