It may not function as a murder simulator, but it is teaching you tactics. Or you're teaching it your tactics. Either way is kinda scary.
Speaking as a soldier, the best way to learn infantry tactics is to join a military branch that specializes in ground combat. Playing video games doesn't do jack shit compared to being trained by NCOs with multiple combat deployments.
Playing Call of Duty MW2 will pretty much only train you to play Call of Duty MW3 or Doom IV or Quake V.
Indeed, the knowledge gained is really only applicable within context.
Wouldn't the ArmA games be closer to what's used for training? Or at least, various militaries seem to use a version of it for training (Virtual Battlespace)
Tactical shooter games can give you a good idea on how to use tactics on the battlefield.
But they (obviously) dont teach you how to cope with the stress of combat, nor do they teach you the physical aspect of it.
I wont lie though, Forza2 + the MS wheel taught me how to parallel park.
So... this week's item-on-sale at Steam is Call of Duty 4 (Modern Warfare). I've never played any of the Call of Duty games, but I'm told they're quite spiffy, and I am looking for a good multi-player FPS to get into.
1. Should I get CoD4?
2. Will there still be many players on it once MW2 comes out?
3. Is MW2 a systematically different game that attracts a different audience, or just an all-around better game and better FPS experience?
4. If it's different, how so?
5. I've never played any CoD games, so what could you compare CoD4 to? Battlefield 2? Counter-Strike? Unreal Tournament? (I know it's not that one).
So... this week's item-on-sale at Steam is Call of Duty 4 (Modern Warfare). I've never played any of the Call of Duty games, but I'm told they're quite spiffy, and I am looking for a good multi-player FPS to get into.
1. If you want to.
2. Most of the servers I play on are boycotting mw2 so yes
3. don't know, not out yet. Although main point of note so far is that mw2 will drop mw1's dedicated server support.
4. see 2 and 3.
5. Surprisingly its pretty twitchy, so quite like UT although not as out there being set in the military universe. Even some of the UT servers I used to play on swapped to COD when 4 came out, with the clusterfuck that UT3's release was.
I hope it lasts for three hours, and I hope there's handicapped children in wheelchairs.
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Dear Frederick, thank you for your nice letter, but I am actually a US Marine who was born to kill, whereas clearly you seam to have mistaken me for some sort of wine sipping, communist dick suck. And although peace probably appeals to tree hugging bi-sexuals like you and your parents, I happen to be a death-dealing, blood-crazed warrior who wakes up every day just hoping for the chance to dismember my enemies and defile their civilizations. Peace sucks a hairy asshole, Freddy. War is the mother-fucking answer.
And I'm here to show you that you die by the very sword you live by. Good riddance.
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Keep in mind everything I say from this point is NOT confirmed by any official material.
Reports are that a guy who got the game early had a stream running for a while. In it, he finished the game.
MASSIVE SPOILERS. LIKE, THIS IS THE ENDING. REALLY DON'T READ THIS.
THIS IS THE ENDING, TURN BACK NOW.
Shepard, an American general, is evil and you kill tons of Americans. At the end there is a white water rafting chase and Price duels with Shepard while Soap (whom you play as in the final mission, because Roach is dead) digs a knife out of his own chest and throws it into Shepard's eye. The ending credits are like a museum with in-game assets. It's a cliffhanger with very obvious overtures towards a MW3.
So... this week's item-on-sale at Steam is Call of Duty 4 (Modern Warfare). I've never played any of the Call of Duty games, but I'm told they're quite spiffy, and I am looking for a good multi-player FPS to get into.
1. Should I get CoD4?
2. Will there still be many players on it once MW2 comes out?
3. Is MW2 a systematically different game that attracts a different audience, or just an all-around better game and better FPS experience?
4. If it's different, how so?
5. I've never played any CoD games, so what could you compare CoD4 to? Battlefield 2? Counter-Strike? Unreal Tournament? (I know it's not that one).
I would compare it to Counter-Strike as far as multiplayer goes, though there are lots of game modes. I mostly play hardcore team deathmatch but if you want a really tight CS experience I think you want to play... Search and Destroy? Is that the one with no respawns and a bomb mechanic?
Just a stupid question: having never played the original Modern Warfare before will I be missing out on the campaign completely, or does it not matter (I expect to be amazingly bad in multiplayer but that is given) ?
The storyline is standard military drama, so I wouldn't think you would really be 'missing out' on the previous story. To sum it up, a russian evil fuck sold weapons to, and teamed up with, an evil arab fuck. The brits and the yanks team up to whomp some ass and a nuke gets detonated along the way.
Anyone else feel like expanding on the original story?
He'll miss out mostly because of the characters and their journey through the first one. Price's past, present, Soap's actions and missions etc.
MW2 is a direct sequel to MW1, so you miss out on the entire backstory. That's not to say MW2 can't be played on its own, as MW1's story was finished by the end of the game. However the fact remains MW2 is grounded in MW1.
I think we're gonna have to start up a private match at some point when this comes out and test that thing out. It'd be fucking megahard to get it in normal, especially since they nerfed Heli-chaining.
There's a stream of some dude playing the leaked version of the game (360 I suppose) on http://www.justin.tv/notmodernwarfare2. It's pretty nifty in case anyone doesn't want to buy it yet wants to see the whole SP campaign.
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
There's a stream of some dude playing the leaked version of the game (360 I suppose) on http://www.justin.tv/notmodernwarfare2. It's pretty nifty in case anyone doesn't want to buy it yet wants to see the whole SP campaign.
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
Watch at your own risk.
Yeah, Fox News all over this shit.
hahaha
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There's a stream of some dude playing the leaked version of the game (360 I suppose) on http://www.justin.tv/notmodernwarfare2. It's pretty nifty in case anyone doesn't want to buy it yet wants to see the whole SP campaign.
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
Watch at your own risk.
I can barely stand watching that video, not because it has spoilers, but because of the annoying players who just charges head-long into everything and won't shut-up.
There's a stream of some dude playing the leaked version of the game (360 I suppose) on http://www.justin.tv/notmodernwarfare2. It's pretty nifty in case anyone doesn't want to buy it yet wants to see the whole SP campaign.
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
Watch at your own risk.
I can barely stand watching that video, not because it has spoilers, but because of the annoying players who just charges head-long into everything and won't shut-up.
Man you really don't want to hear his comments on THAT level.
There's a stream of some dude playing the leaked version of the game (360 I suppose) on http://www.justin.tv/notmodernwarfare2. It's pretty nifty in case anyone doesn't want to buy it yet wants to see the whole SP campaign.
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
Watch at your own risk.
I can barely stand watching that video, not because it has spoilers, but because of the annoying players who just charges head-long into everything and won't shut-up.
Man you really don't want to hear his comments on THAT level.
THAT kitten level?
:winky:
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There's a stream of some dude playing the leaked version of the game (360 I suppose) on http://www.justin.tv/notmodernwarfare2. It's pretty nifty in case anyone doesn't want to buy it yet wants to see the whole SP campaign.
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
Watch at your own risk.
I can barely stand watching that video, not because it has spoilers, but because of the annoying players who just charges head-long into everything and won't shut-up.
Man you really don't want to hear his comments on THAT level.
THAT kitten level?
:winky:
So much blood man...so much fur...
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There's a stream of some dude playing the leaked version of the game (360 I suppose) on http://www.justin.tv/notmodernwarfare2. It's pretty nifty in case anyone doesn't want to buy it yet wants to see the whole SP campaign.
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
Watch at your own risk.
I can barely stand watching that video, not because it has spoilers, but because of the annoying players who just charges head-long into everything and won't shut-up.
Man you really don't want to hear his comments on THAT level.
There's a stream of some dude playing the leaked version of the game (360 I suppose) on http://www.justin.tv/notmodernwarfare2. It's pretty nifty in case anyone doesn't want to buy it yet wants to see the whole SP campaign.
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
Watch at your own risk.
I can barely stand watching that video, not because it has spoilers, but because of the annoying players who just charges head-long into everything and won't shut-up.
Man you really don't want to hear his comments on THAT level.
What does he say?
"haha don't crawl on the floor, you swine!"
"man this level is very satisfying!"
"they are not real people,they are just pixels,who cares man"
"there is a lesson to be learned here....don't go to airports,they are evil"
It's a classic case of an idiot thinking he's wittier than he really is.
Wolverines! with this asshat narrating was unwatchable. Completely. Goddamn. Unwatchable.
Also, lots of nods to the first game. Sgt. Foley, Agent "Alexi Boronin"...
I...what? Really? I mean, I'm not sure I'll actually see it used, but really?
Killstreak list:
I think my best Modern War 1 Killstreak was 24, and I think there are only 2 people on my friends list with killstreaks higher than 25. And these are all from people with 10+ days of gametime, IIRC.
Pretty sure I read that kill streak bonuses that result in kills won't count toward future kill streaks (or was that just holding onto a helicopter or something wouldn't count on your next life?).
My highest kill streak is 37 and I think I have ~4 or 5 days played. But I am awesome so there's always that to consider.
Goddamnit, this plot makes less and less sense the more I see. So Zakhaev went from angry never-quite-got-over-the-Cold-War arms dealer with nukes and extra goons to a goddamned national idol overnight? Right. Sure.
Goddamnit, this plot makes less and less sense the more I see. So Zakhaev went from angry never-quite-got-over-the-Cold-War arms dealer with nukes and extra goons to a goddamned national idol overnight? Right. Sure.
The ending is pretty bad on top of that and doesn't really add up at all either.
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That's actually a fairly accurate portrayal of how our 360 matches go, only with far less wearing.
Wouldn't the ArmA games be closer to what's used for training? Or at least, various militaries seem to use a version of it for training (Virtual Battlespace)
Some random gamers playing ArmA seriously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5nqxxJg6qY
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But they (obviously) dont teach you how to cope with the stress of combat, nor do they teach you the physical aspect of it.
I wont lie though, Forza2 + the MS wheel taught me how to parallel park.
You should watch The Hurt Locker.
The Raid
I love the really famous short roles in that film.
1. Should I get CoD4?
2. Will there still be many players on it once MW2 comes out?
3. Is MW2 a systematically different game that attracts a different audience, or just an all-around better game and better FPS experience?
4. If it's different, how so?
5. I've never played any CoD games, so what could you compare CoD4 to? Battlefield 2? Counter-Strike? Unreal Tournament? (I know it's not that one).
1. If you want to.
2. Most of the servers I play on are boycotting mw2 so yes
3. don't know, not out yet. Although main point of note so far is that mw2 will drop mw1's dedicated server support.
4. see 2 and 3.
5. Surprisingly its pretty twitchy, so quite like UT although not as out there being set in the military universe. Even some of the UT servers I used to play on swapped to COD when 4 came out, with the clusterfuck that UT3's release was.
And I'm here to show you that you die by the very sword you live by. Good riddance.
I was a bit skeptical, but that got some laughs out of me.
Reports are that a guy who got the game early had a stream running for a while. In it, he finished the game.
MASSIVE SPOILERS. LIKE, THIS IS THE ENDING. REALLY DON'T READ THIS.
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EDIT: Rio footage is a lot more interesting when the player is picking up a new gun every thirty seconds.
I would compare it to Counter-Strike as far as multiplayer goes, though there are lots of game modes. I mostly play hardcore team deathmatch but if you want a really tight CS experience I think you want to play... Search and Destroy? Is that the one with no respawns and a bomb mechanic?
The storyline is standard military drama, so I wouldn't think you would really be 'missing out' on the previous story. To sum it up, a russian evil fuck sold weapons to, and teamed up with, an evil arab fuck. The brits and the yanks team up to whomp some ass and a nuke gets detonated along the way.
Anyone else feel like expanding on the original story?
MW2 is a direct sequel to MW1, so you miss out on the entire backstory. That's not to say MW2 can't be played on its own, as MW1's story was finished by the end of the game. However the fact remains MW2 is grounded in MW1.
Killstreak list:
I think we're gonna have to start up a private match at some point when this comes out and test that thing out. It'd be fucking megahard to get it in normal, especially since they nerfed Heli-chaining.
And kills everyone.
Here it is:
Yeah, HEAVY FUCKING SPOILERS like THE WHOLE GODDAMN GAME SPOILED there.
Watch at your own risk.
Well that's fucking stupid.
Its basically a "I WIN" button and ends the round? Who comes up with this shit?!
Yeah, Fox News all over this shit.
hahaha
SO glad I didn't click on the link. Don't wanna see naked peoples.
I can barely stand watching that video, not because it has spoilers, but because of the annoying players who just charges head-long into everything and won't shut-up.
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If you can't live for the now, at least live for the future.
If there's someone on the opposing team ruining your shit with 25-0, you really deserve everything that's coming to you.
Man you really don't want to hear his comments on THAT level.
THAT kitten level?
:winky:
So much blood man...so much fur...
What does he say?
"haha don't crawl on the floor, you swine!"
"man this level is very satisfying!"
"they are not real people,they are just pixels,who cares man"
"there is a lesson to be learned here....don't go to airports,they are evil"
Also, lots of nods to the first game. Sgt. Foley, Agent "Alexi Boronin"...
"You've seen it here first! You've seen it here first! You've seen it here first!"
He keeps repeating this one line over and over whenever he finds anything new like the
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AMERICA! AMURRICA! AYEMURRICAAAAAAAAAAA THEY WANT OUR BURGERS!
I think my best Modern War 1 Killstreak was 24, and I think there are only 2 people on my friends list with killstreaks higher than 25. And these are all from people with 10+ days of gametime, IIRC.
I think that will be a non-issue.
From like, a month and a half ago.
And it might actually be feasible to get this, if you take the AC130 and camp somewhere with it, it'll take you from 11 to 25 pretty quick.
My highest kill streak is 37 and I think I have ~4 or 5 days played. But I am awesome so there's always that to consider.
But...but...Hamburgers are from the Germans!
The ending is pretty bad on top of that and doesn't really add up at all either.
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