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edited March 2010
And I went full on corruption, which makes me sad cause
Cyrus was my favorite. I would have joined him if I actually had had that option...
Edit: 40k really takes a "once you go down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" approach to Chaos, but I'd like to see an example of someone who turned traitor actually turn BACK to the Emperor, or someone who was born into Chaos become a follower of the Emperor.
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Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. - Lincoln
And I went full on corruption, which makes me sad cause
Cyrus was my favorite. I would have joined him if I actually had had that option...
Edit: 40k really takes a "once you go down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" approach to Chaos, but I'd like to see an example of someone who turned traitor actually turn BACK to the Emperor, or someone who was born into Chaos become a follower of the Emperor.
Look, no. If you're thinking like this you're already making a mistake: Taking it too seriously. Warhammer 40k is about extremes, not serious consideration.
Besides, redeemed heretics? That's just asking for broody anti-hero Mary Sues.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
There are space marines who left the emperor but didn't join chaos though. So there are inbetween areas. Just really doesn't make for interesting lore.
People like hearing about uncorruptable gray knights kicking ass and taking names.
There are space marines who left the emperor but didn't join chaos though. So there are inbetween areas. Just really doesn't make for interesting lore.
People like hearing about uncorruptable gray knights kicking ass and taking names.
Anyone looking for awesome "inbetween areas" lore set in the land of 40k should pick up a Ciaphas Cain novel and give it a read.
There are space marines who left the emperor but didn't join chaos though. So there are inbetween areas. Just really doesn't make for interesting lore.
People like hearing about uncorruptable gray knights kicking ass and taking names.
Anyone looking for awesome "inbetween areas" lore set in the land of 40k should pick up a Ciaphas Cain novel and give it a read.
It's true though Ciaphas isn't really inbetween. He just enjoys being alive and doesn't waste time thinking the emperor is gonna save his ass.
Ciaphas Cain still is the most awesome commissar ever though.
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I never asked for this!
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So, I found a pretty egregious error with the Great Unclean One in campaign...
His AOE vomit attack was set to heal him 2% of his health when it hit. But it was also set to do it for every entity it hit, and it did it twice as it 'ticked" the DOT.
Worst case, it could hit up to 14 entities (if you brought down Tarkus, Thaddeus and Avitus), for a 56% health increase over 20 seconds. And he could vomit every 30 seconds or so, on average. That's some ugly shit right there, and a total oversight on my part. I've removed the healing from the vomit entirely, and toned the damage down a bit.
The gut-hook also healed 3% of his health, I've reduced that, and reduced the two-stage (on-hit and on-releaase) damage so it's not instantly lethal to hero units.
That's the good news. The bad news is that this patch is well over a week out.
He's still going to be a bitch on Primarch, but at least he won't be a total marathon bitch
Croak, you are so good to us I could lick you. You might say that licking a toad is a reward for me and not you, but I repeat; you are so good to us.
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Lord_AsmodeusgoeticSobriquet:Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered Userregular
And I went full on corruption, which makes me sad cause
Cyrus was my favorite. I would have joined him if I actually had had that option...
Edit: 40k really takes a "once you go down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" approach to Chaos, but I'd like to see an example of someone who turned traitor actually turn BACK to the Emperor, or someone who was born into Chaos become a follower of the Emperor.
Look, no. If you're thinking like this you're already making a mistake: Taking it too seriously. Warhammer 40k is about extremes, not serious consideration.
Besides, redeemed heretics? That's just asking for broody anti-hero Mary Sues.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
I like to goof around with 40k stuff as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean there isn't room to take it somewhat seriously as well, and it pisses me off when people assert that it's something you can't and shouldn't take seriously in any way, even some of the better written novels (especially Abnetts stuff).
[tangent]
Once someone on the GitP forums (home of the Gestapo Moderators and people who take being unserious as srs bsns) told me that my opinion was in fact wrong, and that 40k is not to be and can not be taken seriously, even if a 40k book or a 40k story or a 40k author can be serious, they are wrong and anyone taking anything in it at all seriously is wrong. I wanted to bite their head off. [/tangent]
as to the "anyone associated with Chaos will be killed by Imperium" thing, Chaos Cultists live within 40k society for decades with nobody noticing them, sometimes centuries or even thousands of years, and while yes a good number of these are found out by the Inquisition, I'd think someone who isn't actively working for Chaos could stay under the radar of the Inquisition at least. As 40k loves to remind us, the galaxy is a big place with countless billions of souls, of whom billions die every day. Plenty of space to get lost, and that's even assuming that somebody goes back to the Imperium.
Actually, now that I think of it, there is one such case in one of Ben Counters books (daemonworld) which I actually liked quite a bit (though whenever I read his books I get the feeling Ben hasn't actually kept himself up to date on what the majority of 40k authors agree on when it comes to how things work in 40k)
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Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. - Lincoln
It was more of those who they knew were working for Chaos. As for those who once worshipped in secret and then come back to imperial society and abandon Chaos I suppose that is another thing altogether.
Someone threw a bone out there and said you can only get one assault terminator squad. NOT true. You can get as many as your pop cap will allow. I know because I killed woggle's entire army IN HIS BASE with 2. I think there were two zhench chaos marines and two plague marines plus hero...whatever else there was I destroyed long before the march.
Someone threw a bone out there and said you can only get one assault terminator squad. NOT true. You can get as many as your pop cap will allow. I know because I killed woggle's entire army IN HIS BASE with 2. I think there were two zhench chaos marines and two plague marines plus hero...whatever else there was I destroyed long before the march.
I think he reasoning was that by the time the cooldown for the first one was up, the match was pretty much over...
Which it my experince, is only true about 4 times out of 10, and were probably brought in at a time where the game's outcome was more or less assured anyway.
The final mission took 100 minutes to complete, mainly because of a couple bugs. Like Croak said, Ulkair heals a LOT. Also, even though I assisted Gabriel Angelos wipe out the Chaos stronghold (south side of the map) units continued to spawn there out of thin air. It got to the point where Angelos' army was completely wiped out with non-stop spawning Chaos units on top of them. I eventually left him dead and went up north to fight Eliphas and Ulkair.
I really felt like we could have won this without the assault terminators. Many wraith guard died to bring you this footage.
I couldn't seem to find the one with the three blood letters v terminators. Pretty boring game, I was just stunned that they could fight over double their resources and win.
How is the campaign in this game? Is it better than the original? Not as repetitive and such forth? I'm thinking about buying it.
Each of the missions are unique (some of them share the same map, but nearly all of these have you tredding different territory)
Downside is that there is only about a dozen of them (which is alright, since I doubt we can expect them to make 30+ hand-crafted missions for an expansion) and since Tzeentch- I mean, the RNG determines what kind of wargear you find, there is really no good way to farm for wargear as in the first one, except by aborting/purposely wiping the same mission over and over... or co-op, if what I hear is true.
Chaos is also a blast to play in multiplayer, IMO, if you are into that sort of thing.
is it just me or is the lictor alpha bugged with his suppression wargear?
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
edited March 2010
Okay, that's what I wanted to know. I enjoyed the unique missions in the first game a lot, but god damn that repetitive "reuse the same map ten billion times" shit. I'm dead keen on Chaos though, so looks like it's a purchase!
So, I found a pretty egregious error with the Great Unclean One in campaign...
His AOE vomit attack was set to heal him 2% of his health when it hit. But it was also set to do it for every entity it hit, and it did it twice as it 'ticked" the DOT.
Worst case, it could hit up to 14 entities (if you brought down Tarkus, Thaddeus and Avitus), for a 56% health increase over 20 seconds. And he could vomit every 30 seconds or so, on average. That's some ugly shit right there, and a total oversight on my part. I've removed the healing from the vomit entirely, and toned the damage down a bit.
The gut-hook also healed 3% of his health, I've reduced that, and reduced the two-stage (on-hit and on-releaase) damage so it's not instantly lethal to hero units.
That's the good news. The bad news is that this patch is well over a week out.
He's still going to be a bitch on Primarch, but at least he won't be a total marathon bitch
THANK YOU
Now just lower his health by like 25% and we're set... :P
Had my third actual match against human players (yeah, I need to play more) teamed up with a friend of mine. Team free for all setting, both of us playing Chaos. I probably should have switched to the Chaos Sorcerer or something though, because I decided to use the Chaos Lord, a commander I have not really played too much with.
I didn't do too badly at first though (I beat back one opponent, I think catching him with his pants down so to speak), though later on I fucked up and lost way too many squads. Primarily as I need to learn to move more as an army. Plus my partner and myself fucked up by allowing ourselves to get caught up kicking the shit out of one team while leaving the other completely unchecked.
Despite my failings I had a lot of fun. Particularly when I started to hold off an Eldar army using only two Bloodcrushers. Though that's because the dude invested nothing in AV at all aside from Wraithguard, which I kept tying up. If I get a chance sometime I should probably play some people here or play with them to try and become less terrible.
I'm not sure why I thought this game had come back to something remotely approaching balance. I had a beautiful firing line set up, and this chaos lord walks, walks directly into my heavy bolter while it's trained on him, my space marines firing kraken bolts all the while, my force commander wailing on him, and assault marines doing their thing.
First he takes the dev squad down to one man almost instantly, I barely manage to retreat them out of there. Then he focuses his attention on my assault marines and after a few seconds I have to get them out. then my champion. he just completely ignores the tac marines shooting at him. my champion manages to get him to 150 health before he bites it.
and at that point I basically vomit with rage and frustration.
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Edit: 40k really takes a "once you go down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" approach to Chaos, but I'd like to see an example of someone who turned traitor actually turn BACK to the Emperor, or someone who was born into Chaos become a follower of the Emperor.
Random locations in FFA does not currently work.
Neither does music...
Both of these are really annoying when playing the game mode.
Look, no. If you're thinking like this you're already making a mistake: Taking it too seriously. Warhammer 40k is about extremes, not serious consideration.
Besides, redeemed heretics? That's just asking for broody anti-hero Mary Sues.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
White FC: 0819 3350 1787
People like hearing about uncorruptable gray knights kicking ass and taking names.
I never asked for this!
playing as sorc atm level 18, I'm thinking farseer or captain up next for more of a support role.
i will put ten imperial credits on them nerfing wraithguard to worthlessness
Anyone looking for awesome "inbetween areas" lore set in the land of 40k should pick up a Ciaphas Cain novel and give it a read.
Two shot a Deff Dredd: Check
Bowl through legions of tyranid and ork: Check
Banshee Squad: FIVE BILLION HEALTH AND KILLS MY SQUADS IN A HIT
It's true though Ciaphas isn't really inbetween. He just enjoys being alive and doesn't waste time thinking the emperor is gonna save his ass.
Ciaphas Cain still is the most awesome commissar ever though.
I never asked for this!
I like to goof around with 40k stuff as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean there isn't room to take it somewhat seriously as well, and it pisses me off when people assert that it's something you can't and shouldn't take seriously in any way, even some of the better written novels (especially Abnetts stuff).
[tangent]
Once someone on the GitP forums (home of the Gestapo Moderators and people who take being unserious as srs bsns) told me that my opinion was in fact wrong, and that 40k is not to be and can not be taken seriously, even if a 40k book or a 40k story or a 40k author can be serious, they are wrong and anyone taking anything in it at all seriously is wrong. I wanted to bite their head off. [/tangent]
as to the "anyone associated with Chaos will be killed by Imperium" thing, Chaos Cultists live within 40k society for decades with nobody noticing them, sometimes centuries or even thousands of years, and while yes a good number of these are found out by the Inquisition, I'd think someone who isn't actively working for Chaos could stay under the radar of the Inquisition at least. As 40k loves to remind us, the galaxy is a big place with countless billions of souls, of whom billions die every day. Plenty of space to get lost, and that's even assuming that somebody goes back to the Imperium.
Actually, now that I think of it, there is one such case in one of Ben Counters books (daemonworld) which I actually liked quite a bit (though whenever I read his books I get the feeling Ben hasn't actually kept himself up to date on what the majority of 40k authors agree on when it comes to how things work in 40k)
"Boop boop", I said.
I will take that bet, and raise it another ten credtis, that howevermuch wraithguard get nerfed, Lighting Claw Assault Terminators will get hit worse.
The fucking Eldar
I think he reasoning was that by the time the cooldown for the first one was up, the match was pretty much over...
Which it my experince, is only true about 4 times out of 10, and were probably brought in at a time where the game's outcome was more or less assured anyway.
Croak is like facepalming and wishing he had thought of this.
What
the
fuck
Also I fucking hate spore mines I mean heretics.
http://www.mediafire.com/?4zlndn3ytew
I really felt like we could have won this without the assault terminators. Many wraith guard died to bring you this footage.
I couldn't seem to find the one with the three blood letters v terminators. Pretty boring game, I was just stunned that they could fight over double their resources and win.
Each of the missions are unique (some of them share the same map, but nearly all of these have you tredding different territory)
Downside is that there is only about a dozen of them (which is alright, since I doubt we can expect them to make 30+ hand-crafted missions for an expansion) and since Tzeentch- I mean, the RNG determines what kind of wargear you find, there is really no good way to farm for wargear as in the first one, except by aborting/purposely wiping the same mission over and over... or co-op, if what I hear is true.
Chaos is also a blast to play in multiplayer, IMO, if you are into that sort of thing.
THANK YOU
Now just lower his health by like 25% and we're set... :P
I didn't do too badly at first though (I beat back one opponent, I think catching him with his pants down so to speak), though later on I fucked up and lost way too many squads. Primarily as I need to learn to move more as an army. Plus my partner and myself fucked up by allowing ourselves to get caught up kicking the shit out of one team while leaving the other completely unchecked.
Despite my failings I had a lot of fun. Particularly when I started to hold off an Eldar army using only two Bloodcrushers. Though that's because the dude invested nothing in AV at all aside from Wraithguard, which I kept tying up. If I get a chance sometime I should probably play some people here or play with them to try and become less terrible.
First he takes the dev squad down to one man almost instantly, I barely manage to retreat them out of there. Then he focuses his attention on my assault marines and after a few seconds I have to get them out. then my champion. he just completely ignores the tac marines shooting at him. my champion manages to get him to 150 health before he bites it.
and at that point I basically vomit with rage and frustration.
On the black screen