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NPD - And the holiday sales winner is....

galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
The Xbox 360.

From gameindustry.biz:

NPD's got some preliminary numbers on how the consoles sold over the holidays (11/1 - 12/24) in the USA. The 360 had the most units sold at 2 million. The Wii was not that far behind, selling 1.8 million in the same period, despite launchng 19 days into the recording period. They both dominated the PS3, which, on account of stock problems, sold 750k.

Granted it wasn't a completely level playing field, but it's interesting to see the actual nex-gen numbers as a gauge. Full report with other juicy details to come later in the month.

Also note, they might've been outsold by older consoles as there's no info on, say, the DS/PSP/PS2.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I didn't even know 750k PS3s existed, let alone sold. That is quite interesting.

    I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm pretty sure that's just their November numbers added to their December predictions. Real December numbers should be out within a week.

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  • DeadlySherpaDeadlySherpa Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    so the wii sold 1.8 million in 5 weeks vs. 8 weeks the xbox 360 sold in 8?

    interesting.

    I also hear the PS2 with the new price point sold massive amounts of consoles

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    On the PS3 numbers, are those actual units sold and in customer hands, or are they units shipped, like Sony tends to release?

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  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    On the PS3 numbers, are those actual units sold and in customer hands, or are they units shipped, like Sony tends to release?

    According to the article and the NPD, that's units sold, not units shipped.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I didn't even know 750k PS3s existed, let alone sold. That is quite interesting.

    I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold

    www.nexgenwars.com

    Just under 10 million.

    The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rook wrote:
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I didn't even know 750k PS3s existed, let alone sold. That is quite interesting.

    I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold

    www.nexgenwars.com

    Just under 10 million.

    The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.
    I thought we decided that nexgenwars was total bullshit. www.vgcharts.org is the best one of those sites we've got.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rook wrote:
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I didn't even know 750k PS3s existed, let alone sold. That is quite interesting.

    I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold

    www.nexgenwars.com

    Just under 10 million.

    The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.

    nexgenwars is a bad bad bad bad site. And it has been a bad site since it launched a few months back.

    There are no references, at all, anywhere on that site. As far as I know they just make up shit and put it up there. I don't get why people link to it.

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  • hambonehambone Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    galenblade wrote:
    Also note, they might've been outsold by older consoles as there's no info on, say, the DS/PSP/PS2.

    I'm almost positive the PS2 outsold everyone by a significant margin this season, but I have no links to back that up.

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  • DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    SO HAY I HEAR THOSE ARE PREDICTIONS.....

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    hambone wrote:
    galenblade wrote:
    Also note, they might've been outsold by older consoles as there's no info on, say, the DS/PSP/PS2.

    I'm almost positive the PS2 outsold everyone by a significant margin this season, but I have no links to back that up.
    No, DS did. In November DS sold 918k, and PS2 came in second with 664k.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rook wrote:
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I didn't even know 750k PS3s existed, let alone sold. That is quite interesting.

    I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold

    www.nexgenwars.com

    Just under 10 million.

    The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.

    Now, I don't think high demand can ever be a bad thing, personally. Then again, I'm not some fancy ass business major, but I've never viewed high demand as a bad thing. And especially in Nintendo's case, I don't think there was this much demand for the GC.

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    What about software sales?

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    FreddyD wrote:
    What about software sales?
    Gears - lots
    Zelda - lots
    Resistance - not lots

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  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    FreddyD wrote:
    What about software sales?

    Not included in this report, should know more about software in a week or two.

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  • Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Wow. I didnt expect Nintendogs to still be in the top 5 selling games.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    NPD does not include Walmart, by the way. At least last I knew it didn't.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    bruin wrote:
    FreddyD wrote:
    What about software sales?
    Gears - lots
    Zelda - lots
    Resistance - not lots

    hahaha, just the way you put that made me laugh out loud. guys around the office all looked at me :|

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    Wow. I didnt expect Nintendogs to still be in the top 5 selling games.
    They released another iteration recently. That might have something to do with it.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    NPD does not include Walmart, by the way. At least last I knew it didn't.
    They collect as much data as they can, then estimate the rest. It's not perfect, but for sales (Sony and Microsoft use "shipped" in their press releases most of the time), it's the best we have.

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  • El VientoEl Viento Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hardtarget wrote:
    Rook wrote:
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I didn't even know 750k PS3s existed, let alone sold. That is quite interesting.

    I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold

    www.nexgenwars.com

    Just under 10 million.

    The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.

    nexgenwars is a bad bad bad bad site. And it has been a bad site since it launched a few months back.

    There are no references, at all, anywhere on that site. As far as I know they just make up shit and put it up there. I don't get why people link to it.

    It's a script that updates the totals by predetermined amounts every time it refreshes, theres no actual 'sales data' involved.

    http://www.vgcharts.org/ is probably a safer bet.

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  • SpaceDrakeSpaceDrake Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Most of these numbers jive with what I've seen elsewhere. Interesting note, though, the Wii is already the next-gen console with the most market penetration in Japan and it's much easier to get data on that.

    And yes, please use vgcharts.org from now on. Good site, better than NextGenWars, although I'm not quite certain where he's pulling his "other" data from vis-a-vis his Console War gauges. He gets his NA data from NPD.

    EDIT:
    bruin wrote:
    NPD does not include Walmart, by the way. At least last I knew it didn't.
    They collect as much data as they can, then estimate the rest. It's not perfect, but for sales (Sony and Microsoft use "shipped" in their press releases most of the time), it's the best we have.

    Yes, the state of this kind of data in the United States is lamentable. There are several companies who devote themselves exclusively to gathering this data in Japan, and they do so weekly. It's really easy to get a feel for how a game or system is doing in Japan.

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  • Animal SpiritsAnimal Spirits Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Wow. I didnt expect Nintendogs to still be in the top 5 selling games.
    They released another iteration recently. That might have something to do with it.
    They have to sell them first to clear up the queue for other games, so it inflates the numbers.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Meissnerd wrote:
    Rook wrote:
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I didn't even know 750k PS3s existed, let alone sold. That is quite interesting.

    I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold

    www.nexgenwars.com

    Just under 10 million.

    The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.

    Now, I don't think high demand can ever be a bad thing, personally. Then again, I'm not some fancy ass business major, but I've never viewed high demand as a bad thing. And especially in Nintendo's case, I don't think there was this much demand for the GC.

    What I meant was, that the numbers of the Wii sales are very much limited to manufacturing whereas the PS3 (at least anecdotally) seems to be more in line with it's supply.

    The problem with this is that it's more likely that wanabe Wii consumers might end up with a 360 or PSTwo than wanabe PS3 owners.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Rook wrote:
    Meissnerd wrote:
    Rook wrote:
    Hardtarget wrote:
    I didn't even know 750k PS3s existed, let alone sold. That is quite interesting.

    I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold

    www.nexgenwars.com

    Just under 10 million.

    The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.

    Now, I don't think high demand can ever be a bad thing, personally. Then again, I'm not some fancy ass business major, but I've never viewed high demand as a bad thing. And especially in Nintendo's case, I don't think there was this much demand for the GC.

    What I meant was, that the numbers of the Wii sales are very much limited to manufacturing whereas the PS3 (at least anecdotally) seems to be more in line with it's supply.

    The problem with this is that it's more likely that wanabe Wii consumers might end up with a 360 or PSTwo than wanabe PS3 owners.

    I think some of my fanboy genes kicked in there. But that's interesting, I thought Wii would be worse off.

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  • Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    To those that are interested here is the actual graph for November.

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  • SpaceDrakeSpaceDrake Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    To those that are interested here is the actual graph for November.

    Wiinov2006sales.jpg

    Right, we're discussing possible December numbers though. :P

    Also, where's the PSP on that list? Sure it sold at least 50,000 in the U.S., it's strongest market... :shock:

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Didn't we just have this thread? with the exact same article linked? But the OP said the Wii won? And people argued that the 360 won?

    D:

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Wow, I had no idea the GBA was still doing so strong...

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Microsoft did pretty well picking up sales from people who didn't want to jump through hoops for a Wii (like myself).

    Zelda has to have sold a million already, since wasn't the system/zelda ration pretty damn high in November alone?

    Side note, what was the expectations of the 360 selling in its life cycle? 20-25 million? I would think it's doing better than expected in that regard.

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  • kriegskriegs Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I found this little bit interesting:

    For the month of November in America http://www.vgcharts.org/

    1) X360 Gears of War -1,126,500
    2) PS2 Final Fantasy XII -1,026,000

    GoW pulls out 100k more units than FFXII? Well... to be fair, that number doesn't actually count October 31st, which probably sold a shit-ton. But still interesting considering their releases were only a week apart.

    *Edit* I tried finding the numbers for FFXII for just the 31st, but nothing came up. Perhaps those numbers ARE included in the Novembers sales there?

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    SpaceDrake wrote:
    To those that are interested here is the actual graph for November.

    Wiinov2006sales.jpg

    Right, we're discussing possible December numbers though. :P

    Also, where's the PSP on that list? Sure it sold at least 50,000 in the U.S., it's strongest market... :shock:

    Sony NEVER releases the PSP sale numbers. Only the shipped numbers when they do decide to release numbers

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  • Shooter McgavinShooter Mcgavin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
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  • SandersSanders Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    To those that are interested here is the actual graph for November.

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    so if those predictions are true, 550,000 ps3s were sold in december?

    That sounds.... quite high.

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  • StriderEdgeStriderEdge Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
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    But is this chart misleading me? I need to know!

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  • SpaceDrakeSpaceDrake Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    kriegs wrote:
    I found this little bit interesting:

    For the month of November in America http://www.vgcharts.org/

    1) X360 Gears of War -1,126,500
    2) PS2 Final Fantasy XII -1,026,000

    GoW pulls out 100k more units than FFXII? Well... to be fair, that number doesn't actually count October 31st, which probably sold a shit-ton. But still interesting considering their releases were only a week apart.

    *Edit* I tried finding the numbers for FFXII for just the 31st, but nothing came up. Perhaps those numbers ARE included in the Novembers sales there?

    It does. Since VIII, FF games have lost a lot of market power here in the States. December's full chart will tell the real tale of how XII did in the States.

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  • SpaceDrakeSpaceDrake Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sanders wrote:
    To those that are interested here is the actual graph for November.

    Wiinov2006sales.jpg

    so if those predictions are true, 550,000 ps3s were sold in december?

    That sounds.... quite high.

    Uh, that's a November chart. Where are you pulling December data from?

    Oh, wait, I see, yay math. Nah, that sounds about right. The Wii's sold easily over a million so I'd be surprised if 500k PS3s didn't ship due to EBAY FURY and whatnot.

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  • Katchem_ashKatchem_ash __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    Don't blame me if the chart is in your eyes faulty. I just put it up for reference so people know what the companies are positioned for christmas. I am still suprised though that PS2 kicks the newer gen asses.

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  • HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Don't blame me if the chart is in your eyes faulty. I just put it up for reference so people know what the companies are positioned for christmas. I am still suprised though that PS2 kicks the newer gen asses.
    To be fair, it's been the established market leader since it's inception, over six years ago.

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