Don't blame you if you're playing a Dwarven Noble. Too much bad blood there, which is unfortunate.
Really any person who
double crosses you during your origin is pretty much dead.
I played Human Noble and well I was already out to get Howe after he slaughtered my family, and him being a complete ass didn't help anything.
Then I also remember finding the Arl of Deneiem's son locked in a prison. I stabbed him because he was an ass, but it wasn't until the city dwarf origin that I appreciated how big of an ass he was.
City elf.
the city elf origin is awesome. It's my favorite one, although I suppose I haven't tried dwarf noble yet.
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Am I missing something or is his entire presence in the game a 2 minute dialogue before you kill him?
In the Human Noble origin,
He pretty much slaughters your entire family(your dad, your sister-in-law, your warrior princess mom, and your cute little nephew, also your servants. And when you finally confront him about it, he mocks you. So yeah, guy is a douche.
Er, whats her face goes insane and makes off with her golems if you leave the anvil and have bhelen IIRC so it's a moot point really. the act of creating the golems is so monstrous that anyone who bothered to dig up the lore background who supports their creation should think long and hard abotu who is the bigger evil here, the darkspawn of the people who support drowning people in molten ore and holding their soul forever in a construct prison
Golems
The act of creating a golem from a volunteer while not building a control rod in a world where there is a vast army of killer demons desperate to kill all the men and enslave all the women as breeding chambers is such a long way from monstrous as to be absurd. Heroic perhaps. Noble, highly desirable. To be encouraged and praised. These are all good words.
Creating them from your eneamies and enslaving them with control rods, clearly wrong, but creating an army powerful enough to stop the darkspawn is a noble and glorious endeavour.
Hell Shale is in the party. She LIKES being a golem. Being a golem is fine, and isn't a life of continuous pain. Carradin didn't seem to mind being a golem either. What on earth is monstrous about it?
Er, whats her face goes insane and makes off with her golems if you leave the anvil and have bhelen IIRC so it's a moot point really. the act of creating the golems is so monstrous that anyone who bothered to dig up the lore background who supports their creation should think long and hard abotu who is the bigger evil here, the darkspawn of the people who support drowning people in molten ore and holding their soul forever in a construct prison
Golems
The act of creating a golem from a volunteer while not building a control rod in a world where there is a vast army of killer demons desperate to kill all the men and enslave all the women as breeding chambers is such a long way from monstrous as to be absurd. Heroic perhaps. Noble, highly desirable. To be encouraged and praised. These are all good words.
Creating them from your eneamies and enslaving them with control rods, clearly wrong, but creating an army powerful enough to stop the darkspawn is a noble and glorious endeavour.
Hell Shale is in the party. She LIKES being a golem. Being a golem is fine, and isn't a life of continuous pain. Carradin didn't seem to mind being a golem either. What on earth is monstrous about it?
well, weren't the "volunteer" golems usually the poor, casteless and criminals? So at best you've got a starship troopers type of scenario going on.
Also, just because there are some golems that aren't all 'boohoo I'm a golem woe is me' doesn't mean that being made into a golem has been all sunshine and roses for them. Caradin only did it because of how ashamed over the anvil he is
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hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Er, whats her face goes insane and makes off with her golems if you leave the anvil and have bhelen IIRC so it's a moot point really. the act of creating the golems is so monstrous that anyone who bothered to dig up the lore background who supports their creation should think long and hard abotu who is the bigger evil here, the darkspawn of the people who support drowning people in molten ore and holding their soul forever in a construct prison
Golems
The act of creating a golem from a volunteer while not building a control rod in a world where there is a vast army of killer demons desperate to kill all the men and enslave all the women as breeding chambers is such a long way from monstrous as to be absurd. Heroic perhaps. Noble, highly desirable. To be encouraged and praised. These are all good words.
Creating them from your eneamies and enslaving them with control rods, clearly wrong, but creating an army powerful enough to stop the darkspawn is a noble and glorious endeavour.
Hell Shale is in the party. She LIKES being a golem. Being a golem is fine, and isn't a life of continuous pain. Carradin didn't seem to mind being a golem either. What on earth is monstrous about it?
It is an artifact designed to entrap a soul forever and enslave them if the smith so desires, via control rods. What's wrong with it is that you have to entail a boat load of ifs and qualifiers to the users ethics before it ceases to be a huge threat to everyone around it. Remember the golems can't touch the Anvil, they can never destroy it on their own or act against it. All it takes is one Master Smith doing hideous horrible things and congratulations enslaved tormented souls galore!
And as for Shale, you may recall even she tries to end her golem-hood in the end game.
Er, whats her face goes insane and makes off with her golems if you leave the anvil and have bhelen IIRC so it's a moot point really. the act of creating the golems is so monstrous that anyone who bothered to dig up the lore background who supports their creation should think long and hard abotu who is the bigger evil here, the darkspawn of the people who support drowning people in molten ore and holding their soul forever in a construct prison
Golems
The act of creating a golem from a volunteer while not building a control rod in a world where there is a vast army of killer demons desperate to kill all the men and enslave all the women as breeding chambers is such a long way from monstrous as to be absurd. Heroic perhaps. Noble, highly desirable. To be encouraged and praised. These are all good words.
Creating them from your eneamies and enslaving them with control rods, clearly wrong, but creating an army powerful enough to stop the darkspawn is a noble and glorious endeavour.
Hell Shale is in the party. She LIKES being a golem. Being a golem is fine, and isn't a life of continuous pain. Carradin didn't seem to mind being a golem either. What on earth is monstrous about it?
It is an artifact designed to entrap a soul forever and enslave them if the smith so desires, via control rods. What's wrong with it is that you have to entail a boat load of ifs and qualifiers to the users ethics before it ceases to be a huge threat to everyone around it. Remember the golems can't touch the Anvil, they can never destroy it on their own or act against it. All it takes is one Master Smith doing hideous horrible things and congratulations enslaved tormented souls galore!
And as for Shale, you may recall even she tries to end her golem-hood in the end game.
On the minus side, you have to download it through the EA store.
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RoshinMy backlog can be seen from spaceSwedenRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
About golems, then.
When I met Caradin and heard him mention dwarfs who willingly became golems, I didn't get the impression that they were exploiting the casteless. I could be totally wrong, but I don't think the dwarfs would consider giving such power to a casteless, even if said power might come with a control rod up the butt.
It did make me think about Warhammer 40K (yes, again) and their Dreadnoughts, though. Caradin totally looked the part too.
Harrowmont seems a good guy, and that's great and all, but if you read into the Codex it becomes more and more apparent that Bhelen's political ruthlessness is pretty much just how the game is played in their political world. It's ugly, but having acumen for it isn't necessarily a bad thing.
More compellingly is the issue of the Casteless. To be blunt, the dwarves are a dying race that because of traditionalism won't even let a huge portion of their population fight the enemy that's been grinding them to dust over centuries. Instead they hem and haw and occasionally fuck a Casteless chick and hope she gives them a son who can fight. Occasionally. Boy fucking howdy this sounds effective!
Bhelen supports changing things there. Harrowmont is a traditionalist. How much more traditionalism can Orzammar survive?
Well that depends on the Anvil hurr durr, but Bhelen's ending wrt the anvil
where if you don't smash it (you monster what the god damn fuck) he's pretty on the level. Harrowmont is just crazy, especially with his "I'm going to shut orzammar off from the outside world" possible ending
it actually sounds like harrowmont is just more of a pushover than bhelen is.
Sounds like?
The first thing you see when you enter Orzammar is them arguing, then Bhelen's dude kills Harrowmont's dude. Honest this gives you a better insight into both of them than talking to any npc does. What does Bhelen do when faced with an opponent? He kicks some ass. What does Harrowmont do when faced when an opponent? Runs like a god dam pussy.
Er, whats her face goes insane and makes off with her golems if you leave the anvil and have bhelen IIRC so it's a moot point really. the act of creating the golems is so monstrous that anyone who bothered to dig up the lore background who supports their creation should think long and hard abotu who is the bigger evil here, the darkspawn of the people who support drowning people in molten ore and holding their soul forever in a construct prison
Golems
The act of creating a golem from a volunteer while not building a control rod in a world where there is a vast army of killer demons desperate to kill all the men and enslave all the women as breeding chambers is such a long way from monstrous as to be absurd. Heroic perhaps. Noble, highly desirable. To be encouraged and praised. These are all good words.
Creating them from your eneamies and enslaving them with control rods, clearly wrong, but creating an army powerful enough to stop the darkspawn is a noble and glorious endeavour.
Hell Shale is in the party. She LIKES being a golem. Being a golem is fine, and isn't a life of continuous pain. Carradin didn't seem to mind being a golem either. What on earth is monstrous about it?
It is an artifact designed to entrap a soul forever and enslave them if the smith so desires, via control rods. What's wrong with it is that you have to entail a boat load of ifs and qualifiers to the users ethics before it ceases to be a huge threat to everyone around it. Remember the golems can't touch the Anvil, they can never destroy it on their own or act against it. All it takes is one Master Smith doing hideous horrible things and congratulations enslaved tormented souls galore!
And as for Shale, you may recall even she tries to end her golem-hood in the end game.
She does? When?
In epilogue she says that, if your rating is high enough. Might need to do her side quest, didn't the 1st run, and she went to the deep round to kill darkspawn. Did it the 2nd, she went with Wynne to the Tenvinter Imperium to try to become a dwarf again.
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When I met Caradin and heard him mention dwarfs who willingly became golems, I didn't get the impression that they were exploiting the casteless. I could be totally wrong, but I don't think the dwarfs would consider giving such power to a casteless, even if said power might come with a control rod up the butt.
Caradin does say he wanted to use only volunteers, but he then states that, for his king, that wasn't enough.We're venturing into atrocity territory with that. And these non-volunteer golems couldn't have done anything about it because of the control rods and inability to destroy the Anvil.
Even if you're talking about volunteers, no one told any of them what becoming a golem would entail.
Caradin just went "Surprise! I'm pouring molten lyrium on you!"
What's the deal with the Alienage? Is that part of the City Elf starting quest or does it just come later in the game?
Both.
Side note: People were declaring the game doomed when they first released the trailer for the City Elf origin because of the noble's cheesy voice-acting. Now everyone loves it because it is so satisfying getting revenge.
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AxenMy avatar is Excalibur.Yes, the sword.Registered Userregular
So, do you guys just equip loot on your four main party members and sell everything else? Or do you actually switch in every other party guy to equip them as well? It seems like a really annoying chore, especially when you know you're only going to be using yourself and the three ones in the party, so I've just been selling any loot that isn't of use. Which is kinda creepy in the party base, cause Alistair just stands around almost naked.
I went through both options and EITHER WAY you hate me.
I'm hoping there's more options that I simply didn't have the skills/relationship to get, because you're a goddamn idiot and I'm appalled I didn't get to call you out on your bullshit.
So, do you guys just equip loot on your four main party members and sell everything else? Or do you actually switch in every other party guy to equip them as well? It seems like a really annoying chore, especially when you know you're only going to be using yourself and the three ones in the party, so I've just been selling any loot that isn't of use. Which is kinda creepy in the party base, cause Alistair just stands around almost naked.
Without spoiling too much mate
You may want to keep your alts equipped even though they aren't being used. You don't need the best of the best on them, but having them naked may turn out to be a poor choice in the end. Results may vary depending on the difficulty level you're playing, ie, if you're on easy then you could probably get away with them being naked, if anything else i'd have a set of stuff on them at the very least.
So I just got this for the 360 and I'm getting. A code not valid for the downloadable content. Anyone else run into that?
Well, you don't enter in the code with the actual 360 guide button menu, like with most other games. You have to launch into the actual game and then go to the DLC menu to type in the code. It's a special EA thing, I guess.
You may want to keep your alts equipped even though they aren't being used. You don't need the best of the best on them, but having them naked may turn out to be a poor choice in the end. Results may vary depending on the difficulty level you're playing, ie, if you're on easy then you could probably get away with them being naked, if anything else i'd have a set of stuff on them at the very least.
Okay thanks. That's why I asked, cause I was afraid of something like that. I know it's good to be cautious but man... it's just annoying to switch people in and out to do that. I wish there was a way to equip em all from the inventory, but alas.
Would just like to add that I recently started an excessively anti-human city elf run and so far shit has been cash.
King Cailan: So how did you end up in the Wardens?
MC: I killed an arl's son for raping my friend.
King Cailan: o_O
Also threatening the Reverend Mother in Lothering, resulting in Morrigan clapping her hands gleefully and Allistair frantically trying to calm the old woman down. Doing Redcliffe now. Can't wait to bitchslap the Arl's wife and put a knife in her little boy.
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You may want to keep your alts equipped even though they aren't being used. You don't need the best of the best on them, but having them naked may turn out to be a poor choice in the end. Results may vary depending on the difficulty level you're playing, ie, if you're on easy then you could probably get away with them being naked, if anything else i'd have a set of stuff on them at the very least.
Okay thanks. That's why I asked, cause I was afraid of something like that. I know it's good to be cautious but man... it's just annoying to switch people in and out to do that. I wish there was a way to equip em all from the inventory, but alas.
You can do that exact thing right at camp.
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You may want to keep your alts equipped even though they aren't being used. You don't need the best of the best on them, but having them naked may turn out to be a poor choice in the end. Results may vary depending on the difficulty level you're playing, ie, if you're on easy then you could probably get away with them being naked, if anything else i'd have a set of stuff on them at the very least.
Okay thanks. That's why I asked, cause I was afraid of something like that. I know it's good to be cautious but man... it's just annoying to switch people in and out to do that. I wish there was a way to equip em all from the inventory, but alas.
You can do that exact thing right at camp.
Yeah, in the inventory just go to the persons name and click the arrows to the left and right, you should be able to flick through all the chars and eqiup them with ease I hate to think of how you were going about it lol
So I just got this for the 360 and I'm getting. A code not valid for the downloadable content. Anyone else run into that?
Well, you don't enter in the code with the actual 360 guide button menu, like with most other games. You have to launch into the actual game and then go to the DLC menu to type in the code. It's a special EA thing, I guess.
Yeah I did that I get an invalid code message. And yes I bought the game new.
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"Give a man a fire, he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire he's warm for the rest of his life."
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So I just got this for the 360 and I'm getting. A code not valid for the downloadable content. Anyone else run into that?
Well, you don't enter in the code with the actual 360 guide button menu, like with most other games. You have to launch into the actual game and then go to the DLC menu to type in the code. It's a special EA thing, I guess.
Yeah I did that I get an invalid code message. And yes I bought the game new.
Oh. Well sorry, I guess you do have an invalid code.
So I just got this for the 360 and I'm getting. A code not valid for the downloadable content. Anyone else run into that?
Well, you don't enter in the code with the actual 360 guide button menu, like with most other games. You have to launch into the actual game and then go to the DLC menu to type in the code. It's a special EA thing, I guess.
Yeah I did that I get an invalid code message. And yes I bought the game new.
So, I just finished the elf forest on my second game and
taking the wolves' side was oddly satisfying. Even when you're going to kill his whole tribe (or whatever they call it), zathrian's still determined to be an asshole. So, fuck him then. He went down like a bitch when I fought him in the camp, too, as opposed to fighting him at the ruins.
Plus, I get badass wolves!
Also, can someone clarify for me anything buggy/specific WRT romancing leliana? I remember reading a while back in this thread that it was sort of strange in how hard it was to start, but I don't remember the details, and I want to make sure I didn't miss it.
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hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Is anyone else having trouble freeing Kitty? I'm not that good at puzzles and the damn magical prison holding the desire demon seems way harder then a tower of hanoi!
Nevermind, just solved it. Still, it wasn't that easy.
Also, can someone clarify for me anything buggy/specific WRT romancing leliana? I remember reading a while back in this thread that it was sort of strange in how hard it was to start, but I don't remember the details, and I want to make sure I didn't miss it.
Basically...
she's buggy if you raise her approval too high before you go through certain dialogue options asking about her and her past.
It's really easy to get her to 25 in Lothering before you have a chance to camp if you're nice and give her the +10 gift in the chantry chest; this should be avoided.
The safest way to do it is probably:
- Pick her up in Lothering, then leave to the north and set up camp ASAP before doing anything else there
- Talk to her in camp and get through every single dialogue option until all she'll do is tell you stories
- Give her gifts and/or run around and do things she approves of until she hits 25 approval
- Immediately go back to camp and talk to her - this is where she first tried to hit on me; if she does, make sure you pick romantic replies, because if you pick the wrong thing you can get 'friend zoned' forever. After this you will be officially in romance mode ('care' or 'interested' instead of 'warm' or 'friendly' etc)
- Again ask her everything you possibly can; she will talk about Marjolaine and set up a potential side-quest, though you won't get anything in your log
- Walk somewhere on the world map with her in your party
- Win the random encounter
- Go to Denerim and confront Marjolaine
- Again go to camp and keep talking to her until she won't say anything new (dialogue choices here should determine whether she gets 'hardened')
- You should be set from here (and naturally at high approval already).
Oh, and a point of interest: if you're going for the foursome in the Pearl, there is no need to be in relationship mode with Zevran. I don't think I was even at +25 with him. Just have him and Leliana along with Leliana at +100, romanced, and hardened.
L: I can't let you do this. Not without me... uh, keeping an eye on the both of you.
--
L: L- Let us never speak of this again.
Z: I am content if we never speak of it again, so long as we can do it again.
L: That's a thought.
Also, can someone clarify for me anything buggy/specific WRT romancing leliana? I remember reading a while back in this thread that it was sort of strange in how hard it was to start, but I don't remember the details, and I want to make sure I didn't miss it.
Basically...
she's buggy if you raise her approval too high before you go through certain dialogue options asking about her and her past.
It's really easy to get her to 25 in Lothering before you have a chance to camp if you're nice and give her the +10 gift in the chantry chest; this should be avoided.
The safest way to do it is probably:
- Pick her up in Lothering, then leave to the north and set up camp ASAP before doing anything else there
- Talk to her in camp and get through every single dialogue option until all she'll do is tell you stories
- Give her gifts and/or run around and do things she approves of until she hits 25 approval
- Immediately go back to camp and talk to her - this is where she first tried to hit on me; if she does, make sure you pick romantic replies, because if you pick the wrong thing you can get 'friend zoned' forever. After this you will be officially in romance mode ('care' or 'interested' instead of 'warm' or 'friendly' etc)
- Again ask her everything you possibly can; she will talk about Marjolaine and set up a potential side-quest, though you won't get anything in your log
- Walk somewhere on the world map with her in your party
- Win the random encounter
- Go to Denerim and confront Marjolaine
- Again go to camp and keep talking to her until she won't say anything new (dialogue choices here should determine whether she gets 'hardened')
- You should be set from here (and naturally at high approval already).
Oh, and a point of interest: if you're going for the foursome in the Pearl, there is no need to be in relationship mode with Zevran. I don't think I was even at +25 with him. Just have him and Leliana along with Leliana at +100, romanced, and hardened.
L: I can't let you do this. Not without me... uh, keeping an eye on the both of you.
--
L: L- Let us never speak of this again.
Z: I am content if we never speak of it again, so long as we can do it again.
L: That's a thought.
o_O
I wonder if I whiffed on it, then. I don't recall putting too much effort into her approval rating early on, but I also don't recall all that much romance-y dialogue. I just got done with her side quest earlier this evening, so I spose I'll just harden her and wait and see how it turns out.
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hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Also, can someone clarify for me anything buggy/specific WRT romancing leliana? I remember reading a while back in this thread that it was sort of strange in how hard it was to start, but I don't remember the details, and I want to make sure I didn't miss it.
Basically...
she's buggy if you raise her approval too high before you go through certain dialogue options asking about her and her past.
It's really easy to get her to 25 in Lothering before you have a chance to camp if you're nice and give her the +10 gift in the chantry chest; this should be avoided.
The safest way to do it is probably:
- Pick her up in Lothering, then leave to the north and set up camp ASAP before doing anything else there
- Talk to her in camp and get through every single dialogue option until all she'll do is tell you stories
- Give her gifts and/or run around and do things she approves of until she hits 25 approval
- Immediately go back to camp and talk to her - this is where she first tried to hit on me; if she does, make sure you pick romantic replies, because if you pick the wrong thing you can get 'friend zoned' forever. After this you will be officially in romance mode ('care' or 'interested' instead of 'warm' or 'friendly' etc)
- Again ask her everything you possibly can; she will talk about Marjolaine and set up a potential side-quest, though you won't get anything in your log
- Walk somewhere on the world map with her in your party
- Win the random encounter
- Go to Denerim and confront Marjolaine
- Again go to camp and keep talking to her until she won't say anything new (dialogue choices here should determine whether she gets 'hardened')
- You should be set from here (and naturally at high approval already).
Oh, and a point of interest: if you're going for the foursome in the Pearl, there is no need to be in relationship mode with Zevran. I don't think I was even at +25 with him. Just have him and Leliana along with Leliana at +100, romanced, and hardened.
L: I can't let you do this. Not without me... uh, keeping an eye on the both of you.
--
L: L- Let us never speak of this again.
Z: I am content if we never speak of it again, so long as we can do it again.
L: That's a thought.
o_O
is it possible to still get it to start if you didnt realize it was bugged and wondering when the kissy kissy is suppose to start? ive done her quest and everything and her approval is at 50ish and "interested"
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Alfred J. Kwakis it because you were insultedwhen I insulted your hair?Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
Two questions - where do you find Shale, and where can I get the Ranger specialization? No spoilers please, I just want to know where to go first.
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the city elf origin is awesome. It's my favorite one, although I suppose I haven't tried dwarf noble yet.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
In the Human Noble origin,
Come to think of it, he does. The game should probably have indicated that was him. I just assumed it was some guy.
Golems
Creating them from your eneamies and enslaving them with control rods, clearly wrong, but creating an army powerful enough to stop the darkspawn is a noble and glorious endeavour.
Hell Shale is in the party. She LIKES being a golem. Being a golem is fine, and isn't a life of continuous pain. Carradin didn't seem to mind being a golem either. What on earth is monstrous about it?
Also, just because there are some golems that aren't all 'boohoo I'm a golem woe is me' doesn't mean that being made into a golem has been all sunshine and roses for them. Caradin only did it because of how ashamed over the anvil he is
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
And as for Shale, you may recall even she tries to end her golem-hood in the end game.
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On the plus side, it's only 40 bucks.
On the minus side, you have to download it through the EA store.
It did make me think about Warhammer 40K (yes, again) and their Dreadnoughts, though. Caradin totally looked the part too.
That's like 20 minuses and a control rod in the butt right there.
Yeah, sorry.
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Just started a Dwarf Noble campaign, and there is NO WAY I'm siding with him this time around.
Even if you're talking about volunteers, no one told any of them what becoming a golem would entail.
Caradin just went "Surprise! I'm pouring molten lyrium on you!"
Did nothing but extort money and refuse to talk directly to people (except to set up a threesome)
Cool guy, but he had no business being king :P
Both.
Side note: People were declaring the game doomed when they first released the trailer for the City Elf origin because of the noble's cheesy voice-acting. Now everyone loves it because it is so satisfying getting revenge.
I don't know, that sounds like pretty much any other Dwarf Noble to me.
You are moronic beyond words.
I went through both options and EITHER WAY you hate me.
I'm hoping there's more options that I simply didn't have the skills/relationship to get, because you're a goddamn idiot and I'm appalled I didn't get to call you out on your bullshit.
It's 40 at amazon too (PC). Or if you want to wait till friday, BB will have the contard versions for 35.
-Terry Pratchett
Without spoiling too much mate
Well, you don't enter in the code with the actual 360 guide button menu, like with most other games. You have to launch into the actual game and then go to the DLC menu to type in the code. It's a special EA thing, I guess.
MC: I killed an arl's son for raping my friend.
King Cailan: o_O
Also threatening the Reverend Mother in Lothering, resulting in Morrigan clapping her hands gleefully and Allistair frantically trying to calm the old woman down. Doing Redcliffe now. Can't wait to bitchslap the Arl's wife and put a knife in her little boy.
You can do that exact thing right at camp.
Yeah, in the inventory just go to the persons name and click the arrows to the left and right, you should be able to flick through all the chars and eqiup them with ease
I'm hoping for the exact same thing to happen with Lelianna when I play a dwarf :winky:
Yeah I did that I get an invalid code message. And yes I bought the game new.
-Terry Pratchett
Oh. Well sorry, I guess you do have an invalid code.
Try registering it on the social site:
http://social.bioware.com/redeem_code.php
Plus, I get badass wolves!
Also, can someone clarify for me anything buggy/specific WRT romancing leliana? I remember reading a while back in this thread that it was sort of strange in how hard it was to start, but I don't remember the details, and I want to make sure I didn't miss it.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Nevermind, just solved it. Still, it wasn't that easy.
Basically...
It's really easy to get her to 25 in Lothering before you have a chance to camp if you're nice and give her the +10 gift in the chantry chest; this should be avoided.
The safest way to do it is probably:
- Pick her up in Lothering, then leave to the north and set up camp ASAP before doing anything else there
- Talk to her in camp and get through every single dialogue option until all she'll do is tell you stories
- Give her gifts and/or run around and do things she approves of until she hits 25 approval
- Immediately go back to camp and talk to her - this is where she first tried to hit on me; if she does, make sure you pick romantic replies, because if you pick the wrong thing you can get 'friend zoned' forever. After this you will be officially in romance mode ('care' or 'interested' instead of 'warm' or 'friendly' etc)
- Again ask her everything you possibly can; she will talk about Marjolaine and set up a potential side-quest, though you won't get anything in your log
- Walk somewhere on the world map with her in your party
- Win the random encounter
- Go to Denerim and confront Marjolaine
- Again go to camp and keep talking to her until she won't say anything new (dialogue choices here should determine whether she gets 'hardened')
- You should be set from here (and naturally at high approval already).
Oh, and a point of interest: if you're going for the foursome in the Pearl, there is no need to be in relationship mode with Zevran. I don't think I was even at +25 with him. Just have him and Leliana along with Leliana at +100, romanced, and hardened.
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L: L- Let us never speak of this again.
Z: I am content if we never speak of it again, so long as we can do it again.
L: That's a thought.
o_O
I wonder if I whiffed on it, then. I don't recall putting too much effort into her approval rating early on, but I also don't recall all that much romance-y dialogue. I just got done with her side quest earlier this evening, so I spose I'll just harden her and wait and see how it turns out.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
is it possible to still get it to start if you didnt realize it was bugged and wondering when the kissy kissy is suppose to start? ive done her quest and everything and her approval is at 50ish and "interested"