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Recommend on: Other 'musicals' like Dr. Horrible

hamdingershamdingers Registered User regular
edited November 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
To try to be concise: despite not liking other Whedon things (Buffy, Firefly, etc - not a troll they just didn't grab me) based on my like of NPH, Fillion and Day in other things I tried Dr Horrible and really liked it - particularly the music.

I don't have much musical experience, but I especially liked the interweaving patters (like NPH and Day do in My Eyes) and the clever lyrics.

Anyone have something similar to recommend?

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    PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Have you watched the prequel?

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    Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I know you're not a fan of Buffy, but you might wanna try the episode Once More, With Feeling. I think it might be on Hulu.

    Edit: Oh yeah, Hedwig. Atombomb nailed it.

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    AtomBombAtomBomb Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Really, really good.
    Rent.
    Rocky Horror.

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    VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I know you're not a fan of Buffy, but you might wanna try the episode Once More, With Feeling. I think it might be on Hulu.

    This one's basically it. But keep in mind it's only an episode and not that long.

    Hedwig's a bit more of an actual movie, but it's really that humorous. Good watch, though. Rocky Horror is mandantory.

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    SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    You might enjoy going to a live musical. Where do you live?

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    hamdingershamdingers Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Thanks for the responses - everyone. It's always fun to see people talk about something they like.
    I know you're not a fan of Buffy, but you might wanna try the episode Once More, With Feeling. I think it might be on Hulu.

    I am aware of this (and the similar Scrubs episode), but I don't know enough Buffy backstory to grok it I'm sure. Worth a Hulu though, so I will check it out.
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    You might enjoy going to a live musical. Where do you live?

    North of Boston, so I'm sure there are a lot of options. Sadly, this couldn't be more out of the wife's taste-range. Singing as dialogue is a leap some folks can't make. Solo is not something I'm comfortable with.

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    MoSiAcMoSiAc Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Repo is interesting, though it's kinda sci-fi gore musical. Oh and Paris Hilton is in it, but don't let that be a deal breaker.

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    truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    MoSiAc wrote: »
    Repo is interesting, though it's kinda sci-fi gore musical. Oh and Paris Hilton is in it, but don't let that be a deal breaker.

    just my opinion, but I'd look for a clip or two online first even before renting this one. I found the music to be terrible. They should have went with a musical format on that instead of opera where you have to sing every single line of dialogue. Trying to sing about modifying your genetics with an inverse tachyon pulse in a modified matrix with a plasma base sounds like the musical interpretation of the sensation of vomiting. That was really a painful movie to get through. I did enjoy the setting/visuals, plot, characters, etc.... but the music. If the music is bad in a musical you've already lost.

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    SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Veer Zaara (Bollywood) is good. Sweeny Todd looks good, but I still haven't seen it.

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    There was a recent Batman: Brave and the Bold episode where NPH played a singing supervillain. It was awesome.

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    DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Not knowing anything else about your music/movie tastes, I'm going to key off of Dr. Horrible's poppy music and quirky/offbeat humor and tone. Here are a bunch of musicals I think you'd dig. You can probably find clips from all of these guys on YouTube, if you want to see if you like them before going off and spending lots of money on CDs/DVDs.

    Altar Boyz: The idea of the show is that it's a concert by a Christian boy band called the Altar Boyz, who sing songs like "Jesus Called Me on My Cell Phone" and "Girl, You Make Me Wanna Wait." Despite the premise sounding like it would come across as overwhelmingly crude and offensive, it's incredibly tasteful and well done. The music is great, the lyrics are unbelievably clever, and it's overall just a heck of a lot of fun. The CD works better than most show cast recordings because they basically treat it as if it's the studio album of the band itself.

    Avenue Q: Think "Sesame Street for adults" - humans and puppets together onstage singing songs like "If You Were Gay" and "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist". Seven or eight years ago it took Broadway by storm when it won the Tony Award for Best Musical in a complete and utter upset over Wicked, the big huge mega-show that everybody expected to win. It's intelligent, it's heartwarming, and it's unabashedly inappropriate. Definitely check out the CD.

    Little Shop of Horrors: Pretty much THE defacto "campy sci-fi musical" that isn't Rocky Horror. Check out the movie with Rick Moranis and Steve Martin if you haven't already, it's great stuff.

    Rent: This is really the one musical written in the past twenty years that I'd consider a cultural milestone. It's La Boheme set in the East Village in the late 80s/early 90s. It's more serious than all of the other light and fluffy comedies I've been listing, but it's still a lot of fun. The author, who died the night of final previews off-Broadway, had a truly prolific musical voice - this show basically set the stage for the modern trend of rock musicals. The regular film version sucks, but there's a great DVD called "Rent: Filmed Live on Stage" that's a very well-made filmed version of the show made before it closed on Broadway.

    Urinetown: This show is a bit more "theatery" and less pop-oriented than everything else I've listed, but I love it too much to not include. The basic premise is that it's set in the future where there's a big water shortage and people have to pay to use the bathroom. It's all controlled by a corrupt corporation, and it tells the story of a public urinal worker who stages an uprising to let everybody pee for free. It's got a great edgy feel to it, and it's wildly funny in a dark way that you don't see often in a musical.

    Zombie Prom: Nobody's ever heard of this show, but it's brilliant. It's got zombies, it's got camp, and I'd say the music reminds me more of Dr. Horrible than anything else I've listed here. There's a half-hour long film version, but it sucks. Try to track down the CD.

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    MoosehatIVMoosehatIV Saw a blimp once Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I never thought I would have enough musical knowledge to actually give advice on them... but somehow I do.


    Check out Reefer Madness. It is an excellent musical parody of an old Anti-Drug movie.


    And yes, there is a signing Jesus in it.

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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    If you are looking for songs from musicals with interweaving lyrics, and not necessarily things that are thematically similar to Dr. Horrible, there are a few classic recommendations:

    Confrontation, from Les Miserables. Javert and Jean Valjean sing an argument. The lyrics aren't overly "clever", but the point/counterpoint between the two make for a powerful duet in which the two singers sing different lyrics (until the end).
    Les Miserables - Confrontation

    One Day More, from Les Miserables. Everyone gets to sing! Each principal part sings their major theme, and it all weaves together nicely. Probably the showstopper piece of the show, because then you realize that all of the songs were meant to be sung together.
    Les Miserables - One Day More

    Also Parodied in Star Wars the Musical, as "Use the Force" (I apologize for the quality of the sound in advance... it is, after all, a high school production. The Han Solo entrance is pretty classic.)
    Use the Force!

    Fugue for Tinhorns from Guys and Dolls has three different lyrics, but the same melodic line for each of them, sung a few bars offset so that they layer. It's interesting, to say the least:
    Fugue for Tinhorns (movie version)


    As far as clever lyrics, "Popular" from Wicked comes to mind. Yes, it's Steven Schwartz, but this particular song oozes with fun rhymes that aren't completely obvious. For example, this clever bump:

    And with an assist from me
    To be who you'll be
    Instead of dreary who-you-were... erm, are.
    There's nothing that can stop you
    From becoming popu-
    Ler... uh, lar?

    Popular

    A Little Priest, from Sweeney Todd. The only song that I know of that describes how people would taste in meat pies based on their profession. Full of awful puns on the backdrop of dark humor, and yet done in such a lighthearted style. This particular performance is probably one of the best:
    A Little Priest (Angela Lansbury/George Hearn)

    Sondheim (who wrote Sweeney Todd) has a lot of clever lyrics in general. I could highly recommend Company, especially the latest revival (which was done in an experimental style where all of the singers are also instrumentalists... the "Great Performances" recording is available as Play Now from Netflix).

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    cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    In terms of good TV musical episodes, the Xena ones were surprisingly decent and I think were the trend setter for this in TV. The Buffy one was good.

    Ones to ignore/run away from: 7th Heaven musical, Scrubs musical.

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    DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
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    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    A Little Priest, from Sweeney Todd. The only song that I know of that describes how people would taste in meat pies based on their profession. Full of awful puns on the backdrop of dark humor, and yet done in such a lighthearted style. This particular performance is probably one of the best:
    A Little Priest (Angela Lansbury/George Hearn)

    Sondheim (who wrote Sweeney Todd) has a lot of clever lyrics in general. I could highly recommend Company, especially the latest revival (which was done in an experimental style where all of the singers are also instrumentalists... the "Great Performances" recording is available as Play Now from Netflix).

    I... really didn't like the Lansbury/Hearn production of Sweeney Todd. Given that NPH is IN the more recent version (and I generally find it to be superior in most other ways except set), I suggest that. The entire thing is on YouTube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrtgkaiSfCk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlBnwsz0hSY&feature=related
    Skip to 4:00 for NPH.

    I like it better than the recent movie as well, though there are things I like about that. I don't want to sound like a musical snob, but I think this production is still better.

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    Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I'll repeat what someone else said. Avenue Q is hilarious. The song "The Internet is for Porn" is excellent...Infact the entire sound track is great. You can buy the soundtrack in cd format or if they are performing in your area you can see them live. Not sure if there is a DVD of the show out there but maybe.

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yeah, I just happened to see Avenue Q a few nights ago and it was great. I had seen clips of it on youtube here and there, but seeing it in person was definitely a different experience. Well-worth checking out.

    I don't think there's a DVD of the show out, at least none that I saw on amazon.

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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Delzhand wrote: »
    I... really didn't like the Lansbury/Hearn production of Sweeney Todd. Given that NPH is IN the more recent version (and I generally find it to be superior in most other ways except set), I suggest that. The entire thing is on YouTube.
    I don't like the Lansbury/Hearn production overall, either. But I think "A Little Priest" is done better in that version than any other version to date. Hearn just does a great job of reveling in the role. The loud single laugh (at 1:15 in the YouTube clip) really hooks me. The version in the movie is just plain flat and uncompelling. The more recent LuPone version is great, but again, I think the Lansbury/Hearn "A Little Priest" is ephemerally better in ways that I can't describe.

    EDIT: Almost off topic (but not quite), NPH was in a recent revival of Assassins, another Sondheim musical. I own that soundtrack, and he was pretty good in that. It is a better recording overall than the original cast album, I think.

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    DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    IMO the John Doyle production of Sweeney Todd is pretty much the definitive one. I'm really bummed it didn't get a PBS DVD a la his production of Company.

    Assassins is indeed a fantastic show. I have mixed feelings as to the original cast recording vs. the revival. I think the original is much "prettier", but the revival does a much better job of representing the show as a show, if that makes sense; the original CD sounds like pretty voices singing pretty music instead of the very intense show exploring very serious themes that the show actually is.

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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    IMO the John Doyle production of Sweeney Todd is pretty much the definitive one. I'm really bummed it didn't get a PBS DVD a la his production of Company.
    Yeah, that's the one with Patti LuPone in it (Eva Peron as Mrs. Lovett? With a Tuba?). I have a hard time calling it the "definitive" one, because of the richness of the Sondheim score (which really is meant for a full pit orchestra). But it is excellent, and probably better in quality than the OCA. I didn't know (until looking it up just now) that he also did the Company production where the singers are instrumentalists, but it makes total sense. Maybe he won't rest until all Sondheim musicals get such treatment? *grin*

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    MoosehatIV wrote: »
    I never thought I would have enough musical knowledge to actually give advice on them... but somehow I do.


    Check out Reefer Madness. It is an excellent musical parody of an old Anti-Drug movie.


    And yes, there is a signing Jesus in it.

    :whistle:Listen to Jesus, Jimmy:whistle:

    Seconding this. It's a pretty fantastic musical that died due to extremely unfortunate circumstances.*

    Cinemax made a film adaptation of it that's pretty good, and there is a soundtrack available from the original cast.

    Here's a youtube of the Overture from the film adaptation. Featuring Alan Cumming.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdrcKDtp4NE

    *It opened off-broadway on September 15, 2001. Death sentence, basically.

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    cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
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    It's got Kristen Bell in the movie. I've been meaning to see it.

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    PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Angela Lansbury singing about eating people.

    Not something I ever thought I'd hear.


    edit: Reminds me of those Short N' Stouts that someone on here made in Spore. Flooded my game with razor-fanged teapots.

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    KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Wait, is Avenue Q's "The Internet is for Porn" the same as the old WOW machinima video? In which case, which came first?

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    The music from the old WoW machinima video is taken directly from the original cast recording of Avenue Q. If you do a search you can see live versions of it.

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    DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    I... really didn't like the Lansbury/Hearn production of Sweeney Todd. Given that NPH is IN the more recent version (and I generally find it to be superior in most other ways except set), I suggest that. The entire thing is on YouTube.
    I don't like the Lansbury/Hearn production overall, either. But I think "A Little Priest" is done better in that version than any other version to date. Hearn just does a great job of reveling in the role. The loud single laugh (at 1:15 in the YouTube clip) really hooks me. The version in the movie is just plain flat and uncompelling. The more recent LuPone version is great, but again, I think the Lansbury/Hearn "A Little Priest" is ephemerally better in ways that I can't describe.

    EDIT: Almost off topic (but not quite), NPH was in a recent revival of Assassins, another Sondheim musical. I own that soundtrack, and he was pretty good in that. It is a better recording overall than the original cast album, I think.

    Lansbury's Lovett has this sort of tottering madness, while Lupone's Lovette has more of a self-aware sadism. If nothing else it's interesting to see the different takes on the character.

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    Grim OutlookGrim Outlook Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    whoah whoah since when is there a dr horrible prequel?

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    PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
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    whoah whoah since when is there a dr horrible prequel?

    Fanmade, by the looks of it.

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    PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    MoSiAc wrote: »
    Repo is interesting, though it's kinda sci-fi gore musical. Oh and Paris Hilton is in it, but don't let that be a deal breaker.

    I wanted to suggest REPO! The Genetic Opera but I went looking to see if anyone else had. It's fucking awesome on a lot of levels and the only complaint anyone can come up with for it is superficial and will either be that OhGr didn't have enough singing parts or that Paris Hilton was in it.

    Paris Hilton is so good in it that you will instantly forget who she is. OhGr got screwed but who fucking cares.

    It's brilliant and it's absolutely up the alley of anyone who enjoyed Dr. Horrible

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    RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Avenue Q and my namesake are the correct answers here

    Other excellent musicals include Sweeney Todd (see the movie it's as excellent as it gets, really), Les Mis, a little-known musical titled Batboy which is just fuckin amazing

    1776 is pretty badass imo

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    VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Aye, for a Dr. Horrible type of musical fan specifically, I can't think of a better one than Avenue Q. If you're feeling adventurous, you can give the more "traditional" musicals a try... but be forewarned that they're an acquired taste, you might not like the campiness of them at first. Modern musicals are getting less campy, but the classics take a lot of suspension of disbelief.

    I'm a big fan of them, personally. I guess my disbelief is easily suspended. =) So, that being said, I find that I personally enjoy:

    * My Fair Lady (A kind of "gentle foothold" into the world of campy musicals, because it makes fun of itself a lot and has a lot of humor that we can appreciate even more in this generation I think, such as the main character's father... it's pretty funny stuff)

    * Wicked (which, admittedly, is unusually campy for the modern age of musicals, but I love it anyways =) )

    * Les Miserables (Fantastic, for all the reasons mentioned in the excellent post someone made on page 1)


    I also like the seasonal "movie musical" White Christmas, but its so campy that it'll make your head spin if you're not prepared. Most people that I show it to who are under the age of 40 usually can't sit through it. =)

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    Kalkino wrote: »
    Wait, is Avenue Q's "The Internet is for Porn" the same as the old WOW machinima video? In which case, which came first?

    Avenue Q came first. Take a look at it, I think you'll find the rest of the music to be just as hilarious as that tune. =)

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    SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    A couple that I don't think have been mentioned yet:

    Into the Woods: Yet another Sondheim musical, this one plays with traditional fairy tales, intertwining the stories and characters and finding out what happens after "happily ever after". It's delightfully clever.

    Evil Dead, the Musical is a boatload of fun. It is best seen live, and can be appreciated even by people who haven't seen the movie (as long as you're passingly familiar with horror movie tropes, it's hilarious).

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    The old British TV show The Singing Detective

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDOe7Npinl4

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    CygnusZCygnusZ Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Is Spamalot still playing? I also think it's pretty bizarre that someone can watch a movie about a singing supervillian and then complain that older musicals require too much suspension of disbelief.

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    TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    CygnusZ wrote: »
    Is Spamalot still playing? I also think it's pretty bizarre that someone can watch a movie about a singing supervillian and then complain that older musicals require too much suspension of disbelief.

    There is a point where something becomes absurd enough that you can accept whatever it throws at you.

    A supervillian that keeps a blog? Absurd. That he (and others) burst out in song? Meh, why not he already has a blog.

    A lawyer in a murder trial? Routine. The jury breaking out in a jaunty number - where the hell did that come from?

    I wish I was awake enough to make up a good name for that "rule".

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    DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I call it the Rule of Internal Consistency.

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    HlubockyHlubocky Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I didn't see this posted, but I couldn't resist after seeing posts about both NPH and Les Miserable. I give to you, the cast of How I Met Your Mother doing the Confrontation:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhXsJjVdj1E

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    LuthzLuthz Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Hlubocky wrote: »
    I didn't see this posted, but I couldn't resist after seeing posts about both NPH and Les Miserable. I give to you, the cast of How I Met Your Mother doing the Confrontation:

    I've seen that video before, but it was actually before I had heard of les miserables. It's definitely 100x better after knowing what song they're doing.



    I know people have linked other Les Miserables songs, but I can't stress enough how fantastic the entire musical is. My favorite song, Empty chair at empty tables, follows:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJnjcX8skXk

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    DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    No love for Evil Dead: The Musical?

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