Hey I JUST installed this game, and I was about to make my first evar guy for any game like this (most intensive RPGs i've played have been Mass Effect and FFVIII).
What should I make? I'm leaning towards Elf Mage or Human Warrior right now. Without giving away ANY spoilers, what do you recommend? Or does it really matter?
Oh, and please tell me I can hook up with the redhead. I've put in waaaayy too much time to not have that be the case, and it seems like everything I do pisses Morrigan off.
Redhead being Leliana? Yes you can. She's harder than the others, though, to reach its conclusion. You need 100 approval rating or near to... get invited to her tent.
That's ok. I'll just have to buy some more shoes.
This is off topic. This thread is for discussing Dragon Age: Origins, the Bioware RPG, not sexual difficulties in our real dating lives.
Man, the zombie fight at Radcliffe castle is ridiculously hard, they just keep coming. Not really sure what I can do either, Morrigan is the best AOE I have and she doesn't even have any damaging AOE (just the stun shout).
It doesn't help that the knights in the first part of the fight run into burning oil to surround one zombie so that hardly any of them are left by the end of that fight.
Ugh I'm having very serious trouble getting start in fear of fucking myself in terms of builds.
Is this one of those games where if you don't go down the right path you are kinda boned or is everything pretty valid aside from going the completely unfocused (only taking 2 talents in each branch type deal)?
Oh, and please tell me I can hook up with the redhead. I've put in waaaayy too much time to not have that be the case, and it seems like everything I do pisses Morrigan off.
Redhead being Leliana? Yes you can. She's harder than the others, though, to reach its conclusion. You need 100 approval rating or near to... get invited to her tent.
That's ok. I'll just have to buy some more shoes.
Just don't accidentally tell Morrigan you love her or you'll be out of luck. Stupid Morrigan.
Ugh I'm having very serious trouble getting start in fear of fucking myself in terms of builds.
Is this one of those games where if you don't go down the right path you are kinda boned or is everything pretty valid aside from going the completely unfocused (only taking 2 talents in each branch type deal)?
If you manage to create anything but an awesome character, you're challenged.
It's shockingly well balanced, especially compared to similar D&D-related CRPGs. I don't know if doing a super wide spread of skills for warriors/rogues is a good plan, but if you pick one or two large areas to specialize in you'll be completely fine.
Ugh I'm having very serious trouble getting start in fear of fucking myself in terms of builds.
Is this one of those games where if you don't go down the right path you are kinda boned or is everything pretty valid aside from going the completely unfocused (only taking 2 talents in each branch type deal)?
If you manage to create anything but an awesome character, you're challenged.
It's shockingly well balanced, especially compared to similar D&D-related CRPGs. I don't know if doing a super wide spread of skills for warriors/rogues is a good plan, but if you pick one or two large areas to specialize in you'll be completely fine.
Is Stealth remotely valid for someone still focused on raw DPS as opposed to traps or stealing (this is for rogues obviously) ?
So uhh, has anyone else given morrigan the black grimoire from the mage tower yet?
Flemmeth is fucking invinciblle. She kills all my party members, then kills me, then that's the end of the fight! How do you plan around that?
Technically all of that is a spoiler. And theres more than one way to resolve that situation.
I gave it to her, but I have no idea what your spoiler is about. I'm kind of wishing I hadn't opened it, to be honest.
She
kissed me and made pillow talk when I gave it to her. Unless something else comes of it later, I gave it to her not long before I got dumped into the Fade, and I'm still working through that sequence.
Ugh, I keep ending up quoting shit from like 3 pages back.
I had to restart the download for Warden's Keep and Stone Prisoner several times over the past few days but they finally downloaded.
I finished the mage origin.
THAT BASTARD WAS A BLOOD MAGE
The game pretty much tells you this from the start, think back to what the Pride Fade tells you at the end of your Harrowing, it's pretty much telling you DON"T TRUST JOWEN!"
Which one was the pride fade?
Mouse is a pride fade, thats how he attempts to get to you, by sucking you off about how great you are and all that you can accomplish and that you could help poor little mouse with your awesome awesomness. If i recall it's last words to you once you work out what is it is something along the lines of "Beware of unquestioning trust etc etc"
I'm a bit disappointed with Warden's Keep. You get a nice chest, but you can't actually go back inside the damn keep after you clear it out. That's right, you can only look at it from outside.
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Ugh I'm having very serious trouble getting start in fear of fucking myself in terms of builds.
Is this one of those games where if you don't go down the right path you are kinda boned or is everything pretty valid aside from going the completely unfocused (only taking 2 talents in each branch type deal)?
If you manage to create anything but an awesome character, you're challenged.
It's shockingly well balanced, especially compared to similar D&D-related CRPGs. I don't know if doing a super wide spread of skills for warriors/rogues is a good plan, but if you pick one or two large areas to specialize in you'll be completely fine.
Is Stealth remotely valid for someone still focused on raw DPS as opposed to traps or stealing (this is for rogues obviously) ?
Yes, but you won't need to max it out or anything.
It helps for scouting and drawing baddies into specific choke points. Also, you can get off a backstab before a fight, lob an acid potion at archers and laugh, etc.
So I got Wynne today. Man having a dedicated really changes the game from hard as hell to not to bad. My group right now is Shale, Morrigan, Wynne and my dual wielding warrior of doom. I miss having a rogue around, so many different chest I cannot unlike it drives me nuts.
On the mages tower:
I found the sloth demon fight and the fights in the fade to be a ton of fun. Man sloth took every battle form and lots of tactical use of my abilities. But man beating shit out of him was a good feeling for all the shit he gave my group.
The last fight verse Uldred was actually pretty easy. The litany prevented the adds, Morrigan and Wynne kept the creature stunned. Topped it off with Shale taking the blows and my guy just ripping him a new one with his dual swords. But after killing him I felt like a hero finally. Redcliffe had such a bittersweet ending.
I'm a bit disappointed with Warden's Keep. You get a nice chest, but you can't actually go back inside the damn keep after you clear it out. That's right, you can only look at it from outside.
Not paying $15 for a useless rendering of a keep.
Preorder cancelled.
When planning is the basic gist, that you will potentially have 4 talent trees maxed and one or two extra talents?
As near as I can figure, you start with 2 at character creation, you get a free talent depending on origin, and one per level.
So, at level 20, you'd have 21 points + your default origin talent.
to balance against the awesome Win of Cone of Cold everything you wear will make you look like a complete and utter retard. I can't imagine the guy sitting down at Bioware designing the Mage gear and thinking "yeah that looks cool and totally not like you're wearing drag or an embroided sofa"
I'm a bit disappointed with Warden's Keep. You get a nice chest, but you can't actually go back inside the damn keep after you clear it out. That's right, you can only look at it from outside.
Man
It's almost like they were price gouging for mediocre first day DLC.
Oh anyone notice their party slowly moving to the darkside as the game progresses? My party first was my guy, dog, Allister and Morrigan. Allister and I were buddy buddy, dog was dog and Morrigan kind of tagged along a little.
But recently it is more Morrigan, my character who is turning darker by the day, Shale and Wynne because she heals me. My banter is more about crushing heads and laughing at small children dieing than it is about saving the world. Is it only me getting a party like this?
Oh and heard the boob banter between Leliana and Morrigan that was classic.
apparently dragons in dragon age are tiny little fucks that look like baby dragons
underwhelmed to say the least
Also the zombie attack at redclif is impossible on normal
the first attack is easy but the second is insane with about 30 goddamn zombies
playing a mage and i will cast inferno then tempest and that was taking care of everything but as the game goes on I'm getting raped
I dunno, maybe my game bugged or something but I found the nd wave pretty easy. after the frst fuck ton of zombies they pretty much just came in 1's and 2's till it ended.
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I'm dead serious."
I feel special since I got through the zombie invasion on Normal. Only one of my party was standing at the end, but it was a zombie horde I don't expect many to survive it in the first place.
apparently dragons in dragon age are tiny little fucks that look like baby dragons
underwhelmed to say the least
Also the zombie attack at redclif is impossible on normal
the first attack is easy but the second is insane with about 30 goddamn zombies
playing a mage and i will cast inferno then tempest and that was taking care of everything but as the game goes on I'm getting raped
Don't worry, there are larger dragons.
MUCH, MUCH larger. I've seen the tiny dragon in a video. Oh yeah, nothing like the ones you get to fight later. And they will tear your shit up.
And speaking of dragons and their ilk, does anyone seriously know where to get more drake scales? I had enough to build the first set of drake armor from Wade's (he is awesome, by the way). He wants to try again, but I need more scales. I only have two left, and the temple where I got them is clear of them. I haven't come across the "dragon" buddy described, so perhaps I'll come across more drakes somewhere?
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apparently dragons in dragon age are tiny little fucks that look like baby dragons
underwhelmed to say the least
Also the zombie attack at redclif is impossible on normal
the first attack is easy but the second is insane with about 30 goddamn zombies
playing a mage and i will cast inferno then tempest and that was taking care of everything but as the game goes on I'm getting raped
Don't worry, there are larger dragons.
Good
I dunno, maybe my game bugged or something but I found the nd wave pretty easy. after the frst fuck ton of zombies they pretty much just came in 1's and 2's till it ended.
strange
sometimes when i played the attack over again the zombies at the first attack would come in 1 and 2 but other times they all came at once
I found Redcliffe Village quite easy with two tanks. Alistair and I are both sword and board warriors, and we really had no problem being surrounded by dozens of foes. Wynne healed and Leliana went around backstabbing people.
It also helped that I had lots of pre-order and DLC armor equipped on them, plus this ridiculous sword you can easily forge that has three rune slots and lots of damage and stat bonuses. Those items, specifically the Blood Dragon Armor from the collector's edition and the Warden's Commander armor from Warden's Keep, make the game a little easy. You just have so much damn armor and stamina from the two of those, you become invincible.
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Could someone point me in Wynne's direction? I still don't have a dedicated healer in my party and I'm about to head into Orzammar and I have a feeling I'm about to get my ass kicked.
Could someone point me in Wynne's direction? I still don't have a dedicated healer in my party and I'm about to head into Orzammar and I have a feeling I'm about to get my ass kicked.
Could someone point me in Wynne's direction? I still don't have a dedicated healer in my party and I'm about to head into Orzammar and I have a feeling I'm about to get my ass kicked.
As light on spoilers as you can please.
Head to the mage tower.
Thank you!
Buster the dog thanks you too. Being the party's tank with no healer sucks.
I freakin' hate mages. Rushing them with a melee dude is just asking to get a Cone of Cold to the face.
The way I've been dealing with them is to engage them with Morrigan to get their attention, then smash their frail bodies with my melee guys while they're distracted. Either that or just nuke the crap out of them with area of effect spells.
When facing a large group of baddies, I always try and kill the mages first. They can dish out some serious damage.
do I HAVE to kill leliana? I mea, I really don't care about her but she's got maxed lockpicking and is my only lock picker at the moment......that would be really annoying passing up tons of locked chests....
I didn't go the Reaver route, but why do you have to kill Leliana? Is it because she's in your party and she disapproves of destroying the ashes? I assume it relates to siding with the cultists, and if you have Leliana and Wynne along, who are very religious, they won't be too happy. I suppose if you want to keep her alive, don't bring her along. Head out and then swap in someone less religious and "good".
well, it would be one hell of a run back, and I'm not sure if the cultist would even let me leave. can anyone confirm is this is possible? or even better, know of another rogue I can recruit with atleast 2 ranks in lockpicking?
I don't know if the cultists will let you leave, but I can confirm that if you bench Leliana, you don't have to kill her, but she may want to leave your party afterwards if you aren't a good enough liar. The only other rogue party member starts with zero ranks of lockpicking.
Your best option, however, is probably to just go ahead and kill Leliana (or try switching her out if you'd rather walk than fight), unlock Reaver, then reload your save before destroying the Ashes, choose not to destroy them, and spit on Kolgrim's corpse on the way out (after a brief interlude creating said corpse). Specialization unlocks aren't restricted to a playthrough, so you can be cheesy that way.
Re: drakes:
In addition to the crapload of drakes in the temple (which gave me six scales) I recall there being a handful in the mage tower, though I didn't get any scales there. They might have been the baby ones, though. I forget.
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So...FUCK!
I bought the game, but before buying it I decided to stupidly buy the DLC with the Shale dude.
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What should I make? I'm leaning towards Elf Mage or Human Warrior right now. Without giving away ANY spoilers, what do you recommend? Or does it really matter?
This is off topic. This thread is for discussing Dragon Age: Origins, the Bioware RPG, not sexual difficulties in our real dating lives.
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It doesn't help that the knights in the first part of the fight run into burning oil to surround one zombie so that hardly any of them are left by the end of that fight.
Is this one of those games where if you don't go down the right path you are kinda boned or is everything pretty valid aside from going the completely unfocused (only taking 2 talents in each branch type deal)?
Just don't accidentally tell Morrigan you love her or you'll be out of luck. Stupid Morrigan.
Edit: Morgan, Morrigan, whatever.
It's shockingly well balanced, especially compared to similar D&D-related CRPGs. I don't know if doing a super wide spread of skills for warriors/rogues is a good plan, but if you pick one or two large areas to specialize in you'll be completely fine.
Is Stealth remotely valid for someone still focused on raw DPS as opposed to traps or stealing (this is for rogues obviously) ?
I gave it to her, but I have no idea what your spoiler is about. I'm kind of wishing I hadn't opened it, to be honest.
She
Ugh, I keep ending up quoting shit from like 3 pages back.
Yes, but you won't need to max it out or anything.
It helps for scouting and drawing baddies into specific choke points. Also, you can get off a backstab before a fight, lob an acid potion at archers and laugh, etc.
On the mages tower:
The last fight verse Uldred was actually pretty easy. The litany prevented the adds, Morrigan and Wynne kept the creature stunned. Topped it off with Shale taking the blows and my guy just ripping him a new one with his dual swords. But after killing him I felt like a hero finally. Redcliffe had such a bittersweet ending.
Preorder cancelled.
As near as I can figure, you start with 2 at character creation, you get a free talent depending on origin, and one per level.
So, at level 20, you'd have 21 points + your default origin talent.
Create a Mage
Get Cone of Cold
Win.
to balance against the awesome Win of Cone of Cold everything you wear will make you look like a complete and utter retard. I can't imagine the guy sitting down at Bioware designing the Mage gear and thinking "yeah that looks cool and totally not like you're wearing drag or an embroided sofa"
Man
It's almost like they were price gouging for mediocre first day DLC.
But recently it is more Morrigan, my character who is turning darker by the day, Shale and Wynne because she heals me. My banter is more about crushing heads and laughing at small children dieing than it is about saving the world. Is it only me getting a party like this?
Oh and heard the boob banter between Leliana and Morrigan that was classic.
underwhelmed to say the least
Also the zombie attack at redclif is impossible on normal tried it like 20 freaking times
the first attack is easy but the second is insane with about 30 goddamn zombies
playing a mage and i will cast inferno then tempest and that was taking care of everything but as the game goes on I'm starting to get raped
I dunno, maybe my game bugged or something but I found the nd wave pretty easy. after the frst fuck ton of zombies they pretty much just came in 1's and 2's till it ended.
I'm dead serious."
And speaking of dragons and their ilk, does anyone seriously know where to get more drake scales? I had enough to build the first set of drake armor from Wade's (he is awesome, by the way). He wants to try again, but I need more scales. I only have two left, and the temple where I got them is clear of them. I haven't come across the "dragon" buddy described, so perhaps I'll come across more drakes somewhere?
strange
sometimes when i played the attack over again the zombies at the first attack would come in 1 and 2 but other times they all came at once
Wynne for heals, Alistair because we're bros and he's hilarious, and Leliana because french girls are hot. And I need a rogue.
WHen I do an evil playthrough, it'll probably be me as a mage, Zevran, morrigan, shale. MAybe? We'll see.
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It also helped that I had lots of pre-order and DLC armor equipped on them, plus this ridiculous sword you can easily forge that has three rune slots and lots of damage and stat bonuses. Those items, specifically the Blood Dragon Armor from the collector's edition and the Warden's Commander armor from Warden's Keep, make the game a little easy. You just have so much damn armor and stamina from the two of those, you become invincible.
As light on spoilers as you can please.
Head to the mage tower.
Thank you!
Buster the dog thanks you too. Being the party's tank with no healer sucks.
That's right, I pulled the fantasy version of the "Angry Black Man".
Awesome.
The way I've been dealing with them is to engage them with Morrigan to get their attention, then smash their frail bodies with my melee guys while they're distracted. Either that or just nuke the crap out of them with area of effect spells.
When facing a large group of baddies, I always try and kill the mages first. They can dish out some serious damage.
Your best option, however, is probably to just go ahead and kill Leliana (or try switching her out if you'd rather walk than fight), unlock Reaver, then reload your save before destroying the Ashes, choose not to destroy them, and spit on Kolgrim's corpse on the way out (after a brief interlude creating said corpse). Specialization unlocks aren't restricted to a playthrough, so you can be cheesy that way.
Re: drakes:
In addition to the crapload of drakes in the temple (which gave me six scales) I recall there being a handful in the mage tower, though I didn't get any scales there. They might have been the baby ones, though. I forget.
I bought the game, but before buying it I decided to stupidly buy the DLC with the Shale dude.
And what do I find in the goddamn game box?
A code to download the damn thing for free.
:x
Well, least I know me getting Shale will be likely. Was it the normal version you bought?
Nah but I was stupid and should have read, it even said in the description.