I enjoyed FF IX the first time I played it, but I've only been able to finish it once.
I got stuck on the jump rope game on my second play through and after about a week quit playing in frustration. I think the pattern change after 100 or 200 in a row just throws me off too much. It's been years since I tried though.
I had to beat the goddamn lightning mini-game in FF X by waiting until nightfall and turning off all of the lights.
I enjoyed FF IX the first time I played it, but I've only been able to finish it once.
Similar with me. I absolutely loved FF9 but for some reason I've only once had the desire to replay it, and I only got about halfway through the game in that playthrough. I sometimes say that I liked the game more than 7, but I've played and finished 7 a whole bunch of times.
In fact, seeing as a villain is supposed to be at least somewhat fearful, I'd say that is a giant fucking failure.
Yeah.
In fact, his monologues are more interesting than any other villain before him, and his allusions to Roy Batty from Blade Runner make him all the more interesting. He also is never actually killed by your party, as stated earlier. These alone make him an interesting, if not scary villain. You don't have to be a fearful villain to be a villain.
I very rarely beat Final Fantasy games more than once. I'll start games on them sure, but about halfway to 3/4th of the way through something else usually comes along to distract me and by the time I get back around to playing it again I just end up starting a new game and the cycle continues.
EDIT: Oh and Kuja. He's the only Final Fantasy villian that I've ever given any consideration toward. While I don't remember everything about the games story, I do remember feeling sorry for him.
We'd be all World of What the hell craft right now and all up ins FF XI if they had only included Triple Triad instead of Tetra Master.
Fuck, I know I would be.
Actually, if I remember right, your Tetra Master subscription was separate from the main FFXI subscription. I would still totally be signed up were it Triple Triad.
If only they would add it to FFXIV... I mean, sure, I've already preordered it, but Triple Triad would just seal the deal.
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We'd be all World of What the hell craft right now and all up ins FF XI if they had only included Triple Triad instead of Tetra Master.
Fuck, I know I would be.
Actually, if I remember right, your Tetra Master subscription was separate from the main FFXI subscription. I would still totally be signed up were it Triple Triad.
If only they would add it to FFXIV... I mean, sure, I've already preordered it, but Triple Triad would just seal the deal.
... You've already pre-ordered FFxiv? I didn't even know you could preorder games without release dates.
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In fact, his monologues are more interesting than any other villain before him, and his allusions to Roy Batty from Blade Runner make him all the more interesting. He also is never actually killed by your party, as stated earlier. These alone make him an interesting, if not scary villain. You don't have to be a fearful villain to be a villain.
We'd be all World of What the hell craft right now and all up ins FF XI if they had only included Triple Triad instead of Tetra Master.
Fuck, I know I would be.
Actually, if I remember right, your Tetra Master subscription was separate from the main FFXI subscription. I would still totally be signed up were it Triple Triad.
Why do people like Triple Triad so much? It's horribly, horribly broken. Get the right cards, and you're more likely to lose a random battle than a game of Triple Triad.
We'd be all World of What the hell craft right now and all up ins FF XI if they had only included Triple Triad instead of Tetra Master.
Fuck, I know I would be.
Actually, if I remember right, your Tetra Master subscription was separate from the main FFXI subscription. I would still totally be signed up were it Triple Triad.
If only they would add it to FFXIV... I mean, sure, I've already preordered it, but Triple Triad would just seal the deal.
... You've already pre-ordered FFxiv? I didn't even know you could preorder games without release dates.
Over here in the UK, GAME already have a product code set up for preordering it, even though there's no set date yet. Looking at their site, GT5 and DC Universe Online are also able to be preordered, despite the lack of a release date. Dunno if it's the same for other stores - I'd guess some will allow it, and some won't.
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that said, if you felt anything approaching dread for kuja then you're either a liar or have a terrible fear of pixelated transvestites
the only redeemable thing about that shitpile of a villain was his theme track
i'd almost go so far as to say he's worse than sephiroth, but his villain-y accomplishments just barely balance out his terrible personality, dialogue, mannerisms and history enough to keep him from falling into that abyss
that said, if you felt anything approaching dread for kuja then you're either a liar or have a terrible fear of pixelated transvestites
the only redeemable thing about that shitpile of a villain was his theme track
i'd almost go so far as to say he's worse than sephiroth, but his villain-y accomplishments just barely balance out his terrible personality, dialogue, mannerisms and history enough to keep him from falling into that abyss
Terrible dialogue and mannerisms? I thought they were awesome. He had a way with words no other villain from that era did. He was also well-translated, which seemed so revolutionary at the time.
Kuja freaking scares me when he goes Trance and starts flipping out.
that said, if you felt anything approaching dread for kuja then you're either a liar or have a terrible fear of pixelated transvestites
the only redeemable thing about that shitpile of a villain was his theme track
i'd almost go so far as to say he's worse than sephiroth, but his villain-y accomplishments just barely balance out his terrible personality, dialogue, mannerisms and history enough to keep him from falling into that abyss
Terrible dialogue and mannerisms? I thought they were awesome. He had a way with words no other villain from that era did. He was also well-translated, which seemed so revolutionary at the time.
since vagrant story came out at roughly the same time it is impossible for you to be more wrong
i mean, this is the kind of wrong that could be packaged in a warhead and used to subjugate nations, your posts are worthy of military subsidies
okay no seriously, kuja minced
that is what he did, that is all he did
his dialogue sounded all hoity-toity but there was absolutely nothing of substance in it, he was throwing a flowery tantrum for his entire duration and he killed the tone every time he opened his mouth
Could I get some proof that his dialogue had nothing of substance? 'Cuz I could go on a tirade using quotes from the script on GameFAQs, if I have to. I'm not saying he was the best villain of the era, no... that I would give to Patrick or Elaine from Koudelka, or hell, the whole god damn monastery.
I thought Kuja meshed with the theme quite nicely. The game opens and closes with theatrics, and Kuja's treatment of everything as part of a larger stage performance really helps to keep that feeling of the game being a play in and of itself running. Then, near the end, he finally acknowledges that he himself is just a actor in it all, rather than the director that he desperately wants to be.
Exactly. Kuja is the penultimate thespian of the entire story, which in and of itself is meant to mimic Shakespearean tragedy in almost every way. This is why I really enjoyed Kuja because he had the depth and obtuseness to his character and his speech that is very characteristic of a villain in Shakespeare.
Exactly why I brought up Roy Batty from Blade Runner as a great analog; both were 'created', and are searching for their ultimate purpose in life, and in the end accept that no matter how much they kill, they will die inevitably, and death scares them. Just like tears in the rain...
I mean we're all mortal, and we were all put here for a purpose of sorts. Vivi and Zidane learned to accept that; Kuja never could.
That and the idea of personal freedom. The whole first half of the game, Kuja is manipulating things from the shadows, as a director giving cues to his actors. Then Garland shows up and exposes him for the actor that he really is, and is infuriated even more knowing that his own"staring" role had been recast to somebody he saw as being beneath him.
Kuja is actually a pretty interesting villain if you put some thought into it. He's kind of let down by the game's dialogue. Actually, most of FFIX could use a remix, it has some interesting themes built into it that were either insufficiently or hamhandedly expressed.
From what I can gather or extrapolate, Kuja spent all of his life being a mere tool for Garland, doing everything he was told to do knowing that at the end, he was just going to be discarded. He hated it, and desperately wanted to be something more, to be the master of his own destiny, to not be doomed to be thrown away when his time was up. In order to do so he plotted to gain power, and hypocritically used the Black Mages his own tools, seeing himself as worth more than them. He hid away his tail because it was a reminder to himself that he was a servant, rather than a master.
However, when he actually gained enough power to overthrow Garland, he learned that he was still doomed, that no matter how much power he gained, the universe was still eventually going to cast him aside. He was still a mere tool, the same as the ones that he had used and that he had convinced himself that he was superior to. Rather than accept that he was worthless and that the universe would continue without him and eventually completely forget him, he decided to use his newfound power to destroy everything, to make a mark that could never possibly be undone.
If existance is a play (and I use this metaphor intentionally, the game seems to be attempting to say this as well), Kuja is a character who desperately wants to be an actor, to have some meaning outside of the lines he is reciting, to go on existing after the curtain has fallen. Rather than simply let the play end and be gone forever, he decides to destroy the entire stage.
Exactly why I brought up Roy Batty from Blade Runner as a great analog; both were 'created', and are searching for their ultimate purpose in life, and in the end accept that no matter how much they kill, they will die inevitably, and death scares them. Just like tears in the rain...
Exactly why I brought up Roy Batty from Blade Runner as a great analog; both were 'created', and are searching for their ultimate purpose in life, and in the end accept that no matter how much they kill, they will die inevitably, and death scares them. Just like tears in the rain...
Hahahahaha
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See Blade Runner, fuckstick. It's a god damn quote from Roy Batty.
The localization on VIII and IX are good, if a little dry.
That was the modus operandi of Square's localization after the boondoggle that was the Sony hack job on FF VII. Get it right, worry about the other stuff if you have time.
Exactly why I brought up Roy Batty from Blade Runner as a great analog; both were 'created', and are searching for their ultimate purpose in life, and in the end accept that no matter how much they kill, they will die inevitably, and death scares them. Just like tears in the rain...
Hahahahaha
Sound more emo
Sound like you know less about one of the greatest film monologues ever.
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I got stuck on the jump rope game on my second play through and after about a week quit playing in frustration. I think the pattern change after 100 or 200 in a row just throws me off too much. It's been years since I tried though.
I had to beat the goddamn lightning mini-game in FF X by waiting until nightfall and turning off all of the lights.
Similar with me. I absolutely loved FF9 but for some reason I've only once had the desire to replay it, and I only got about halfway through the game in that playthrough. I sometimes say that I liked the game more than 7, but I've played and finished 7 a whole bunch of times.
That, and I beat Inward Chaos.
You may continue.
Yeah.
In fact, his monologues are more interesting than any other villain before him, and his allusions to Roy Batty from Blade Runner make him all the more interesting. He also is never actually killed by your party, as stated earlier. These alone make him an interesting, if not scary villain. You don't have to be a fearful villain to be a villain.
EDIT: Oh and Kuja. He's the only Final Fantasy villian that I've ever given any consideration toward. While I don't remember everything about the games story, I do remember feeling sorry for him.
If only they would add it to FFXIV... I mean, sure, I've already preordered it, but Triple Triad would just seal the deal.
... You've already pre-ordered FFxiv? I didn't even know you could preorder games without release dates.
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Well, it wasn't clear before.
But it's pretty obvious now that you're a troll.
To be fair, Kuja is a pretty cool guy.
Really?
You didn't think the Riverdancing rats were the worst part of that game?
And planets.
Why do people like Triple Triad so much? It's horribly, horribly broken. Get the right cards, and you're more likely to lose a random battle than a game of Triple Triad.
no, every time kuja appeared onscreen was the worst part of the game
Kill this man
It is the awesome card game in FFVIII.
The fuck am I going to remember about a card game
Over here in the UK, GAME already have a product code set up for preordering it, even though there's no set date yet. Looking at their site, GT5 and DC Universe Online are also able to be preordered, despite the lack of a release date. Dunno if it's the same for other stores - I'd guess some will allow it, and some won't.
I'm honestly just going to relegate myself to shaking my head at everything you post until there's something actually worth taking away from them.
Every time Kuja appeared onscreen, I felt absolute dread. He was a psycho wrapped up in verbose language and Polonius-like monologues.
zephyr, listen
you need to hear this
shadow hearts is pregnant, and she says you're the father
but all this time you've been ignoring her and going out with that final fantasy IX cougar
shin megami tensei told me this, but don't hate her for it, she's fine with just being friends
she's just worried about you
we're all worried about you
didn't you know I sleep with all three on random days of the week?
shadow hearts is my first baby mama
shin megami tensei my second
and final fantasy ix is my dirty whore on the side
that said, if you felt anything approaching dread for kuja then you're either a liar or have a terrible fear of pixelated transvestites
the only redeemable thing about that shitpile of a villain was his theme track
i'd almost go so far as to say he's worse than sephiroth, but his villain-y accomplishments just barely balance out his terrible personality, dialogue, mannerisms and history enough to keep him from falling into that abyss
Terrible dialogue and mannerisms? I thought they were awesome. He had a way with words no other villain from that era did. He was also well-translated, which seemed so revolutionary at the time.
Kuja freaking scares me when he goes Trance and starts flipping out.
since vagrant story came out at roughly the same time it is impossible for you to be more wrong
i mean, this is the kind of wrong that could be packaged in a warhead and used to subjugate nations, your posts are worthy of military subsidies
okay no seriously, kuja minced
that is what he did, that is all he did
his dialogue sounded all hoity-toity but there was absolutely nothing of substance in it, he was throwing a flowery tantrum for his entire duration and he killed the tone every time he opened his mouth
I mean we're all mortal, and we were all put here for a purpose of sorts. Vivi and Zidane learned to accept that; Kuja never could.
That and the idea of personal freedom. The whole first half of the game, Kuja is manipulating things from the shadows, as a director giving cues to his actors. Then Garland shows up and exposes him for the actor that he really is, and is infuriated even more knowing that his own"staring" role had been recast to somebody he saw as being beneath him.
However, when he actually gained enough power to overthrow Garland, he learned that he was still doomed, that no matter how much power he gained, the universe was still eventually going to cast him aside. He was still a mere tool, the same as the ones that he had used and that he had convinced himself that he was superior to. Rather than accept that he was worthless and that the universe would continue without him and eventually completely forget him, he decided to use his newfound power to destroy everything, to make a mark that could never possibly be undone.
If existance is a play (and I use this metaphor intentionally, the game seems to be attempting to say this as well), Kuja is a character who desperately wants to be an actor, to have some meaning outside of the lines he is reciting, to go on existing after the curtain has fallen. Rather than simply let the play end and be gone forever, he decides to destroy the entire stage.
Hahahahaha
Sound more emo
See Blade Runner, fuckstick. It's a god damn quote from Roy Batty.
That was the modus operandi of Square's localization after the boondoggle that was the Sony hack job on FF VII. Get it right, worry about the other stuff if you have time.
Sound like you know less about one of the greatest film monologues ever.
FF9 is my favorite for a reason. Well told, Jothki et al.
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