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Vagrant Story, fortunately, has.
Also, X-2 had a fun combat system. The story(or what amounted to one) was silly, though it was fun to play.
I'm surprised there's people who own PS2s that haven't played Nocturne. It's by far the best RPG on the console, if not of its generation.
They only printed like 5 copies of it the first time it was released...
Well, it was reprinted a few times. It's not impossible to get, just difficult. :P No more than the likes of Planescape: Torment.
Probably easier.
Now you have Action Points to manage that allow you to move around the battlefield and attack. One of the biggest changes is that your mage, Nina, primarily creates magic circles that your two other characters have to knock enemies into for massive damage. You can also customize your characters' skills. At one point I had a hard time choosing between a skill that regenerates your character's Action Points when he is attacked and a skill that would easily push enemies into Nina's magic circles.
Here's a couple of vids highlighting how much of a departure BoF5's battle system was:
Breath of Fire 2 Combat
Breath of Fire 5 Combat (Skip to 2:40)
Nocturne can be a nasty shock to the system if it's your first experience of the Shin Megami Tensei universe. It was the first SMT game I picked up and I crashed and burned hard on my first attempt. It wasn't until I got the Digital Devil Saga games and Persona 3 under my belt that Nocturne became a dream of a game instead of a nightmare.
Its still a great game and all, but I consider it more of an arthouse RPG than a mainstream one. Great game, not for everyone.
the plot and characters are actually very well-developed, they're just
compressed
the quartet of human beings you encounter over the course of the game probably have better motivations and personalities in their time onscreen (which is maybe fifteen or twenty minutes each, and that's being generous) than a lot of JRPG's fit into fifty hours
Shit, it's alright, but nowhere near that good. Digital Devil Saga is better than Nocturne.
And while Chrono Cross is rough looking like pretty much most 3D from then, I'd say it's one of the better aged ones.
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You're not being very clear at all man. I wish you'd just say it
I'm going to guess it's Vyse though
Because Vyse was pretty awesome
Being all Sky Piratey and shit
I never woulda put you for a Fina fan, but all right dudes
Whatever floats your boat if you know what I mean :winky:
It just came out over here in Europe but I'll be damned if I can find a single review of it. What's it like? Will it grab me and never let me go? Or will playing it make suicide seem like an attractive alternative?
I'm wondering whether I should grab it now or wait for a price drop - or just avoid it completely.
I don't know, it's made by Idea Factory. They've had a pretty bad track record.
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I mean in Japan, this is THE favorite Final Fantasy game. In the west it is Final Fantasy VII, which came in at 2nd in Japan.
I've always wondered if this was purely a cultural thing? Or if they really screwed up somewhere in the translation department?
To me, it is one of the best RPGs ever but over the last however many years, I've seen so many people bashing on it for no reason particular reason. They always bring up the laughing scene though, nearly every single time. We get it, it was stupid but it was in context to what was being said at the time and took up 3/4 minutes in a game that can take over 100 hours.
While X is not my favorite RPG ever, it's certainly my favorite Final Fantasy.
Honestly I find both FF7 and FF10 shit - FF12 is where it's at. It's the only final fantasy I've played without any sappy love story and the story doesn't revolve around saving the world.
See I thought that the story in FF12 was lacking badly in the story department. It seemed as if there was just enough story to continue the flow of the game but not enough so you got emotionally attached to anyone.
I got attached to Fran, Balthier, the blond dude you find in the prison and well pretty much every character except the "main characters" (sissy looking dude who wants to be a pirate, his friend, and the princess). I liked that a lot more. Also the story of "evil guys wanna use deus ex machina to fuck up your country real bad" is a lot more interesting than "emo guy with long silver hair aims to take down a meteor on the planet and fuck up the world for no good reason" and "hey we're stuck in some permanent cycle where people are summoned to- wait what?".
...FF IX and Super Mario RPG.
Also, I'd highly recommend Baten Kaitos (especially the prequel), Shadow Hearts (definitely play the third part if you don't mind ridiculous fanservice and unfulfilled story potential), Paper Mario and Golden Sun (you don't have to READ the text boxes, guys! It's much more fun that way!). And I'd recommend Final Fantasy X. Yeah. Great battle system. Exotic flair unlike anything else. Interesting plot. Some really great characters. Maybe I'm just not the type for being irredeemably disgusted by certain bad elements, I dunno.
Anyway, I'm looking for a great RPG myself. Something that isn't piss-easy without resorting to douchbaggery like "OH WAIT YOU DIDN'T FULFILL SECRET CONDITION #35 WELL DIE THEN" (I'm looking at you, DDS). I don't particularly care for the story; it just shouldn't be too... grating. We're talking Grandia-3-grating here.
So, in short, a rather difficult RPG without an obnoxiously stupid plot. Any ideas?
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite?
I disagree in that I thought that 12 was the first one with a decent plot. Plus it had such PRETTY effects
9 is still my favorite, but it's much more to do with the characterization than the actual 'plot'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3QOqvOnlOc
On the console side of things, if you want something more obscure, check out Summoner on the Playstation 2 (it technically has a PC port, but good luck on that). It has a good politics-based story, but it doesn't really hand it to you, same with the characters. Lots of text. Combat is good, but kind of annoying due to the AI limitations.
Enrique isn't bad
He just replaces Gilder
No one comes off well in that situation
I like the cut of your jib, dude with excellent taste in avatar choices
Yeah pretty much. He's also kind of whiny if I remember correctly. Boohoo, my country is evil
Demon's Souls :P
Well, JRPG. I usually prefer western stuff.
it's definitely one of the most cohesive final fantasy games, but it's nowhere near the best JRPG and even within the FF series its superiority is debatable
honestly as long as the megaten series is around it's impossible to make a case for any one game topping the genre
Valkyria Chronicles if you have a PS3
Also, if you have a PS3 and don't have Valkyria Chronicles I will bug you until you buy it, because it's quite possibly the best game on the system