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NPD's got some preliminary numbers on how the consoles sold over the holidays (11/1 - 12/24) in the USA. The 360 had the most units sold at 2 million. The Wii was not that far behind, selling 1.8 million in the same period, despite launchng 19 days into the recording period. They both dominated the PS3, which, on account of stock problems, sold 750k.
Granted it wasn't a completely level playing field, but it's interesting to see the actual nex-gen numbers as a gauge. Full report with other juicy details to come later in the month.
Also note, they might've been outsold by older consoles as there's no info on, say, the DS/PSP/PS2.
The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.
nexgenwars is a bad bad bad bad site. And it has been a bad site since it launched a few months back.
There are no references, at all, anywhere on that site. As far as I know they just make up shit and put it up there. I don't get why people link to it.
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The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.
Now, I don't think high demand can ever be a bad thing, personally. Then again, I'm not some fancy ass business major, but I've never viewed high demand as a bad thing. And especially in Nintendo's case, I don't think there was this much demand for the GC.
NPD does not include Walmart, by the way. At least last I knew it didn't.
They collect as much data as they can, then estimate the rest. It's not perfect, but for sales (Sony and Microsoft use "shipped" in their press releases most of the time), it's the best we have.
The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.
nexgenwars is a bad bad bad bad site. And it has been a bad site since it launched a few months back.
There are no references, at all, anywhere on that site. As far as I know they just make up shit and put it up there. I don't get why people link to it.
It's a script that updates the totals by predetermined amounts every time it refreshes, theres no actual 'sales data' involved.
Most of these numbers jive with what I've seen elsewhere. Interesting note, though, the Wii is already the next-gen console with the most market penetration in Japan and it's much easier to get data on that.
And yes, please use vgcharts.org from now on. Good site, better than NextGenWars, although I'm not quite certain where he's pulling his "other" data from vis-a-vis his Console War gauges. He gets his NA data from NPD.
NPD does not include Walmart, by the way. At least last I knew it didn't.
They collect as much data as they can, then estimate the rest. It's not perfect, but for sales (Sony and Microsoft use "shipped" in their press releases most of the time), it's the best we have.
Yes, the state of this kind of data in the United States is lamentable. There are several companies who devote themselves exclusively to gathering this data in Japan, and they do so weekly. It's really easy to get a feel for how a game or system is doing in Japan.
The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.
Now, I don't think high demand can ever be a bad thing, personally. Then again, I'm not some fancy ass business major, but I've never viewed high demand as a bad thing. And especially in Nintendo's case, I don't think there was this much demand for the GC.
What I meant was, that the numbers of the Wii sales are very much limited to manufacturing whereas the PS3 (at least anecdotally) seems to be more in line with it's supply.
The problem with this is that it's more likely that wanabe Wii consumers might end up with a 360 or PSTwo than wanabe PS3 owners.
The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.
Now, I don't think high demand can ever be a bad thing, personally. Then again, I'm not some fancy ass business major, but I've never viewed high demand as a bad thing. And especially in Nintendo's case, I don't think there was this much demand for the GC.
What I meant was, that the numbers of the Wii sales are very much limited to manufacturing whereas the PS3 (at least anecdotally) seems to be more in line with it's supply.
The problem with this is that it's more likely that wanabe Wii consumers might end up with a 360 or PSTwo than wanabe PS3 owners.
I think some of my fanboy genes kicked in there. But that's interesting, I thought Wii would be worse off.
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Microsoft did pretty well picking up sales from people who didn't want to jump through hoops for a Wii (like myself).
Zelda has to have sold a million already, since wasn't the system/zelda ration pretty damn high in November alone?
Side note, what was the expectations of the 360 selling in its life cycle? 20-25 million? I would think it's doing better than expected in that regard.
1) X360 Gears of War -1,126,500
2) PS2 Final Fantasy XII -1,026,000
GoW pulls out 100k more units than FFXII? Well... to be fair, that number doesn't actually count October 31st, which probably sold a shit-ton. But still interesting considering their releases were only a week apart.
*Edit* I tried finding the numbers for FFXII for just the 31st, but nothing came up. Perhaps those numbers ARE included in the Novembers sales there?
1) X360 Gears of War -1,126,500
2) PS2 Final Fantasy XII -1,026,000
GoW pulls out 100k more units than FFXII? Well... to be fair, that number doesn't actually count October 31st, which probably sold a shit-ton. But still interesting considering their releases were only a week apart.
*Edit* I tried finding the numbers for FFXII for just the 31st, but nothing came up. Perhaps those numbers ARE included in the Novembers sales there?
It does. Since VIII, FF games have lost a lot of market power here in the States. December's full chart will tell the real tale of how XII did in the States.
To those that are interested here is the actual graph for November.
so if those predictions are true, 550,000 ps3s were sold in december?
That sounds.... quite high.
Uh, that's a November chart. Where are you pulling December data from?
Oh, wait, I see, yay math. Nah, that sounds about right. The Wii's sold easily over a million so I'd be surprised if 500k PS3s didn't ship due to EBAY FURY and whatnot.
Don't blame me if the chart is in your eyes faulty. I just put it up for reference so people know what the companies are positioned for christmas. I am still suprised though that PS2 kicks the newer gen asses.
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Don't blame me if the chart is in your eyes faulty. I just put it up for reference so people know what the companies are positioned for christmas. I am still suprised though that PS2 kicks the newer gen asses.
To be fair, it's been the established market leader since it's inception, over six years ago.
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I wonder how many 360s total have now been sold
interesting.
I also hear the PS2 with the new price point sold massive amounts of consoles
According to the article and the NPD, that's units sold, not units shipped.
www.nexgenwars.com
Just under 10 million.
The Wii seems to be suffering more from production delays and high demand than either of the other consoles though.
nexgenwars is a bad bad bad bad site. And it has been a bad site since it launched a few months back.
There are no references, at all, anywhere on that site. As far as I know they just make up shit and put it up there. I don't get why people link to it.
I'm almost positive the PS2 outsold everyone by a significant margin this season, but I have no links to back that up.
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Now, I don't think high demand can ever be a bad thing, personally. Then again, I'm not some fancy ass business major, but I've never viewed high demand as a bad thing. And especially in Nintendo's case, I don't think there was this much demand for the GC.
Zelda - lots
Resistance - not lots
Not included in this report, should know more about software in a week or two.
hahaha, just the way you put that made me laugh out loud. guys around the office all looked at me
It's a script that updates the totals by predetermined amounts every time it refreshes, theres no actual 'sales data' involved.
http://www.vgcharts.org/ is probably a safer bet.
And yes, please use vgcharts.org from now on. Good site, better than NextGenWars, although I'm not quite certain where he's pulling his "other" data from vis-a-vis his Console War gauges. He gets his NA data from NPD.
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Yes, the state of this kind of data in the United States is lamentable. There are several companies who devote themselves exclusively to gathering this data in Japan, and they do so weekly. It's really easy to get a feel for how a game or system is doing in Japan.
What I meant was, that the numbers of the Wii sales are very much limited to manufacturing whereas the PS3 (at least anecdotally) seems to be more in line with it's supply.
The problem with this is that it's more likely that wanabe Wii consumers might end up with a 360 or PSTwo than wanabe PS3 owners.
I think some of my fanboy genes kicked in there. But that's interesting, I thought Wii would be worse off.
Right, we're discussing possible December numbers though. :P
Also, where's the PSP on that list? Sure it sold at least 50,000 in the U.S., it's strongest market... :shock:
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Zelda has to have sold a million already, since wasn't the system/zelda ration pretty damn high in November alone?
Side note, what was the expectations of the 360 selling in its life cycle? 20-25 million? I would think it's doing better than expected in that regard.
For the month of November in America http://www.vgcharts.org/
1) X360 Gears of War -1,126,500
2) PS2 Final Fantasy XII -1,026,000
GoW pulls out 100k more units than FFXII? Well... to be fair, that number doesn't actually count October 31st, which probably sold a shit-ton. But still interesting considering their releases were only a week apart.
*Edit* I tried finding the numbers for FFXII for just the 31st, but nothing came up. Perhaps those numbers ARE included in the Novembers sales there?
Sony NEVER releases the PSP sale numbers. Only the shipped numbers when they do decide to release numbers
so if those predictions are true, 550,000 ps3s were sold in december?
That sounds.... quite high.
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But is this chart misleading me? I need to know!
It does. Since VIII, FF games have lost a lot of market power here in the States. December's full chart will tell the real tale of how XII did in the States.
Uh, that's a November chart. Where are you pulling December data from?
Oh, wait, I see, yay math. Nah, that sounds about right. The Wii's sold easily over a million so I'd be surprised if 500k PS3s didn't ship due to EBAY FURY and whatnot.