It's a little sad how I have more fun playing the AI on brutal than I do with another player on matchmaking. Of course the AI is rather easy to beat once you get used to it and well...it gets repetative and a little boring always winning against the AI. :?
So I learned a few things from the AI from battling it a zillion times.
1. The AI never uses the stage lights, atleast in AI practice anyway.
2. The AI generally just spams tier one units for about six minutes before actually using anything else.
3. The AI has perfect aim and always hits you with the aiming double teams like the one with the Headsplitter.
4. The AI rarely uses Agony Boil.
5. The AI sometimes just spams nuns when playing TC.
6. The AI is retarded on stages with environmental effects like Altar of Blood, Crucible of the Titans, and the Feeding Area and oftenly gets its troops killed.
7. The AI has no idea how to use the hierachy system of TC. It'll have a Overblesser, but still make normal nuns and normal warfathers.
You know....it's actually kinda funny seeing the AI use its avatar try to kill a Bleeding Death at their stage and without troops or the stagelight.
i was playing against the brutal AI TC vs Ironheade and the ai was using mosh pit, so i chained him. it worked, but when i went to melee him he seemed to break free and attacked me extremely fast, killing me in a second or so (it looked kinda like he picked up a hammer from smash brothers)
just thought I would share that to see if anyone else has experienced this
EDIT: Ive just tested it a couple more times, it is indeed caused by chaining (AI)eddie while he is mosh pitting, not sure if it does the same thing while DT'ing with other units, I'll look into it.
Well the most effective way to break a mosh pit is slip through and attack the avatar, but if they have three or more groups of headbangers then I would advise spamming earthshakers. That would send the headbangers flying and break up the mosh pit.
That glitch sounds hilarious. That Double Team is different from the others. Even Double Teaming with a Razor Girl protects Eddie from Chains. That must be the only Double Team in which Eddie is vulnerable.
Actually In my last match, the AI double teamed with both razor girls and a bouncer and i tried chaining them and it had the exact same effect, it may only work on AI battles, or maybe my game is just screwed up, try it for yourself, I just don't recommend standing anywhere near the AI avatar when you do or you'll probably die. it IS funny as hell to see though.
gonna see if it does this glitch with any drowning doom and tainted coil units, Im thinking it may work with double teams where the avatars feet still touch the ground.
EDIT: also forgot to mention it has a slightly different visual effect. you will see the chains grab the avatar but the ground wont start burning around them, you just see the chains.
Indeed, it doesn't work in Matchmaking or Custom Matches. DTing with any units makes avatars invincible to chains in player controlled games. However, I haven't really tried it on the AIs much because they tend not to DT as much as human players do. For example, I have never really seen Ophelia Frightwig any of my units. Nor have I seen Doviculus toss Kisser Missiles...
Testing that is going to be a bitch, man. Though I wish you good fortune
So I learned a few things from the AI from battling it a zillion times.
1. The AI never uses the stage lights, atleast in AI practice anyway.
2. The AI generally just spams tier one units for about six minutes before actually using anything else.
3. The AI has perfect aim and always hits you with the aiming double teams like the one with the Headsplitter.
4. The AI rarely uses Agony Boil.
5. The AI sometimes just spams nuns when playing TC.
6. The AI is retarded on stages with environmental effects like Altar of Blood, Crucible of the Titans, and the Feeding Area and oftenly gets its troops killed.
7. The AI has no idea how to use the hierachy system of TC. It'll have a Overblesser, but still make normal nuns and normal warfathers.
You know....it's actually kinda funny seeing the AI use its avatar try to kill a Bleeding Death at their stage and without troops or the stagelight.
Don't forget...
8. The only weather solo the AI will use is encompassing gloom. They never touch Light of Dawn or Skies Afire.
9. The AI will never use Anvil of Burden.
10. The AI will do really, really, REALLY stupid stuff. (See points 1, 5, 6 7 and the "try to kill a bleeding death" bit)
Also, yeah, gonna have to get Spifomie involved in 4 vs 4s. Next time definitely, last time everything went a bit...2vs2ey....
Actually, the AI does use Anvil. I don't think i've ever seen it use a weather solo in general, but the AI's Eddie can be a annoying bastard with Anvil. It doesn't capitalize as effectively as a player though. Also...damn...I think I need to get GG2: Overture sometime, it seems to have some nice metal lol.
Oh and i've seen Doviculus pick up kissers and Ophelia pick up frightwigs, but I never see them use them nor what they even use them on.
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KorKnown to detonate from time to timeRegistered Userregular
I battled RodTheDestroyer last night, funny match.
My buddies in my party were ragging on him so bad when I told them who I was battling.
They kept saying he heads straight to the Rock Crusher and Roadie spams all the time.
So I knew he had a couple roadies and left some Ratguts at my stage and charged in, blasting his RC with a bunch of broods.
The Roadies still managed to kill a few of my lights though and almost had me worried since he sent a shit ton of them, but I blasted his stage to death with a bride.
He didn't say anything, but my party kept saying he'll never let me win against him again and disconnect everytime we meet.....nothing new.
Theres still a few people who remember me apparently and keep disconnecting during the load screen or first ten seconds of the battle.
So played RodtheDestroyer twice today. Beat him the first, he DC'd the second of course.
I send him a message, "pitful"
And here is what I get back:
"cum on man u already beat me once ur greedy its pitiful not pitful"
Two things to point out here.
Apparently it's greedy to beat someone more than once, and secondly, someone it correcting my spelling in that abomination of a sentence.
Unless it was a noob...fuck that guy. I always engage in a little restraint on the noobies.
I don't see any update available...
No, RodtheDestroyer is a 28/29 that usually will lose the first game you play against him, and when you get paired against him the second time, he'll play the full game, and DC on you when you've got 30% of his stage to go.
He likes to apologize after he does it, as if it's some sort of confession and all is forgiven.
So played RodtheDestroyer twice today. Beat him the first, he DC'd the second of course.
I send him a message, "pitful"
And here is what I get back:
"cum on man u already beat me once ur greedy its pitiful not pitful"
Two things to point out here.
Apparently it's greedy to beat someone more than once, and secondly, someone it correcting my spelling in that abomination of a sentence.
Unless it was a noob...fuck that guy. I always engage in a little restraint on the noobies.
I don't see any update available...
No, RodtheDestroyer is a 28/29 that usually will lose the first game you play against him, and when you get paired against him the second time, he'll play the full game, and DC on you when you've got 30% of his stage to go.
He likes to apologize after he does it, as if it's some sort of confession and all is forgiven.
I don't understand why people disconnect. I don't understand why people care about their win lose ratio. it does not determine how skilled you are. if you have 1000 wins and no losses, it could mean you face nothing but noobs all day.
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“Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.” - Albert Einstein
So played RodtheDestroyer twice today. Beat him the first, he DC'd the second of course.
I send him a message, "pitful"
And here is what I get back:
"cum on man u already beat me once ur greedy its pitiful not pitful"
Two things to point out here.
Apparently it's greedy to beat someone more than once, and secondly, someone it correcting my spelling in that abomination of a sentence.
Unless it was a noob...fuck that guy. I always engage in a little restraint on the noobies.
I don't see any update available...
No, RodtheDestroyer is a 28/29 that usually will lose the first game you play against him, and when you get paired against him the second time, he'll play the full game, and DC on you when you've got 30% of his stage to go.
He likes to apologize after he does it, as if it's some sort of confession and all is forgiven.
I don't understand why people disconnect. I don't understand why people care about their win lose ratio. it does not determine how skilled you are. if you have 1000 wins and no losses, it could mean you face nothing but noobs all day.
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How do I stop a Brood Spam as Iron Heade? My Bouncers are supposed to be Anti Vehicle but they move way too slow to be affective. Broods have too much life for 90 fans. I find the DT with Bouncer to be affective against a brood swarm but like before I move too slow to get my DT into the middle of the group to toss the bouncer. By the time i get in the middle my Bouncers near death! Bouncers really need more life or even better a speed upgrade for them to be worthwhile. How can I compete against a competent TC or DD player in this broken game?
How do I stop a Brood Spam as Iron Heade? My Bouncers are supposed to be Anti Vehicle but they move way too slow to be affective. Broods have too much life for 90 fans. I find the DT with Bouncer to be affective against a brood swarm but like before I move too slow to get my DT into the middle of the group to toss the bouncer. By the time i get in the middle my Bouncers near death! Bouncers really need more life or even better a speed upgrade for them to be worthwhile. How can I compete against a competent TC or DD player in this broken game?
You can mass Bouncers like they mass Broods. It's just much slower. Their Double Team will mess them up badly, since they group together so tightly. Or as they take the Broods attention, dive in and cast Facemelter.
Did that, didnt work. I even mentioned it in my earlier post. The bouncers take too much damage by the time I get them ito the middle of the pack to DT with them. Once I do they do some serious damage but they are so already near death that I can only get off 1 to 2 DT with my group tops. Thunderhogs are out of the question since Broods will shred them up. Bottomline Briutes are too slow to be worth a shit. Wouldnt be having this problem if they moved faster.
OMG....has anyone played animesheik117??? What a freakshow....
He keeps very rudely asking me to surrender ("surrrender u f**king douchebag! I know Major Nelson and I've had 5 people kicked off xBox...") - hilarious!
He's sent me like 10 voice messages...I wonder if there is a way to post them, they are funny...
Did that, didnt work. I even mentioned it in my earlier post. The bouncers take too much damage by the time I get them ito the middle of the pack to DT with them. Once I do they do some serious damage but they are so already near death that I can only get off 1 to 2 DT with my group tops. Thunderhogs are out of the question since Broods will shred them up. Bottomline Briutes are too slow to be worth a shit. Wouldnt be having this problem if they moved faster.
Ah. I enjoy playing as Ironheade a bit more because they're bitch-tier now. If you throw in a Thunderhog Double Team perhaps? I'm experimenting with having two Thunderhogs at the same time, one for dive bombing and another for healing. Also, Light of Dawn is key to hitting DD's army late. Other than that, Ironheade is quite fucked.
Also, I've learned the joy of Reaper Double Team. I was riding around in circles for a long time while my infantry attacked the stage.
KorKnown to detonate from time to timeRegistered Userregular
edited February 2010
Upgraded razorgirls are a good way to deal with broods. The upgraded ones have some kinetic energy in their shots, so when you shoot a brood, you knock them backwards and they do like a small spinout, plus since there are 4 of them to a group, it's harder for the broods to focus fire them to death.
Actually, the AI does use Anvil. I don't think i've ever seen it use a weather solo in general, but the AI's Eddie can be a annoying bastard with Anvil. It doesn't capitalize as effectively as a player though. Also...damn...I think I need to get GG2: Overture sometime, it seems to have some nice metal lol.
Oh and i've seen Doviculus pick up kissers and Ophelia pick up frightwigs, but I never see them use them nor what they even use them on.
ophelia also uses silence quite liberally, and she will use encompassing gloom from time to time, she also just frightwigged one of my gravediggers in my last match for some reason, i have no clue why she would do that since i also had a ratgut nearby. And AI Doviculus uses chains alot while your trying to fan tribute or attack his troops.
Upgraded razorgirls are a good way to deal with broods. The upgraded ones have some kinetic energy in their shots, so when you shoot a brood, you knock them backwards and they do like a small spinout, plus since there are 4 of them to a group, it's harder for the broods to focus fire them to death.
upgraded headbangers do a decent job at holding them at bay too. I fought a guy who was spamming nothing but broods (and thankfully, no debuff units) and the headbangers did a fare job. I'd imagine razor girls in the mix would have helped a lot.
bouncers help if the broods are at your stage. let them come to the bouncer, and then you smash them.
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KorKnown to detonate from time to timeRegistered Userregular
edited February 2010
I say razorgirls over headbangers because when one headbanger hits a brood, the brood moves and the other headbangers have to reset their position to attack. meanwhile razorgirls just keep on shooting and don't lose that time.
I will try out the massing Razorgirl tactic next see if that works. I just find it funny that the brood spammer had the gamer tag of Eddie Rigges. You know Ironheade is quite fucked when even Eddie Riggs doesnt want to play as them.
I will try out the massing Razorgirl tactic next see if that works. I just find it funny that the brood spammer had the gamer tag of Eddie Rigges. You know Ironheade is quite fucked when even Eddie Riggs doesnt want to play as them.
Perhaps he plays on random like Kor and I...ladies. :P
I say razorgirls over headbangers because when one headbanger hits a brood, the brood moves and the other headbangers have to reset their position to attack. meanwhile razorgirls just keep on shooting and don't lose that time.
Razor girls are generally more useful then headbangers anyway, but I like the headbanger's higher health, and I think they work well with razor girls ( good for absorbing damage and such)
I need to play this game more often.
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“Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.” - Albert Einstein
I've had dozens of games before you since I returned...
I seriously hate Altar of Blood though.
I can't use my usual strategy on that stage and the fact that you activate the blood and it's not automatic is annoying.
I don't care what anyone says, Tainted Coil does in fact have a advantage on that stage.
As TC, you can send your spawner units past the pool and to your opponent's stage and just spam endlessly at there.
If your trying to get reinforcements as another faction your opponent can just activate the blood and delay them or if your not careful, kill them.
Sending your troops around the other side takes much longer and you usually have to direct them half the way.
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1. The AI never uses the stage lights, atleast in AI practice anyway.
2. The AI generally just spams tier one units for about six minutes before actually using anything else.
3. The AI has perfect aim and always hits you with the aiming double teams like the one with the Headsplitter.
4. The AI rarely uses Agony Boil.
5. The AI sometimes just spams nuns when playing TC.
6. The AI is retarded on stages with environmental effects like Altar of Blood, Crucible of the Titans, and the Feeding Area and oftenly gets its troops killed.
7. The AI has no idea how to use the hierachy system of TC. It'll have a Overblesser, but still make normal nuns and normal warfathers.
You know....it's actually kinda funny seeing the AI use its avatar try to kill a Bleeding Death at their stage and without troops or the stagelight.
i was playing against the brutal AI TC vs Ironheade and the ai was using mosh pit, so i chained him. it worked, but when i went to melee him he seemed to break free and attacked me extremely fast, killing me in a second or so (it looked kinda like he picked up a hammer from smash brothers)
just thought I would share that to see if anyone else has experienced this
EDIT: Ive just tested it a couple more times, it is indeed caused by chaining (AI)eddie while he is mosh pitting, not sure if it does the same thing while DT'ing with other units, I'll look into it.
gonna see if it does this glitch with any drowning doom and tainted coil units, Im thinking it may work with double teams where the avatars feet still touch the ground.
EDIT: also forgot to mention it has a slightly different visual effect. you will see the chains grab the avatar but the ground wont start burning around them, you just see the chains.
Testing that is going to be a bitch, man. Though I wish you good fortune
Don't forget...
8. The only weather solo the AI will use is encompassing gloom. They never touch Light of Dawn or Skies Afire.
9. The AI will never use Anvil of Burden.
10. The AI will do really, really, REALLY stupid stuff. (See points 1, 5, 6 7 and the "try to kill a bleeding death" bit)
Also, yeah, gonna have to get Spifomie involved in 4 vs 4s. Next time definitely, last time everything went a bit...2vs2ey....
Oh and i've seen Doviculus pick up kissers and Ophelia pick up frightwigs, but I never see them use them nor what they even use them on.
Anyone know what that's about?
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
I send him a message, "pitful"
And here is what I get back:
"cum on man u already beat me once ur greedy its pitiful not pitful"
Two things to point out here.
Apparently it's greedy to beat someone more than once, and secondly, someone it correcting my spelling in that abomination of a sentence.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
In fact, it cost me that match. Stupid AI.
My buddies in my party were ragging on him so bad when I told them who I was battling.
They kept saying he heads straight to the Rock Crusher and Roadie spams all the time.
So I knew he had a couple roadies and left some Ratguts at my stage and charged in, blasting his RC with a bunch of broods.
The Roadies still managed to kill a few of my lights though and almost had me worried since he sent a shit ton of them, but I blasted his stage to death with a bride.
He didn't say anything, but my party kept saying he'll never let me win against him again and disconnect everytime we meet.....nothing new.
Theres still a few people who remember me apparently and keep disconnecting during the load screen or first ten seconds of the battle.
Unless it was a noob...fuck that guy. I always engage in a little restraint on the noobies.
I don't see any update available...
No, RodtheDestroyer is a 28/29 that usually will lose the first game you play against him, and when you get paired against him the second time, he'll play the full game, and DC on you when you've got 30% of his stage to go.
He likes to apologize after he does it, as if it's some sort of confession and all is forgiven.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
I don't understand why people disconnect. I don't understand why people care about their win lose ratio. it does not determine how skilled you are. if you have 1000 wins and no losses, it could mean you face nothing but noobs all day.
that leaderboard meng.
/facepalm
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
There it is...I'll put it in the OP. And welcome. TO THE AGE OF METAL.
But if you have Xbox Live, the game is worth much, much more. See the OP...
High reviews and meh sales mean brutal savings!
Signing up with My Rewards is free, and just a no hassle points system. When I bought a Ps3 and Valkyria Chronicles in Jan 09, I got another game free. which was Little Big Planet. It gives me coupons here and there, which is nice.
Someone "is" correcting....
You can mass Bouncers like they mass Broods. It's just much slower. Their Double Team will mess them up badly, since they group together so tightly. Or as they take the Broods attention, dive in and cast Facemelter.
He keeps very rudely asking me to surrender ("surrrender u f**king douchebag! I know Major Nelson and I've had 5 people kicked off xBox...") - hilarious!
He's sent me like 10 voice messages...I wonder if there is a way to post them, they are funny...
Ah. I enjoy playing as Ironheade a bit more because they're bitch-tier now. If you throw in a Thunderhog Double Team perhaps? I'm experimenting with having two Thunderhogs at the same time, one for dive bombing and another for healing. Also, Light of Dawn is key to hitting DD's army late. Other than that, Ironheade is quite fucked.
Also, I've learned the joy of Reaper Double Team. I was riding around in circles for a long time while my infantry attacked the stage.
Oh, those crazy Vikings!
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
ophelia also uses silence quite liberally, and she will use encompassing gloom from time to time, she also just frightwigged one of my gravediggers in my last match for some reason, i have no clue why she would do that since i also had a ratgut nearby. And AI Doviculus uses chains alot while your trying to fan tribute or attack his troops.
upgraded headbangers do a decent job at holding them at bay too. I fought a guy who was spamming nothing but broods (and thankfully, no debuff units) and the headbangers did a fare job. I'd imagine razor girls in the mix would have helped a lot.
bouncers help if the broods are at your stage. let them come to the bouncer, and then you smash them.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Perhaps he plays on random like Kor and I...ladies. :P
Razor girls are generally more useful then headbangers anyway, but I like the headbanger's higher health, and I think they work well with razor girls ( good for absorbing damage and such)
I need to play this game more often.
Good song title.
(Final Charge returns, only to lose due to several Soul Kissers thrown to the testicles.)
I save my throwing of Soul Kissers on Aggrotars so I get a Fan filled return on my investment...of deaaaaaath
Also, it seems Upgraded Razor Girl DT is unblockable.
I seriously hate Altar of Blood though.
I can't use my usual strategy on that stage and the fact that you activate the blood and it's not automatic is annoying.
I don't care what anyone says, Tainted Coil does in fact have a advantage on that stage.
As TC, you can send your spawner units past the pool and to your opponent's stage and just spam endlessly at there.
If your trying to get reinforcements as another faction your opponent can just activate the blood and delay them or if your not careful, kill them.
Sending your troops around the other side takes much longer and you usually have to direct them half the way.