I also thought that was pretty stupid. Why bother taking up the slot of akimbo machine pistols, a shotgun or other useful sidearm with a grenade launcher that fires ridiculously slow when you can just use an attachment that's faster.
It might also be more useful if you had more than 2 grenade rounds.
Danger Close, Scavenger.
Still does that make up for it being super slow? When you could do those two things on the attachement launcher.
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I'm only at level 16 but the famas is my favorite thus far. I tried to do the scar when i first got it but the slow fire rate just killed it for me. Also it seems like having the scope on the FAMAS makes it slower to aim down and it actually seems to reduce my peripheral vision. I might just be all about the FAMAS + grenade launcher for a while until I can try the FAL (i've liked the m14 in previous r6 games and this seems like the closest thing to it).
Also why does the grenade launcher you get fire slower than the famas grenade launcher?
One would think a dedicated grenade launcher wouldn't be slow as shit compared to an add on.
I also thought that was pretty stupid. Why bother taking up the slot of akimbo machine pistols, a shotgun or other useful sidearm with a grenade launcher that fires ridiculously slow when you can just use an attachment that's faster.
The attachment runs out of ammo pretty quickly, maybe? I've been tempted to attach a grenade launcher, take the secondary grade launcher, use my frags and take the increased explosion damage perk just to see if I can do anything silly. Haven't tried it yet, though.
I also thought that was pretty stupid. Why bother taking up the slot of akimbo machine pistols, a shotgun or other useful sidearm with a grenade launcher that fires ridiculously slow when you can just use an attachment that's faster.
It might also be more useful if you had more than 2 grenade rounds.
Danger Close, Scavenger.
Still does that make up for it being super slow? When you could do those two things on the attachement launcher.
I use subguns, and you can't slap a GL on that. And if you're using the 203, you get four grenades before you need Scavenger. It's worthwhile for area denial. Until you hit 50, then the M79 is replaced in effectiveness for area denial by the Javelin on open maps.
They're the same asshats that bought Modern Warfare 2: Camper's Edition.
Fucking camping cocksuckers.
it's a style of gameplay, just because you cant do it, is no reason to get mad.
Yea its not like camping can't be defeated. Use smoke grenades or flash bangs. Get better with a grenade launcher to put one right through what ever window they are sitting in. Or just get to a higher level and Javelin the fuck out of them.
Javelin only really beats campers on Karachi, where the only places to camp are rooftops.
The explosion is glorious, especially when you see a body fly across the map and land on the bus.
The problem with campers is the way the spawns work. 3 campers on one side of the map means our team spawns on the other side, with roamers pointing directly at us. TDM is more about who can pitch a tent faster.
i personally camp, a lot, that's my style of gameplay, i cant move and react as fast as others, so i adjust my play style to make me still relatively useful, yesterday i was playing my sniper class on wasteland and i was camped out in one of the houses, used my tactical insertion in a small room, went and sniped, i saw a guy coming be he popped me with his assault rifle befor ei could get him, so my tactical insertion spawned me in the room, i dropped it again, went out, pistoled the guy, sniped a few guys, of course the guy game back, got me again, i respawned, dropped my tactical insertion, pistoled him again, this went on 4-5 times until the match ended
i personally camp, a lot, that's my style of gameplay, i cant move and react as fast as others, so i adjust my play style to make me still relatively useful, yesterday i was playing my sniper class on wasteland and i was camped out in one of the houses, used my tactical insertion in a small room, went and sniped, i saw a guy coming be he popped me with his assault rifle befor ei could get him, so my tactical insertion spawned me in the room, i dropped it again, went out, pistoled the guy, sniped a few guys, of course the guy game back, got me again, i respawned, dropped my tactical insertion, pistoled him again, this went on 4-5 times until the match ended
It usually goes the other way for me. I see a guy's tactical insertion, I kill him nearby, I run back to the tactical insertion and I knife him as soon as he spawns.
i personally camp, a lot, that's my style of gameplay, i cant move and react as fast as others, so i adjust my play style to make me still relatively useful, yesterday i was playing my sniper class on wasteland and i was camped out in one of the houses, used my tactical insertion in a small room, went and sniped, i saw a guy coming be he popped me with his assault rifle befor ei could get him, so my tactical insertion spawned me in the room, i dropped it again, went out, pistoled the guy, sniped a few guys, of course the guy game back, got me again, i respawned, dropped my tactical insertion, pistoled him again, this went on 4-5 times until the match ended
It usually goes the other way for me. I see a guy's tactical insertion, I kill him nearby, I run back to the tactical insertion and I knife him as soon as he spawns.
my favorite is to put a claymore on their insertion flare
So hey guys, PC question. How do you change your name tag's name color? I see people using all sorts of colors, bright pink, green, etc, I was just curious as to see what could be done to further customize my callsign.
They're the same asshats that bought Modern Warfare 2: Camper's Edition.
Fucking camping cocksuckers.
it's a style of gameplay, just because you cant do it, is no reason to get mad.
Yea its not like camping can't be defeated. Use smoke grenades or flash bangs. Get better with a grenade launcher to put one right through what ever window they are sitting in. Or just get to a higher level and Javelin the fuck out of them.
Javelin only really beats campers on Karachi, where the only places to camp are rooftops.
The explosion is glorious, especially when you see a body fly across the map and land on the bus.
The problem with campers is the way the spawns work. 3 campers on one side of the map means our team spawns on the other side, with roamers pointing directly at us. TDM is more about who can pitch a tent faster.
i personally camp, a lot, that's my style of gameplay, i cant move and react as fast as others, so i adjust my play style to make me still relatively useful, yesterday i was playing my sniper class on wasteland and i was camped out in one of the houses, used my tactical insertion in a small room, went and sniped, i saw a guy coming be he popped me with his assault rifle befor ei could get him, so my tactical insertion spawned me in the room, i dropped it again, went out, pistoled the guy, sniped a few guys, of course the guy game back, got me again, i respawned, dropped my tactical insertion, pistoled him again, this went on 4-5 times until the match ended
There's a huge difference, in my opinion, between campers and snipers. Campers just sit in corners, waiting for people to run by. They put forth no effort, because they can just spray and pray. Snipers have to take into consideration their positions, cover, and they have to choose their shots as to not easily give them away. If they had no choice to give away their location for a kill, they often move.
Also, nothing is as satisfying as claymore-ing the same guy 5-6 times at the same spot, scavenging their body for another claymore. I look at it as if they were killing themselves!
On the subject of camping I think it really has to do with the way the maps are built. Lots of corners and high places with overviews of the entire area this makes it hard to get to places without being shot instantly. Thats when people give up and just stare at doors till people go inside , its extremely frustrating on some maps. More importantly WHY THE FUCK DOES THE SPAWN SYSTEM STILL SUCK?! Give us back party chat or at least give it back on the playlists that don't suffer from it and fix the spawn system , the campers will eventually deal with themselves. By which I mean they will all go die in a fire.
I would like a Sniper Rifle attachment that disables the kill-cam.
SWEET I just spent 2 minutes getting to my perch, waited another 2 minutes for a good shot, killed the guy in one shot.
OH SHIT YES! Now, he knows exactly where I am, which weapon, attachments and perks I am using! AND he can relay that information to approximately 6 other enemies! Should I just go ahead and lube up my anus now, or?
I don't use my Sniper build anymore.
EDIT: Hell, any suppressed weapon should disable the Kill Cam IMO.
I would like a Sniper Rifle attachment that disables the kill-cam.
SWEET I just spent 2 minutes getting to my perch, waited another 2 minutes for a good shot, killed the guy in one shot.
OH SHIT YES! Now, he knows exactly where I am, which weapon, attachments and perks I am using! AND he can relay that information to approximately 6 other enemies! Should I just go ahead and lube up my anus now, or?
it's a style of gameplay, just because you cant do it, is no reason to get mad.
Bitches be hatin' because they haven't figured out bullet penetration and explosives. Camping should be a non-issue if your IQ is above six.
I've been wondering about bullet penetration, is (in theory) every surface penetrable? I never played Cod4 but I've noticed since I switched to the Aug I've been killing fools through walls much more often. I guess I'm just not used to seeing an FPS take that into account in very much detail
I would like a Sniper Rifle attachment that disables the kill-cam.
SWEET I just spent 2 minutes getting to my perch, waited another 2 minutes for a good shot, killed the guy in one shot.
OH SHIT YES! Now, he knows exactly where I am, which weapon, attachments and perks I am using! AND he can relay that information to approximately 6 other enemies! Should I just go ahead and lube up my anus now, or?
I don't use my Sniper build anymore.
unless it's a team of friends, people don't communicate in game.
I would like a Sniper Rifle attachment that disables the kill-cam.
SWEET I just spent 2 minutes getting to my perch, waited another 2 minutes for a good shot, killed the guy in one shot.
OH SHIT YES! Now, he knows exactly where I am, which weapon, attachments and perks I am using! AND he can relay that information to approximately 6 other enemies! Should I just go ahead and lube up my anus now, or?
I don't use my Sniper build anymore.
Hardcore has no killcam.
Hardcore is sounding better and better every day...
I would like a Sniper Rifle attachment that disables the kill-cam.
SWEET I just spent 2 minutes getting to my perch, waited another 2 minutes for a good shot, killed the guy in one shot.
OH SHIT YES! Now, he knows exactly where I am, which weapon, attachments and perks I am using! AND he can relay that information to approximately 6 other enemies! Should I just go ahead and lube up my anus now, or?
I don't use my Sniper build anymore.
EDIT: Hell, any suppressed weapon should disable the Kill Cam IMO.
Play hardcore, or dont be a camping bitch of a sniper.
it's a style of gameplay, just because you cant do it, is no reason to get mad.
Bitches be hatin' because they haven't figured out bullet penetration and explosives. Camping should be a non-issue if your IQ is above six.
I've been wondering about bullet penetration, is (in theory) every surface penetrable? I never played Cod4 but I've noticed since I switched to the Aug I've been killing fools through walls much more often. I guess I'm just not used to seeing an FPS take that into account in very much detail
not every surface, butr if you use common sense, you can figure it out, plywood and thin walls are, a foot thick of sandbags and the ground are obviously not.
So how effective is the marathon, lightweight, commando combination really? I like the idea of fast moving bladework, but does it do that well compared to normal "shooter" loadouts?
I tried the WA-2000 rifle over the weekend. Man, I hate that thing. I swear it's like trying to carry around an olde-tymey stockade that someone slapped a barrel, trigger mechanism, and a scope on. It seemed to have some really nasty bob-n-weave going on. Much worse than the Intervention or Barrett.
So how effective is the marathon, lightweight, commando combination really? I like the idea of fast moving bladework, but does it do that well compared to normal "shooter" loadouts?
So how effective is the marathon, lightweight, commando combination really? I like the idea of fast moving bladework, but does it do that well compared to normal "shooter" loadouts?
Quite, assuming you're not on Estate.
Is it just kind of a creep around in dark corners never firing a weapon type strategy?
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I'm using the Marathon+Lightweight+Commando set up and to be honest even on Estate I'm always behind the opposition ironsighting them.
Knowing the maps and the more frequented routes also helps.
So how effective is the marathon, lightweight, commando combination really? I like the idea of fast moving bladework, but does it do that well compared to normal "shooter" loadouts?
Quite, assuming you're not on Estate.
Is it just kind of a creep around in dark corners never firing a weapon type strategy?
That would probably work a little better, but the meth-fiend with a knife style is a lot of fun. Never stop moving, stab guys, (die a lot), shoot them with your pistol if you come up behind someone to unlock the tactical knife.
I read somewhere (this thread?) that range determines the maximum distance at which bullets deal 100% damage. Beyond that, it scales down pretty quickly.
This is correct.
Confirming this. Also, the damage rating indicates how "strong" each bullet is, and can help you determine which guns are better for penetrating walls and such. Higher damage bullets will retain more of their power when going through surfaces.
So is anyone else having trouble playing on the PC now? At first Steam gave me an error saying that it couldn't sync with steamcloud, and now when I try to join a game, it crashes to the desktop.
So hey guys, PC question. How do you change your name tag's name color? I see people using all sorts of colors, bright pink, green, etc, I was just curious as to see what could be done to further customize my callsign.
I would like a Sniper Rifle attachment that disables the kill-cam.
SWEET I just spent 2 minutes getting to my perch, waited another 2 minutes for a good shot, killed the guy in one shot.
OH SHIT YES! Now, he knows exactly where I am, which weapon, attachments and perks I am using! AND he can relay that information to approximately 6 other enemies! Should I just go ahead and lube up my anus now, or?
I don't use my Sniper build anymore.
EDIT: Hell, any suppressed weapon should disable the Kill Cam IMO.
So hey guys, PC question. How do you change your name tag's name color? I see people using all sorts of colors, bright pink, green, etc, I was just curious as to see what could be done to further customize my callsign.
:?:
And yeah, IWnet is down.
It seems to be a feature that was retained from CoD1, which was based on the Quake 3 engine. If I remember correctly, you can change the colors with the ^ symbol followed by a number.
I haven't tried this yet, but if you go into the config file, you'll see a "seta name" line. So, If I wanted by name to be red I'd do the following:
seta name: ^1Fiziks
I think that's how it's done. Although, I can't get in-game to test it out.
it's a style of gameplay, just because you cant do it, is no reason to get mad.
Bitches be hatin' because they haven't figured out bullet penetration and explosives. Camping should be a non-issue if your IQ is above six.
I've been wondering about bullet penetration, is (in theory) every surface penetrable? I never played Cod4 but I've noticed since I switched to the Aug I've been killing fools through walls much more often. I guess I'm just not used to seeing an FPS take that into account in very much detail
not every surface, butr if you use common sense, you can figure it out, plywood and thin walls are, a foot thick of sandbags and the ground are obviously not.
Right. "Heavy" cover tends to be located primarily in open areas where flanking is an option, but interior areas are much more skewed to "light" cover. And don't forget in some maps you can shoot through the ceiling. Skidrow became hilarious after I got FMJs on my MG4.
it's a style of gameplay, just because you cant do it, is no reason to get mad.
Bitches be hatin' because they haven't figured out bullet penetration and explosives. Camping should be a non-issue if your IQ is above six.
I've been wondering about bullet penetration, is (in theory) every surface penetrable? I never played Cod4 but I've noticed since I switched to the Aug I've been killing fools through walls much more often. I guess I'm just not used to seeing an FPS take that into account in very much detail
not every surface, butr if you use common sense, you can figure it out, plywood and thin walls are, a foot thick of sandbags and the ground are obviously not.
This is not always true. On one of the maps there is this fucking plaster looking wall, identical to 30 other plaster walls that can be shot through, except that it is made of the most impenetrable material ever imagined. And I know some people stand behind it very deliberately.
Also, some buildings have glass windows, which you can shatter by tossing a grenade through them. However, if there's ever two sets of windows, one higher than the other, and you want to toss a grenade through the upper one to arc it onto someone juuust right... It's going to bounce back at you and piss you off, because that glass is actually made of TITANIUM.
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Still does that make up for it being super slow? When you could do those two things on the attachement launcher.
The attachment runs out of ammo pretty quickly, maybe? I've been tempted to attach a grenade launcher, take the secondary grade launcher, use my frags and take the increased explosion damage perk just to see if I can do anything silly. Haven't tried it yet, though.
I use subguns, and you can't slap a GL on that. And if you're using the 203, you get four grenades before you need Scavenger. It's worthwhile for area denial. Until you hit 50, then the M79 is replaced in effectiveness for area denial by the Javelin on open maps.
i personally camp, a lot, that's my style of gameplay, i cant move and react as fast as others, so i adjust my play style to make me still relatively useful, yesterday i was playing my sniper class on wasteland and i was camped out in one of the houses, used my tactical insertion in a small room, went and sniped, i saw a guy coming be he popped me with his assault rifle befor ei could get him, so my tactical insertion spawned me in the room, i dropped it again, went out, pistoled the guy, sniped a few guys, of course the guy game back, got me again, i respawned, dropped my tactical insertion, pistoled him again, this went on 4-5 times until the match ended
Anyone read today's comic? I'm amused.
It usually goes the other way for me. I see a guy's tactical insertion, I kill him nearby, I run back to the tactical insertion and I knife him as soon as he spawns.
my favorite is to put a claymore on their insertion flare
that's why i hide my flare.
There's a huge difference, in my opinion, between campers and snipers. Campers just sit in corners, waiting for people to run by. They put forth no effort, because they can just spray and pray. Snipers have to take into consideration their positions, cover, and they have to choose their shots as to not easily give them away. If they had no choice to give away their location for a kill, they often move.
Also, nothing is as satisfying as claymore-ing the same guy 5-6 times at the same spot, scavenging their body for another claymore. I look at it as if they were killing themselves!
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On the subject of camping I think it really has to do with the way the maps are built. Lots of corners and high places with overviews of the entire area this makes it hard to get to places without being shot instantly. Thats when people give up and just stare at doors till people go inside , its extremely frustrating on some maps. More importantly WHY THE FUCK DOES THE SPAWN SYSTEM STILL SUCK?! Give us back party chat or at least give it back on the playlists that don't suffer from it and fix the spawn system , the campers will eventually deal with themselves. By which I mean they will all go die in a fire.
SWEET I just spent 2 minutes getting to my perch, waited another 2 minutes for a good shot, killed the guy in one shot.
OH SHIT YES! Now, he knows exactly where I am, which weapon, attachments and perks I am using! AND he can relay that information to approximately 6 other enemies! Should I just go ahead and lube up my anus now, or?
I don't use my Sniper build anymore.
EDIT: Hell, any suppressed weapon should disable the Kill Cam IMO.
Hardcore has no killcam.
I've been wondering about bullet penetration, is (in theory) every surface penetrable? I never played Cod4 but I've noticed since I switched to the Aug I've been killing fools through walls much more often. I guess I'm just not used to seeing an FPS take that into account in very much detail
unless it's a team of friends, people don't communicate in game.
Hardcore is sounding better and better every day...
Play hardcore, or dont be a camping bitch of a sniper.
not every surface, butr if you use common sense, you can figure it out, plywood and thin walls are, a foot thick of sandbags and the ground are obviously not.
Quite, assuming you're not on Estate.
Is it just kind of a creep around in dark corners never firing a weapon type strategy?
Knowing the maps and the more frequented routes also helps.
Always fire your weapon.
That would probably work a little better, but the meth-fiend with a knife style is a lot of fun. Never stop moving, stab guys, (die a lot), shoot them with your pistol if you come up behind someone to unlock the tactical knife.
Confirming this. Also, the damage rating indicates how "strong" each bullet is, and can help you determine which guns are better for penetrating walls and such. Higher damage bullets will retain more of their power when going through surfaces.
Yeah, I think IWNet is completely down. That must be a feature.
:?:
And yeah, IWnet is down.
Just don't unscope after the kill.
It seems to be a feature that was retained from CoD1, which was based on the Quake 3 engine. If I remember correctly, you can change the colors with the ^ symbol followed by a number.
I haven't tried this yet, but if you go into the config file, you'll see a "seta name" line. So, If I wanted by name to be red I'd do the following:
I think that's how it's done. Although, I can't get in-game to test it out.
well not that it matters either way
Steam working fine for other games, it's IWnet
Right. "Heavy" cover tends to be located primarily in open areas where flanking is an option, but interior areas are much more skewed to "light" cover. And don't forget in some maps you can shoot through the ceiling. Skidrow became hilarious after I got FMJs on my MG4.
Oh dear.
This is not always true. On one of the maps there is this fucking plaster looking wall, identical to 30 other plaster walls that can be shot through, except that it is made of the most impenetrable material ever imagined. And I know some people stand behind it very deliberately.
Also, some buildings have glass windows, which you can shatter by tossing a grenade through them. However, if there's ever two sets of windows, one higher than the other, and you want to toss a grenade through the upper one to arc it onto someone juuust right... It's going to bounce back at you and piss you off, because that glass is actually made of TITANIUM.