TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
I kind of want to read Gene Simmons' reaction, because he says he created the universal metal hand sign before Ronnie James Dio did (and there's the urban legend that he apparently trademarked the word "OJ")
I should say, the one panel that did really bother me was the one where the guy had a hand right in his face... that was WAAAAY too close for comfort.
On the other hand, there was one posted which was basically just a big muscle guy pulling back for a punch, which really didn't look that similar at all. *shrug*
I think the fact that the Bleach guy doesn't seem to care should go a long way to be honest... one man's homage is another man's plagiarism, and I think the reaction of the people being "copied" has a large stake in deciding which side of that line something falls.
Personally I think a far more relevant question is whether it's good... if it's a good story I really don't care if it's eerily similar to other works. If it's not good I really wouldn't care if it's the most unique and original idea in the whole wide world. Your mileage may vary *shrug*
It doesn't actually look particularly interesting to me... but then neither does Bleach!
Why is it suddenly 'trendy' for Peter Parker to lose his job? I doubt it'll impact the storylines much, and my prediction is that he'll find a new job once The Gauntlet is over. Besides, hasn't Peter Parker been jobless many times before?
Why is it suddenly 'trendy' for Peter Parker to lose his job? I doubt it'll impact the storylines much, and my prediction is that he'll find a new job once The Gauntlet is over. Besides, hasn't Peter Parker been jobless many times before?
Just seems like a cheesy marketing ploy to me.
I suppose it's an effort to be topical, as Spider-Man's Marvel's everyman hero, and should reflect things like the recession.
I still say Marvel should, as a counterpoint to Peter Parker, put out The Awesome Spider-Man, starring Ben Reilly, who has none of Peter's sad-sack problems.
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
This just in:
In an effort to highlight the recession, Peter Parker will get fired and ASM now turns into a $4 book.
So he gets fired from his job for Mayor Jameson, he just hops over to Frontline, right?
Is Jameson still mayor? Outside of that 24/7 arc, it seems like they've done nothing with that plot point.
In an effort to highlight the recession, Peter Parker will get fired and ASM now turns into a $4 book.
So he gets fired from his job for Mayor Jameson, he just hops over to Frontline, right?
Is Jameson still mayor? Outside of that 24/7 arc, it seems like they've done nothing with that plot point.
Well if they'd pursued it, it'd have become obvious that Jameson was putting more effort into trapping Spider-Man than Osborn was.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
Or do you just have to sit around through the coral of ASM writers until it's Waid's turn again to touch on that plot point.
I still say Marvel should, as a counterpoint to Peter Parker, put out The Awesome Spider-Man, starring Ben Reilly, who has none of Peter's sad-sack problems.
Munch, this is the bitching thread. You can't go and post something as awesome as that, even if it's just wishful thinking, in here. We have an awesome thread for just such a thing.
Or do you just have to sit around through the coral of ASM writers until it's Waid's turn again to touch on that plot point.
It wasn't really going anywhere anyway, he got in, went on a Spider-Man tirade, put tonnes of public money into building a patrol to defeat ONE of the countless hundreds of super villains and heroes that live in NYC then went on more anti-spider-man tirades. It was tiresome.
Not as tiresome as the Ben Reille/Kaine/Raptor storyline but almost.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
Think about it:
Ben Reilly works at the cool coffee place across the street from Harry Osborn, who gets so jealous he becomes Ben's archnemesis now.
(on this coffee kick, Chuck Dixon's use of "Sanddollars" has been the best faux-starbucks I've read in comics. And how Windows '98 was Curtains '98)
Munch, this is the bitching thread. You can't go and post something as awesome as that, even if it's just wishful thinking, in here. We have an awesome thread for just such a thing.
Oh man, I'm so mad that there's no Awesome Spider-Man.
Now I want to do a series of two-panel Goofus and Gallant comics, with side-by-side comparisons of Peter and Ben both dealing with the same problem.
Munch, this is the bitching thread. You can't go and post something as awesome as that, even if it's just wishful thinking, in here. We have an awesome thread for just such a thing.
Oh man, I'm so mad that there's no Awesome Spider-Man.
Now I want to do a series of two-panel Goofus and Gallant comics, with side-by-side comparisons of Peter and Ben both dealing with the same problem.
"Peter Parker has girl problems and just got fired from his job.
Ben Reilly fucks bitches, gets money."
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
Did Ben ever meet Jonah? That would have been a nice twist if for some reason he thought Ben was so much cooler than Peter and didn't treat him like crap.
Did Ben ever meet Jonah? That would have been a nice twist if for some reason he thought Ben was so much cooler than Peter and didn't treat him like crap.
JJJ was like best buds (though never admit it) with Peter when he and Ben were "cousins". He paid for his legal defense in Trial of Peter Parker/during jail time, helped with medical stuff when MJ was sick, hired Peter back at big bucks rate to get him back in New York, etc, etc. He viewed Peter as a son practically. Of course, soon as the baby was killed off and forgotten, we got to regress back to GET ME MY PICTURES and YOURE FIRED and other shouting stereotypes.
JJJ really just needs to find out about Spider-Man at this point and stop hassling him, its like a 60 year old plot point thats gone nowhere since the Spider Slayers.
Pfft, given the amount of 60 year old plot points they specifically chose to reintroduce I wouldn't hold your breath.
I just found most of the stuff since BND including JJJ to be extremely tedious. Surely theres something else you can do with the character besides that.
And what doesn't help is that Spidey has had TWO of his arch nemesis in positions of power for the last few years, Osborn and JJJ and he's still barely had to change his life at all.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
So this is the teaser for Ultimate Avengers #6:
What the hell, guys. This is like a commun ting these dayz.
Regarding Ultimate Comics, Robos is right about Spider-man, Ultimate Enemy is so far pretty confusing but is part of a much larger story, if you liked Millar's Ultimates stories you'll like Avengers, Ultimate X was surprisingly good, and New Ultimates was decent except for the huge misogyny. Oh and Armor Wars was great I thought.
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edited March 2010
Essentially, it's exactly the same as before Ultimatum. The only thing worth reading is Ultimate Spider-Man. I mean seriously, I just went over to S_D, and apparently Millar really, really wants to be the Michael Bay of Comics.
Seriously? Really, that's the solution to all of this? That Tony Stark's master plan was to restore his mind from a backup that he hadn't gotten around to updating in 3+ years? That's the kind of technologically illiterate mistake that my parents make, not Tony effing Stark. Not to mention that that's just an incredibly flimsy way to 'fix' the character (no fix at all would have been better than 'oh whatever he doesn't remember any of the civil war or anything). I didn't like a lot of the choices that Tony made, but, written properly, those choices could easily have been explained and, in the process, grown him as a character. Instead we get the literal reset button, and any relationships or perspectives that Tony's developed in the last several years are just gone. It's not even consistent within the issue, since, if his brain is rolled back as far as it supposedly is, then he wouldn't even know that Happy was dead. Seriously, this is almost as dumb as BND.
Good job, Fraction. At least before, when nothing was happening in IIM, we could at least have said "well, FWIW it's not actively erasing character development." I was just taking for granted that no writer would be lame/dumb enough to do that. I get that when a character is completely broken, sometimes this stuff is necessary, but Iron Man wasn't broken. This was just an easy way out, and a crappy one that invalidated a few years' worth of issues. (if it wasn't clear already, I'm really hoping that this doesn't stick)
Seriously? Really, that's the solution to all of this? That Tony Stark's master plan was to restore his mind from a backup that he hadn't gotten around to updating in 3+ years? That's the kind of technologically illiterate mistake that my parents make, not Tony effing Stark. Not to mention that that's just an incredibly flimsy way to 'fix' the character (no fix at all would have been better than 'oh whatever he doesn't remember any of the civil war or anything). I didn't like a lot of the choices that Tony made, but, written properly, those choices could easily have been explained and, in the process, grown him as a character. Instead we get the literal reset button, and any relationships or perspectives that Tony's developed in the last several years are just gone. It's not even consistent within the issue, since, if his brain is rolled back as far as it supposedly is, then he wouldn't even know that Happy was dead. Seriously, this is almost as dumb as BND.
Good job, Fraction. At least before, when nothing was happening in IIM, we could at least have said "well, FWIW it's not actively erasing character development." I was just taking for granted that no writer would be lame/dumb enough to do that. I get that when a character is completely broken, sometimes this stuff is necessary, but Iron Man wasn't broken. This was just an easy way out, and a crappy one that invalidated a few years' worth of issues. (if it wasn't clear already, I'm really hoping that this doesn't stick)
Yeah its pretty terrible, and it took 12 issues to achieve as well. At least BND had Parker beating the Kingpin to a pulp.
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Seriously? Really, that's the solution to all of this? That Tony Stark's master plan was to restore his mind from a backup that he hadn't gotten around to updating in 3+ years? That's the kind of technologically illiterate mistake that my parents make, not Tony effing Stark. Not to mention that that's just an incredibly flimsy way to 'fix' the character (no fix at all would have been better than 'oh whatever he doesn't remember any of the civil war or anything). I didn't like a lot of the choices that Tony made, but, written properly, those choices could easily have been explained and, in the process, grown him as a character. Instead we get the literal reset button, and any relationships or perspectives that Tony's developed in the last several years are just gone. It's not even consistent within the issue, since, if his brain is rolled back as far as it supposedly is, then he wouldn't even know that Happy was dead. Seriously, this is almost as dumb as BND.
Good job, Fraction. At least before, when nothing was happening in IIM, we could at least have said "well, FWIW it's not actively erasing character development." I was just taking for granted that no writer would be lame/dumb enough to do that. I get that when a character is completely broken, sometimes this stuff is necessary, but Iron Man wasn't broken. This was just an easy way out, and a crappy one that invalidated a few years' worth of issues. (if it wasn't clear already, I'm really hoping that this doesn't stick)
Yeah its pretty terrible, and it took 12 issues to achieve as well. At least BND had Parker beating the Kingpin to a pulp.
Didn't he beat Kinpin to a pulp in Back in Black? Was that part of BND? I don't read much Spider-Man, so it might be the same beatdown I'm thinking about.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
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With Iron Man, this is basically the second time now where Marvel has decided they knowingly pushed themselves in a corner with a certain character, and just pull the plug instead of trying to get out of it.
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On the other hand, there was one posted which was basically just a big muscle guy pulling back for a punch, which really didn't look that similar at all. *shrug*
I think the fact that the Bleach guy doesn't seem to care should go a long way to be honest... one man's homage is another man's plagiarism, and I think the reaction of the people being "copied" has a large stake in deciding which side of that line something falls.
Personally I think a far more relevant question is whether it's good... if it's a good story I really don't care if it's eerily similar to other works. If it's not good I really wouldn't care if it's the most unique and original idea in the whole wide world. Your mileage may vary *shrug*
Just seems like a cheesy marketing ploy to me.
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I suppose it's an effort to be topical, as Spider-Man's Marvel's everyman hero, and should reflect things like the recession.
I still say Marvel should, as a counterpoint to Peter Parker, put out The Awesome Spider-Man, starring Ben Reilly, who has none of Peter's sad-sack problems.
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In an effort to highlight the recession, Peter Parker will get fired and ASM now turns into a $4 book.
So he gets fired from his job for Mayor Jameson, he just hops over to Frontline, right?
Is Jameson still mayor? Outside of that 24/7 arc, it seems like they've done nothing with that plot point.
Well if they'd pursued it, it'd have become obvious that Jameson was putting more effort into trapping Spider-Man than Osborn was.
Munch, this is the bitching thread. You can't go and post something as awesome as that, even if it's just wishful thinking, in here. We have an awesome thread for just such a thing.
It wasn't really going anywhere anyway, he got in, went on a Spider-Man tirade, put tonnes of public money into building a patrol to defeat ONE of the countless hundreds of super villains and heroes that live in NYC then went on more anti-spider-man tirades. It was tiresome.
Not as tiresome as the Ben Reille/Kaine/Raptor storyline but almost.
Ben Reilly works at the cool coffee place across the street from Harry Osborn, who gets so jealous he becomes Ben's archnemesis now.
(on this coffee kick, Chuck Dixon's use of "Sanddollars" has been the best faux-starbucks I've read in comics. And how Windows '98 was Curtains '98)
Oh man, I'm so mad that there's no Awesome Spider-Man.
Now I want to do a series of two-panel Goofus and Gallant comics, with side-by-side comparisons of Peter and Ben both dealing with the same problem.
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"Peter Parker has girl problems and just got fired from his job.
Ben Reilly fucks bitches, gets money."
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I just found most of the stuff since BND including JJJ to be extremely tedious. Surely theres something else you can do with the character besides that.
And what doesn't help is that Spidey has had TWO of his arch nemesis in positions of power for the last few years, Osborn and JJJ and he's still barely had to change his life at all.
What the hell, guys. This is like a commun ting these dayz.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Good job, Fraction. At least before, when nothing was happening in IIM, we could at least have said "well, FWIW it's not actively erasing character development." I was just taking for granted that no writer would be lame/dumb enough to do that. I get that when a character is completely broken, sometimes this stuff is necessary, but Iron Man wasn't broken. This was just an easy way out, and a crappy one that invalidated a few years' worth of issues. (if it wasn't clear already, I'm really hoping that this doesn't stick)
Yeah its pretty terrible, and it took 12 issues to achieve as well. At least BND had Parker beating the Kingpin to a pulp.
Didn't he beat Kinpin to a pulp in Back in Black? Was that part of BND? I don't read much Spider-Man, so it might be the same beatdown I'm thinking about.
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