Goal is to (1) have a big upgrade from my current 4 year old system to be able to play some current gen games -- Borderlands, DA:O, ME2 -- at max settings, and (2) be somewhat future proof (esp. in the PSU?) to be able to add RAM/SSD/2nd GPU down the line.
Explanations for variations if needed:
PSU: The NewEgg comments on the OCZ are pretty consistent in the cords to the motherboard (24 and 8 pin I think) being a little short for cases with a bottom mounted PSU. Alecthar turned me on to the longer corded Corsairs back on page 71.
Video Card: Without a PSU combo, I decided to go with the Sapphire since it's $10 cheaper ($20 w/ MIR), appears slightly smaller, and has somewhat more positive (albeit fewer) reviews on NewEgg. Mistake?
Optical Drive: This one has Lightscribe, and I've had good Samsung experiences in the past.
Case: The 'rational' explanation is that this will be going on the floor and it has washable dust filters on the intake fans. The real explanation is that I am weak and it is beautiful.
Anything I'm missing (or just plain wrong about in my variations)? In particular, is 650W a good number to balance existing needs versus likely future upgrades? The Corsair 400W is ridiculously cheap ($35 after a $15 MIR) and awfully tempting.
So Hard OCP has some Alien vs. Predator benchmarks up. That's interesting because that game uses DX11 and in particular tessellation to improve the Xenomorph models.
It seems that the 5770 can enable tessellation and still run t 1920x1200 and maybe could run at 1080p with some anti-aliasing.
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The board color itself doesn't bother me so much being blue, it's all the slots and heatsinks and extra plastic bits all over being blue that's bugging me.
The MSI Eclipse Plus and the Gigabyte X58 UD7 are big offenders.
Also, can anyone tell me the difference between the
Those first two look like they're the exact same motherboard through and through and the only difference is you're paying extra for that picture with the IO plate being more visible in the picture.
As for the classified, looks like it's got some neat little features if you want triple SLI and physX stuff.
And then they mention "LOTS MORE GOLD" and it's probably functionally no different than monster cables vs normal cables.
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Does anyone know if you can run a dual-monitor setup in SLI yet? When I built my last rig I had Two GTX 260's for SLI, but it would only run one monitor when I had it in SLI mode, so I sold one of them.
He's right that gold is more conductive. But for a normal person not producing audio for a movie or cd or something that difference is like saying "the water from this lake is wetter than the water from that lake."
Edit: In terms of computer parts, even if you OC, you probably still won't notice a difference as long as you're not doing quantum computing or something.
Protip: If you put enough soap into a small pool where a duck is swimming they will suddenly sink.
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Dilemma. My 5770 showed up today. But the 6-pin on adapter on my ps does not match the receptacle.
My card's jack is arranged
SBB
BBS
s being a square and b being a beveled Jack
while the connecter from my ps is
SSB
BBS
can I just pull the pins out of the adapter and plug them straight in? My power supply has ground (black) on all 3 top pins and the bottom 3 are all yellow. Someone with a 5770 tell me if that is how your wires are?
Or am I screwed in need of a new ps?
Does anyone know if you can run a dual-monitor setup in SLI yet? When I built my last rig I had Two GTX 260's for SLI, but it would only run one monitor when I had it in SLI mode, so I sold one of them.
I have ~$100 store credit at ncix.com and I need your guys' help deciding what to buy. I am leaning towards either some nice speakers or perhaps a small (30gb) Solid State drive
Yes. That is it exactly. And yet the only 6-pin on it is the connector I just described. I now feel fairly confident that it's just a fucked up connector though. So I guess I'll just connect the pins straight. Wish me luck.
Nope. Just a regular 6-pin. Though my psu may be a little underpowered.. I've a 430, and it says 450 recommended. We'll see how it goes. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, obviously it works, as I'm not on my iphone anymore, and I'm typing letters and they are showing up on the screen
Downloading drivers now. Should've grabbed em while I was waiting for the UPS guy.
Goal is to (1) have a big upgrade from my current 4 year old system to be able to play some current gen games -- Borderlands, DA:O, ME2 -- at max settings, and (2) be somewhat future proof (esp. in the PSU?) to be able to add RAM/SSD/2nd GPU down the line.
Explanations for variations if needed:
PSU: The NewEgg comments on the OCZ are pretty consistent in the cords to the motherboard (24 and 8 pin I think) being a little short for cases with a bottom mounted PSU. Alecthar turned me on to the longer corded Corsairs back on page 71.
Video Card: Without a PSU combo, I decided to go with the Sapphire since it's $10 cheaper ($20 w/ MIR), appears slightly smaller, and has somewhat more positive (albeit fewer) reviews on NewEgg. Mistake?
Optical Drive: This one has Lightscribe, and I've had good Samsung experiences in the past.
Case: The 'rational' explanation is that this will be going on the floor and it has washable dust filters on the intake fans. The real explanation is that I am weak and it is beautiful.
Anything I'm missing (or just plain wrong about in my variations)? In particular, is 650W a good number to balance existing needs versus likely future upgrades? The Corsair 400W is ridiculously cheap ($35 after a $15 MIR) and awfully tempting.
Thanks in advance.
Anyone, please? I've been psyching myself up for a month to build my own and this 11th hour change away from the i3-530 is, frankly, scary.
The goal again is to (1) have a big upgrade from my current 4 year old system to be able to play some current gen games -- Borderlands, DA:O, ME2 -- at max settings, and (2) be somewhat future proof to be able to add more/different stuff down the line as needed. Machine will also be used for surfing and lowkey home office stuff if that matters.
Goal is to (1) have a big upgrade from my current 4 year old system to be able to play some current gen games -- Borderlands, DA:O, ME2 -- at max settings, and (2) be somewhat future proof (esp. in the PSU?) to be able to add RAM/SSD/2nd GPU down the line.
Explanations for variations if needed:
PSU: The NewEgg comments on the OCZ are pretty consistent in the cords to the motherboard (24 and 8 pin I think) being a little short for cases with a bottom mounted PSU. Alecthar turned me on to the longer corded Corsairs back on page 71.
Video Card: Without a PSU combo, I decided to go with the Sapphire since it's $10 cheaper ($20 w/ MIR), appears slightly smaller, and has somewhat more positive (albeit fewer) reviews on NewEgg. Mistake?
Optical Drive: This one has Lightscribe, and I've had good Samsung experiences in the past.
Case: The 'rational' explanation is that this will be going on the floor and it has washable dust filters on the intake fans. The real explanation is that I am weak and it is beautiful.
Anything I'm missing (or just plain wrong about in my variations)? In particular, is 650W a good number to balance existing needs versus likely future upgrades? The Corsair 400W is ridiculously cheap ($35 after a $15 MIR) and awfully tempting.
Thanks in advance.
Anyone, please? I've been psyching myself up for a month to build my own and this 11th hour change away from the i3-530 is, frankly, scary.
The goal again is to (1) have a big upgrade from my current 4 year old system to be able to play some current gen games -- Borderlands, DA:O, ME2 -- at max settings, and (2) be somewhat future proof to be able to add more/different stuff down the line as needed. Machine will also be used for surfing and lowkey home office stuff if that matters.
Well if I had to guess the Phenom II X4 would be more powerful for multi-threaded aps while the i3 would be a bit faster for most games these days.
Neither would be a bad choice.
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was looking at an 8 core Mac Pro (being subliminally enticed by their advertising) until I woke up and took a look at a comparable Dell Precision machine. But then I found out about Newegg (thanks largely to this thread) and pieced together a 12 core Opteron 2435 machine for a couple thousand cheaper than the Mac Pro.
Thing is, I'm not really seeing any benchmarks that pit the Opteron 2435 against a quad core Xeon X5550 or the like.
So, before I post up specs here, does anyone here have any experience using these processors?
By and large, it's for CGI stuff and some gaming with rendering going on in the background while I kill people online. I also just picked up a copy of Cakewalk's Sonar 8 to dabble in songwriting, and seeing as how it's highly recommended for use on 64 bit windows I figured I can't go wrong with it on such a machine.
I'm guessing that not a lot of people have experience with those server CPUs. My impression is that they don't really deliver on the bang for the buck front unless you need some features that are only on those kinds of motherboards or your application is sensitive to cache sizes or whatever.
Maybe someone works with that kind of stuff at work and can let you know.
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I'm guessing that not a lot of people have experience with those server CPUs. My impression is that they don't really deliver on the bang for the buck front unless you need some features that are only on those kinds of motherboards or your application is sensitive to cache sizes or whatever.
Maybe someone works with that kind of stuff at work and can let you know.
The Xeon is what Apple uses in it's Mac Pro. It's a server CPU, true, but they use it to great effect (or hype...). It's also the processor used in Dell's Precision line (for the most part). Basically, I'd like to do several cpu intensive things at once. Rendering an image, playing a game, and... maybe encoding video all at once with little, if any, impact to each task.
As expected, it's hot, loud and expensive, while overall performance is a bit better than the 5800 series (noteable exception: Battlefield: Bad Company 2). Won't be available until 12th April.
As expected, it's hot, loud and expensive, while overall performance is a bit better than the 5800 series (noteable exception: Battlefield: Bad Company 2). Won't be available until 12th April.
nice... Anandtech's site is serving up that fake AV virus/trojan. Just got infected, but thankfully I know how to get rid of it quickly.
edit: something told me to check out that article with Firefox/NoScript...
As expected, it's hot, loud and expensive, while overall performance is a bit better than the 5800 series (noteable exception: Battlefield: Bad Company 2). Won't be available until 12th April.
nice... Anandtech's site is serving up that fake AV virus/trojan. Just got infected, but thankfully I know how to get rid of it quickly.
edit: something told me to check out that article with Firefox/NoScript...
its because of their ads
there are ad companies that are infected
thats why i surf with adblock and greasemonkey now
As expected, it's hot, loud and expensive, while overall performance is a bit better than the 5800 series (noteable exception: Battlefield: Bad Company 2). Won't be available until 12th April.
nice... Anandtech's site is serving up that fake AV virus/trojan. Just got infected, but thankfully I know how to get rid of it quickly.
edit: something told me to check out that article with Firefox/NoScript...
its because of their ads
there are ad companies that are infected
thats why i surf with adblock and greasemonkey now
Firefox with NoScript has been doing me well on questionable sites. Just didn't think to use it with Anandtech.
So I want the 5970, because despite the fact that top-of-the-line is usually overpriced, I've never seen the performance curve bend this hard.
But. I have the antec sonata 3, and it won't goddamn fit. I love this case and it cost me a fair chunk of cash.
Now, the impending 470 and 480 look like they'll be the same length as my current 8800gtx - that is, 10.5" - so they'll fit in the case fine. Thing is, I hear they're hot, noisy, and actually not that much better but much higher priced.
Basically, I'm all of a dither. Is it worth being an early adopter? As I said, my usual attitude is no, no it's not, but I'd like to hear some views here. Oh, also, I have a Tagan TG600-U33, and would be looking to upgrade my GPU, CPU, Mobo and RAM. So maybe I don't even have enough juice, you tell me.
So I want the 5970, because despite the fact that top-of-the-line is usually overpriced, I've never seen the performance curve bend this hard.
But. I have the antec sonata 3, and it won't goddamn fit. I love this case and it cost me a fair chunk of cash.
Now, the impending 470 and 480 look like they'll be the same length as my current 8800gtx - that is, 10.5" - so they'll fit in the case fine. Thing is, I hear they're hot, noisy, and actually not that much better but much higher priced.
Basically, I'm all of a dither. Is it worth being an early adopter? As I said, my usual attitude is no, no it's not, but I'd like to hear some views here. Oh, also, I have a Tagan TG600-U33, and would be looking to upgrade my GPU, CPU, Mobo and RAM. So maybe I don't even have enough juice, you tell me.
typically, early adopters get reamed like an Oz inmate.
I usually stay a generation or two behind the curve so I get good stuff for cheap, but these 6 core Opterons might make me break that rule.
As expected, it's hot, loud and expensive, while overall performance is a bit better than the 5800 series (noteable exception: Battlefield: Bad Company 2). Won't be available until 12th April.
nice... Anandtech's site is serving up that fake AV virus/trojan. Just got infected, but thankfully I know how to get rid of it quickly.
edit: something told me to check out that article with Firefox/NoScript...
Sorry about that, I never noticed anything strange on Safari/OS X. I never thought Anandtech would have that kind of ads...
Posts
Something like:
(Original postd)
Steam profile.
Getting started with BATTLETECH: Part 1 / Part 2
Think I'll end up using EVGA instead of Gigabyte simply because I'm tired of blue.
Also, work paying for new at-home and at-office rigs. *evil*
PSN: Beltaine-77 | Steam: beltane77 | Battle.net BadHaggis#1433
It seems that the 5770 can enable tessellation and still run t 1920x1200 and maybe could run at 1080p with some anti-aliasing.
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Anything besides that green color, whenever I see that forest green on boards I just :?
I like that black or the dark blue color I'm starting to see a lot of.
The MSI Eclipse Plus and the Gigabyte X58 UD7 are big offenders.
Also, can anyone tell me the difference between the
EVGA 132-BL-E758-TR
and
EVGA 132-BL-E758-A1
I can't spot any, and the A1 is $30 more.
Also, is the EVGA 141-BL-E760-A1 "Classified" version worth the extra $100?
PSN: Beltaine-77 | Steam: beltane77 | Battle.net BadHaggis#1433
As for the classified, looks like it's got some neat little features if you want triple SLI and physX stuff.
And then they mention "LOTS MORE GOLD" and it's probably functionally no different than monster cables vs normal cables.
Does anyone know if you can run a dual-monitor setup in SLI yet? When I built my last rig I had Two GTX 260's for SLI, but it would only run one monitor when I had it in SLI mode, so I sold one of them.
EDIT: Google FTW: http://www.slizone.com/object/sli_multi_monitor.html
I definitely will be running SLI, so that changes things. Need something that will run 16x on both slots.
Looks like Gigabyte is the only manuf. with USB 3.0 and SATA 6.0 on an X58 board... hmmmm....
PSN: Beltaine-77 | Steam: beltane77 | Battle.net BadHaggis#1433
Edit: In terms of computer parts, even if you OC, you probably still won't notice a difference as long as you're not doing quantum computing or something.
Protip: If you put enough soap into a small pool where a duck is swimming they will suddenly sink.
My card's jack is arranged
SBB
BBS
s being a square and b being a beveled Jack
while the connecter from my ps is
SSB
BBS
can I just pull the pins out of the adapter and plug them straight in? My power supply has ground (black) on all 3 top pins and the bottom 3 are all yellow. Someone with a 5770 tell me if that is how your wires are?
Or am I screwed in need of a new ps?
were you connecting one monitor per card, or both monitors to card 1? because from I've seen the lower card usually has it's outputs disabled.
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I have ~$100 store credit at ncix.com and I need your guys' help deciding what to buy. I am leaning towards either some nice speakers or perhaps a small (30gb) Solid State drive
If this is it then it should have a PCI-E connector so you shouldn't have to be fucking around with it.
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Are you sure it's not maybe a 6+2 pin connector on that video card?
Downloading drivers now. Should've grabbed em while I was waiting for the UPS guy.
Can anyone explain what this is?
Nothing at all to do with PC construction I wouldn't imagine.
Basically the GPU adds geometry (polygons) on the fly using some info encoded into a texture. I think that's basically it.
That's the mathematical definition but I'm not sure of the relationship to the graphics technique.
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Anyone, please? I've been psyching myself up for a month to build my own and this 11th hour change away from the i3-530 is, frankly, scary.
The goal again is to (1) have a big upgrade from my current 4 year old system to be able to play some current gen games -- Borderlands, DA:O, ME2 -- at max settings, and (2) be somewhat future proof to be able to add more/different stuff down the line as needed. Machine will also be used for surfing and lowkey home office stuff if that matters.
Steam profile.
Getting started with BATTLETECH: Part 1 / Part 2
Or they have too much blue crap in them. :P
PSN: Beltaine-77 | Steam: beltane77 | Battle.net BadHaggis#1433
If I had to guess, I would say it's something to do with generating a texture or model without having to load the whole thing into memory.
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
Well if I had to guess the Phenom II X4 would be more powerful for multi-threaded aps while the i3 would be a bit faster for most games these days.
Neither would be a bad choice.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
Thing is, I'm not really seeing any benchmarks that pit the Opteron 2435 against a quad core Xeon X5550 or the like.
So, before I post up specs here, does anyone here have any experience using these processors?
By and large, it's for CGI stuff and some gaming with rendering going on in the background while I kill people online. I also just picked up a copy of Cakewalk's Sonar 8 to dabble in songwriting, and seeing as how it's highly recommended for use on 64 bit windows I figured I can't go wrong with it on such a machine.
Maybe someone works with that kind of stuff at work and can let you know.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
The Xeon is what Apple uses in it's Mac Pro. It's a server CPU, true, but they use it to great effect (or hype...). It's also the processor used in Dell's Precision line (for the most part). Basically, I'd like to do several cpu intensive things at once. Rendering an image, playing a game, and... maybe encoding video all at once with little, if any, impact to each task.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102884
whats worse is that it wont go lower for awhile and they might even cgo up a bit due to low availability
and supplies are wonky cuz of the earthquake which is also why the fermi cards are late by a week
As expected, it's hot, loud and expensive, while overall performance is a bit better than the 5800 series (noteable exception: Battlefield: Bad Company 2). Won't be available until 12th April.
nice... Anandtech's site is serving up that fake AV virus/trojan. Just got infected, but thankfully I know how to get rid of it quickly.
edit: something told me to check out that article with Firefox/NoScript...
its because of their ads
there are ad companies that are infected
thats why i surf with adblock and greasemonkey now
Firefox with NoScript has been doing me well on questionable sites. Just didn't think to use it with Anandtech.
So I want the 5970, because despite the fact that top-of-the-line is usually overpriced, I've never seen the performance curve bend this hard.
But. I have the antec sonata 3, and it won't goddamn fit. I love this case and it cost me a fair chunk of cash.
Now, the impending 470 and 480 look like they'll be the same length as my current 8800gtx - that is, 10.5" - so they'll fit in the case fine. Thing is, I hear they're hot, noisy, and actually not that much better but much higher priced.
Basically, I'm all of a dither. Is it worth being an early adopter? As I said, my usual attitude is no, no it's not, but I'd like to hear some views here. Oh, also, I have a Tagan TG600-U33, and would be looking to upgrade my GPU, CPU, Mobo and RAM. So maybe I don't even have enough juice, you tell me.
typically, early adopters get reamed like an Oz inmate.
I usually stay a generation or two behind the curve so I get good stuff for cheap, but these 6 core Opterons might make me break that rule.
Sorry about that, I never noticed anything strange on Safari/OS X. I never thought Anandtech would have that kind of ads...