The theme would keep sexist people out regardless of what you call it.
Hell, in Fresno state most of the women in the Women's Studies class were sexist dipshits too.
At my college a lot of people gotrandomly dumped into a women's literature course as their freshman literature/composition seminar.
The professors who teach this motley lot are a brave sort.
Being an English major, Feminist discourse showed up in most of my classes.
One of the teachers was sarcastic about the whole thing and just said "Another case of women dragging men down!" or something every time we read one of the stories about horrible sexist views like The Yellow Wallpaper.
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Man Pony, I mean it's one thing to have self-esteem issues, and another entirely to say you were offended and it bothered the shit out of you when people were saying you are a cool dude.
I... guess?
Call it being quirky, if you like.
I just don't like the idea of people completely losing sight of me being a basically shitty person and confusing being entertaining for being good. The idea of someone doing a thread to basically talk about me and how awesome I have offends me because it'll inevitably turn into people losing sight of how they oughta see someone like me, and I don't want that.
I try hard to be a good person. That doesn't mean I am one. Effort shouldn't be confused for legitimacy.
Alright, fair enough. I was honestly asking because I was wondering why you acted so offended to that. I originally thought it was locked because you just thought it was silly or something, not because it really bothered you.
But the paragraph in the middle is still probably not a healthy view of yourself or reaction to praise. And I don't exactly agree with "confusing entertaining for being good." It's not like people thought you were awesome because of the stories you tell about the horrible things you've done, there are legitimate reasons why you're an entertaining and funny person.
And the part at the end about them "losing sight of how they oughta see me" is really fucking weird. You don't decide how people oughta see you. They decide for themselves how they view you.
I attempt to exert a lot of command over how people perceive me, actually, and for the most part I do so successfully. Periodically it gets out of line and I make efforts to correct it.
Unreasonable and unhealthy? Perhaps. I am hardly a poster boy for healthy psychological operation. Nonetheless, I find outwards praise unsettling and given without moderation to be depressing, so I will make efforts to combat that. Sometimes it means squelching the conversation, other times it means character-assassinating myself by showing them a side of me that is hardly worth praise.
All things tempered and in moderation. I am not comfortable with being beloved or overtly praised. Every time one of my posts gets sent to the Awesome forum, I wince and often I 1-star it to bring the average down so it will get less attention.
There's quite a few whose opinions I respect and I wouldn't want those opinions to become unrealistic.
Alright then, now I at least understand your reaction and will respect your wishes in the future. Again, I don't think that's a very healthy behavior, but this is coming from someone who smokes cigarettes and has a number of unhealthy psychological behaviors, so when I say that it's out of concern, not berating you for it.
I mean I can't pretend I'm totally sensitive to all plights out there far and wide
Or even that I'm aware of when I'm being insensitive or thoughtless towards the struggles of the less fortunate (in terms of societal discrimination or whatevs)
But sometimes I read stuff and go "man, what the hell"
And I just... wither away a little inside.
if i don't do this to myself at least once a day i consider the day wasted
It must be really awful and scary to have blackouts or split personalities or whatever where you don't recall the lost time. What if you rape and murder someone. That is so terrible. Like... it's one thing to get drunk and 'not remember' killing someone but what if it's just some sort of internal disorder that you can't mitigate or prevent via a responsible lifestyle?
Often I find myself intensely thankful for being a relatively healthy person.
I think my biggest facepalm bit had to be when our class had just discussed at length how insane our culture's standard of beauty is for women, and how unattainable it is because people are born with different body types and the models are photoshopped anyway and etc etc.
And then right after one of the women in the class says, "Yeah, guys have it so easy compared to us. They just have to put some work into and they can look just like male models."
Of course, that particular woman was always a little slow on the uptake in that class.
It must be really awful and scary to have blackouts or split personalities or whatever where you don't recall the lost time. What if you rape and murder someone. That is so terrible. Like... it's one thing to get drunk and 'not remember' killing someone but what if it's just some sort of internal disorder that you can't mitigate or prevent via a responsible lifestyle?
Often I find myself intensely thankful for being a relatively healthy person.
multiple personality disorder of that variety's incredibly fucking rare if not totally nonexistent
it's the kind of thing you find more in bad fiction than real life
getting really drunk and finding out you did horrible things without knowing is very common though!
Man Pony, I mean it's one thing to have self-esteem issues, and another entirely to say you were offended and it bothered the shit out of you when people were saying you are a cool dude.
I... guess?
Call it being quirky, if you like.
I just don't like the idea of people completely losing sight of me being a basically shitty person and confusing being entertaining for being good. The idea of someone doing a thread to basically talk about me and how awesome I have offends me because it'll inevitably turn into people losing sight of how they oughta see someone like me, and I don't want that.
I try hard to be a good person. That doesn't mean I am one. Effort shouldn't be confused for legitimacy.
Alright, fair enough. I was honestly asking because I was wondering why you acted so offended to that. I originally thought it was locked because you just thought it was silly or something, not because it really bothered you.
But the paragraph in the middle is still probably not a healthy view of yourself or reaction to praise. And I don't exactly agree with "confusing entertaining for being good." It's not like people thought you were awesome because of the stories you tell about the horrible things you've done, there are legitimate reasons why you're an entertaining and funny person.
And the part at the end about them "losing sight of how they oughta see me" is really fucking weird. You don't decide how people oughta see you. They decide for themselves how they view you.
I attempt to exert a lot of command over how people perceive me, actually, and for the most part I do so successfully. Periodically it gets out of line and I make efforts to correct it.
Unreasonable and unhealthy? Perhaps. I am hardly a poster boy for healthy psychological operation. Nonetheless, I find outwards praise unsettling and given without moderation to be depressing, so I will make efforts to combat that. Sometimes it means squelching the conversation, other times it means character-assassinating myself by showing them a side of me that is hardly worth praise.
All things tempered and in moderation. I am not comfortable with being beloved or overtly praised. Every time one of my posts gets sent to the Awesome forum, I wince and often I 1-star it to bring the average down so it will get less attention.
There's quite a few whose opinions I respect and I wouldn't want those opinions to become unrealistic.
Alright then, now I at least understand your reaction and will respect your wishes in the future. Again, I don't think that's a very healthy behavior, but this is coming from someone who smokes cigarettes and has a number of unhealthy psychological behaviors, so when I say that it's out of concern, not berating you for it.
But like I said, at least now I understand.
thanks man
for what it's worth i was never actually angry with you about it since i knew that you didn't really understand why that sort of thing upsets me
at the time i should've taken the time to PM you about it, and for that i am sorry
I peed in a closet once, I guess my sleeping self thought it was the bathroom.
One time I sleep walked down the stairs and was unlocking the front door to go look for our cat that was missing before my mother (who is luckily a very light sleeper) heard what was going on and raced down to stop me.
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HachfaceNot the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking ofDammit, Shepard!Registered Userregular
The theme would keep sexist people out regardless of what you call it.
Hell, in Fresno state most of the women in the Women's Studies class were sexist dipshits too.
I wasn't talking about changing the name, just, more the fact that it is hard to get people to take a class that is contrary to their world view.
And yeah, there were a good amount of women in the class who had pretty poorly informed opinions about gender at the start of my sociology of sex and gender class, luckily I had a very good teacher and she did a fantastic job of educating the class on what's what.
It is a subject on which many people are fantastically misinformed.
but the caf closes for breakfast so bloody early that the only way to get there with an appetite would be to stay up 'round the clock again and no way can i do that
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
I've never drank to the point that I've blacked out. And I am very, VERY happy with that.
Honestly I think if I ever blacked out from drinking I would probably never drink again, that would just put me off so much.
I want to do it once, just to see how I handle myself. I would probably only do it with my brother in law though, and I know I can count on him to keep me out of trouble. But still, the concept of a completely uninhibited/altered me and what I would do interests me a good deal.
I've never drank to the point that I've blacked out. And I am very, VERY happy with that.
Honestly I think if I ever blacked out from drinking I would probably never drink again, that would just put me off so much.
I blacked out on my 21st birthday after drinking what were essentially two 32oz walkmedowns.
I didn't really realize what I was consuming, or I certainly would not have had the second one.
I've never blacked out since, although there are definitely periods where things get really hazy, like the time I woke up with a really bad buzzcut that everyone swears up and down I very cogently and aggressively asked for. Stranger things, I guess.
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
I've never drank to the point that I've blacked out. And I am very, VERY happy with that.
Honestly I think if I ever blacked out from drinking I would probably never drink again, that would just put me off so much.
I want to do it once, just to see how I handle myself. I would probably only do it with my brother in law though, and I know I can count on him to keep me out of trouble. But still, the concept of a completely uninhibited/altered me and what I would do interests me a good deal.
Well I guess I could be okay with blacking out in some kind of controlled study environment, but, man, the next morning would not be worth the knowledge gained.
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
I've been on a cultural kick lately, so maybe, if it's interesting, a look at how other nations handle their film industries, compared and contrasted to our own.
You can maybe throw something about Inglorious Basterds in there too.
apparently i've been completely asleep and clearly in a dream state and have gotten pretty handsy with my fiancee in bed
this is something i can only assume is unique to her because i've never had anyone else i've slept in a bed with, platonic or otherwise, tell me i've done that
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
apparently i've been completely asleep and clearly in a dream state and have gotten pretty handsy with my fiancee in bed
this is something i can only assume is unique to her because i've never had anyone else i've slept in a bed with, platonic or otherwise, tell me i've done that
I was half asleep and cuddled up to Aaron and grabbed his bum once and he, in his sleep, rolled over and clocked me hard in the jaw.
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
Lemme guess: Frenzy and No Country for Old Men
nope
rear window and blood simple
Damn. Thought you were going with Hitchcock's most violent film and the Coen's most recent.
Well, most recent violent flick. Burn After Reading wasn't particularly violent to start off with.
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
Lemme guess: Frenzy and No Country for Old Men
nope
rear window and blood simple
Damn. Thought you were going with Hitchcock's most violent film and the Coen's most recent.
Well, most recent violent flick. Burn After Reading wasn't particularly violent to start off with.
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
Lemme guess: Frenzy and No Country for Old Men
nope
rear window and blood simple
Damn. Thought you were going with Hitchcock's most violent film and the Coen's most recent.
Well, most recent violent flick. Burn After Reading wasn't particularly violent to start off with.
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
Lemme guess: Frenzy and No Country for Old Men
nope
rear window and blood simple
Damn. Thought you were going with Hitchcock's most violent film and the Coen's most recent.
Well, most recent violent flick. Burn After Reading wasn't particularly violent to start off with.
it's sort of the opposite
i've just started thinking about what i'm gonna write but rear window is partly about the constant voyeuristic pursuit of violence while ignoring the more mundane (and, you know, less fatal) kinds that happen around the characters every day
whereas blood simple has its characters trapped in violence of the very kind that stewart's pursuing in rear window and trying to escape it while becoming increasingly desperate and addled by it (the title alone basically says THIS MOVIE'S ABOUT VIOLENCE AND HOW IT MAKES YOU STUPID)
then there's connections to imagery, camera technique, theme, et cetera
this is an entry-level course so it should be a sufficient premise
if someone in your class was going to give an informative speech on film, what topic would you find interesting?
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
Lemme guess: Frenzy and No Country for Old Men
nope
rear window and blood simple
Damn. Thought you were going with Hitchcock's most violent film and the Coen's most recent.
Well, most recent violent flick. Burn After Reading wasn't particularly violent to start off with.
but when it was
holy shit
It just happens so suddenly.
I saw it in theater and when it happened I actually shouted "FUCK" really loud and with surprise
I like how the first part of the rape culture thread was "Oh come on, is it really that bad?" and then more and more people show up there with shitty arguments proving that yes, it really is.
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Being an English major, Feminist discourse showed up in most of my classes.
One of the teachers was sarcastic about the whole thing and just said "Another case of women dragging men down!" or something every time we read one of the stories about horrible sexist views like The Yellow Wallpaper.
Alright then, now I at least understand your reaction and will respect your wishes in the future. Again, I don't think that's a very healthy behavior, but this is coming from someone who smokes cigarettes and has a number of unhealthy psychological behaviors, so when I say that it's out of concern, not berating you for it.
But like I said, at least now I understand.
if i don't do this to myself at least once a day i consider the day wasted
luckily it is very easy
If he didn't, you would tie him up and beat him :P
Often I find myself intensely thankful for being a relatively healthy person.
And then right after one of the women in the class says, "Yeah, guys have it so easy compared to us. They just have to put some work into and they can look just like male models."
Of course, that particular woman was always a little slow on the uptake in that class.
multiple personality disorder of that variety's incredibly fucking rare if not totally nonexistent
it's the kind of thing you find more in bad fiction than real life
getting really drunk and finding out you did horrible things without knowing is very common though!
thanks man
for what it's worth i was never actually angry with you about it since i knew that you didn't really understand why that sort of thing upsets me
at the time i should've taken the time to PM you about it, and for that i am sorry
so
we cool!
I would break up with him, leaving him only a single red rose to remember me by.
He would hang out outside my apartment and lick my windows in an attempt to recapture our magic.
Animal Control would be by with a tranq gun shortly after.
Honestly I think if I ever blacked out from drinking I would probably never drink again, that would just put me off so much.
I guess I'm glad I never raped anyone.
O_O
Now I'm definitely never having kids.
I peed in a closet once, I guess my sleeping self thought it was the bathroom.
One time I sleep walked down the stairs and was unlocking the front door to go look for our cat that was missing before my mother (who is luckily a very light sleeper) heard what was going on and raced down to stop me.
If getting peed on is the worst thing that happens to you in a life of parenting, then you have surely been blessed.
one guy committed a double murder or something while sleepwalking
he was diagnosed with an incredibly rare neurological disorder and acquited
and now presumably sleeps handcuffed to something heavy
I think I've done the move to digital before, not opposed to doing it again.
It is a subject on which many people are fantastically misinformed.
pancakes and such
but the caf closes for breakfast so bloody early that the only way to get there with an appetite would be to stay up 'round the clock again and no way can i do that
Dongs: The foresight in high definition foreskins
Could be interesting to see how film went from being a very international thing with silent films to a very national thing with the addition of sound to film.
Or maybe that is just interesting to me.
I want to do it once, just to see how I handle myself. I would probably only do it with my brother in law though, and I know I can count on him to keep me out of trouble. But still, the concept of a completely uninhibited/altered me and what I would do interests me a good deal.
On the black screen
I blacked out on my 21st birthday after drinking what were essentially two 32oz walkmedowns.
I didn't really realize what I was consuming, or I certainly would not have had the second one.
I've never blacked out since, although there are definitely periods where things get really hazy, like the time I woke up with a really bad buzzcut that everyone swears up and down I very cogently and aggressively asked for. Stranger things, I guess.
i'm writing myself a paper comparing the usage of violence in two films
one's by hitchcock and the other's by the coen brothers
it has promise
though with me being the big wanky english essayist that i am i'm a little leery of writing anything without secondary sources
Well I guess I could be okay with blacking out in some kind of controlled study environment, but, man, the next morning would not be worth the knowledge gained.
I've been on a cultural kick lately, so maybe, if it's interesting, a look at how other nations handle their film industries, compared and contrasted to our own.
You can maybe throw something about Inglorious Basterds in there too.
On the black screen
The Porn Industry.
this is something i can only assume is unique to her because i've never had anyone else i've slept in a bed with, platonic or otherwise, tell me i've done that
Lemme guess: Frenzy and No Country for Old Men
nope
rear window and blood simple
I was half asleep and cuddled up to Aaron and grabbed his bum once and he, in his sleep, rolled over and clocked me hard in the jaw.
Damn. Thought you were going with Hitchcock's most violent film and the Coen's most recent.
Well, most recent violent flick. Burn After Reading wasn't particularly violent to start off with.
but when it was
holy shit
It just happens so suddenly.
it's sort of the opposite
i've just started thinking about what i'm gonna write but rear window is partly about the constant voyeuristic pursuit of violence while ignoring the more mundane (and, you know, less fatal) kinds that happen around the characters every day
whereas blood simple has its characters trapped in violence of the very kind that stewart's pursuing in rear window and trying to escape it while becoming increasingly desperate and addled by it (the title alone basically says THIS MOVIE'S ABOUT VIOLENCE AND HOW IT MAKES YOU STUPID)
then there's connections to imagery, camera technique, theme, et cetera
this is an entry-level course so it should be a sufficient premise
I saw it in theater and when it happened I actually shouted "FUCK" really loud and with surprise
violence in film is a funny thing
it really is about how you use it