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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    I don't have time to watch the Adam Savage video right at the moment, but it just the title reminded me of the Edison quote:
    I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

    * Response to the idea that he had failed after 10,000 experiments to develop a storage battery, as quoted in The World Book Encyclopedia (1993) Vol. E, p. 78;

    Also the Mystery Science Theater quote:
    As a wise old Observer once said, "To continually repeat the same action, and to expect a variant reaction, is surely a sign of madness."

    Also something one of my old bosses said towards game design:
    "Fail fast, fail often."

    If something doesn't work, do something else! And if that doesn't work, do a different something else, repeat until something works! It never ceases to astound me that people continue to try to tackle the same problems with the same tactics and always get the same results, yet never think to try something different, which would have at least a chance of success- in art, in engineering, in life, in personal behavior- all this is the same.

    Just because it would be nice if standard internal combustion engines ran just on air, and maybe in an ideal world that's how they'd work, but the world isn't exactly morally obligated to make this actually physically possible. It just doesn't work. Use petrol. Or diesel. or biofuel. Or scrap the whole thing and use an electric engine. Are these the best-in-an-ideal-world solutions? No, the magical air engine still is- such a shame it doesn't work, since the world is what the world is-not what you want the world to be. You could write up a 1000 page paper about how nice it would be if it worked, complain to engineers until you are blue in the face about how magical air engine would make their engines look idiotic in comparison...but it doesn't change the fact that such a thing, at the end of the day, still doesn't work. Why someone use the same strategy in their own personal lives is baffling. It is the strategy of lonely people, of long-standing abusive relationships, of failed businesses, of collapsed nations, of starving artists, of thousand year old conflicts.

    It doesn't work. Do something else. Human beings and their behaviors are not mystically immune to the scientific method: research, observe, experiment. Use what works. Discard what doesn't. A principle so simple and so obvious that billions of people overlook it every single day, favoring of their own comfortable misery. Not that I myself don't do the same thing most of the time, otherwise I'd be a hell of a lot happier and more successful.

    OK this took me way longer to type than it would have to just watch the video, now I really need to run off to get lunch before I collapse. Need to stop typing out sermons and get on with improving my fucking art already.

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  • FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    PROX wrote: »
    I dont like clubs either. noisy smokey drinkey places.

    You aren't allowed to smoke in any of the bars in town, which makes them slightly more pleasant, but they're mostly sports bars so yeah it's still not very fun.

    There aren't any bars in town where you can hear your friends talk.

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    And 'Franklin Live!' is now over.

    rts on
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  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Abstract Metal ThingyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    PROX wrote: »
    I dont like clubs either. noisy smokey drinkey places.

    They are good place to go dancing with friends. I don't like the smoke but denver outlawed smoking indoors so that's taken care of. I would say they are horrible places to meet people. How 'good' a club is depends on what type of club it is and what sort of crowd of people you get along with / are looking for.

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    No, I am not really communist. Yes, it is weird that I use this name.
  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    whenever I mess up in class I become so amazingly embarassed, i've gotten better at not showing it but I cant seem to stop my absurd amount of shameeee

    edit: actually whenever I draw I become ashameddd then I do it again

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    Angel, I thought the quote was "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Loomdun...wait until everyone expects you to draw well in each class. When you have a bad day it's rough. It would be super hard to have to demo everyday in front of the entire class with only 1/5th the time the rest of the class gets for their drawings.

    rts on
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  • PROXPROX Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I don't dance.

    You can dance if you want to.

    You can leave your friends behind.

    Cuz your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    cakemikz wrote: »
    Loomdun...wait until everyone expects you to draw well in each class. When you have a bad day it's rough. It would be super hard to have to demo everyday in front of the entire class with only 1/5th the time the rest of the class gets for their drawings.

    ughghgh fortunately I wont be having to do that any time soon

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  • lyriumlyrium Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    cakemikz wrote: »

    gahhhh I missed it!! biggest disappointment ever!! D:

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    There will hopefully be future broadcasts of Franklin Live!. The trouble is getting him to not notice when I setup the camera. When he sees it go up he just wants to come inside.

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • CharisCharis Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    You could actually just leave it up for a few days, and then he'll get used to it and stop being interested.

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  • FlayFlay Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    You need to set up a system whereby Franklin can answer our questions and solve our life problems.

    gentle-ben-the-simpsons-20080317042636527.jpg

    Flay on
  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Charis wrote: »
    You could actually just leave it up for a few days, and then he'll get used to it and stop being interested.

    Well its always setup...but to shoot him out on the balcony I have to block the doorway between the balcony and the rest of the room...which makes him want to come inside. He doesn't like being cutoff.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    Angel, I thought the quote was "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."

    Well that's probably the real quote and not the bastardized Mystery Science Theater version I know.

    EDIT: Hmm, Google attributes the quote to either Benjamin Franklin or Albert Einstein...in any case it was said by a smart person and not some bumper-sticker writing schlub.

    EDIT2: On closer examination probably neither of them said it. But whatever.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    vistaprint really, really, really sucks

    huge

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Gentle... Ben.

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  • CheerfulBearCheerfulBear Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I am not a fan of Ben Franklin.

    There, I said it.

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  • ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    vistaprint really, really, really sucks

    huge

    Haha, well I guess that clears that up. I was kinda wondering honestly... the friend that told me about it isn't exactly big on quality when it comes to that kind of stuff.

    Edit: I'm with you bear. TJ is where it's at.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    I am not a fan of Ben Franklin.

    There, I said it.

    I like him, I just hated his autobiography when I was forced to read it in 10th grade because it was drier than a desert on Mars.

    I don't like William Franklin. William Franklin was a dick.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I like Franklin in my wallet.

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  • CheerfulBearCheerfulBear Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    William, you are my bastard son.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    I can't tell if this is really cool, really ugly, or both.
    http://jalopnik.com/5398864/local-motors-rally-fighter-the-first+ever-creative-commons-car
    I also can't tell why someone would think putting a stencil of Wilford Brimley on the side of your concept car would be a good idea.

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    so excited for tonights workshopp

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  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I can't tell if this is really cool, really ugly, or both.
    http://jalopnik.com/5398864/local-motors-rally-fighter-the-first+ever-creative-commons-car
    I also can't tell why someone would think putting a stencil of Wilford Brimley on the side of your concept car would be a good idea.

    This isn't anything new, it's just an idea of "How loose can we make the specifications and still have something resembling a car"

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    vistaprint really, really, really sucks

    huge

    Haha, well I guess that clears that up. I was kinda wondering honestly... the friend that told me about it isn't exactly big on quality when it comes to that kind of stuff.

    Edit: I'm with you bear. TJ is where it's at.

    they're basically the sweatshop of printing and design

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  • D-RobeD-Robe Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    cakemikz wrote: »
    D-Robe wrote: »
    Ikage and Cake don't seem like team players.
    Loom?
    Also wtf is this about? I am an amazing team player. How did this even come up?

    This was about seeing if bacon's balls were viable. I wouldn't worry about it.
    I know you're a team player. You're the teamiest of players.

    Unrelated, somebody took $10 dollars out of my checking account for "Wisdom".
    Wtf? Not cool. Not cool at all.

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    Cheese.
  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    beavotrons gotta find money to afford all that porn she buys somehow

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I can't tell if this is really cool, really ugly, or both.
    http://jalopnik.com/5398864/local-motors-rally-fighter-the-first+ever-creative-commons-car
    I also can't tell why someone would think putting a stencil of Wilford Brimley on the side of your concept car would be a good idea.

    Bacon, what kind of cars do you like?

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    He loves hatchbacks.


    Especially mine.

    rts on
    skype: rtschutter
  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    cakemikz wrote: »
    He loves hatchbacks.


    Especially mine.

    Hells yeah

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Hatchbacks are the shiz. Especially subies.
    I loves mine:
    2550616420_a88a862fed_o.jpg

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Damn, Prosp! You drive a Subaru?

    This is my hatchback... which is all I could afford 3 years ago...
    open_415x253.jpg

    This is the one I'll drive in Japan.
    car3ed.JPG

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I drive my legs

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    Tonight I went to a silent film, a 'mexican' bar and a russian nightclub.

    I had a point, but I truly can't remember what it was.

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited November 2009
    look at this stupid place

    full of all these stupid jerks

    Knob on
  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    isnt knob a moderator?

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    look at this stupid place

    full of all these stupid jerks

    hey kravik



    screw



    you


    I say this with the utmost of love and affection.
    I seem to be drunk.

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    edited November 2009
    i haven't talked to a tynic in a dog's age

    how's your stuff

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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    look at this stupid place

    full of all these stupid jerks

    You're not helping.

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