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Combinin' some meds

MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
edited November 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I got sick! Woo! Now I've been taking dayquil and I was wondering if I can also take one of the numerous Zicam drug things to shorten this cold as much as I can.

I'm pretty paranoid about combining over the counter drugs and wanna make sure I'm not gonna do something stupid.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    I'm pretty sure Zicam isn't technically "medicine", so you should be fine.


    IANAD and all that... but I think Zicam is just Zinc and Glucose

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    This is Zicam, essentially:

    Zinc Gluconate


    Edit: And I don't know about the anosmia bit, but I've used it and I smell fine.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    You can combine those things, but the bigger question is why are you taking "snake oil" in an attempt to reduce the symptoms of your cold?

    You're essentially consuming a zinc-fortified cough drop. So yes, you can take cough drops with dayquil.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    At least he's not asking about Oscillococcinum. Muscovy duck liver extract...wooo!

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Veretas wrote: »
    I got sick! Woo! Now I've been taking dayquil and I was wondering if I can also take one of the numerous Zicam drug things to shorten this cold as much as I can.

    I'm pretty paranoid about combining over the counter drugs and wanna make sure I'm not gonna do something stupid.

    Read the boxes and look for drug interaction warnings.

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I usually have take twice the does of Sudafed in the morning for it to even effect me.

    Is this a bad thing?

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    I usually have take twice the does of Sudafed in the morning for it to even effect me.

    Is this a bad thing?

    Only if you need it to breathe on a regular basis

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    I usually have take twice the does of Sudafed in the morning for it to even effect me.

    Is this a bad thing?

    Only if you need it to breathe on a regular basis

    I have to take it daily (give or take) about two/2.5 months out of the year for seasonal allergies.
    I take fexofenidine and nasal steroids daily for constant allergies.

    My entire respirtory/sinus system is pretty fubar.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    If I took a double dose of Sudafed I think it would give me heart palpitations.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    I usually have take twice the does of Sudafed in the morning for it to even effect me.

    Is this a bad thing?

    Only if you need it to breathe on a regular basis

    I have to take it daily (give or take) about two/2.5 months out of the year for seasonal allergies.
    I take fexofenidine and nasal steroids daily for constant allergies.

    My entire respirtory/sinus system is pretty fubar.

    What does your allergist have to say about it?

    I've dealt with horrible allergies my entire life. I would rather be on a daily regimen of Claritin than to take two Sudafed.

    But, I'm not a doctor, so you should really talk to your allergist and see if that's the best option for you.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    What does your allergist have to say about it?

    I've dealt with horrible allergies my entire life. I would rather be on a daily regimen of Claritin than to take two Sudafed.

    But, I'm not a doctor, so you should really talk to your allergist and see if that's the best option for you.

    Claritin and Sudafed do completely different things... unless you mean Claritin-D, which has a decongestant ingredient.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Veretas wrote: »
    I got sick! Woo! Now I've been taking dayquil and I was wondering if I can also take one of the numerous Zicam drug things to shorten this cold as much as I can.

    I'm pretty paranoid about combining over the counter drugs and wanna make sure I'm not gonna do something stupid.

    You'll be fine. Apparently the intranasal Zicam can brick your sense of smell though, so I'd be wary of those (they also won't do anything useful, but that isn't related to safety).

    Don't take anything else with acetaminophen in it though. Multiple flu remedies are everyone's favourite way of getting accidental paracetamol overdose...

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    I usually have take twice the does of Sudafed in the morning for it to even effect me.

    Is this a bad thing?

    No, it's not a bad thing, especially for the times when it's seasonal. You probably want to get generic pseudo ephedrine, though, so you save money. Most OTC's dosages are very small, and to be OTC they have to be relatively safe (with acetaminophen a notable exception).

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    What does your allergist have to say about it?

    I've dealt with horrible allergies my entire life. I would rather be on a daily regimen of Claritin than to take two Sudafed.

    But, I'm not a doctor, so you should really talk to your allergist and see if that's the best option for you.

    Claritin and Sudafed do completely different things... unless you mean Claritin-D, which has a decongestant ingredient.

    And there's the difference between allergies and sinuses. I have chronic sinus problems and used to use Sudafed before they took out the pseudoephedrine. Then Sudafed just sucked and I was in pain until I discovered Advil Cold and Sinus, which works great for my sinuses not so much for the cold. For allergies I use Advil Allergy and Sinus (good for my allergies, does nothing for my sinuses) and I have to chose which one I take by figuring out what my symptoms are most likely from. I use this with regular Advil for the headache pain and a neti pot because, well, why not I'm using everything else. Oh, an a heating pad or one of these is great for helping with the sinus headaches as well.

    As for a cold, to decongest I steam. Boil some water in a pot, put a towel over it and my head and begin to breath again. It's also good for your pores. I keep a bunch of these on hand also because putting one in the shower when I'm stuffed from a cold/sinuses/allergies helps clear me out. You can do this with some soak crystals (like you would use in a foot soak) as well.

    As for combining meds, I don't but check the backs of the boxes as has been suggested and you can look up info on bad interactions online.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    They still sell Sudafed with pseudoephedrine - I didn't even know they sold Sudafed without it. You just have to ask for it from behind the counter.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I tried it a couple times, it's not as good as it was pre-meth heads ruining everything. The formula they use is definitely different even with the behind the counter vs what it was prior to the changes.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I tried it a couple times, it's not as good as it was pre-meth heads ruining everything. The formula they use is definitely different even with the behind the counter vs what it was prior to the changes.

    Pretty sure the behind the counter stuff is the same as it's always been--just make sure you're getting the stuff with pseudoephedrine, not phynlephedrine.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    I tried it a couple times, it's not as good as it was pre-meth heads ruining everything. The formula they use is definitely different even with the behind the counter vs what it was prior to the changes.

    Pretty sure the behind the counter stuff is the same as it's always been--just make sure you're getting the stuff with pseudoephedrine, not phynlephedrine.

    Yeah, this sounds like placebo disappointment or something.

    Sudafed (old OTC, now available behind the counter without presecription) has always been 30mg of pseudoephedrine (hence, the name) and nothing else except coloring and filler.

    The new OTC stuff is phenylephrine, which is a lot less potent, and noticeably sucks compared to the original formula.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Around here it seems difficult to find phenylephrine. Didn't a study come out that shows that it basically doesn't work?

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    EggyToast wrote: »
    Around here it seems difficult to find phenylephrine. Didn't a study come out that shows that it basically doesn't work?

    I wouldn't be surprised. I tried it once and it basically... didn't work. Went to the pharmacist's counter after that... kind of a funny scene, me all a-sniffle, "Man, that new Sudafed just doesn't do it for me. You have the good stuff?"

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    What does your allergist have to say about it?

    I've dealt with horrible allergies my entire life. I would rather be on a daily regimen of Claritin than to take two Sudafed.

    But, I'm not a doctor, so you should really talk to your allergist and see if that's the best option for you.

    Claritin and Sudafed do completely different things... unless you mean Claritin-D, which has a decongestant ingredient.

    I did mean Claritin-D, which I was on for years.

    And to everybody saying that allergies and sinus problems are different, the dude I was responding to very clearly said he had seasonal allergies.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    And to everybody saying that allergies and sinus problems are different, the dude I was responding to very clearly said he had seasonal allergies.

    Well, right... Sudafed helps clear you out and drain your sinuses... but it doesn't do the same thing an anti-histamine would do... which is to prevent the symptoms.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    RUNN1NGMAN wrote: »
    I tried it a couple times, it's not as good as it was pre-meth heads ruining everything. The formula they use is definitely different even with the behind the counter vs what it was prior to the changes.

    Pretty sure the behind the counter stuff is the same as it's always been--just make sure you're getting the stuff with pseudoephedrine, not phynlephedrine.

    Depends where you are, here in Oregon the pseudoephedrine stuff is now prescription only.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Any time you are ever concerned about drug interactions, please, please don't ask the internet. Ask a pharmacist or your doctor. Your local Walgreens/CVS/Fred's/whatever is glad to help you out.

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Any time you are ever concerned about drug interactions, please, please don't ask the internet. Ask a pharmacist or your doctor. Your local Walgreens/CVS/Fred's/whatever is glad to help you out.

    While I agree in principle, has any markedly bad advice been given here and not countered?

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Any time you are ever concerned about drug interactions, please, please don't ask the internet. Ask a pharmacist or your doctor. Your local Walgreens/CVS/Fred's/whatever is glad to help you out.

    While I agree in principle, has any markedly bad advice been given here and not countered?

    Not that I saw. But that's also partially because one of the drugs was a non-drug. I would hate for someone to come in here and ask whether they could combine their anti-depressants with their lupus medication (I am making this shit up as I go along, I do not know anything about lupus or mood balancers) or some shit like that and get any advice other than, "Sweet jesus, go talk to your doctor/pharmacist."

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    Well, yeah... true...

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Any time you are ever concerned about drug interactions, please, please don't ask the internet. Ask a pharmacist or your doctor. Your local Walgreens/CVS/Fred's/whatever is glad to help you out.

    While I agree in principle, has any markedly bad advice been given here and not countered?

    Not that I saw. But that's also partially because one of the drugs was a non-drug. I would hate for someone to come in here and ask whether they could combine their anti-depressants with their lupus medication (I am making this shit up as I go along, I do not know anything about lupus or mood balancers) or some shit like that and get any advice other than, "Sweet jesus, go talk to your doctor/pharmacist."

    Yes, I cringe when people start asking whether they should just stop/alter/supplement their psych meds (or whatever really) online.

    Flu remedies however are about as in the public domain as you're going to get (although still ridiculous easy to damage oneself with), so it doesn't really surprise me.

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