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Radiant Silvergun 3 is 360 bound?!

BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
syndalis wrote:
http://www.g-rev.com/Schedule/Xbox360/Jp/schedule.html

So, if this isn't a misprint, that could be a VERY BIG DEAL.

edit: レイディアントシルバーガン3, on the bottom, is Radiant Silvergun, basically.
syndalis wrote:
Okay, a bit more info for those who are clueless.
wikipedia wrote:
Radiant Silvergun is a vertically scrolling shooter video game, developed by Treasure Co. Ltd. It was released in arcades on the ST-V platform in 1998 and subsequently ported to the Sega Saturn, with added cutscenes by noted animation studio GONZO. The game was not released outside of Japan.

The game is considered by many to be the pinnacle of the 'maximalist' school of vertical shooter design. (Contrast this with Ikaruga's studied minimalism.) It features a unique and innovative weapons system, with seven weapons available at any time. The player has three buttons to control the weapons; the weapon fired depends on the combination of buttons pressed.
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wikipedia wrote:
Ikaruga (斑鳩, Ikaruga? lit. Spotted Dove) is a vertically scrolling shooter video game developed by a four man team led by lead game designer, BG graphic designer and music composer Hiroshi Iuchi of Treasure Co. Ltd. It was released in the arcades in 2001 on Sega's NAOMI system and subsequently ported to Dreamcast in Japan and then worldwide to the Nintendo GameCube. It is a spiritual sequel to Radiant Silvergun, and the introduction says it is "Project RS2" (usually interpreted as "Project Radiant Silvergun 2").

The gameplay consists of shooting enemies who come in one of two polarities: either black(/red) or white(/blue). The player's ship can be either polarity, and can be switched at will. The first character in the title (which is normally pronounced in its Japonic reading as /fu/ or /madara/, or its Sinitic reading as /han/) means spotted or variegated, which can be interpreted as a metaphoric reference to this polarity change. This yin-yang gameplay mechanic was previously explored in another Treasure game for the Sega Saturn and PlayStation called Silhouette Mirage.
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So basically, the sequel to Ikaruga

Cross posting this but full credit goes to Syndalis. And he's right this is huge for the 360 if true. It's been a long time since I had a nice SHMUP to sink my teeth into, I'm going to be praying to the gods this is released over Live Arcade. Hell I'd even pay for it if it was a full retail title.

How many of you guys played Ikaruga on the Cube? Amazing game.

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  • Drunk_caterpillarDrunk_caterpillar Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Neat.

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Well, they also said Nights was coming in that list. So grain of salt. But I believe G.rev has done some dev work for Treasure so it isn't impossible.

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  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel anime af When's KoFRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Fuck yes! Now if only they port Radiant Silvergun from the Saturn I'll be all set.

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    FreddyD wrote:
    Well, they also said Nights was coming in that list. So grain of salt. But I believe G.rev has done some dev work for Treasure so it isn't impossible.

    this was on lists for a long time now RS3 has been known just not way out there. Play mentioned this in their issues last spring about Japanese's games on the horizon.

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  • Gaming-ModuleGaming-Module Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    As a Wii60 owner coming from owning an X-Cube last generation, this excites me.

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  • AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I fucking love Ikaruga, and just got a 360, so this is fantastic news!

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  • GimeCGimeC Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Well, damn. Guess I'm buying a 360 now.

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'd be kind of surprised if it was Live Arcade. Surely it'd be an actual arcade machine first, then a full retail port? G-Rev did it for Senko No Ronde... and if it's an actual retail release then the chances of it getting a Western release suddenly drop very, very sharply. Still, I'll happily be proven wrong. Worked for Ikaruga, at least.

    (I'd prefer a boxed retail release, I have to say.)

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  • FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'd be kind of surprised if it was Live Arcade. Surely it'd be an actual arcade machine first, then a full retail port? G-Rev did it for Senko No Ronde... and if it's an actual retail release then the chances of it getting a Western release suddenly drop very, very sharply. Still, I'll happily be proven wrong. Worked for Ikaruga, at least.

    (I'd prefer a boxed retail release, I have to say.)
    I'm still kinda pissed that MS did not bring Senko no Ronde stateside. They also made it region locked.

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    FreddyD wrote:
    I'd be kind of surprised if it was Live Arcade. Surely it'd be an actual arcade machine first, then a full retail port? G-Rev did it for Senko No Ronde... and if it's an actual retail release then the chances of it getting a Western release suddenly drop very, very sharply. Still, I'll happily be proven wrong. Worked for Ikaruga, at least.

    (I'd prefer a boxed retail release, I have to say.)
    I'm still kinda pissed that MS did not bring Senko no Ronde stateside. They also made it region locked.

    You and me both. The Korean release is region-locked, too. :(

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  • Thoughtless MuseThoughtless Muse Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    It's an extremely unlikely rumor, not threadworthy.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited January 2007
    It's an extremely unlikely rumor, not threadworthy.

    http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2006/09/radiant-silvergun-ikaruga-sequel.html

    You sure about that?

    Old article, but I'll be damned that i didn't notice it earlier. This is legit.

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  • Thoughtless MuseThoughtless Muse Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    syndalis wrote:
    It's an extremely unlikely rumor, not threadworthy.

    http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2006/09/radiant-silvergun-ikaruga-sequel.html

    You sure about that?

    Old article, but I'll be damned that i didn't notice it earlier. This is legit.

    There's no point in arguing over rumors. If it happens, it happens. We have nothing substantial to go by, people are blowing this way out of proportion.

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    syndalis wrote:
    It's an extremely unlikely rumor, not threadworthy.

    http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2006/09/radiant-silvergun-ikaruga-sequel.html

    You sure about that?

    Old article, but I'll be damned that i didn't notice it earlier. This is legit.

    There's no point in arguing over rumors. If it happens, it happens. We have nothing substantial to go by, people are blowing this way out of proportion.

    you live in a world of hate huh? You have to be fucking 2006 Hater of the Year. You must hate to hate huh? Keep it up and 07 will be yours easily

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  • AlphaTwoAlphaTwo Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    GimeC wrote:
    Well, damn. Guess I'm buying a 360 now.

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  • Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    It's an extremely unlikely rumor, not threadworthy.
    I don't think you get to decide what's threadworthy and what's not.

    Yeah, that's right, you don't. In fact, what you did here is thread assassination. Don't do it again.



    So, I read the OP and I'm still not sure what we think it means. Radiant Silvergun may be coming to 360, as in, the exact game that's so prized on the Saturn? Or a sequel to Radiant Silvergun? Or what?

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  • Eight RooksEight Rooks Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Captain K wrote:
    So, I read the OP and I'm still not sure what we think it means. Radiant Silvergun may be coming to 360, as in, the exact game that's so prized on the Saturn? Or a sequel to Radiant Silvergun? Or what?

    It says 3. And the "rumour" says Treasure always planned the series as a trilogy (though before Ikaruga IIRC they were always saying they didn't do sequels, but whatever). Seems to point to the latter.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    A title code-named Radiant Silvergun 3. Whether it is a new title all its own and only a spiritual successor to the original Radiant Silvergun (a la Ikaruga) or a real sequel is not known. Whether it exists and is in active development can't even be confirmed.

    I mean, all we really know are that the name has popped up in a couple of places. G.Rev is the most solid evidence we have yet, since they worked with Treasure on Ikaruga. But, it's still circumstantial at this point.

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    ... This is a massive digression of epic proportions, but are there any shmups of quality out for the DS? It just seems naturally suited to vertical scrollers.

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  • BamelinBamelin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah I believe that this would be part 3. Very exciting stuff if it happens as the first 2 were pretty fantastic games.

    And if it's priced as a Live Arcade title (800 - 1200 points?!) .. that's like 20 bucks which would be an awsome score.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    A title code-named Radiant Silvergun 3. Whether it is a new title all its own and only a spiritual successor to the original Radiant Silvergun (a la Ikaruga) or a real sequel is not known. Whether it exists and is in active development can't even be confirmed.
    but the gameplay in Radient Silvergun and Ikaruga is very dissimilar. Ikaruga has the polarity dynamic, and is much more about learning the levels, with 6 levels, each with one boss fight. and you only have one weapon. It has alot of "Bullet Hell" sections. It has very little plot.

    Radient silvergun you have a wide range of weapons, including a sword, the game is alot longer, and has lots more bosses. Gameplay doesn't much depend on having learnt the levels. It also has dialogue at the ends/begining of levels (althought in japanese, so I don't know what ots saying)

    The only thing that ikaruga and radient silvergun have in common are developer and genre (vertical shmup) and less so, setting.

    So if this game isn't even the same developer, it will essentially just be another vertical shmup, although it may have the RS3 codename.

    Not saying it won't be good, but so far, this rumour may aswell be "G.rev shmup for Xbox 360 might come out" and the connection to Radient silvergun/ikaruga is near meaningless.
    Athenor wrote:
    ... This is a massive digression of epic proportions, but are there any shmups of quality out for the DS? It just seems naturally suited to vertical scrollers.
    I've heard great things of Nanostray, not played it myself though. Its by the iriod 3D/2 (GBA) team Shin-en. Word is a sequal is planned, and they will supposedly have more freedom from their publisher (no enforced touch screen controls)

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  • Thoughtless MuseThoughtless Muse Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    syndalis wrote:
    It's an extremely unlikely rumor, not threadworthy.

    http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2006/09/radiant-silvergun-ikaruga-sequel.html

    You sure about that?

    Old article, but I'll be damned that i didn't notice it earlier. This is legit.

    There's no point in arguing over rumors. If it happens, it happens. We have nothing substantial to go by, people are blowing this way out of proportion.

    you live in a world of hate huh? You have to be fucking 2006 Hater of the Year. You must hate to hate huh? Keep it up and 07 will be yours easily

    I think taking this as a guarentee when all we have is a release listing from one site without information and a snippet without backing from one soruce is ridiculous.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    LewieP wrote:
    but the gameplay in Radient Silvergun and Ikaruga is very dissimilar.

    Weird, I was just about to post something like that and edit some quotes around "spiritual successor". As much as I love Ikaruga, it should never have been tied to Radiant Silvergun as strongly as it was.

    Then again, it's tough for me to decide whether I want a sequel to Ikaruga or Radiant Silvergun. It seems the latter would have a bit more potential, since Ikaruga's system seems perfect as it is.

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  • RohaqRohaq UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Oh man, I forgot all about Silhouette Mirage until this thread.

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  • Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I think taking this as a guarentee when all we have is a release listing from one site without information and a snippet without backing from one soruce is ridiculous.
    No one's taking it as a guarantee. Stop shitting on this thread, I won't warn you again.

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  • zubismanzubisman Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I think everyone's forgetting about what made people associate Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga so strongly: They were both fucking beautiful and the gameplay was AMAZING. Yes, they both had very different gameplay, but, in each of their respective times, they were considered to be among the best shooters. Even now, we all remember them well. If I fire up my dreamcast and play Ikaruga, I'm STILL blown away by the quality of the graphics and the smoothness of the gameplay. If I do the hectic disk-swap on the Saturn, I can play Radiant Silvergun and almost forget my r-type-ing sidescroller roots...almost.

    As for good DS shoot-em-ups, there's a Darius game (sidescroller) called "Darius R" for the GBA. I've heard mostly good things about it.
    There was an R-Type III port (sidescroller) that was made for the GBA too, but I haven't heard anything too good about it, aside from, well, it's R-fucking-TYPE. Really, the only thing going for it is: It's R-type. If you like R-type, you'll probably like this. No promises though.
    There was a GBC R-type game called R-type DX. I recall liking it, but that's if you really want to step back in time to the 8-bit days.
    There are other GBA titles that port SNES shooters into the handheld, and a lot of them are really fun. Phalanx comes to mind. I played it on the SNES and it was a blast. Again, it's a sidescroller.
    Gradius Galaxies is really well done. It's good, clean, sidescrolling, Graius fun.
    Iridion and Iridion II are BADASS, though they're set at a 3/4 camera angle. The second one's a huge improvement, so get that one if you have the money.

    For JUST the DS, though, there's Nanostray. I know a guy who got addicted to it. Couldn't put it down. HAD to beat his last score/time/whatever. Fucking beautiful looking game, but it MIGHT take your soul...
    Cool Wi-fi multiplayer too.
    Nanostray was really critically acclaimed, if I recall correctly, and they're working on a sequel.

    Other than that...not much yet.

    Space Invaders: Revolution didn't really do it for anyone, and it wasn't a great idea anyway.
    Raid Over the River looks like it'll be good if it's ever published.
    Cerulean Dreams looks cool too, but, y'know, it needs to be PUBLISHED.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    So, wait... is that site a news site, or is it somehow afiliated with G-rev, the developers behing Border Down? I'm confused by this naming.

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Thoughtless Muse has the right idea, for once. Honestly guys, if there was any solid, substantial truth to this, you should have expected me to be the one to break it first. :P This rumor is old, and it originates with this Japanese MS press release. Treasure is listed for an unnamed project (#26) in that list.

    IGN asked them about it a long time ago:
    IGN: It's been announced that you're making Xbox 360 games, and we've heard some buzz that your first game for the platform will be 2D. Can you tell us what you can do with 2D games on a powerful system like Xbox 360?

    Maegawa: Your information is incorrect.

    Granted, he never said what information was incorrect, but that is all that I have seen said on potential 360 projects from Treasure themselves, and I follow them pretty fanatically.
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    I mean, all we really know are that the name has popped up in a couple of places. G.Rev is the most solid evidence we have yet, since they worked with Treasure on Ikaruga. But, it's still circumstantial at this point.
    No, it's not even that. That site in the OP is not G-Rev's official site (grev.co.jp). It appears to be some generic Japanese gaming website with the same name.

    Even taking all of this into account, I would not be terribly surprised if a Treasure shmup wound up on the 360 eventually. It's been a while since Iuchi and Nakagawa have released anything. Microsoft has been working pretty hard at courting smaller Japanese devs, and G-Rev (the actual game company and assistant developers for Ikaruga, not this peculiar gaming site with the same name) released Senko no Ronde as an X360 exclusive a little while back.

    That said, I don't believe that there is anything that has been shown to date that confirms that development for either RS3 or any Treasure 360 shmup is underway.

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  • crash5scrash5s Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I have RSG on saturn STV and Ikaruga on naomi, this game can't come out fast enough.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    For the record, Nanostray was received rather "meh"ly. It was a completely average shooter... I think people love it so much simply because it's on the DS.

    Not to say it's a bad game, but it's not a good game either.

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  • BigJoeMBigJoeM Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I wouldn't say it's amazing but it more than holds its own.

    Biggest criticism is the tacked on touchscreen controls without that the game would be ranked higher.

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Captain K wrote:
    I think taking this as a guarentee when all we have is a release listing from one site without information and a snippet without backing from one soruce is ridiculous.
    No one's taking it as a guarantee. Stop shitting on this thread, I won't warn you again.

    Let em keep going. He's trying to win Hater of the Year for 07. All this kid does is hate on shit. He's like the Grinch, but in nerd form.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    BigJoeM wrote:
    I wouldn't say it's amazing but it more than holds its own.

    Biggest criticism is the tacked on touchscreen controls without that the game would be ranked higher.

    The biggest criticism EGM had for it was that it was the same old game and felt like a re-hash of Darius.

    That statement alone made me go and buy it. I fucking love Darius. I wasn't disappointed.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yes, I remember hearing news about this a while back and wondering why it hadn't exploded around here -- then poked around and figured it was still in the early stages.

    Hey, while we're on the subject of potentially good 360 shmups -- did that Sylpheed sequel/reimagination/whatever from Square ever come out? How was it received?

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    GimeC wrote:
    Well, damn. Guess I'm buying a 360 now.

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  • zubismanzubisman Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    mausmalone wrote:
    BigJoeM wrote:
    I wouldn't say it's amazing but it more than holds its own.

    Biggest criticism is the tacked on touchscreen controls without that the game would be ranked higher.

    The biggest criticism EGM had for it was that it was the same old game and felt like a re-hash of Darius.

    That statement alone made me go and buy it. I fucking love Darius. I wasn't disappointed.

    Precisely! I got married to Darius once, but Darius smells like fish, so it didn't work out.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Lunker wrote:
    Hey, while we're on the subject of potentially good 360 shmups -- did that Sylpheed sequel/reimagination/whatever from Square ever come out? How was it received?

    I've been wondering the same... all I'd ever heard was that Square was emphatically refusing to release it in the states. :|

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  • JerikTelorianJerikTelorian Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I can only pray that this becomes a reality. My one friend played Ikaruga awhile back, and he nearly skipped studing for his exams for it.

    My other friend was going to bring his Dreamcast and Ikaruga up for this semester, but he couldn't manage. Suppose I'll just dish out the cash to nab it on the Cube.

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  • PentPent Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I think Microsoft should just go ahead and port all saturn games to the 360.
    [spoiler:a304f9a818]or just guardian heroes[/spoiler:a304f9a818]

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  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Pent wrote:
    I think Microsoft should just go ahead and port all saturn games to the 360.
    [spoiler:108ebbde4f]or just guardian heroes[/spoiler:108ebbde4f]

    I've always considered the Xbox line to be the spiritual successor to Sega's consoles anyways, as the Xbox philosophy seems very much in line with what Sega was trying to do with the Dreamcast. This would be a nice fit.

    Also, similarities with the controllers and the Dreamcast using Windows CE.

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