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Looking for an Apartment [Tips for not being screwed]
Ok I will be honest I am 26, and never looked for a place of my own. I commuted from my house during college and afterwards lived with my 40year old sister (save me from her please) for 4-5 years. So I do not have the streets smarts in how to approach apartment shopping.
I work at West Hollywood, CA and want something local to the place. I been looking at craiglist but I need to get myself educated before contacting people. So any tips, what questions to ask? How can I show I am a clean, organized, financially responsible ideal candidate
thank you
“You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...”
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
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Sir CarcassI have been shown the end of my worldRound Rock, TXRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
I would worry more about them being clean than you. Unless it's in a tough market or an upscale place, or you have some horrible history, getting an apartment is easy.
Ask to see the actual unit you will be living in, if possible, and inspect everything. Look for signs of insects or water damage. Also, go through the lease carefully before signing. Be prepared to pay a bullshit "application fee", which is usually like $50. Also a security deposit (usually equal to 1 months rent).
Look into the utilities for the place: Water, Sewer, Garbage, Electricity, Gas.
It's common for Water/Sewer (and sometimes Garbage) to be included in the price of rent. Figure out if you'll have gas or electric hot water heater and gas or electric stove. See what appliances will come with the place. Fridge, stove, oven, washer/dryer, dishwasher, etc. If you're by yourself, you probably won't need a dishwasher.
Always make sure you see the place before signing.
I would worry more about them being clean than you. Unless it's in a tough market or an upscale place, or you have some horrible history, getting an apartment is easy.
This.
Also, having no rental history, you might be asked to have a cosigner.
Don't be afraid to view multiple apartments and take a digital camera with you when you go so that you can compare places later. If you're sensitive to noise, try to live on the top floor of the building - it tends to be quieter. Make sure you're clean cut when you meet perspective landlords. If you can show that you have a steady paycheck and have had one for a while, that may help with the lack of renting history.
While Craigslist is awesome, if you're not finding what you're looking for after awhile, you might consider Westside Rentals. I used them when looking for my last place in the LA area. Also, places that are privately owned and managed tend to have lower rent than those managed corporately - sometimes there is a difference in the kind of maintainance response you get and sometimes not.
Yeah, we used Westside rentals for our place, highly recommend the cross search between that and Craigslist on a daily basis. Just keep in mind - LA is a big city and there's an awfully large amount of bad apartments. We checked out 30 before we settled on the house we're living in now. We love it, but it took a lot of work and quick action on our part. The good apartments don't stick around for a reason.
I did that before I moved out. Not that I'm worried that I'm going to run head first into a Judge Judy show, desperate for laws and facts, but in reading them it gives me an understanding of certain processes that both you and the landlord must follow, eg where the deposit check must be kept, who's responsible for what and all that.
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I did that before I moved out. Not that I'm worried that I'm going to run head first into a Judge Judy show, desperate for laws and facts, but in reading them it gives me an understanding of certain processes that both you and the landlord must follow, eg where the deposit check must be kept, who's responsible for what and all that.
This. Because we did not follow Michigan rental laws, my old rental company tried to say that in addition fo the 1100 dollar security deposit, we owed 3200 dollars on top of that. So make sure you look that up and do EVERYTHING they say to do so you have full protection by your state laws. I am not saying that you will encounter a situation as bad as mine but in this time of economic hardship certain companies may try to get more out of you then they rightfully deserve.
If you're at all concerned about loud parties or some screaming motherfuckers playing midnight dominos, it might be a good idea to swing through the complex at night.
Make sure to also check out the area around prospective apartment complexes. Look for street parking availability or nearby parking lots for when you have some friends over. Check to see if the windows move. Water pressure is nice. Feral has some really good suggestions.
Look under the sinks and in the cupboards for mold.
Look in, behind, and under the fridge and freezer for grunginess.
Look at all the electrical outlets. They should have three holes, not two. (Edit: and make sure there's enough of them.)
Look at the ceiling. Make sure there are no discolored patchs or areas where it's blistering or curved. Same for all the walls.
Take a look at the outsides of the other units. Do they look clean or is there junk everywhere?
Look for heaters and air conditioning ducts. Also look for a thermostat. If you don't see them, ask what kind of heating and cooling the place has.
Who pays for water and sewage? You or the landlord?
Do you have a car? Find out what the parking situation is.
Walk around the perimeter of the walls. Are there areas that feel unusually warmer or cooler? Those might be areas of poor insulation.
There's probably other stuff I haven't thought of.
Also, find out who the precise landlord is if you are subletting. For your first apartment, I'd suggest a managed community for a year or so. They take a lot of the iffy legal stuff out out of the question (using pretty standard leases and the like) to make the process and payment easier (and tend to have a more middle ground quality of place) though they have their own problems. Renting from a private landlord or subleasing can be disastrous at worst, or incredibly awesome at best. You really have to gauge the situation to figure out which, though.
Thank you everyone, really appreciate the advice..... now let the searching begin... good thing I am not in a major rush. Planning in January or February next year to do the move.
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“You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go...”
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
-Read every single word.
-Under what conditions are you allowed to move out without any obligation on their part? As in, if you have truly terrible neighbors (let's say they deal meth out of their place and you want OUT) will you be allowed to break your lease early with no obligations?
-If you do decide to break your lease early for reasons that aren't your renter's fault, what do you have to do? In Texas, you have to give them X amount of notification and you pay $X, which is usually 1 month notification and one month's rent paid as a releasing fee so they can find someone new.
-If you decide to move out but find a subleaser, how is that handled?
-Basically think of every possible thing that could go wrong during your contract period and make sure that contingency is covered, in writing, in your lease, and both you and the renter have signed off on it.
-How is maintenance handled? Can you ask anyone who lives in similar units what their opinion of maintenance is?
-Can they give you a copy of their moveout inspection form in advance? This is a form that basically says "For X damage to Y part of the apartment, pay $Z." Also make sure they include a line in the lease that says they won't charge for "normal wear and tear" and then get in writing what constitutes "normal".
-Find out what the notification time is for saying that you're going to move out at the end of your lease. So for example, at the last place I lived, my lease was up in June. The notification time period was 60 days- so I had to notify them 60 days in advance that I wanted to move out. If I notified them in May, I would have to pay rent until July. Sucks, but that's how they did it.
If it's a building with other residents, ask the landlord about the other residents, like if they smoke, how loud it gets, etc. A good landlord will know some of the details about all of the residents, this usually means that maintenance stuff gets taken care of, a bad landlord won't know much about them and you'll get answers like, "Well, I don't see many clunkers outside so they're probably all not students"
Before you sign, go WITHOUT the person showing the place and walk around the neighborhood, walk up and down the block, walk through the alleys, walk behind the place. If you drive, drive around too. Can you find parking? Does your bank have a branch reasonably close? If your place doesn't have laundry, is there a laundry mat close by? Gas station, convenience store, etc? Do you feel safe walking around? Talk to people, if you don't feel safe talking to people in the neighborhood, you probably don't want to live there.
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Ask to see the actual unit you will be living in, if possible, and inspect everything. Look for signs of insects or water damage. Also, go through the lease carefully before signing. Be prepared to pay a bullshit "application fee", which is usually like $50. Also a security deposit (usually equal to 1 months rent).
Apartments can look awesome but have cheapo appliances, and if you're picky then that's a big deal.
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Look in, behind, and under the fridge and freezer for grunginess.
Look at all the electrical outlets. They should have three holes, not two. (Edit: and make sure there's enough of them.)
Look at the ceiling. Make sure there are no discolored patchs or areas where it's blistering or curved. Same for all the walls.
Take a look at the outsides of the other units. Do they look clean or is there junk everywhere?
Look for heaters and air conditioning ducts. Also look for a thermostat. If you don't see them, ask what kind of heating and cooling the place has.
Who pays for water and sewage? You or the landlord?
Do you have a car? Find out what the parking situation is.
Walk around the perimeter of the walls. Are there areas that feel unusually warmer or cooler? Those might be areas of poor insulation.
There's probably other stuff I haven't thought of.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It's common for Water/Sewer (and sometimes Garbage) to be included in the price of rent. Figure out if you'll have gas or electric hot water heater and gas or electric stove. See what appliances will come with the place. Fridge, stove, oven, washer/dryer, dishwasher, etc. If you're by yourself, you probably won't need a dishwasher.
Always make sure you see the place before signing.
edit: This.
Also, having no rental history, you might be asked to have a cosigner.
While Craigslist is awesome, if you're not finding what you're looking for after awhile, you might consider Westside Rentals. I used them when looking for my last place in the LA area. Also, places that are privately owned and managed tend to have lower rent than those managed corporately - sometimes there is a difference in the kind of maintainance response you get and sometimes not.
I did that before I moved out. Not that I'm worried that I'm going to run head first into a Judge Judy show, desperate for laws and facts, but in reading them it gives me an understanding of certain processes that both you and the landlord must follow, eg where the deposit check must be kept, who's responsible for what and all that.
3DS FC: 4699-5714-8940 Playing Pokemon, add me! Ho, SATAN!
This. Because we did not follow Michigan rental laws, my old rental company tried to say that in addition fo the 1100 dollar security deposit, we owed 3200 dollars on top of that. So make sure you look that up and do EVERYTHING they say to do so you have full protection by your state laws. I am not saying that you will encounter a situation as bad as mine but in this time of economic hardship certain companies may try to get more out of you then they rightfully deserve.
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Also, find out who the precise landlord is if you are subletting. For your first apartment, I'd suggest a managed community for a year or so. They take a lot of the iffy legal stuff out out of the question (using pretty standard leases and the like) to make the process and payment easier (and tend to have a more middle ground quality of place) though they have their own problems. Renting from a private landlord or subleasing can be disastrous at worst, or incredibly awesome at best. You really have to gauge the situation to figure out which, though.
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
-Read every single word.
-Under what conditions are you allowed to move out without any obligation on their part? As in, if you have truly terrible neighbors (let's say they deal meth out of their place and you want OUT) will you be allowed to break your lease early with no obligations?
-If you do decide to break your lease early for reasons that aren't your renter's fault, what do you have to do? In Texas, you have to give them X amount of notification and you pay $X, which is usually 1 month notification and one month's rent paid as a releasing fee so they can find someone new.
-If you decide to move out but find a subleaser, how is that handled?
-Basically think of every possible thing that could go wrong during your contract period and make sure that contingency is covered, in writing, in your lease, and both you and the renter have signed off on it.
-How is maintenance handled? Can you ask anyone who lives in similar units what their opinion of maintenance is?
-Can they give you a copy of their moveout inspection form in advance? This is a form that basically says "For X damage to Y part of the apartment, pay $Z." Also make sure they include a line in the lease that says they won't charge for "normal wear and tear" and then get in writing what constitutes "normal".
-Find out what the notification time is for saying that you're going to move out at the end of your lease. So for example, at the last place I lived, my lease was up in June. The notification time period was 60 days- so I had to notify them 60 days in advance that I wanted to move out. If I notified them in May, I would have to pay rent until July. Sucks, but that's how they did it.