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[WoW] Rouges: OP not outdated; just lackluster. Sort of like Cat Druids

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Since my Mutilate PvE gear has fallen way behind my Combat gear, I now just have a dedicated combat PvE spec and a spec that changes depending on my whimsy

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Jutranjo wrote: »
    What about daggers vs swords?

    Daggers don't become viable for a while. Until you get mutilate, it's just a pain to level with them.

    You may want to look at the heirloom mace instead in case you ever get the desire to have a shaman alt.

    Remember Sub was changed to include an increase in Weapon Dmg for Ghostly strike and Hemo when weilding daggers so it is viable at lower levels and actually alot of fun. Imp KS and Hemo with Slice and Dice = nice dmg with daggers now.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited May 2010
    How's this for Mut/Sub PVP spec?

    edit: or this. Moved Dirty Tricks to 2/3 Setup.

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  • OatsOats Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Echo wrote: »

    Focused Attacks or Find Weakness really comes down to preference.

    But yeah, that's the bog standard Mut/Prep spec.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited May 2010
    I only steal the best cookie cutter templates.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited May 2010
    WG, as expected, was a horrible benchmark when it takes a 40-man raid to kill a healer. :P

    Went to AB and flailed about helplessly, but I think I'm getting the hang of it. Serrated Blades does wonders for low-point Envenom crits.

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  • KafkaAUKafkaAU Western AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Went to AB and flailed about helplessly, but I think I'm getting the hang of it. Serrated Blades does wonders for low-point Envenom crits.

    Explain how? That increases armor pen and rupture damage, neither of which is used by envenom.

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  • UnsaltedUnsalted Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Dear sirs,

    I am offended at your post title.

    I will have you know that my mom is a very classy lady.

    The idea that you would be teaching her anything filthy is disturbing and untruthful.

    Please consider this fact when you are choosing a more appropriate thread title(preferably one that references rogues complete dependency on cooldowns).
    :winky:

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Unsalted wrote: »
    I will have you know that my mom is a very classy lady.

    Nope.

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  • UnsaltedUnsalted Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    D:

    It was you?!

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It was a team effort, really.

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  • UnsaltedUnsalted Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Durn rogues.

    I guess this is what [Pain Suppression] is for.

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  • TheCrumblyCrackerTheCrumblyCracker Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    KafkaAU wrote: »
    Went to AB and flailed about helplessly, but I think I'm getting the hang of it. Serrated Blades does wonders for low-point Envenom crits.

    Explain how? That increases armor pen and rupture damage, neither of which is used by envenom.

    He must have meant Evis!

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited May 2010
    Don't mind me, just confused. And dazed. And stunlocked.

    Any way, unless the victim has a fuckton of resilience, I get pretty nice Envenom crits even with just 2-3 CPs.

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I rolled a troll rogue. With 2 heirlooms, and the heirloom dagger (haven't been able to find a sword trainer yet to equip my sword heirloom) I'm already killing boars in two global cooldowns. This is FUN, and I'm only level SIX.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    UC or org

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    UC or org

    You can't train swords in Orgrimmar, and I hate having to navigate Undercity without a mount, so I went to Silvermoon.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Why are you using the Sword and not the far superior Mace?

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I didn't know rogues could use maces. It's my first rogue. Be gentle.

    But the Thrash Blade really looked like the best, and I'll be PVPing it up.

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  • OatsOats Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    shryke wrote: »
    Why are you using the Sword and not the far superior Mace?

    Maces are: A) ugly.
    B) offensively ugly.
    C) so ugly it ought to be a warcrime.

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  • Grape ApeGrape Ape Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Oats wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Why are you using the Sword and not the far superior Mace?

    Maces are: A) ugly.
    B) offensively ugly.
    C) so ugly it ought to be a warcrime.

    Yeah, but then you can beat people with an ugly stick.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I bought a thrashblade too, it's only heirlooms afterall, and you have to use those stupid stonekeepers shards on something.

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  • EWomEWom Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My rogue has a sword, a mace and two daggers, also dual spec(one combat spec, one dagger spec). I wish there was an heirloom axe and fist weapon as well. Its so much better to keep weapon skills close to leveled, while leveling than to grind it all out at the end when you get a weapon upgrade.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Maces suffer from the problem that no one in Blizzard's art department has ever seen a mace or is really aware of what they are.

    Swords, at least, they are familiar with from having played the popular playstation game, Final Fantasy 7. You might have heard of it.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    jeepguy wrote: »
    I bought a thrashblade too, it's only heirlooms afterall, and you have to use those stupid stonekeepers shards on something.

    The thrashblade is fucking awesome. I can't believe how often it procs.

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  • HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    jeepguy wrote: »
    I bought a thrashblade too, it's only heirlooms afterall, and you have to use those stupid stonekeepers shards on something.

    Uhm... I thought it was a quest item.

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  • Grape ApeGrape Ape Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    jeepguy wrote: »
    I bought a thrashblade too, it's only heirlooms afterall, and you have to use those stupid stonekeepers shards on something.

    Uhm... I thought it was a quest item.

    You're right. The heirloom they speak of is based on the thrashblade from a maradon quest.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Grape Ape wrote: »
    jeepguy wrote: »
    I bought a thrashblade too, it's only heirlooms afterall, and you have to use those stupid stonekeepers shards on something.

    Uhm... I thought it was a quest item.

    You're right. The heirloom they speak of is based on the thrashblade from a maradon quest.

    Correct, the quest reward Thrashblade is really good, especially if you can get it early when the quest is still orange-red to you. It lasts a long time.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    How do the numbers on that actually add up? Especially the heirloom version?

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    jeepguy wrote: »
    I bought a thrashblade too, it's only heirlooms afterall, and you have to use those stupid stonekeepers shards on something.

    150 Shards = 10k Honor = Epic Gem. I just learned of this.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    jeepguy wrote: »
    I bought a thrashblade too, it's only heirlooms afterall, and you have to use those stupid stonekeepers shards on something.

    150 Shards = 10k Honor = Epic Gem. I just learned of this.


    If you use honor or need a routine flow of epic gems, that's a better use than heirlooms I agree. I however don't use honor really, and do not get upgrades nearly often enough to notice the cost of gems, so the heirlooms seem to give me more play.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I also just discovered this use of my shards as well, mostly because i now had 2 80s with an overflow. the rogue is gonna get the mammoth because why the hell not, but the druid needs no mounts so he sent honor tokens to my rogue to get gems for cutting and selling.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Samphis wrote: »
    UC or org

    You can't train swords in Orgrimmar, and I hate having to navigate Undercity without a mount, so I went to Silvermoon.

    Blood elf starting zone is the best place to do the early levels. Nowhere else is even close.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Samphis wrote: »
    UC or org

    You can't train swords in Orgrimmar, and I hate having to navigate Undercity without a mount, so I went to Silvermoon.

    Blood elf starting zone is the best place to do the early levels. Nowhere else is even close.

    It's a good start area, and so is the Draenei area.

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  • SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Eversong and Ghostlands <3<3<3<3<3

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I still know the forsaken starting zone by heart. Eversong is alright a time or two but after that i got kinda boring, which i might just have to blame on leveling too many alts. I've never even finished durotar. I get bored a couple quests into razor hill and take them to tirisfal or eversong every time

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  • SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Durotar is awful, yes.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Senshi wrote: »
    Durotar is awful, yes.

    I wonder what it will be like in Cataclysm

    Durotar the first time I came to it was interesting but then I was level 14 on my warrior.
    I loved Teldrassil on my night elf rogue it was fun to learn to sneak around and jsut kill one target rather than 20+ a bad habit I still use


    I really like being a combat rogue but with daggers getting moved to the assassination tree as it gets the full use of them I really don't want to play the daffy duck fight as my rogue

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  • XArchangelXXArchangelX Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Does the Hunger for Blood effect stop working when the bleed effect drops off the target? Or do you just need the bleed effect to start the HfB and then it just lasts for the 60s?

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  • MetacortexMetacortex The Prettiest Zombie Coeur d'CoeursRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Just need the bleed to start it.

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