Well, I can safely say I no longer feel any anger from this now. It's just too hilarious.
Isn't it, though?
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0Replace4DisplaceThe best girls are ships and guns.Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
It's like this is all fake, and they'll release it on the 10th and say "JK guys, all that shit was made up. No really, look, we have our OWN dedicated servers! Dig the ping."
And then you wake up in a cold sweat on the 9th.
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pyromaniac221this just might bean interestin YTRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
I really want to buy it on PC but this is so discouraging
you know, so far I still didn't see any news about the PC version that would in any way shape or form impact the fun I am going to have with the game and thus make me reconsider my buying decision
in plain english: still buying it
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Johnny ChopsockyScootaloo! We have to cook!Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
It's like Bizarro IW. I mean, this is wildly uncharacteristic of them. And the PC port might not be done yet? With 1 week to go?
Once again, I wonder how much of this is IW and how much is Activision corporate saying "we want this, this and this, you get to act like our insanity is so mega awesome and great to the world, no negotiations and you better make release date"? Because this is too much of a 180 for a team that's been very very friendly to PC gamers until like 3 weeks ago.
Well, we don't actually know about the DLC or Mod support.
GunnZero: i play on all gaming machines, if it allows me to game, im on it. But will PC have Mod tools?
Vince-IW: We haven't made any decisions regarding this yet.
Saucy: Will the DLC for PC version cost anything?
Vince-IW: No idea yet.
TheNinthAxis: If you charge for PC dlc will it be released at the same time as the consoles.
Vince-IW: We honestly haven't put much thought into DLC for any platform yet, we have been working on getting the game done
That's all bullshit and they know it. No dedicated servers also severely cripples any chance at any mods to be crafted and played. And Activision benefits greatly by cutting out mods because the only way to then get more content for this game becomes paid for DLC, which is coming. They definitely will not be kind to us pirating, evil, heathen PC players, what with our pain in the ass custom content that they have to make for our version of the game, like graphics settings and mouse support.
Sorry to say it, but I just think Activision/IW have just decided that the PC crowd is no longer worth pleasing.
Well, we don't actually know about the DLC or Mod support.
GunnZero: i play on all gaming machines, if it allows me to game, im on it. But will PC have Mod tools?
Vince-IW: We haven't made any decisions regarding this yet.
Saucy: Will the DLC for PC version cost anything?
Vince-IW: No idea yet.
TheNinthAxis: If you charge for PC dlc will it be released at the same time as the consoles.
Vince-IW: We honestly haven't put much thought into DLC for any platform yet, we have been working on getting the game done
...Wtf, its one week left, not 6 months. They haven't made a decision yet? They haven't decided if they are going to tell us more like.
...Wtf, its one week left, not 6 months. They haven't made a decision yet? They haven't decided if they are going to tell us more like.
fun fact, mod tools can be released after the game is already out
CoD4 got the mod tools some 3 months after release iirc
True, but cod4 wasn't running on IWnet which may or may not allow any kind of mods to begin with. We don't know because they wont say.
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KlykaDO you have anySPARE BATTERIES?Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
Managed to order the UK 360 version for 45€. That's 20€ less than normal, woot!
I'm really looking forward to this, especially the multiplayer. For some reason whenever I see a multiplayer video of this or CoD4 I get a really intense desire to play it. This usually doesn't happen with other games, but there's just something about the way it all looks and moves.
I came to the conclusion a long time ago I was boycotting this game. Not that it will make much difference to be honest as Actifail will still roll in a huge amount of money, but there's no way i'm going to bother spending anything on them. This group has no interest in the gamers, as far as it cares we're all ants for robbing money out of.
KlykaDO you have anySPARE BATTERIES?Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
It's still a fun game. I like playing fun games. I don't like building a fucking cult around them and playing them for months on end so I'm not phased by whatever Activision has done/planned for the future.
I'm just gonna enjoy myself, hop into multiplayer (both co-op and versus) from time to time and then move on to the next game.
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PaperLuigi44My amazement is at maximum capacity.Registered Userregular
I never felt CoD4 maps felt like a clusterfuck or overfilled with 32 players. Except maybe killhouse, but that's supposed to be insane nonsense anyway so it felt right in a different way.
The other PC relevant news from that Q&A:
No dev console, fov locked at 65, 100ms ping is the new standard.
Holy shit? 65 FOV? Thats insanity.
Good lord....
Haha, wow. I mean I realise it's standard on the consoles, and I can play the console version at something like 65 FoV, but that's largely because I'm sitting well back from the screen. On PC, a FoV of less than 75 (pref 90) usually just gives me a headache to be honest, everything looks so huge and you can't see anything else.
I mean I can technically understand why they did it (competitive MP, artistic design), but it's not like other games have been hampered by a wider FoV. That just seems really low.
Here's what is wrong with the way IW handled the PC version of MW2.
Most companies doing cheap console-to-PC ports that either use very small advantages of the PC platform or don't use them at all say it is because there was no time to develop features exclusively for the PC version, or that there is simply not enough money to be earned back from sales of the PC version.
That is of course bullshit but at least that bullshit is somewhat understandable.
IW on the other hands says something in the lines of this: "we know PC is an open platform that presents awesome opportunities when it comes to exclusive features simply not possible on consoles (mods, dedicated servers, tinkering with settings etc.) but guess what? We DON'T want you to use them. We don't want you to take advantage of your powerful PC, of its openess. We want you to have the same exact experience as consoles players. If it means disabling features that were present in PC FPS games since Wolfenstein 3D then WE WILL DISABLE THEM. It means that virtually you will be playing the same exact game with the same exact settings as the console players."
That is just a tremendous slap in the face of PC gamers.
And you know what? I could even buy it, I could even believe in it IF and ONLY IF they offered cross-platform MP. But without it, forget it.
Fuck IW and fuck Activision.
/rantoff
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joshgotroDeviled EggThe Land of REAL CHILIRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
What sniper rifle is in that montage?
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PaperLuigi44My amazement is at maximum capacity.Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
The Intervention.
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KlykaDO you have anySPARE BATTERIES?Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
Well,you do get your "powerful PCs" worth because the graphics will still be much better on PC. Same with the framerate.
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joshgotroDeviled EggThe Land of REAL CHILIRegistered Userregular
Didn't see it posted yet but a dev in that chat yesterday confirmed the max player count for console and pc is 9v9
18 players. Total. Every mode. Not modifiable.
Can't modify FOV, no dev console, "100ms ping is good", "How do you plan to handle the cheaters that get past VAC?" "We plan to ban all cheaters", can't kick people from ranked matches.
Have these guys not touched PC gaming in ten years?
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Isn't it, though?
And then you wake up in a cold sweat on the 9th.
Best response.
Their answer to whether or not you can play offline on LAN seemed evasive.
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There were a lot of great quotes in there.
"It's not balanced for lean"
"We're trying to ban hackers from the game"
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in plain english: still buying it
Once again, I wonder how much of this is IW and how much is Activision corporate saying "we want this, this and this, you get to act like our insanity is so mega awesome and great to the world, no negotiations and you better make release date"? Because this is too much of a 180 for a team that's been very very friendly to PC gamers until like 3 weeks ago.
Steam ID XBL: JohnnyChopsocky PSN:Stud_Beefpile WiiU:JohnnyChopsocky
Ha..hahah...HAHAHAHAHHAHAA.
Mouse control and graphics settings are a special added PC only feature now. Well holy shit, it's like I'm really in fucking 1988.
And yet lack of sales will still be put down to, lets say it together kids, piracy!
http://www.bungiestore.com/Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2/A/B00269QLI8.htm
Intense Single Player. Both.
Somewhat Realistic Gameplay. Both.
Mouse Support. Both.
Custom Graphics. Both.
Better Pings. CoD4.
Better Field of View. CoD4.
Free Map Packs. CoD4.
DEDICATED SERVERS. CoD4.
Mod Support. CoD4.
GunnZero: i play on all gaming machines, if it allows me to game, im on it. But will PC have Mod tools?
Vince-IW: We haven't made any decisions regarding this yet.
Saucy: Will the DLC for PC version cost anything?
Vince-IW: No idea yet.
TheNinthAxis: If you charge for PC dlc will it be released at the same time as the consoles.
Vince-IW: We honestly haven't put much thought into DLC for any platform yet, we have been working on getting the game done
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Sorry to say it, but I just think Activision/IW have just decided that the PC crowd is no longer worth pleasing.
see also: modding RA2 and Tiberian Sun
link to official confirmation about payed PC DLC please
...Wtf, its one week left, not 6 months. They haven't made a decision yet? They haven't decided if they are going to tell us more like.
fun fact, mod tools can be released after the game is already out
CoD4 got the mod tools some 3 months after release iirc
True, but cod4 wasn't running on IWnet which may or may not allow any kind of mods to begin with. We don't know because they wont say.
I'm really looking forward to this, especially the multiplayer. For some reason whenever I see a multiplayer video of this or CoD4 I get a really intense desire to play it. This usually doesn't happen with other games, but there's just something about the way it all looks and moves.
I'm just gonna enjoy myself, hop into multiplayer (both co-op and versus) from time to time and then move on to the next game.
Oh yeah, staff discount 8-)
I've just got to finish these damn assignments in time and I'm home-free for shooting mans online.
Haha, wow. I mean I realise it's standard on the consoles, and I can play the console version at something like 65 FoV, but that's largely because I'm sitting well back from the screen. On PC, a FoV of less than 75 (pref 90) usually just gives me a headache to be honest, everything looks so huge and you can't see anything else.
I mean I can technically understand why they did it (competitive MP, artistic design), but it's not like other games have been hampered by a wider FoV. That just seems really low.
Most companies doing cheap console-to-PC ports that either use very small advantages of the PC platform or don't use them at all say it is because there was no time to develop features exclusively for the PC version, or that there is simply not enough money to be earned back from sales of the PC version.
That is of course bullshit but at least that bullshit is somewhat understandable.
IW on the other hands says something in the lines of this: "we know PC is an open platform that presents awesome opportunities when it comes to exclusive features simply not possible on consoles (mods, dedicated servers, tinkering with settings etc.) but guess what? We DON'T want you to use them. We don't want you to take advantage of your powerful PC, of its openess. We want you to have the same exact experience as consoles players. If it means disabling features that were present in PC FPS games since Wolfenstein 3D then WE WILL DISABLE THEM. It means that virtually you will be playing the same exact game with the same exact settings as the console players."
That is just a tremendous slap in the face of PC gamers.
And you know what? I could even buy it, I could even believe in it IF and ONLY IF they offered cross-platform MP. But without it, forget it.
Fuck IW and fuck Activision.
/rantoff
Oh god. Love the name.
Edit: Also did he pull up the sights on both guns with just one hand?
EditEDIT: Just the G18.
18 players. Total. Every mode. Not modifiable.
Can't modify FOV, no dev console, "100ms ping is good", "How do you plan to handle the cheaters that get past VAC?" "We plan to ban all cheaters", can't kick people from ranked matches.
Have these guys not touched PC gaming in ten years?
Yeah fuck it, I'm done
I got nothing.
Well no, the "mouse control, text chat and graphics options" is the best thing, but that one comes close.
"why did you take out leaning"
"the game is not balanced for lean"